My Wife saw this this morning. The main point was the Cache. If I can remember I'll post the link later (maybe there's someone around who'd enjoy translating the whole thing and typing it up).
The example I was given by a former marine was the 50 cal Machine Guns were illegal to use against personel, so they supposedly are only to be used against enemy material and equipment, such as uniforms and the like.
ahh, but according to what they've said before the whole thing they are scared of is backdoors that the US can get into.
This is just old news. They started all this stuff YEARs ago back when Clipper was being talked about and they got freaked out that it meant ALL US computers were going to have spying bugs in them for the NSA. They are SUPER paranoid about that.
I doubt the http://www.taipeitimes.com/news goes back that far, and chinatimes never had a website, but you can still try to find it. If you have Lexus/Nexus you might be able to find those old articles.
I got back from Taiwan more than two years ago and can recall reading in the English paper there (which always reports things later than the Chinese papers) that the communist gov't wanted Linux to the OS for Chinese gov't use because they wouldn't be beholden to foreign software companies. And that was at least a year before I came back (total of at least 3 years ago, probably 4).
I haven't looked at the Chinese character handling in Linux for a while, but at the time it was atrocious. (of course Windows wasn't a whole lot better until Windows 2000 came out)
I guess the communists don't have too much problem with foreign alphabets (the config files and the Command line is probably going to have to stay in western character set I would guess)
What you say is very true- In the WEST , But I lived in Taiwan for 5 years and can tell you that a huge amount of the software there is pirated.
Just go down to Ba-Deh-Lu (8 Virtues Street) any Saturday or Sunday morning and you'll find a bunch of 16-25 year guys standing around on street corners with makeshift tables set up covered in printouts of various software and the price they are charging- typically 30 bucks or so. I knew one woman who's husband went down and bought Windows 97 (yes 97!, and yes he screwed up his computer big time- lost all his data).
Going down to BaDeLu was sometimes like going to a bad part of town. One time I went down to get some RAM (this street is where all the best legal vendors are concentrated too) and being accosted by numerous kids dressed in 100% black. They kept trying to get me to buy some pirated software or other. (I never did find out why they were all in black for a few months, the rumor was that some guy had consolidated all the little independent kids into a larger group and was getting them to sell his factory pirated software(there were several pirate factories closed down over the years I was there in central Taiwan))
So yes, a lot of Pirated software in the States is miscounted (probably intentially with the idea of inflating the numbers) here in the West. But Piracy is big business in Asia.
I think the solution for large customers is to buy clean machines and install Win2k on them. Just retain the licenses from retired machines, and have enough for forseeable expansion.
This doesn't work too well for small companies, but shouldn't be such a big deal with larger companies that are used to doing Remote Installs. Just keep your images up to date with all the patches you require (and keep all the patches safe so when MS pulls them from their site you still have them).
I have XP installed at home only because I have small clients that end up buying new machines with XP without thinking and I have to be able to deal with it. But larger companies are a bit more stable and think these things through a little more clearly. My bet is that they will do as I layed out above and stick with 2000. Too many MS admins I know are disgusted with XP, and none of them would even consider XP except for the fact that it shows up by accident in some places (Thus, we all have it installed on a computer at home, and we all complain about how awful it is everytime the subject comes up)
Oh, now I see. We're confusing results with philosophy here. Philosophy doesn't mean much in Modernity any more- only results. I've just spent too much time reading it when I was younger to remember that when posting to a Forum.
But I do think you are missing the fact that it doesn't take Religious zealots to create oceans of blood.
No, most Chinese don't care about Fulon Gong. Why should they? The vast majority of Chinese are destitute poor and are far more worried about getting food than free expression. But there are large numbers of Chinese out of work, and mostly due to bad management and corruption in the Communist gov't. It is in these areas the Fulon Gong are concentrating their campaign.
As for the burning incident, there is quite a bit of debate over this. But assuming these people were Fulon Gong believers, does it mean the whole group is evil? Saying so is like saying just because there is one evil person in a group that ALL the people in the group and the group itself is evil. Any number of examples can be shown that disprove this utterly. Like any kid wearing a black trench coat and playing DnD must be planning to shoot all his classmates and teachers and making sacrifices to Satan. Out of maybe a million members (Fulon Gong I think claims more like 10 million) the Communists have come up with a handful of dubious examples. Compare that to the repeated examples of corruption that have been reported despite the Communists attempt to repress that information.
