I have found that the best compromise is analog stick in the left, mouse in the right. (I use a book or small table as a mousepad I've used that setup for console FPS's since Quake II for the PSone.
Wintel dominance in gaming? never existed. The only time PC gaming was the dominant electronic gaming paradigm was the short period after the crash of 84 and the rise of the NES in 86. The gaming PC of choice in that time period was the C64, which many people used ust like a console
PC gaming has been in decline for years, since about 1986. The markets getting smaller and smaller and more hardcore. Which is why there's the obsession with mods. Gee if there were more games, that were released on time there wouldn't be mods.
You're all playing CS because Valve takes too long to release games.
Sigh, it's not an either/or situation. A game can be produced that supports both. Nothing stopping the developer from putting in keyboard and mouse support no matter what. For example Quake II, X-com, C&C and Warzone 2100 all support the PSone mouse, but it's not required.
Almost all online games support keyboard for text entry. Most but not all PS2 FPS' support keyboard and mouse (Half Live and Deus Ex do) A smattering of other games do, You almost have to have a keyboard for the PS2 MMORPG's and in fact you can play them with the keyboard only if you want.
Yeah, I remember 1985, when computer magazines actually covered non IBM hardware. What really hurt "The Big Three" was two things:
1. "ability to work at home" mindset in a lot companies. Convince your workers they need to be able to take their work home and thusly those workers needed computers that could run their office software.
That meant that the home users who could afford computers were more likely to start buying IBM (or clone)
2. The return of the consoles. A LOT of people had bought Commodore's and Atari's just for games after the crash. When Nintendo showed up with the NES and it's ability to play some very complex games including large adventure games and RPG's it was all over for the C64.
I saw those screenshots of that AOL branded browser and IM running on a PS2. I wonder why they never released it. Oh well, at least those of us with Linux kits can run Firefox and Gaim. That's a close enough approximation.
The PC has never been dominant as a gaming plaftorm except for the very short period of time after the crash of 84 and the rise of the NES in 86. The gaming machine of choice in that period was the Commodore 64 which many people used pretty much as a console.
More than you might think. Almost all online enabled PS2 games support the keyboard for various text entry duties. Some FPSs also support keyboard and mouse. And the Linux kit comes with a keyboard and mouse.:-)
I find keyboard movement clumsy and I like console FPS's, that said, I like my console FPS's to support mouselook with a mouse. So I have my Dual Shock in my left hand and mouse, either the PSone mouse or USB mouse for PS2 in my right.
Until I can treat a console like a PC (ie: hook it up to an extremely high resolution monitor and have the option to use a keyboard and mouse), for me, it's going to be my second choice system.
Done!
All current generation game machines (PS2, Xbox, Gamecube) are fully capable of outputting higher than NTSC resolutions, Only in the Xbox is such support widespread, I really don't know why, maybe developers just didn't want to take the time to implement the higher rezzes when few people had displays to make use of them.
Keyboard and mouse: Done! That's what the PS2's USB ports are for, though I'm still surprised that Sony didn't do a general release of the nifty SCPH-10230 and 10240 (that's the PS2 badged mouse and keyboard included with the Linux kit.
But that's partly the point, what you liked at home, just portable-ized. Personally I think it's awesome to be able to play the Diablo/BGDA/Champions of Norrath clone Untold Legends no matter where I am. It's much better than lugging around an LCD screen equipped PSone with Diablo insde and a battery pack (or two)
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I have found that the best compromise is analog stick in the left, mouse in the right. (I use a book or small table as a mousepad I've used that setup for console FPS's since Quake II for the PSone.
I've got a Linux kit too. Lots of games support the keyboard and mouse, FPS's and online games mostly, a smattering of others.
I thought most households had multiple TV's?
until one can play Nethack on a console. And that time is right now. Compiles just fine on a PS2 with a Linux kit.
Wintel dominance in gaming? never existed. The only time PC gaming was the dominant electronic gaming paradigm was the short period after the crash of 84 and the rise of the NES in 86. The gaming PC of choice in that time period was the C64, which many people used ust like a console
PC gaming has been in decline for years, since about 1986. The markets getting smaller and smaller and more hardcore. Which is why there's the obsession with mods. Gee if there were more games, that were released on time there wouldn't be mods.
You're all playing CS because Valve takes too long to release games.
What's worse is that I've been reading e-mail and posting to Slashdot on my PS2 (with Linux kit) for three years.
Sure you can most certainly read e-mail on a console, FFXI owners do it.
And if you have a Linux kit for the PS2, you can do whatever you want, read your e-mail, post to Slashdot.
Sigh, it's not an either/or situation. A game can be produced that supports both. Nothing stopping the developer from putting in keyboard and mouse support no matter what. For example Quake II, X-com, C&C and Warzone 2100 all support the PSone mouse, but it's not required.
Almost all online games support keyboard for text entry. Most but not all PS2 FPS' support keyboard and mouse (Half Live and Deus Ex do) A smattering of other games do, You almost have to have a keyboard for the PS2 MMORPG's and in fact you can play them with the keyboard only if you want.
where have you been living?
Ever hear of Everquest Online Adventures and Final Fantasy XI? or all the Diablo clones on the PS2?
The only sim like PS2 flight game supports USB stick and throttle setups. :-)
You don't need to patch a console game, they do QA properly and don't turn the players into beta testers.
That said, online console games are a different story.
Try FPS's and online games.
It's even worse for some us. I run Linux on a non x86 MIPS box.
Dillo http://www.dillo.org/, on a Playstation 2 Linux kit.
Yeah, I remember 1985, when computer magazines actually covered non IBM hardware. What really hurt "The Big Three" was two things:
1. "ability to work at home" mindset in a lot companies. Convince your workers they need to be able to take their work home and thusly those workers needed computers that could run their office software.
That meant that the home users who could afford computers were more likely to start buying IBM (or clone)
2. The return of the consoles. A LOT of people had bought Commodore's and Atari's just for games after the crash. When Nintendo showed up with the NES and it's ability to play some very complex games including large adventure games and RPG's it was all over for the C64.
I saw those screenshots of that AOL branded browser and IM running on a PS2. I wonder why they never released it. Oh well, at least those of us with Linux kits can run Firefox and Gaim. That's a close enough approximation.
The PC has never been dominant as a gaming plaftorm except for the very short period of time after the crash of 84 and the rise of the NES in 86. The gaming machine of choice in that period was the Commodore 64 which many people used pretty much as a console.
Done!
Two MMORPG's for the PS2 Everquest Online Adventures and Final Fantasy XI. Both have keyboard support (and mouse support for FFXI)
As far as I know, Wine does not run on the PS2 Linux kit. Bochs does, but not very well I have read.
More than you might think. Almost all online enabled PS2 games support the keyboard for various text entry duties. Some FPSs also support keyboard and mouse. And the Linux kit comes with a keyboard and mouse. :-)
I find keyboard movement clumsy and I like console FPS's, that said, I like my console FPS's to support mouselook with a mouse. So I have my Dual Shock in my left hand and mouse, either the PSone mouse or USB mouse for PS2 in my right.
But that's partly the point, what you liked at home, just portable-ized. Personally I think it's awesome to be able to play the Diablo/BGDA/Champions of Norrath clone Untold Legends no matter where I am. It's much better than lugging around an LCD screen equipped PSone with Diablo insde and a battery pack (or two)