I can see the arguments coming- "they don't make money from art sales, the middleman does." But again, how do they put food on the table?
Didn't you know The Beatles went to the poor house after they stopped touring? The same with Steely Dan. Heh.
I agree 100% here with you. All this banter about groups not making a buck off of record sales is true only of small bands that never go anywhere. Established bands that gain a core fanbase certainly do make money from record sales.
The thing is, art and any intellectual property takes time and effort to create. Why shouldn't the creators be compensated?
Not to mention material costs. I know some people will groan when I say this but a professional recording studio is not cheap. The equipment it takes to produce music is normally has a high price tag associated with it. Even in the age of digital music and cheap systems it's still not the same as really sitting down with the right equipment and not trying to produce music on a PowerBook in your basement.
Asbestos suit on!
Sadly this is the way it is around here. I'm surprised that people don't feel that proper compensation to an artist is a morally correct thing to do. All I have to say is that I hate to see the day when some of these people's wet dream of free media and endless touring comes true. If people think that contemporary music is a second-hand, sleezy, low-quality, low-brow affair today they ain't seen nothing yet.
Someday, keyboards and computer mice will be remembered only as medieval-style torture devices for the wrists. All work -- emails, spreadsheets, and Google searches -- will be performed by mind control.
Within the timeframe of the survey, yes. AFAIK this most recent survey took place in the last 5-6 days. I had my system polled for this over the weekend.
So if a large sector of the Steam population didn't happen onto this in the last few days you're going to end up with some skewed results.
I don't recall the last time the survey happened but I'm wondering if there is a wide swing in both the number of participants and the types of hardware/software used since most colleges are out. I know in the days when EQ1 was king there was always seemed to be a large drop off of players during college breaks.
I'll be honest since I've never played WoW; I can't speak from any experience except for EQ2.
More dependent on grouping? Tell that to my lvl 63 inkie shadowknight (according to most it's a "hard" race/class combo. heh!). 100% solo and show no signs of slowing down either.
I'm sorry but in this case I'm believing my experience over your hearsay. Especially since every I know who plays WoW has told me the opposite of what you've told me. Many of these include EQ2 players who I know well.
Then I came back a month or two before the expansion hit and have been having a blast ever since.
That's fine. I've never stopped having a blast with EQ2 but I must admit that I'm a very casual player (less then 5 hours a week).
With more and more MMORPG games coming into the market, and the quality of these games getting better and better, it's just a matter of time until a game comes along that will have enough appeal to give WoW some trouble.
Better != Appeal. As any number of fans of any form of entertainment and most typical merchandise can tell you; sales and popularity are not a true indicator of quality or talent.
As far as giving WoW some trouble? Who cares. If you're playing a game that you like it's a game that you like. As long as whatever MMORPG(s) anyone is playing aren't going under who cares about what WoW is doing? Aside from bean counters most people don't care who's the big kid on the block at the time. If you're playing WoW simply because it's fashionable that's pretty sad.
Chances are players will start leaving slowly for other games (most likely after a major patch release), rejoining the real world, etc, but Blizzard's time will come soon enough and chances are they will be their own downfall.
Actually, ask the people who've already left WoW to find out why they've left. The only former WoW addict that I know of left to play EQ2 and said that WoW became too tedious because of constant grouping and raids in the end game. She wanted to solo for the most part and enjoyed EQ2 because of it. I nearly game WoW a spin myself until I heard about the amount of raids and such. I just can not play a game on someone else's schedule and I enjoy soloing.
The sure way to tell if WoW is it's own worst enemy is to see if players are not as much looking for something new but getting bored with something old. Once people start talking about jumping ship with no lifeboat you know there are problems.
Aw, come on now, don't be so harsh. The scenes with Brian Cox drunk towards the end are pretty good too ("When you got to go, you got to go"). As is Farva attacking the fast food clerk. I do have to admit that some parts of the movie weren't as funny as some make it seem but I think it's a good film.
Mac: All right, how about "Cat Game?"
Foster: Cat Game? What's the record?
Mac: Thorny did six, but I think you can do ten.
Foster: Ten? Starting right 'meow?'
[Mac laughs - they walk up to the car, and Foster taps on the driver side]
Larry Johnson: Sorry about the...
Foster: All right meow. (1) Hand over your license and registration.
