so how long until we stop spinning discs and start slinging bits?
When the auto industry gets their heads out of their asses and home media servers are as easy as an external hard drive to set up and as cheap.
We're finally getting to the point of optional iPod factory head units for autos now. Up until a year or two ago you had to go third party for that kind of thing. Once a universal standard comes around for portable media players they're will be a surge in head units supporting this. Until then there is going to be iPods and a few USB players/drives. The portable media player needs to mature a bit more before the auto industry will play catch up.
And for the 2-3 PC home both NAS and home media servers are still a bit on the high end of the price range. Geeks and technophiles have already jumped for it, everyone else sees it as an expensive toy like they did with LaserDisc.
Damn right it's not the same way but they sure are a lot of fun if you own a shotgun, someone to pitch them like a Frisbee and some #7 bird-shot shells.
A few years ago someone at worked asked me what the last Rush album was that came out on vinyl and after some poking around I found out that they all had up to the latest (Vapor Trails, IIRC). The thing is that many people lost touch with vinyl but the die-hards* kept with it. I don't know if it's the nostalgia factor or even if it's true that vinyl is making a comeback but the bottom line is that it wasn't a matter of the vinyl not being there but rather listeners who didn't know where to look.
* Yeah, if you're one of the small percentage of all people over the age of 17 who can really hear the difference. Otherwise you're probably only fooling yourself.
Certainly the majority of people are decent, no doubt, it's just the small percentage that can really drag a person down who takes things on good faith. Considering how much damage a jerk off and a lawyer can do to another person it's only good sense to cover your bases.
If you can't have enough faith in humanity to throw a lan party because you fear for all the items that could be stolen, accidents that could happen, insurances, law suits... Your attitude to life sucks.
Either that or you've had enough experience to not have faith in humanity...
For instance, my car was recently rear-ended by a woman in an SUV in some heavy traffic while I was stopped. There was a chain reaction and I hit the car in front of me. The woman agreed that all damage was her fault so I decided that we could let the police report slide as no one was injured. That was all good and well until 8:30 the next morning when her insurance company had called me to tell me that she claimed I had hit the car in front of me prior to her hitting me. Granted, if you could see pictures of the damage to the front of my car you'd realize quickly that there is no way she could have seen the damage to the front end of my car. But now me and my insurance company are taking it to court. I think we have a solid case but still the paper work alone makes it worth the time to cover your ass. And if I do lose the case? My insurance company is going to be eating a bill they shouldn't have and I'm going to be out of my deductible.
Faith in your fellow human is fantastic until some fucktard comes along and shows you that, yes Virgina, there are pricks in this world. And to think that this is a simple auto accident. Had there been an injury? God only knows what I'd be putting up with right now.
As I recall I did say that it probably would have been for the best to leave these devices at 6 instead of trying to upgrade. But there are several people in this very thread who claim that their understanding and experience with Linux is that hardware drivers and support of these driver gets better as time goes on. Based on what THEY said what happened in my case should have never have happened during an upgrade.
And why is it that anytime a weakness or fault in Linux is brought to the surface do we have to get people going on about MS this or Apple that? Why is it that we can't have a fair and level discussion of Linux without having to fight the (old and lame) OS battle over and over again?
Again, I brought up the simple question of Dell and their support for this device including newer versions of Ubuntu because of a few bad experiences I had and the next thing I know I'm being called a shill, basically being told I have to answer for Microsoft's support and community and systematically being modded down. I'm serious, what gives? I consider myself a Linux adopter at this point trying to make my way but I'm meeting some pretty harsh resistance for it. Is this what Joe Sixpack has to look forward to? If anything, I've shown much more tolerance and understanding than most "just throw it out the window" users ever would. I'm asking honest questions about the future of pre-installed Linux and what we can expect from the companies that are going to put their name on it and 80% of the feedback I'm getting pretty much tells me that since I'm not praising Linux up and down that I'm really not wanted.
And just as a side note, both of the device in question are P3s. I can, and have, run XP on P2s with worse specs than the Dell unit and it did run just fine "out of the box" but every piece of hardware has it's own hits and misses so I can't vouch for every little problem any more than you can. It's still no rational reason to rail on about Microsoft and Apple every single time a Linux flaw is brought to light.