As for the Communists being such a good influence on China I would seriously take to task if I had the time. China is much more backward than it could have been had it had competent leadership. Ask any person that lived through some of Mao's attempts at modernization, The Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution. I have many mainland Chinese friends here in the States. None of them "dissidents," but not one excited about the idea of ever going back to China to live. And the reason is they lived through some pretty hard times caused by incompetent Communist rule. Some of the coastal cities are experiencing growth, but certainly not the kind of growth seen in the Asian tigers. Gosh, the anecdotal stories I could tell! Suffice it to say that Communism has killed much of the entrepreneurial spirit found in Chinese everywhere but under communist rule.
I really think you are misinformed if you think Communism has been good for China. Sort of like the myth that Chinese never eat greasy food (It doesn't take long after getting off the plane to have that myth dispelled!)
It gives the Communist about as much right to repress them as the British had to repress the Americans in the late 1700s or the Hindus in the mid 1900s
The Communist gov't has broken its contract with the people to protect them and provide for the common good- State of Nature and all that (Hobbes and Locke provide those arguments, go check it out, makes for fun reading) thereby giving the oppressed people the right (and by some interpretations) the DUTY to rebel and attempt regime change.
Tell me, what was the alternitive? Just disapear and be forgotten, never to be allowed to express themselves at all ever while the Chinese Communists rounded them up, beat them up and made them disapear into their prison system?
Fulan Gong's only path for survival is for regime change. However pathetic and weak these attempts are at acheiving that, they are attempts in line with Chinese History of religous nut case groups appearing and denoucning gov't corruption just before a regime change takes place.
They are trying to follow that pattern. They are commiting civil disobedience and most of all trying to survive. The Chinese Gov't sees the pattern and is freaking out. Most Chinese probably know enough Chinese history to see it to.
Although I don't know if any of them see this more of a sympton than a cause of regime change...
Darn it! What was that black lady's name who refused to stand up for a white man on a bus? Her refusal was AGAINST THE LAW, and by your definition indefensible.
Civil disobedience is an American tradition, and people who don't think so are gravely mistaken.
But I could go through countless acts of Civil disobedience that are celebrated in America, from Susan B. Anthony (she even has a coin with her likeness on it) to Martin Luther King (who has a NATIONAL holiday attached to his name). You are seriously mistaken legally and philosophically.
If you convince the soldiers they are fighting against justice and their only cause is wrong, they'll switch sides.
Or at least you can confuse them enough not to fight. That is the point of these hackings.
The thing left out of the article is that the Fulan Gong has been doing this since January. There have been at least 6 incidents. One of which ran for over 30 minutes.
They are not just hacking satalites, but cable as well. All in the NE of China where Unemployment is extremely high and several Anti-gov't demonstrations have taken place.
One of the hacking attempts was caught, and the team doing it disapeared. That was back 5 months ago. But they keep happening!
Stratfor.com had a good analysis on this, too bad its a pay site now.
You need to read Stratfor, and maybe some Foreign Affairs magazine.
Fulan Gong originally had no political aspirations at all. Mostly just a self help group drawing on an odd collection of Chinese cultural traditions.
But then the communist gov't decided there were too many of them (and a huge number of them were party officials themselves) and decided to repress them.
All attempts to change the opinion of the Chinese gov't have failed, leaving the multitudes of followers with a choice:
1. Disappear 2. Foster regime change
Since most members were part of the emerging middle class it is not surprising to see the kind of sophisticated hacking taking place. At least one hacking team has been caught and disappeared into the Chinese prison system. Which just shows that this group is far more sophisticated and robust than any had thought. They must have several teams out there. They are not just hacking satellites either- but also hijacking cables.
Most of the attacks have taken place in North Eastern China- The Rust Belt of China. This area has the highest unemployment of the Nation, and has seen many demonstrations against the Gov't in the past several years. Again, this shows the sophistication of the group's planners and reveals their goal: change the gov't to one that will allow for freedom of expression and religion.
As for comments by people calling them zealots and criminals, I'd take this lot over the lot of Zealots and criminals that has been running China for the past 50+ years any day!
China is a great place (lived in Taiwan and Asia for 5 years), but the communists have done tremendous damage to Chinese culture (most notably during the Cultural Revolution)
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My Wife saw this this morning. The main point was the Cache. If I can remember I'll post the link later (maybe there's someone around who'd enjoy translating the whole thing and typing it up).