[the man hands him his license]
Foster: Your registration? Hurry up meow. (2)
[Mac ticks off two fingers]
Larry Johnson: Sorry.
[the man laughs a little]
Foster: Is there something funny here boy?
Larry Johnson: Oh, no.
Foster: Then why you laughing, Mister... Larry Johnson?
[pause]
Foster: All right meow, (3) where were we?
Larry Johnson: Excuse me, are you saying meow?
Foster: Am I saying meow?
[Mac puts his hands up for the fourth one, but makes an "eehhh" facial expression, as he is considering the last one]
Larry Johnson: I thought...
Foster: Don't think boy. Meow, (4) do you know how fast you were going?
[man laughs]
Foster: Meow. (5) What is so damn funny?
Larry Johnson: I could have sworn you said meow.
Foster: Do I look like a cat to you, boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree?
[Mac is gut-busting laughing]
Foster: Am I drinking milk from a saucer?
[feigned anger]
Foster: Do you see me eating mice?
Foster: [Mac and the man are laughing their heads off now] You stop laughing right meow! (6)
Larry Johnson: [the man stops and swallows hard] Yes sir.
Foster: Meow, (7) I'm gonna have to give you a ticket on this one. No buts meow. (8) It's the law.
[rips off the ticket and hands it to the man]
Foster: Not so funny meow, (9) is it?
Foster: [Foster gets up to leave, but Mac shakes his hands at him, indicating only nine meows] Meow! (10)
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Ummm... Ok. We've seen this tidbit of good advice over and over again. Why is it that we keep pounding away at it? From where I sit, good coders will have good coding practices without having to have it tattooed into their foreheads. A good coder takes interest in being (tada!) a good coder. People who need these type of simple coding tips beat into their heads are not interested in being good coders. It's that simple yet we see it repeated again and again.
Maybe we just need bad coders to be kicked to the curb. There are plenty of us who are willing to follow the basic standards of good coding because we want our code to be understandable by others. We don't see commenting code as drudgery. We don't need it beaten into us.
Let the deadwood go, for once and for all.
I know it seems like a rant but I'm always looking for these good coding practices articles and they all end up saying the same 6 or 8 things. It's becoming as tedious as reading some gaming sites top 10 FPSs... again. We know everyone loves UT and HalfLife. Enough already!
By the time the next version of Windows comes around people who currently own P4s and Core Duos aren't going to be worried about upgrading the OS on their existing machines.
Not to mention that it's all too common for software/hardware manufacturers to make these grandiose kinds of statements only to retract it at a later date. I've never seen the axe fall on such a standard without at least a few false announcements of abandonment. For example: I was told 2-3 years ago that both ATI and nVidia were both going to drop their AGP cards after the current (X800 era) versions. Way to go PCI-E!
OK, it isn't ice. 300 degree water under pressure is still just water.
It's a question of what ice really is. Is ice water at 0 degrees or less, or is ice simply a solid form of water? If you agree to the second condition then this is ice. It's all a matter of definition and conditions.
Do you honestly that Joe is going to opt for the $800 "vista ready" computer when it looks as though the $500 "ubuntu loaded" one is right next to it on the virtual shelf?
Um, care to quote a real price on the unit? Seeings as where Dell sells PCs with no OS for about the same prices as a Windows machine my guess it that a Linux machine won't be any cheaper. Not to even mention that OEM versions cost nowhere near the price of the retail box. There is no way that it's going to cost Dell 300 USD more per PC for even the best copy of Vista. No business would ever agree to that.
PS, Joe: you don't have to pony up another $200 for Office, either.
PS, Joe: OO is available on Windows too. No need to learn a new OS for a cheap office suite.
If Joe really wants open office it's already there for him today with no snags whatsoever.
The reason Vista made this happen is because the general population hated Vista *so much* that they just stopped buying computers.
Don't confuse the slashdot population versus the general population. The general population never even got enough of a whiff of vista to stop buying PCs with it on it.
That's very bad for Dell's business, which sent them looking for alternatives.
It's called XP. If you think for one second that users who migrated from XP to vista and hated vista are more willing to go to an "unknown" OS versus going back to XP you are out of your mind. And frankly, aside from what's been posted here I don't know many people who have a problem with vista. I have a few friends running it and the only complaint I've heard at all is that one guy can't run an eight year old game on it. He's admitted to not really looking into getting it working outside of the standard install.