Every one of them is likely to include DRM. It's the only way I can see to get around many of the questions involved but it's going to leave some consumers high and dry for a lengthy period until some bugs can be worked out...
If they're paying artists on a per-play basis this is a good way to shed the deadwood. But that means tracking plays. And that means having players that can track plays. So if they introduce this service, much like an ala carte iTunes, and they support iPod, Zune and a couple of other large players would this mean that people driving their 1992 Cavalier are going to have a tough time playing without either a replacement for the car stereos head?
Will it support multiple platforms? What about people without PCs?
If this is run like Rhapsody will I be given the option to still buy an album with an unlimited plays/time of play? Will that be DRM free?
20 bucks a month for open music listening is a drop in the bucket compared to what I paid for my personal collection. And the DRM wouldn't cause me too many problems in most likeliness. But that's only my situation.
Either way, I'm glad to see that it's a dialog at this point. There is a ton of possibilities and the fact that labels still put out new material means that there is still some value there. To snub the labels making in-roads to a new model seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face, IMHO.
Bullshit. steeviant asked you a series of fairly polite questions (hey, it's all relative, this is Slashdot) pertaining to your post.
Oh, you mean relative like....
You a little deliberately short on specifics
Not everyone in the world has the weak consumer laws that you're obviously subject to...
Yes, because Microsoft is just bending over backwards to support it's customers when they have problems. It's not like anyone has to google through forums to find solutions for windows problems because Microsoft's support is SOOOO outstanding.
Seriously, what does Microsoft offer in the way of support to a single home user that isn't available for a cheaper price for Ubuntu or another commercially supported distribution? This supposed support sounds like a fallacy to me, pretty much like the rest of this post. It's fine that you like Windows, but there's no need to make up FUD about Linux to justify your standpoint.
Windows seems like a perfectly fine solution for a certain class of user, and to them I say "To each their own, and mind your fucking bullshit when you talk about mine"
Is your version of relative is "If you can't say something good about Linux don't say anything at all?" Obviously the mods think so. I never said that Windows community support was better. If you think I did I ask you to quote me. I think people who read that read too much into what I was saying. I made no arguement either way but apparently steeviant likes to make it seem as if I did.
Would you like to take another turn at any of those?
Actually, I did go into more detail with a user who was decent enough to come off with a question instead of an attack at me for being a Windows user. Would it have been so hard for him to simply say "Can you tell me what exactly do you mean?" instead of being uppity about it? I think I posed a legitimate question. He nearly gave an answer but not quiet. What he did do is let me know that as a non-100% Linux user that I needed to shut up until everything worked right with Windows ("To each their own, and mind your fucking bullshit when you talk about mine").
Great way to come into the community. I feel real welcome.
With the Wacom thing it seems that I'm not alone. I found other people with the same machine who had the same problem but no real fixes. Being a "noob" to Linux it's hard for me to get a lot more in the way of specifics of what is and is not going on with the units.
Your original post made it sound as if you were pretty anti-Linux in the first place, so any legitimate concern of yours was at least partly masked by a doubt as to whether you really wanted a helpful reply. I think that explains your parent's emotional response at the end.
My saying that I don't plan on going 100% Linux is anti-Linux? Huh? Otherwise I really wish you would quote where I was anti-Linux. My point was more to the migration to various versions of Ubuntu. I thought I had made that pretty clear. And I only brought that up because I have seen working hardware under Ubuntu 6.0 go south after upgrading it to Ubuntu 8.0. I know that wasn't very clear but I never questioned Linux as a whole in the same breath.
But then you seem to use quite a bit of emotion yourself, with this "tizzy" stuff and the "you guys all turn your noses up" comment. Who is "you guys," anyway? The people who respond with fervor when you claim that the software that they use every day is inferior? Seriously, try some tact next time and maybe you won't get flamed.
Quote me where I claim that Linux is inferior. I said that community support was a weak for the problems I had with Linux. I seen plenty of people say the same about Windows community support and not get slapped down for it.
My problems are addressed in more detail here. And while both devices were not native Linux devices they did both run (mostly) fine in Unbuntu 6 but had problems after the upgrade to 8. One is a video driver issue or so it seems. I did one work around and it got the machine working but not at the native resolution of the monitor that it's on.