The example I was given by a former marine was the 50 cal Machine Guns were illegal to use against personel, so they supposedly are only to be used against enemy material and equipment, such as uniforms and the like.
ahh, but according to what they've said before the whole thing they are scared of is backdoors that the US can get into.
This is just old news. They started all this stuff YEARs ago back when Clipper was being talked about and they got freaked out that it meant ALL US computers were going to have spying bugs in them for the NSA. They are SUPER paranoid about that.
I doubt the http://www.taipeitimes.com/news goes back that far, and chinatimes never had a website, but you can still try to find it. If you have Lexus/Nexus you might be able to find those old articles.
I got back from Taiwan more than two years ago and can recall reading in the English paper there (which always reports things later than the Chinese papers) that the communist gov't wanted Linux to the OS for Chinese gov't use because they wouldn't be beholden to foreign software companies. And that was at least a year before I came back (total of at least 3 years ago, probably 4).
I haven't looked at the Chinese character handling in Linux for a while, but at the time it was atrocious. (of course Windows wasn't a whole lot better until Windows 2000 came out)
I guess the communists don't have too much problem with foreign alphabets (the config files and the Command line is probably going to have to stay in western character set I would guess)
What you say is very true- In the WEST , But I lived in Taiwan for 5 years and can tell you that a huge amount of the software there is pirated.
Just go down to Ba-Deh-Lu (8 Virtues Street) any Saturday or Sunday morning and you'll find a bunch of 16-25 year guys standing around on street corners with makeshift tables set up covered in printouts of various software and the price they are charging- typically 30 bucks or so. I knew one woman who's husband went down and bought Windows 97 (yes 97!, and yes he screwed up his computer big time- lost all his data).
Going down to BaDeLu was sometimes like going to a bad part of town. One time I went down to get some RAM (this street is where all the best legal vendors are concentrated too) and being accosted by numerous kids dressed in 100% black. They kept trying to get me to buy some pirated software or other. (I never did find out why they were all in black for a few months, the rumor was that some guy had consolidated all the little independent kids into a larger group and was getting them to sell his factory pirated software(there were several pirate factories closed down over the years I was there in central Taiwan)) So yes, a lot of Pirated software in the States is miscounted (probably intentially with the idea of inflating the numbers) here in the West. But Piracy is big business in Asia.
I think the solution for large customers is to buy clean machines and install Win2k on them. Just retain the licenses from retired machines, and have enough for forseeable expansion.
This doesn't work too well for small companies, but shouldn't be such a big deal with larger companies that are used to doing Remote Installs. Just keep your images up to date with all the patches you require (and keep all the patches safe so when MS pulls them from their site you still have them).
I have XP installed at home only because I have small clients that end up buying new machines with XP without thinking and I have to be able to deal with it. But larger companies are a bit more stable and think these things through a little more clearly. My bet is that they will do as I layed out above and stick with 2000. Too many MS admins I know are disgusted with XP, and none of them would even consider XP except for the fact that it shows up by accident in some places (Thus, we all have it installed on a computer at home, and we all complain about how awful it is everytime the subject comes up)
Oh, now I see. We're confusing results with philosophy here. Philosophy doesn't mean much in Modernity any more- only results. I've just spent too much time reading it when I was younger to remember that when posting to a Forum.
But I do think you are missing the fact that it doesn't take Religious zealots to create oceans of blood.
No, most Chinese don't care about Fulon Gong. Why should they? The vast majority of Chinese are destitute poor and are far more worried about getting food than free expression. But there are large numbers of Chinese out of work, and mostly due to bad management and corruption in the Communist gov't. It is in these areas the Fulon Gong are concentrating their campaign.
As for the burning incident, there is quite a bit of debate over this. But assuming these people were Fulon Gong believers, does it mean the whole group is evil? Saying so is like saying just because there is one evil person in a group that ALL the people in the group and the group itself is evil. Any number of examples can be shown that disprove this utterly. Like any kid wearing a black trench coat and playing DnD must be planning to shoot all his classmates and teachers and making sacrifices to Satan. Out of maybe a million members (Fulon Gong I think claims more like 10 million) the Communists have come up with a handful of dubious examples. Compare that to the repeated examples of corruption that have been reported despite the Communists attempt to repress that information.