This is our chance to open up the desktop market; here's hoping we don't screw it up.
Yeah, good luck with that. Seriously. I have nothing against Linux but the fanboism is really starting to stink up the place. Do you honestly think that the Windows user who can't be bothered to download Linux is going to jump at the chance to buy a machine with it on? At least with the download Joe Sixpack has a Windows disk to fall back on if Linux turns out to be something that he simply doesn't want. With the Dell offer he's either going to have to put up with an OS that he was already too lazy to download or he's going to have to go Windows on a retail basis. Guess what kind of bitching and moaning that's going to cause.
There is enough stuff out there today for Joe to get his taste of Linux if he's interested. You may get people to buy these machines but don't count on many "switchers". Somehow I doubt the more vocal fanbois in this cause are going to take up the banner of actually shelling out the bucks. Mouthpieces normally stop when their toe touches the waters, so to speak.
It certainly doesn't make one a hater either. Too bad so many on here can't take it for what it is and as far as it being a pinnacle of achievement I still stand being my remarks about Close Encounters.
the sfx in star wars were nothing short of staggering for the time.
You can only really say that in context with the number of special effects. Close Encounters came out the same year and if you were to put two snippets of both films side by side Close Encounters would win hands down. The effects in CEOTTK are clearly better. Superman came out a year later and the same could be said for it in the same context of doing more with the effects but simply having less of them. Ultimately it's an argument that has no clear winner aside from pointing to the budget of the film. Even then it's hard to win the argument that SW had "staggering" effects.
you are clearly about 18 years old and didnt see the original theatrical release.
Talk about an argument that got really old about two decades ago. Not everyone who walks that planet who was alive to see the originals (myself include, FYI) in 1977 latched onto Star Wars and held it high like a gift from God. Methinks that much of the wonderlust that still trails on from the original trilogy is more the smoke and mirrors of time over anything truely magical about these films. If you love it, you love it. I won't say that you're wrong. But to assume that because there are those of us (yes, I do mean myself included) who don't really go crazy over Star Wars are too young to recall the glory of Lucas is about as insightful as the Matrix fanbois who ran around for years shouting "If you didn't like the Matrix it's because you didn't understand the Matrix". It's annoying, it's petty elitism at it's worst and it's utterly false.
as such you have fuck all perspective on it.
Fantastic conclusion. What you're basically saying is that if you don't hold Star Wars on high as God's gift to sci-fi circa 1977 that you were either too young to experience it or that you have no appreciation for special effects? Does that mean that those 30-somethings today that may have just been old enough to remember Jedi in the theaters are saved from your self-righteous wrath? What does it say about those of us who did see it in the theaters who just weren't amazed by it to the point that 30 years later we can take it or leave it for what it is?
Get over it fanboi. The glory days of Lucas seem to have come to a screeching halt. The "staggering" effects of your little lovechild here lack the luster that you claim from movies made in the same couple of years. It's fine to be a fanboi on some levels but at some other point you have to turn around and understand that just because something is important to you doesn't mean it was the pinnacle of achievement.
"And I wonder, oh yes I wonder, will Elvis* take the place of Jesus in a thousand years..." -The Dead Kennedys
I live in the area and have known about this story for a week or two...
We was calling to see if school had been canceled due to weather. He called an hour before or after the bomb threat. When they matched the phone records versus the actual time of the call they found his number erroneously because of DST problems and the time difference.
Slashdot Mirror
The interview is in English but all the comments are in Czech
Stop the planet. I want to get off!
From now on I vow that when I code the code will be in English but the comments will be in Slovak.
I can see the arguments coming- "they don't make money from art sales, the middleman does." But again, how do they put food on the table?
Didn't you know The Beatles went to the poor house after they stopped touring? The same with Steely Dan. Heh.
I agree 100% here with you. All this banter about groups not making a buck off of record sales is true only of small bands that never go anywhere. Established bands that gain a core fanbase certainly do make money from record sales.
The thing is, art and any intellectual property takes time and effort to create. Why shouldn't the creators be compensated?
Not to mention material costs. I know some people will groan when I say this but a professional recording studio is not cheap. The equipment it takes to produce music is normally has a high price tag associated with it. Even in the age of digital music and cheap systems it's still not the same as really sitting down with the right equipment and not trying to produce music on a PowerBook in your basement.
