On behalf of the slashdot team, I want to apologize for them for breaking your arm and forcing you to not only read this cyberpatrol story, but also for contributing a comment. Those heinous folks at the compound must be stopped at all costs.
no, it's not bad at all. I'm upset with AOL using filtering software that has a political slant. I am the only person who should be slanting my children's thoughts...and even I wouldn't be so abusive as to do that to my children. I want my children to be free of manipulation.
We have a regular process of reviewing sites that are submitted, and if they meet our criteria they are added," she said.
They think gun sites are appropiate for kids? I swear on my children's lives to never use a product endorsed, sold or advocated by AOL or any of its subsidiaries.
We have a regular process of reviewing sites that are submitted, and if they meet our criteria they are added," she said.
They think gun sites are appropiate for kids? I swear on my children's lives to never use a product endorsed, sold or advocated by AOL or any of its subsidiaries.
The review doesn't say that Gilliam set out to make a movie about hackers
Oh, really ?
Brazil is a beautiful picture about the hacker ethic.
The review didn't see hacking as a subplot, they view it as the central theme of the movie. Speaking of things that are obvious, it is obvious that their perspective is flawed. That you consider it interesting is not surprising considering the forum.
I am not totally dismissive of the review. I think it is interesting not for what it says but how it contrives to force the hacker theme. I think it has been said that more interesting than the actual works of arts are the people behind the works or the people who interpret the works. This review supports that belief.
Re:Are They Tallking About The Same Movie I Saw ?
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Terry Gilliam's Brazil
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· Score: 3
It's refreshing to see people bring their "ethos" to bear on the media of the day.
I think it's repugnant. It's intellectually dishonest when you try to force a pre-conceived notion on "objective analysis". Granted, interpretations of art are very subjective and I normally wouldn't begrudge someone the opportunity to present their viewpoint. However, what I see here at Slashdot often, usually displayed by Katz or Roblimo, is an appalling tendency to force the square hacker peg into the round hole we call reality. I understand that they are marketing to the very segment that they patronize, but I think they would garner much appreciation if they were honest in their approach.
Now as regards my perspective, as I've mentioned, I believe that Brazil was about the man's fears about losing control to amorphous entities that purport to be our benefactors, making all our decisions for us, telling us what products to use, controlling our thoughts. It's also speaks to man's unflinching fight against such onerous control. Brazil is very Orwelian in form and shares some similarities to Kafka's The Trial. I think Brazil has more symmetry with those works of arts than Steve Jobs and Randal Schwartz. I think most people who have broadened their horizons would share this assessment.
Brazil is a beautiful picture about the hacker ethic.
It is? Hmmm. I thought it was a movie about the ineptness of senseless bureacuracy. Ok, ok...I guess you could kind of take the bug dropping into the typewriter as a symobolic computer bug thingy, but please, let's stop trying to reinvent the world based on some perverted hacker ethos. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing everything viewed through this same, tired prism. It doesn't always have to be about hacking to be good. Brazil is a prime example.
I'm not trying to be funny, and I realize I will be moderated down for saying this, but some of you people, particularly who wrote this "review, need to get out more and broaden your horizons.
N64, by the nature of its old technology, you would think would have inferior games to Dreamcast. There are some N64 games, however, that just rock! The console itself isn't always the determining factor. While they may give you more things to exploit, only the best developers ever actually exploit them. Do you notice that certain game companies consistently put out great games?
Dreamcast has some great games. The developers have done well with the platform. Developers actually love the platform because it is easier, in their estimation, than the upcoming PS2. So yes, from a technology standpoint, the developers are looking forward to the PS2 release, but don't assume all PS2 games will rock.
I see what you're saying. I wonder if this is actually Sony's plan because I haven't seen any specifics on the modem. I think the majority of interneters do use dial-up service, however, so it may not make much sense to include ethernet. I personally think they should leave that decision up to the consumer. Let them make the choice that works for them. This will keep the price of the console down as well.
Don't you get it? The PS2, in Sony's mind, will not just be a gaming console. It will be THE console for the house. Want some new mp3's? Just get on the PS2 and download from internet to harddrive. Does the missus want new recipes? Download 'em. Want to snap some screens from games and transfer 'em to pc? download 'em to hardrive and transfer 'em over firewire.
