It's actions like this that boldly proclaim that the ACLU should be brought up on changes of sedition against United States: at every turn they oppose lawfulness and that which is right.
One of the first reasons a company incorporates is to make it take the fall if they should be sued, rightly or wrongly, by another party.
As an aside:
No due process here...
You imply that a company and a client have a government-to-citizen relationship: they don't. Otherwise the company would be able to reign over the client with such things as incarceration. Instead they, companies, use contracts, written with the express interest of protecting themselves and their goals: to make a profit.
It would not surprise me, no, not one moment would it surprise me, if the ISP has in their contract, that the client agreed to, that they could cancel their service, without notice, for any reason.
And also, please do not be tempted to call this censorship: only governments can do that and ours is suppose to be hindered by the Constitution from doing so. The Democrats and their 'Fairness Doctrine' for Talk Radio only (as opposed to applying it to where it really belongs: television) are really into censorship by silencing their opposition. After all, who among Talk Radio's current listening audience wants to hear on Talk Radio what they already hear on the major network and 2/3rds of the major cable news outlets? Talk Radio is only successful because they filled a niche and are making a profit.
The Democrat push for the Fairness Doctrine is irony at it's best: for years liberals have been clamoring about the Bush Administration being fascists. But when the real fascists rear their heads they are strangely silent. What these false accusers don't realize is that they too are targets if they don't fall in line with the liberal, Democrat mind share.
Wasn't that his future father(-in-law) who told him that?
Ultimately, he sent up flags at the border when entering the country and he seems to have entered the country in a roundabout way so as to minimize the scrutiny of the government/CDC. If that is actually the case, why would he do that if he was so confident that he was not a threat to others?
Heroic? Since when is doing a right thing, like not putting others in mortal danger, heroic? If that were the case, then not driving my car 50 mph over the speed limit would also be heroic.
What you describe as normal is also selfish and wrong.
Sorry about that. Although I thought essentially the same thing about the laptop loser, I meant the TB infected knob mentioned in my parent post.
And, the parent post actually calmed my thoughts about the laptop in that the goof had permission to take it out of the country. I think we might have a bit of sensational reporting going on here meant to stir you and I up about something that could happen but didn't.
Speaker sidestepped No-Fly and other watchlists by flying to Prague, then to Montreal, and then driving to the United States.
Sounds to me that his actions were completely intentional, that he was not at all concerned about the health of others, that he wanted to fulfill his desires regardless of how it might affect others.
I wonder if there are charges that could be brought up against him.
In any case, you make a very good point about the human factor in security.
It's time for tort reform in this country; too many money-grubbing pigs are using a broken system to do things like channeling for the unborn to make cases in front of apparently easily manipulated people. All to the end of fattening their bank accounts.
I hope it turns out well for the OSS side of things.
In other news: I used to despise Microsoft. But, this kind of thing just makes me pity them; they just can't get it right. Oh, how I would hate to have to work for them. I'd be so frustrated and embarrassed.
Tivo's attitude is entirely compatible with BSD license's intent, but it isn't compatible with the GPL's intent to allow the tivo unit's user to fix bugs like DRM (yes, DRM is definitely a bug in the eyes of the user, and remember it is the user's interests the GPL protects).
I agree, especially about the bugs.
However, it would have been better for me to use a word other than 'end-user', since it traditionally means exactly what you said it does, and instead used something to express a generalized entity, whether it be an end-user or a company.
In order for a proprietary company, like Microsoft, Apple, and a host of other companies, to restrict you they have to re-license the changed product such that you would not have access to their changes (since it is no longer under the BSD license). Their "new-ish" creation would no longer be the same BSD-licensed software, but a different product and under their control: they, the companies, would have exercised their end-user freedom under the BSD license.
The product they started with, which would be BSD-licensed, would still be available for you to do what you want to do with it; that iteration of the software would still be free to you, the end-user.
...However, i think he mostly rubber-stamps most of the patches coming from his trusted lieutenants.
Seems like an efficient means of getting things done and it would fit with Linus' previous admittance to being lazy... but aren't all good programmers and sys-admins?
By this logic a dictatorship is the only free system, because it includes the freedom to take away yours. And the system lives with that "freedom".
By your logic you just condemned the GNU license in that: it takes away your freedom to 'not release' changes you have made to GNU'ed software and the 'freedom' under GNU'ed software absolutely lives by that dictated 'freedom'.
I only disagree with the parent poster in that I would have 'completely free' instead of 'truly free'.
However, as I think about it 'completely free' isn't 'completely' accurate either in that I think the difference between the BSD and GNU licenses is this:
the BSD license make the end user free (to do what they want with the software)
the GNU license(s) make the actual software free (for others to use/chance it as well)
Do you mean to imply there is some other subjective perspective we should be taking in describing our existence/world/experience (such as describing planets)?