Asbestos suit on!
Sadly this is the way it is around here. I'm surprised that people don't feel that proper compensation to an artist is a morally correct thing to do. All I have to say is that I hate to see the day when some of these people's wet dream of free media and endless touring comes true. If people think that contemporary music is a second-hand, sleezy, low-quality, low-brow affair today they ain't seen nothing yet.
Someday, keyboards and computer mice will be remembered only as medieval-style torture devices for the wrists. All work -- emails, spreadsheets, and Google searches -- will be performed by mind control.
You lazy bastards.
Within the timeframe of the survey, yes. AFAIK this most recent survey took place in the last 5-6 days. I had my system polled for this over the weekend.
So if a large sector of the Steam population didn't happen onto this in the last few days you're going to end up with some skewed results.
I don't recall the last time the survey happened but I'm wondering if there is a wide swing in both the number of participants and the types of hardware/software used since most colleges are out. I know in the days when EQ1 was king there was always seemed to be a large drop off of players during college breaks.
Huh? EQ2 is much more dependent on grouping.
I'll be honest since I've never played WoW; I can't speak from any experience except for EQ2.
More dependent on grouping? Tell that to my lvl 63 inkie shadowknight (according to most it's a "hard" race/class combo. heh!). 100% solo and show no signs of slowing down either.
I'm sorry but in this case I'm believing my experience over your hearsay. Especially since every I know who plays WoW has told me the opposite of what you've told me. Many of these include EQ2 players who I know well.
Then I came back a month or two before the expansion hit and have been having a blast ever since.
That's fine. I've never stopped having a blast with EQ2 but I must admit that I'm a very casual player (less then 5 hours a week).
The Middle Earth License is written in Elvish so you have no idea what you are agreeing to in the EULA.
You can't read Elvish? Heh. Amateur.
With more and more MMORPG games coming into the market, and the quality of these games getting better and better, it's just a matter of time until a game comes along that will have enough appeal to give WoW some trouble.
Better != Appeal. As any number of fans of any form of entertainment and most typical merchandise can tell you; sales and popularity are not a true indicator of quality or talent.
As far as giving WoW some trouble? Who cares. If you're playing a game that you like it's a game that you like. As long as whatever MMORPG(s) anyone is playing aren't going under who cares about what WoW is doing? Aside from bean counters most people don't care who's the big kid on the block at the time. If you're playing WoW simply because it's fashionable that's pretty sad.
Chances are players will start leaving slowly for other games (most likely after a major patch release), rejoining the real world, etc, but Blizzard's time will come soon enough and chances are they will be their own downfall.
Actually, ask the people who've already left WoW to find out why they've left. The only former WoW addict that I know of left to play EQ2 and said that WoW became too tedious because of constant grouping and raids in the end game. She wanted to solo for the most part and enjoyed EQ2 because of it. I nearly game WoW a spin myself until I heard about the amount of raids and such. I just can not play a game on someone else's schedule and I enjoy soloing.
The sure way to tell if WoW is it's own worst enemy is to see if players are not as much looking for something new but getting bored with something old. Once people start talking about jumping ship with no lifeboat you know there are problems.
Aw, come on now, don't be so harsh. The scenes with Brian Cox drunk towards the end are pretty good too ("When you got to go, you got to go"). As is Farva attacking the fast food clerk. I do have to admit that some parts of the movie weren't as funny as some make it seem but I think it's a good film.
Mac: All right, how about "Cat Game?"
Foster: Cat Game? What's the record?
Mac: Thorny did six, but I think you can do ten.
Foster: Ten? Starting right 'meow?'
[Mac laughs - they walk up to the car, and Foster taps on the driver side]
Larry Johnson: Sorry about the...
Foster: All right meow. (1) Hand over your license and registration.
[the man hands him his license]
Foster: Your registration? Hurry up meow. (2)
[Mac ticks off two fingers]
Larry Johnson: Sorry.
[the man laughs a little]
Foster: Is there something funny here boy?
Larry Johnson: Oh, no.
Foster: Then why you laughing, Mister... Larry Johnson?
[pause]
Foster: All right meow, (3) where were we?
Larry Johnson: Excuse me, are you saying meow?