Stop thinking in terms of gaming. Sony has their eyes on the prize....the big prize.
I know everyone is just looking for an excuse to rip into John, but give the man credit. He is actually doing something about the causes that you people claim to believe in. Take a cue from John. This is how you engage your so-called enemies. Yelling, screaming, cursing, etc. won't get the job done. John employed some sound techniques in getting his point across:
1) He LISTENED 2) He came with facts, not just hyperbole and urban legends 3) He didn't denigrate the opposite side
Regardless of whether we believe Pinkerton, or anyone else we disagree wtih, is wrong, they are people and they have an equal right to have differing opinions. Reasonable people can get together and discuss things. This is what separates us from animals. Let's remember that.
Why another pandering article about censorship? Why do you appeal to the worst in us? Why must you dogmatically posit specious arguments for the hell of it?
I've noticed a continued deterioration of slashdot over the past year. I think it started with Rob Malda's failed attempt to muzzle the trollers. Imagine that. Slashdot, the vanguard of society, protecting us from those who would censor us, yet they force you to take a 70 second break between posts and don't archive posts -1 posts, as though they never existed.
Slashdot is a fraud and I'm tired of the hypocrisy.
In the Immortal Words of Don Corleone
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Microsoft Loses
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If Judge Jackson should meet with any unfortunate accidents, if a police officer should accidently shoot his head off, if he should fall off a building...then I will not be so forgiving.
DON'T LET THEM KILL JUDGE JACKSON !!!
I'm not kiddding. Microsoft has shown that they will do anything to win. I would not put them beyond murdering Judge Jackson. If he is killed, the whole process has been for naught. Please be on the lookout for beefy nerds drinking starbucks with bulges under their jackets. For the love of God, protect Judge Jackson !
Actuallly, I live in Northern New Jersey. I've been using their DSL for 8 months now. They are the most incompetent boobs I've ever run into. I can't wait until Cable rolls out internet service in the next couple of months.
is that how Bell Atlantic allocates dynamic IP's? I have a static IP from Bell Atlantic. Perhaps that's because I got it before they changed over to dynamic ip allocation.
they have race conditions in a lot of their code. that's why you invariably see someone with a +6 or -2 comment. I guess Hope college's CS department sucks or Rob was one of those guys who thought he knew more than the profs because he used to copy Apple II games from magazines when he was younger.
I think what Signal 11 as talking about was the look and feel, the aethstetics of the visual components. You know, the nice anti-aliased stuff with crisp fonts. I don't think he was talking about the design and ease of use associated with the good looking components. Clearly in this aspect Microsoft has failed miserably.
Microsoft is like a hooker. It looks good from a distance but if you fuck with it you can get burned
is there a law that says original games can't be developed for Linux ? Descent may or may not be a great game (never played it) but I'm getting sick and tired of feeling like I haveto jump up and down because Linux users will have the pleasure of playing years old games. What is going on in the industry in terms of putting out original games on Linux? Does anyone know?
I just came back from CompUSA and I wandered in the section where they have magazines and books. What did I see there -- A Prima book giving hints and tips on Daikatana. The first thing that popped in my head was I wasn't even aware that it had been released. I guess it still hasn't. I flipped through the book to get a glimpse of the graphics and it wasn't very impressive. It sort of looked like a mutant Unreal.
The bad news, from my perspective, is that now our CRTC (controlling agency) has allowed "free market competition", we've lost control. What used to be a tightly regulated, tamed monopoly is now cut free. Can't tell 'em what to do any more... which, in the end, is a bad thing: we seem to be paying the same as always, but without the guarantee of consumer-benefits-oriented control. Bummer.
You almost had me thinking that you were a rational human until that paragraph. A more frightening series of thoughts I've never heard expressed before. I think your sentiments are the exact reason Canada and all other socialist welfare states are destined to lag behind the US. You actually believe the suckling on the gov't nipple is the way to go. You actually think a bunch of know-nothing bureacrats know what's best for you. All i can say is you deserve what you get.