As far as I'm concerned, old stuff doesn't get dropped. It happened to me a lot, lack of upgraded drivers, when changing OS, mainly due to manufacturer going out of business, or dropping product lines, but no in Linux, mainly because drivers crawl into mainstream Linux, and the manufacturer no longer has full control and responsibility over the driver. Usually, just recompiling the driver just works(TM).
Even if that _were_ the case (which it is't),
Actually, which it is the case in my case.
If I may so humbly speak freely without being attacked by Mr. Hot Shit Linux (see his post down thread, I'm sure it'll be modded insightful although it's nothing but a troll)...
I own a HP 1100 tablet that worked just fine under Ubuntu 6.0 but when I upgraded to 8 I lost the stylus functions for the machine. I still haven't found a solution for this and I worked on it for several hours myself. This on top of the lack of support for the "soft" buttons both under 6.0 and 8.0. Should I have gone back to 6? Probably. But I'm still working these things out and community support is all too often filled with people who like to spit on "n00bs" such as myself.
I'm being very serious when I say that the amount of crap a new user has to put up with to get support is unbelievable. And mentioning being a Windows users in any way gets you blackballed regardless of the amount of "oh, we want users to migrate to Linux" banter that I hear.
I've also recently had the same experience with a video card in a Compaq T7000. It's an older ATI card that was put into the machine. Once I got Ubuntu upgraded on the machine to 8.0 I would lose the GUI. After frittering around with xcom.conf for a couple of hours I finally got it back to the GUI but it would no longer display in 1280 x 1024 even though it did it in 6.0. Again, should I have stuck with 6.0? Probably.
And that's the very legitimate question I was raising with this Dell unit. Are people buying this unit going to be told just to sit with 8.x? Is Dell going to support new distros once Ubuntu moves on? If the Linux community is serious about support these kinds of questions need answered but they need answered more by Dell since their name is on the product.
Sorry if I seem out of sorts but it's just bullshit how anytime I try to bring up concerns from a "newbie" that I find the heavy handed Linux fanbois shitting on me for asking. It's gotten real old.
And as far as recompiling a driver, I know nothing about this. Maybe it would work. I can't say. I've never tried this before nor has it ever been recommended in any of the forums I've read while trying to work my way through my Linux problems.
Windows seems like a perfectly fine solution for a certain class of user, and to them I say "To each their own, and mind your fucking bullshit when you talk about mine"
Man, talk about attitude. I come up with a legitimate concern and I get shit on for it?
Since I do run Windows on 66% of all my machines at home now I'm a spokesman for Windows? Come on now. I'm seriously coming off with the feeling that since I'm not 100% Linux I'm unworthy of ever questioning it? This is one of the reasons I don't like dealing with community support. There are far too many of "you" out there who, at the second I mention Windows, go off in a tizzy about how much worse Windows support supposedly is. After that you guys all turn your noses up and act like I'm not worth of running Linux since I don't dedicate myself to it.
Oh well, so be it. I guess I'm just a Microsoft shill in your eyes since I use it at my job and choose to keep it at home.
But in any case, as if I'm worthy of Linux, the devices in question didn't ship with Linux on them but, being the idiot I am, decided to give Linux a try. I won't be making that mistake again anytime soon.
Maybe you posted as an AC just to get a quick jab in but I would pose that question seriously.
It seems that, with the gadget crowd, Linux support is always sweet in the beginning as they oogle over the new machine but as soon as something new comes out the old gadget is left to collect dust. Suddenly Ubuntu moves on a version or two and people still running the old gadget are left in no man's land with support issues. The people who really understand Linux are too busy with the new gadget to support the old. It's the long term user who's left holding the bag.
Will Dell continue to support this as the distro progresses or should the unit come with a sticker warning the user not to upgrade beyond the current version? It's kind of burned my ass the number of times I tried to pull some older gadgets over to Linux only to find that if I use the distro's 2 or 3 year old package I was fine but if I wanted the latest and greatest I was busied with the work of just getting basic functionality going. The upgrade cycle concerns me too much in some cases to give Linux a try if the only support I have is community based.
I likely will not go "100%" Linux for a long long time. Most of it has to do with working in a Windows shop and, frankly, liking my games. But even if that wasn't an issue I still haven't warmed up to the community support aspect.