Foster: Am I saying meow?
[Mac puts his hands up for the fourth one, but makes an "eehhh" facial expression, as he is considering the last one]
Larry Johnson: I thought...
Foster: Don't think boy. Meow, (4) do you know how fast you were going?
[man laughs]
Foster: Meow. (5) What is so damn funny?
Larry Johnson: I could have sworn you said meow.
Foster: Do I look like a cat to you, boy? Am I jumpin' around all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree?
[Mac is gut-busting laughing]
Foster: Am I drinking milk from a saucer?
[feigned anger]
Foster: Do you see me eating mice?
Foster: [Mac and the man are laughing their heads off now] You stop laughing right meow! (6)
Larry Johnson: [the man stops and swallows hard] Yes sir.
Foster: Meow, (7) I'm gonna have to give you a ticket on this one. No buts meow. (8) It's the law.
[rips off the ticket and hands it to the man]
Foster: Not so funny meow, (9) is it?
Foster: [Foster gets up to leave, but Mac shakes his hands at him, indicating only nine meows] Meow! (10)
Why do they keep calling? Non-different from a telemarketer: if they're calls aren't fruitful they'd have no reason to call.
Oh, sure, just the typical attitude I'd expect from a raving cultist.
Hey, who needs a gun when a Great Old One has got your back?
You should try it sometime. It's very liberating. mwahahahahahaha.
Yeah, and some of us do target shooting and never draw a firearm on another human being. Gun ownership != violent minded.
Disclaimer: I have not RTA.
From the blurb: one minute spent writing comments can save you an hour of anguish
Ummm... Ok. We've seen this tidbit of good advice over and over again. Why is it that we keep pounding away at it? From where I sit, good coders will have good coding practices without having to have it tattooed into their foreheads. A good coder takes interest in being (tada!) a good coder. People who need these type of simple coding tips beat into their heads are not interested in being good coders. It's that simple yet we see it repeated again and again.
Maybe we just need bad coders to be kicked to the curb. There are plenty of us who are willing to follow the basic standards of good coding because we want our code to be understandable by others. We don't see commenting code as drudgery. We don't need it beaten into us.
Let the deadwood go, for once and for all.
I know it seems like a rant but I'm always looking for these good coding practices articles and they all end up saying the same 6 or 8 things. It's becoming as tedious as reading some gaming sites top 10 FPSs... again. We know everyone loves UT and HalfLife. Enough already!
This makes you wonder what influence causes us to behave in the selfish, malicious manner we have all come to love.
MTV and the Springer Show? That's my guess.
Let's be honest, as much as most of us fly the banner of individuality the truth is that there is a ton of group think going on out there.
normally it's here, devx.com and tom's hardware.
By the time the next version of Windows comes around people who currently own P4s and Core Duos aren't going to be worried about upgrading the OS on their existing machines.
Not to mention that it's all too common for software/hardware manufacturers to make these grandiose kinds of statements only to retract it at a later date. I've never seen the axe fall on such a standard without at least a few false announcements of abandonment. For example: I was told 2-3 years ago that both ATI and nVidia were both going to drop their AGP cards after the current (X800 era) versions. Way to go PCI-E!
By the time you see the "sni..." it's already too late.
In all seriousness, a phonecall isn't going to make it to the right people in an acceptable amount of time to stop anything.
Now you'll see that your question's answer can only be the second choice.
Uh, yeah... that's what I said in a more roundabout way by presenting the phases concept (triple point).
OK, it isn't ice. 300 degree water under pressure is still just water.
It's a question of what ice really is. Is ice water at 0 degrees or less, or is ice simply a solid form of water? If you agree to the second condition then this is ice. It's all a matter of definition and conditions.
Just for the record: I am not a chemist.
How can a hybrid be anything but a partial hybrid?
Do you honestly that Joe is going to opt for the $800 "vista ready" computer when it looks as though the $500 "ubuntu loaded" one is right next to it on the virtual shelf?
Um, care to quote a real price on the unit? Seeings as where Dell sells PCs with no OS for about the same prices as a Windows machine my guess it that a Linux machine won't be any cheaper. Not to even mention that OEM versions cost nowhere near the price of the retail box. There is no way that it's going to cost Dell 300 USD more per PC for even the best copy of Vista. No business would ever agree to that.