Slashdot Mirror
On behalf of the slashdot team, I want to apologize for them for breaking your arm and forcing you to not only read this cyberpatrol story, but also for contributing a comment. Those heinous folks at the compound must be stopped at all costs.
no, it's not bad at all. I'm upset with AOL using filtering software that has a political slant. I am the only person who should be slanting my children's thoughts...and even I wouldn't be so abusive as to do that to my children. I want my children to be free of manipulation.
We have a regular process of reviewing sites that are submitted, and if they meet our criteria they are added," she said.
They think gun sites are appropiate for kids? I swear on my children's lives to never use a product endorsed, sold or advocated by AOL or any of its subsidiaries.
Sorry about the previous post.
We have a regular process of reviewing sites that are submitted, and if they meet our criteria they are added," she said.
They think gun sites are appropiate for kids? I swear on my children's lives to never use a product endorsed, sold or advocated by AOL or any of its subsidiaries.
The review doesn't say that Gilliam set out to make a movie about hackers
Oh, really ?
Brazil is a beautiful picture about the hacker ethic.
The review didn't see hacking as a subplot, they view it as the central theme of the movie. Speaking of things that are obvious, it is obvious that their perspective is flawed. That you consider it interesting is not surprising considering the forum.
I am not totally dismissive of the review. I think it is interesting not for what it says but how it contrives to force the hacker theme. I think it has been said that more interesting than the actual works of arts are the people behind the works or the people who interpret the works. This review supports that belief.
It's refreshing to see people bring their "ethos" to bear on the media of the day.
I think it's repugnant. It's intellectually dishonest when you try to force a pre-conceived notion on "objective analysis". Granted, interpretations of art are very subjective and I normally wouldn't begrudge someone the opportunity to present their viewpoint. However, what I see here at Slashdot often, usually displayed by Katz or Roblimo, is an appalling tendency to force the square hacker peg into the round hole we call reality. I understand that they are marketing to the very segment that they patronize, but I think they would garner much appreciation if they were honest in their approach.
Now as regards my perspective, as I've mentioned, I believe that Brazil was about the man's fears about losing control to amorphous entities that purport to be our benefactors, making all our decisions for us, telling us what products to use, controlling our thoughts. It's also speaks to man's unflinching fight against such onerous control. Brazil is very Orwelian in form and shares some similarities to Kafka's The Trial. I think Brazil has more symmetry with those works of arts than Steve Jobs and Randal Schwartz. I think most people who have broadened their horizons would share this assessment.
Brazil is a beautiful picture about the hacker ethic.
It is? Hmmm. I thought it was a movie about the ineptness of senseless bureacuracy. Ok, ok...I guess you could kind of take the bug dropping into the typewriter as a symobolic computer bug thingy, but please, let's stop trying to reinvent the world based on some perverted hacker ethos.
Frankly, I'm tired of seeing everything viewed through this same, tired prism. It doesn't always have to be about hacking to be good. Brazil is a prime example.
I'm not trying to be funny, and I realize I will be moderated down for saying this, but some of you people, particularly who wrote this "review, need to get out more and broaden your horizons.
Now we don't have to hear CmdrTaco whining anymore...well, at least not about this issue.
N64, by the nature of its old technology, you would think would have inferior games to Dreamcast. There are some N64 games, however, that just rock! The console itself isn't always the determining factor. While they may give you more things to exploit, only the best developers ever actually exploit them. Do you notice that certain game companies consistently put out great games?
Dreamcast has some great games. The developers have done well with the platform. Developers actually love the platform because it is easier, in their estimation, than the upcoming PS2. So yes, from a technology standpoint, the developers are looking forward to the PS2 release, but don't assume all PS2 games will rock.
I see what you're saying. I wonder if this is actually Sony's plan because I haven't seen any specifics on the modem. I think the majority of interneters do use dial-up service, however, so it may not make much sense to include ethernet. I personally think they should leave that decision up to the consumer. Let them make the choice that works for them. This will keep the price of the console down as well.
Don't you get it? The PS2, in Sony's mind, will not just be a gaming console. It will be THE console for the house. Want some new mp3's? Just get on the PS2 and download from internet to harddrive. Does the missus want new recipes? Download 'em. Want to snap some screens from games and transfer 'em to pc? download 'em to hardrive and transfer 'em over firewire.
Stop thinking in terms of gaming. Sony has their eyes on the prize....the big prize.