This would seem a lot neater, if not more worth while, if it had a dock option. I just look at what HP did with the 1100 tablet and it's dock and think that they had the right idea with some slight short comings. Something in the same vein could have been done with this.
This is certainly much better than that schlock from Courtney Love. Although I do find it disturbing that artists don't recognize an advance as a payment for recording. I certainly wish that I could get a year's salary in advance with no more than a promise that I would show up and hey, if I'm not as productive as my company hoped for, oh well, that's the breaks (for them).
And while I do appreciate your efforts I'm also doing my own research and I'm coming up with artists who are more forth coming about royalties and the digital distribution "revolution" people around here keep cawing on about that shows that artists (in certain situations) are much better off when a fan buys a CD over using iTunes and the royalties that I have seen quoted there off-set these numbers by a pretty far gap.
It still all comes down to the original question of the oft quoted "0.02". If these numbers in your example are set by a legitimate recording and it's sale than the artist actually walked away with 0.10 for doing nothing more than putting out an album regardless of it's sales.
I'm not the one claiming to be in on the know. I'm not the one making up figures to support a bullshit argument. I think I have a right to question a claim without evidence.
Why do I have to prove that the posters of made up figures are wrong? Fuck, if this was a debate about God I'm sure a lot of you people would back anyone who simply said "prove it". Proving what artists get paid for a recording should be a sight easier than proving the unknown.
I shouldn't have to prove what I didn't make up.
Everyone points to the Courtney Love thing as their single piece of evidence and it's far from real numbers. If you do the math you can figure out quickly that it doesn't add up and if she only makes 45K a year how is it she afford heroin and jet setting with the Hollywood types?
Well, if my higher-ups came up with a reason to use Vista I would accept it. But I have a hard time coming up with a reason that any business would need Vista outside of the IT industry.
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so how long until we stop spinning discs and start slinging bits?
When the auto industry gets their heads out of their asses and home media servers are as easy as an external hard drive to set up and as cheap.
We're finally getting to the point of optional iPod factory head units for autos now. Up until a year or two ago you had to go third party for that kind of thing. Once a universal standard comes around for portable media players they're will be a surge in head units supporting this. Until then there is going to be iPods and a few USB players/drives. The portable media player needs to mature a bit more before the auto industry will play catch up.
And for the 2-3 PC home both NAS and home media servers are still a bit on the high end of the price range. Geeks and technophiles have already jumped for it, everyone else sees it as an expensive toy like they did with LaserDisc.
Damn right it's not the same way but they sure are a lot of fun if you own a shotgun, someone to pitch them like a Frisbee and some #7 bird-shot shells.
The truth is that vinyl never went away.
A few years ago someone at worked asked me what the last Rush album was that came out on vinyl and after some poking around I found out that they all had up to the latest (Vapor Trails, IIRC). The thing is that many people lost touch with vinyl but the die-hards* kept with it. I don't know if it's the nostalgia factor or even if it's true that vinyl is making a comeback but the bottom line is that it wasn't a matter of the vinyl not being there but rather listeners who didn't know where to look.
* Yeah, if you're one of the small percentage of all people over the age of 17 who can really hear the difference. Otherwise you're probably only fooling yourself.
Er... That should be "I'll give this a shot."
Thanks for the help on this. Give this a shot.
Yes, I do.
Certainly the majority of people are decent, no doubt, it's just the small percentage that can really drag a person down who takes things on good faith. Considering how much damage a jerk off and a lawyer can do to another person it's only good sense to cover your bases.
If you can't have enough faith in humanity to throw a lan party because you fear for all the items that could be stolen, accidents that could happen, insurances, law suits... Your attitude to life sucks.
Either that or you've had enough experience to not have faith in humanity...
For instance, my car was recently rear-ended by a woman in an SUV in some heavy traffic while I was stopped. There was a chain reaction and I hit the car in front of me. The woman agreed that all damage was her fault so I decided that we could let the police report slide as no one was injured. That was all good and well until 8:30 the next morning when her insurance company had called me to tell me that she claimed I had hit the car in front of me prior to her hitting me. Granted, if you could see pictures of the damage to the front of my car you'd realize quickly that there is no way she could have seen the damage to the front end of my car. But now me and my insurance company are taking it to court. I think we have a solid case but still the paper work alone makes it worth the time to cover your ass. And if I do lose the case? My insurance company is going to be eating a bill they shouldn't have and I'm going to be out of my deductible.