PS, Joe: you don't have to pony up another $200 for Office, either.
PS, Joe: OO is available on Windows too. No need to learn a new OS for a cheap office suite.
If Joe really wants open office it's already there for him today with no snags whatsoever.
The reason Vista made this happen is because the general population hated Vista *so much* that they just stopped buying computers.
Don't confuse the slashdot population versus the general population. The general population never even got enough of a whiff of vista to stop buying PCs with it on it.
That's very bad for Dell's business, which sent them looking for alternatives.
It's called XP. If you think for one second that users who migrated from XP to vista and hated vista are more willing to go to an "unknown" OS versus going back to XP you are out of your mind. And frankly, aside from what's been posted here I don't know many people who have a problem with vista. I have a few friends running it and the only complaint I've heard at all is that one guy can't run an eight year old game on it. He's admitted to not really looking into getting it working outside of the standard install.
This is our chance to open up the desktop market; here's hoping we don't screw it up.
Yeah, good luck with that. Seriously. I have nothing against Linux but the fanboism is really starting to stink up the place. Do you honestly think that the Windows user who can't be bothered to download Linux is going to jump at the chance to buy a machine with it on? At least with the download Joe Sixpack has a Windows disk to fall back on if Linux turns out to be something that he simply doesn't want. With the Dell offer he's either going to have to put up with an OS that he was already too lazy to download or he's going to have to go Windows on a retail basis. Guess what kind of bitching and moaning that's going to cause.
There is enough stuff out there today for Joe to get his taste of Linux if he's interested. You may get people to buy these machines but don't count on many "switchers". Somehow I doubt the more vocal fanbois in this cause are going to take up the banner of actually shelling out the bucks. Mouthpieces normally stop when their toe touches the waters, so to speak.
It certainly doesn't make one a hater either. Too bad so many on here can't take it for what it is and as far as it being a pinnacle of achievement I still stand being my remarks about Close Encounters.
the sfx in star wars were nothing short of staggering for the time.
You can only really say that in context with the number of special effects. Close Encounters came out the same year and if you were to put two snippets of both films side by side Close Encounters would win hands down. The effects in CEOTTK are clearly better. Superman came out a year later and the same could be said for it in the same context of doing more with the effects but simply having less of them. Ultimately it's an argument that has no clear winner aside from pointing to the budget of the film. Even then it's hard to win the argument that SW had "staggering" effects.
you are clearly about 18 years old and didnt see the original theatrical release.
Talk about an argument that got really old about two decades ago. Not everyone who walks that planet who was alive to see the originals (myself include, FYI) in 1977 latched onto Star Wars and held it high like a gift from God. Methinks that much of the wonderlust that still trails on from the original trilogy is more the smoke and mirrors of time over anything truely magical about these films. If you love it, you love it. I won't say that you're wrong. But to assume that because there are those of us (yes, I do mean myself included) who don't really go crazy over Star Wars are too young to recall the glory of Lucas is about as insightful as the Matrix fanbois who ran around for years shouting "If you didn't like the Matrix it's because you didn't understand the Matrix". It's annoying, it's petty elitism at it's worst and it's utterly false.
as such you have fuck all perspective on it.
Fantastic conclusion. What you're basically saying is that if you don't hold Star Wars on high as God's gift to sci-fi circa 1977 that you were either too young to experience it or that you have no appreciation for special effects? Does that mean that those 30-somethings today that may have just been old enough to remember Jedi in the theaters are saved from your self-righteous wrath? What does it say about those of us who did see it in the theaters who just weren't amazed by it to the point that 30 years later we can take it or leave it for what it is?
Get over it fanboi. The glory days of Lucas seem to have come to a screeching halt. The "staggering" effects of your little lovechild here lack the luster that you claim from movies made in the same couple of years. It's fine to be a fanboi on some levels but at some other point you have to turn around and understand that just because something is important to you doesn't mean it was the pinnacle of achievement.
"And I wonder, oh yes I wonder, will Elvis* take the place of Jesus in a thousand years..." -The Dead Kennedys
* Feel free to substitute "Lucas" for "Elvis".
I live in the area and have known about this story for a week or two...
We was calling to see if school had been canceled due to weather. He called an hour before or after the bomb threat. When they matched the phone records versus the actual time of the call they found his number erroneously because of DST problems and the time difference.