I know everyone is just looking for an excuse to rip into John, but give the man credit. He is actually doing something about the causes that you people claim to believe in. Take a cue from John. This is how you engage your so-called enemies. Yelling, screaming, cursing, etc. won't get the job done. John employed some sound techniques in getting his point across:
1) He LISTENED
2) He came with facts, not just hyperbole and urban legends
3) He didn't denigrate the opposite side
Regardless of whether we believe Pinkerton, or anyone else we disagree wtih, is wrong, they are people and they have an equal right to have differing opinions. Reasonable people can get together and discuss things. This is what separates us from animals. Let's remember that.
Why another pandering article about censorship? Why do you appeal to the worst in us? Why must you dogmatically posit specious arguments for the hell of it?
I've noticed a continued deterioration of slashdot over the past year. I think it started with Rob Malda's failed attempt to muzzle the trollers. Imagine that. Slashdot, the vanguard of society, protecting us from those who would censor us, yet they force you to take a 70 second break between posts and don't archive posts -1 posts, as though they never existed.
Slashdot is a fraud and I'm tired of the hypocrisy.
What's it about?
If Judge Jackson should meet with any unfortunate accidents, if a police officer should accidently shoot his head off, if he should fall off a building...then I will not be so forgiving.
DON'T LET THEM KILL JUDGE JACKSON !!!
I'm not kiddding. Microsoft has shown that they will do anything to win. I would not put them beyond murdering Judge Jackson. If he is killed, the whole process has been for naught. Please be on the lookout for beefy nerds drinking starbucks with bulges under their jackets. For the love of God, protect Judge Jackson !
Actuallly, I live in Northern New Jersey. I've been using their DSL for 8 months now. They are the most incompetent boobs I've ever run into. I can't wait until Cable rolls out internet service in the next couple of months.
is that how Bell Atlantic allocates dynamic IP's? I have a static IP from Bell Atlantic. Perhaps that's because I got it before they changed over to dynamic ip allocation.
is I can read the article without problem. Those damn script kiddies have corrupted me !!!
they have race conditions in a lot of their code. that's why you invariably see someone with a +6 or -2 comment. I guess Hope college's CS department sucks or Rob was one of those guys who thought he knew more than the profs because he used to copy Apple II games from magazines when he was younger.
I think what Signal 11 as talking about was the look and feel, the aethstetics of the visual components. You know, the nice anti-aliased stuff with crisp fonts. I don't think he was talking about the design and ease of use associated with the good looking components. Clearly in this aspect Microsoft has failed miserably.
Microsoft is like a hooker. It looks good from a distance but if you fuck with it you can get burned
I guess this means Microsoft is on its way down now, right ? Wrong.
What was this purpose of this article? I was aware of this Friday. I thought this was a news site...not a stock ticker.
is there a law that says original games can't be developed for Linux ? Descent may or may not be a great game (never played it) but I'm getting sick and tired of feeling like I haveto jump up and down because Linux users will have the pleasure of playing years old games. What is going on in the industry in terms of putting out original games on Linux? Does anyone know?
I just came back from CompUSA and I wandered in the section where they have magazines and books. What did I see there -- A Prima book giving hints and tips on Daikatana. The first thing that popped in my head was I wasn't even aware that it had been released. I guess it still hasn't. I flipped through the book to get a glimpse of the graphics and it wasn't very impressive. It sort of looked like a mutant Unreal.
The bad news, from my perspective, is that now our CRTC (controlling agency) has allowed "free market competition", we've lost control. What used to be a tightly regulated, tamed monopoly is now cut free. Can't tell 'em what to do any more... which, in the end, is a bad thing: we seem to be paying the same as always, but without the guarantee of consumer-benefits-oriented control. Bummer.
You almost had me thinking that you were a rational human until that paragraph. A more frightening series of thoughts I've never heard expressed before. I think your sentiments are the exact reason Canada and all other socialist welfare states are destined to lag behind the US. You actually believe the suckling on the gov't nipple is the way to go. You actually think a bunch of know-nothing bureacrats know what's best for you. All i can say is you deserve what you get.
We haven't had a USA vs Europe bashing article in quite some time !!!
Thanks slashdot !!!