Faith in your fellow human is fantastic until some fucktard comes along and shows you that, yes Virgina, there are pricks in this world. And to think that this is a simple auto accident. Had there been an injury? God only knows what I'd be putting up with right now.
Use the old caning rod on one of the gimps and claim that he stole a 32meg jump drive from you. That will keep them all honest.
As I recall I did say that it probably would have been for the best to leave these devices at 6 instead of trying to upgrade. But there are several people in this very thread who claim that their understanding and experience with Linux is that hardware drivers and support of these driver gets better as time goes on. Based on what THEY said what happened in my case should have never have happened during an upgrade.
And why is it that anytime a weakness or fault in Linux is brought to the surface do we have to get people going on about MS this or Apple that? Why is it that we can't have a fair and level discussion of Linux without having to fight the (old and lame) OS battle over and over again?
Again, I brought up the simple question of Dell and their support for this device including newer versions of Ubuntu because of a few bad experiences I had and the next thing I know I'm being called a shill, basically being told I have to answer for Microsoft's support and community and systematically being modded down. I'm serious, what gives? I consider myself a Linux adopter at this point trying to make my way but I'm meeting some pretty harsh resistance for it. Is this what Joe Sixpack has to look forward to? If anything, I've shown much more tolerance and understanding than most "just throw it out the window" users ever would. I'm asking honest questions about the future of pre-installed Linux and what we can expect from the companies that are going to put their name on it and 80% of the feedback I'm getting pretty much tells me that since I'm not praising Linux up and down that I'm really not wanted.
And just as a side note, both of the device in question are P3s. I can, and have, run XP on P2s with worse specs than the Dell unit and it did run just fine "out of the box" but every piece of hardware has it's own hits and misses so I can't vouch for every little problem any more than you can. It's still no rational reason to rail on about Microsoft and Apple every single time a Linux flaw is brought to light.
Are they supporting machines that ship with Ubuntu with newer version of Ubuntu throughout their life cycle?
Every one of them is likely to include DRM. It's the only way I can see to get around many of the questions involved but it's going to leave some consumers high and dry for a lengthy period until some bugs can be worked out...
If they're paying artists on a per-play basis this is a good way to shed the deadwood. But that means tracking plays. And that means having players that can track plays. So if they introduce this service, much like an ala carte iTunes, and they support iPod, Zune and a couple of other large players would this mean that people driving their 1992 Cavalier are going to have a tough time playing without either a replacement for the car stereos head?
Will it support multiple platforms? What about people without PCs?
If this is run like Rhapsody will I be given the option to still buy an album with an unlimited plays/time of play? Will that be DRM free?
20 bucks a month for open music listening is a drop in the bucket compared to what I paid for my personal collection. And the DRM wouldn't cause me too many problems in most likeliness. But that's only my situation.
Either way, I'm glad to see that it's a dialog at this point. There is a ton of possibilities and the fact that labels still put out new material means that there is still some value there. To snub the labels making in-roads to a new model seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face, IMHO.
Bullshit. steeviant asked you a series of fairly polite questions (hey, it's all relative, this is Slashdot) pertaining to your post.
Oh, you mean relative like....
You a little deliberately short on specifics
Not everyone in the world has the weak consumer laws that you're obviously subject to...
Yes, because Microsoft is just bending over backwards to support it's customers when they have problems. It's not like anyone has to google through forums to find solutions for windows problems because Microsoft's support is SOOOO outstanding.
Seriously, what does Microsoft offer in the way of support to a single home user that isn't available for a cheaper price for Ubuntu or another commercially supported distribution? This supposed support sounds like a fallacy to me, pretty much like the rest of this post. It's fine that you like Windows, but there's no need to make up FUD about Linux to justify your standpoint.
Windows seems like a perfectly fine solution for a certain class of user, and to them I say "To each their own, and mind your fucking bullshit when you talk about mine"
Is your version of relative is "If you can't say something good about Linux don't say anything at all?" Obviously the mods think so. I never said that Windows community support was better. If you think I did I ask you to quote me. I think people who read that read too much into what I was saying. I made no arguement either way but apparently steeviant likes to make it seem as if I did.