As for the Communists being such a good influence on China I would seriously take to task if I had the time. China is much more backward than it could have been had it had competent leadership. Ask any person that lived through some of Mao's attempts at modernization, The Great Leap Forward or the Cultural Revolution. I have many mainland Chinese friends here in the States. None of them "dissidents," but not one excited about the idea of ever going back to China to live. And the reason is they lived through some pretty hard times caused by incompetent Communist rule. Some of the coastal cities are experiencing growth, but certainly not the kind of growth seen in the Asian tigers. Gosh, the anecdotal stories I could tell! Suffice it to say that Communism has killed much of the entrepreneurial spirit found in Chinese everywhere but under communist rule.
I really think you are misinformed if you think Communism has been good for China. Sort of like the myth that Chinese never eat greasy food (It doesn't take long after getting off the plane to have that myth dispelled!)
It gives the Communist about as much right to repress them as the British had to repress the Americans in the late 1700s or the Hindus in the mid 1900s
The Communist gov't has broken its contract with the people to protect them and provide for the common good- State of Nature and all that (Hobbes and Locke provide those arguments, go check it out, makes for fun reading) thereby giving the oppressed people the right (and by some interpretations) the DUTY to rebel and attempt regime change.
Huh? What?
Tell me, what was the alternitive? Just disapear and be forgotten, never to be allowed to express themselves at all ever while the Chinese Communists rounded them up, beat them up and made them disapear into their prison system?
Fulan Gong's only path for survival is for regime change. However pathetic and weak these attempts are at acheiving that, they are attempts in line with Chinese History of religous nut case groups appearing and denoucning gov't corruption just before a regime change takes place.
They are trying to follow that pattern. They are commiting civil disobedience and most of all trying to survive. The Chinese Gov't sees the pattern and is freaking out. Most Chinese probably know enough Chinese history to see it to.
Although I don't know if any of them see this more of a sympton than a cause of regime change...
Darn it! What was that black lady's name who refused to stand up for a white man on a bus? Her refusal was AGAINST THE LAW, and by your definition indefensible.
Civil disobedience is an American tradition, and people who don't think so are gravely mistaken.
But I could go through countless acts of Civil disobedience that are celebrated in America, from Susan B. Anthony (she even has a coin with her likeness on it) to Martin Luther King (who has a NATIONAL holiday attached to his name). You are seriously mistaken legally and philosophically.
If you convince the soldiers they are fighting against justice and their only cause is wrong, they'll switch sides.
Or at least you can confuse them enough not to fight. That is the point of these hackings.
The thing left out of the article is that the Fulan Gong has been doing this since January. There have been at least 6 incidents. One of which ran for over 30 minutes.
They are not just hacking satalites, but cable as well. All in the NE of China where Unemployment is extremely high and several Anti-gov't demonstrations have taken place.
One of the hacking attempts was caught, and the team doing it disapeared. That was back 5 months ago. But they keep happening!
Stratfor.com had a good analysis on this, too bad its a pay site now.
You need to read Stratfor, and maybe some Foreign Affairs magazine.
Fulan Gong originally had no political aspirations at all. Mostly just a self help group drawing on an odd collection of Chinese cultural traditions.
But then the communist gov't decided there were too many of them (and a huge number of them were party officials themselves) and decided to repress them.
All attempts to change the opinion of the Chinese gov't have failed, leaving the multitudes of followers with a choice:
1. Disappear
2. Foster regime change
Since most members were part of the emerging middle class it is not surprising to see the kind of sophisticated hacking taking place. At least one hacking team has been caught and disappeared into the Chinese prison system. Which just shows that this group is far more sophisticated and robust than any had thought. They must have several teams out there. They are not just hacking satellites either- but also hijacking cables.
Most of the attacks have taken place in North Eastern China- The Rust Belt of China. This area has the highest unemployment of the Nation, and has seen many demonstrations against the Gov't in the past several years. Again, this shows the sophistication of the group's planners and reveals their goal: change the gov't to one that will allow for freedom of expression and religion.
As for comments by people calling them zealots and criminals, I'd take this lot over the lot of Zealots and criminals that has been running China for the past 50+ years any day!
China is a great place (lived in Taiwan and Asia for 5 years), but the communists have done tremendous damage to Chinese culture (most notably during the Cultural Revolution)
Does that help you understand?