Would you like to take another turn at any of those?
Actually, I did go into more detail with a user who was decent enough to come off with a question instead of an attack at me for being a Windows user. Would it have been so hard for him to simply say "Can you tell me what exactly do you mean?" instead of being uppity about it? I think I posed a legitimate question. He nearly gave an answer but not quiet. What he did do is let me know that as a non-100% Linux user that I needed to shut up until everything worked right with Windows ("To each their own, and mind your fucking bullshit when you talk about mine").
Great way to come into the community. I feel real welcome.
With the Wacom thing it seems that I'm not alone. I found other people with the same machine who had the same problem but no real fixes. Being a "noob" to Linux it's hard for me to get a lot more in the way of specifics of what is and is not going on with the units.
Your original post made it sound as if you were pretty anti-Linux in the first place, so any legitimate concern of yours was at least partly masked by a doubt as to whether you really wanted a helpful reply. I think that explains your parent's emotional response at the end.
My saying that I don't plan on going 100% Linux is anti-Linux? Huh? Otherwise I really wish you would quote where I was anti-Linux. My point was more to the migration to various versions of Ubuntu. I thought I had made that pretty clear. And I only brought that up because I have seen working hardware under Ubuntu 6.0 go south after upgrading it to Ubuntu 8.0. I know that wasn't very clear but I never questioned Linux as a whole in the same breath.
But then you seem to use quite a bit of emotion yourself, with this "tizzy" stuff and the "you guys all turn your noses up" comment. Who is "you guys," anyway? The people who respond with fervor when you claim that the software that they use every day is inferior? Seriously, try some tact next time and maybe you won't get flamed.
Quote me where I claim that Linux is inferior. I said that community support was a weak for the problems I had with Linux. I seen plenty of people say the same about Windows community support and not get slapped down for it.
My problems are addressed in more detail here. And while both devices were not native Linux devices they did both run (mostly) fine in Unbuntu 6 but had problems after the upgrade to 8. One is a video driver issue or so it seems. I did one work around and it got the machine working but not at the native resolution of the monitor that it's on.
That's right, base your choice of OS on the politeness of every random joe in a forum. Logic rules!
Why not? He based his post on mine and got modded up! Tell me about the logic again?
As far as I'm concerned, old stuff doesn't get dropped. It happened to me a lot, lack of upgraded drivers, when changing OS, mainly due to manufacturer going out of business, or dropping product lines, but no in Linux, mainly because drivers crawl into mainstream Linux, and the manufacturer no longer has full control and responsibility over the driver. Usually, just recompiling the driver just works(TM).
Even if that _were_ the case (which it is't),
Actually, which it is the case in my case.
If I may so humbly speak freely without being attacked by Mr. Hot Shit Linux (see his post down thread, I'm sure it'll be modded insightful although it's nothing but a troll)...
I own a HP 1100 tablet that worked just fine under Ubuntu 6.0 but when I upgraded to 8 I lost the stylus functions for the machine. I still haven't found a solution for this and I worked on it for several hours myself. This on top of the lack of support for the "soft" buttons both under 6.0 and 8.0. Should I have gone back to 6? Probably. But I'm still working these things out and community support is all too often filled with people who like to spit on "n00bs" such as myself.
I'm being very serious when I say that the amount of crap a new user has to put up with to get support is unbelievable. And mentioning being a Windows users in any way gets you blackballed regardless of the amount of "oh, we want users to migrate to Linux" banter that I hear.
I've also recently had the same experience with a video card in a Compaq T7000. It's an older ATI card that was put into the machine. Once I got Ubuntu upgraded on the machine to 8.0 I would lose the GUI. After frittering around with xcom.conf for a couple of hours I finally got it back to the GUI but it would no longer display in 1280 x 1024 even though it did it in 6.0. Again, should I have stuck with 6.0? Probably.
And that's the very legitimate question I was raising with this Dell unit. Are people buying this unit going to be told just to sit with 8.x? Is Dell going to support new distros once Ubuntu moves on? If the Linux community is serious about support these kinds of questions need answered but they need answered more by Dell since their name is on the product.
Sorry if I seem out of sorts but it's just bullshit how anytime I try to bring up concerns from a "newbie" that I find the heavy handed Linux fanbois shitting on me for asking. It's gotten real old.
And as far as recompiling a driver, I know nothing about this. Maybe it would work. I can't say. I've never tried this before nor has it ever been recommended in any of the forums I've read while trying to work my way through my Linux problems.
Windows seems like a perfectly fine solution for a certain class of user, and to them I say "To each their own, and mind your fucking bullshit when you talk about mine"
Man, talk about attitude. I come up with a legitimate concern and I get shit on for it?
Since I do run Windows on 66% of all my machines at home now I'm a spokesman for Windows? Come on now. I'm seriously coming off with the feeling that since I'm not 100% Linux I'm unworthy of ever questioning it? This is one of the reasons I don't like dealing with community support. There are far too many of "you" out there who, at the second I mention Windows, go off in a tizzy about how much worse Windows support supposedly is. After that you guys all turn your noses up and act like I'm not worth of running Linux since I don't dedicate myself to it.
Oh well, so be it. I guess I'm just a Microsoft shill in your eyes since I use it at my job and choose to keep it at home.
But in any case, as if I'm worthy of Linux, the devices in question didn't ship with Linux on them but, being the idiot I am, decided to give Linux a try. I won't be making that mistake again anytime soon.
Maybe you posted as an AC just to get a quick jab in but I would pose that question seriously.
It seems that, with the gadget crowd, Linux support is always sweet in the beginning as they oogle over the new machine but as soon as something new comes out the old gadget is left to collect dust. Suddenly Ubuntu moves on a version or two and people still running the old gadget are left in no man's land with support issues. The people who really understand Linux are too busy with the new gadget to support the old. It's the long term user who's left holding the bag.
Will Dell continue to support this as the distro progresses or should the unit come with a sticker warning the user not to upgrade beyond the current version? It's kind of burned my ass the number of times I tried to pull some older gadgets over to Linux only to find that if I use the distro's 2 or 3 year old package I was fine but if I wanted the latest and greatest I was busied with the work of just getting basic functionality going. The upgrade cycle concerns me too much in some cases to give Linux a try if the only support I have is community based.
I likely will not go "100%" Linux for a long long time. Most of it has to do with working in a Windows shop and, frankly, liking my games. But even if that wasn't an issue I still haven't warmed up to the community support aspect.
This would seem a lot neater, if not more worth while, if it had a dock option. I just look at what HP did with the 1100 tablet and it's dock and think that they had the right idea with some slight short comings. Something in the same vein could have been done with this.
This is certainly much better than that schlock from Courtney Love. Although I do find it disturbing that artists don't recognize an advance as a payment for recording. I certainly wish that I could get a year's salary in advance with no more than a promise that I would show up and hey, if I'm not as productive as my company hoped for, oh well, that's the breaks (for them).
And while I do appreciate your efforts I'm also doing my own research and I'm coming up with artists who are more forth coming about royalties and the digital distribution "revolution" people around here keep cawing on about that shows that artists (in certain situations) are much better off when a fan buys a CD over using iTunes and the royalties that I have seen quoted there off-set these numbers by a pretty far gap.
It still all comes down to the original question of the oft quoted "0.02". If these numbers in your example are set by a legitimate recording and it's sale than the artist actually walked away with 0.10 for doing nothing more than putting out an album regardless of it's sales.
I have an eight year old HP that can do it.
I'm not the one claiming to be in on the know. I'm not the one making up figures to support a bullshit argument. I think I have a right to question a claim without evidence.
Why do I have to prove that the posters of made up figures are wrong? Fuck, if this was a debate about God I'm sure a lot of you people would back anyone who simply said "prove it". Proving what artists get paid for a recording should be a sight easier than proving the unknown.
I shouldn't have to prove what I didn't make up.
Everyone points to the Courtney Love thing as their single piece of evidence and it's far from real numbers. If you do the math you can figure out quickly that it doesn't add up and if she only makes 45K a year how is it she afford heroin and jet setting with the Hollywood types?
Well, if my higher-ups came up with a reason to use Vista I would accept it. But I have a hard time coming up with a reason that any business would need Vista outside of the IT industry.