The mere mention of shorter format times immediately makes me think that Windows "might" benefit from this: I've never had a long disk format time for ReiserFS, Ext3/2, nor UFS. But FAT and NTFS: give me a break. The long format times really makes Microsoft look stupid.
Yeah, they may: but red wood and cypress are both pretty good about avoiding rot (depending on their exposure to water, sun, and extremes of temperature).
But thanks for reminding me of that fire-retardant feature: it sure is cool.
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It's actions like this that boldly proclaim that the ACLU should be brought up on changes of sedition against United States: at every turn they oppose lawfulness and that which is right.
The law treats corporations as people.
One of the first reasons a company incorporates is to make it take the fall if they should be sued, rightly or wrongly, by another party.
As an aside:
You imply that a company and a client have a government-to-citizen relationship: they don't. Otherwise the company would be able to reign over the client with such things as incarceration. Instead they, companies, use contracts, written with the express interest of protecting themselves and their goals: to make a profit.It would not surprise me, no, not one moment would it surprise me, if the ISP has in their contract, that the client agreed to, that they could cancel their service, without notice, for any reason.
And also, please do not be tempted to call this censorship: only governments can do that and ours is suppose to be hindered by the Constitution from doing so. The Democrats and their 'Fairness Doctrine' for Talk Radio only (as opposed to applying it to where it really belongs: television) are really into censorship by silencing their opposition. After all, who among Talk Radio's current listening audience wants to hear on Talk Radio what they already hear on the major network and 2/3rds of the major cable news outlets? Talk Radio is only successful because they filled a niche and are making a profit.
The Democrat push for the Fairness Doctrine is irony at it's best: for years liberals have been clamoring about the Bush Administration being fascists. But when the real fascists rear their heads they are strangely silent. What these false accusers don't realize is that they too are targets if they don't fall in line with the liberal, Democrat mind share.
Wasn't that his future father(-in-law) who told him that?
Ultimately, he sent up flags at the border when entering the country and he seems to have entered the country in a roundabout way so as to minimize the scrutiny of the government/CDC. If that is actually the case, why would he do that if he was so confident that he was not a threat to others?
You should read the parent I was responding to. It has the context of my remarks, which were not about the laptop fellow.
Heroic? Since when is doing a right thing, like not putting others in mortal danger, heroic? If that were the case, then not driving my car 50 mph over the speed limit would also be heroic.
What you describe as normal is also selfish and wrong.
Sorry about that. Although I thought essentially the same thing about the laptop loser, I meant the TB infected knob mentioned in my parent post.
And, the parent post actually calmed my thoughts about the laptop in that the goof had permission to take it out of the country. I think we might have a bit of sensational reporting going on here meant to stir you and I up about something that could happen but didn't.
Sounds to me that his actions were completely intentional, that he was not at all concerned about the health of others, that he wanted to fulfill his desires regardless of how it might affect others.
I wonder if there are charges that could be brought up against him.
In any case, you make a very good point about the human factor in security.
Ah, no wonder: a lawyer said it.
It's time for tort reform in this country; too many money-grubbing pigs are using a broken system to do things like channeling for the unborn to make cases in front of apparently easily manipulated people. All to the end of fattening their bank accounts.
Ten years ago my step-brother was doing it often; don't know how long he dried it for or if he still does it. It worked for him.
I wouldn't do it to any of my current keyboards since they also have USB ports in them.
I hope it turns out well for the OSS side of things.
In other news: I used to despise Microsoft. But, this kind of thing just makes me pity them; they just can't get it right. Oh, how I would hate to have to work for them. I'd be so frustrated and embarrassed.
I agree, especially about the bugs.
However, it would have been better for me to use a word other than 'end-user', since it traditionally means exactly what you said it does, and instead used something to express a generalized entity, whether it be an end-user or a company.
Sort of.
In order for a proprietary company, like Microsoft, Apple, and a host of other companies, to restrict you they have to re-license the changed product such that you would not have access to their changes (since it is no longer under the BSD license). Their "new-ish" creation would no longer be the same BSD-licensed software, but a different product and under their control: they, the companies, would have exercised their end-user freedom under the BSD license.
The product they started with, which would be BSD-licensed, would still be available for you to do what you want to do with it; that iteration of the software would still be free to you, the end-user.
Seems like an efficient means of getting things done and it would fit with Linus' previous admittance to being lazy... but aren't all good programmers and sys-admins?
By your logic you just condemned the GNU license in that: it takes away your freedom to 'not release' changes you have made to GNU'ed software and the 'freedom' under GNU'ed software absolutely lives by that dictated 'freedom'.
I only disagree with the parent poster in that I would have 'completely free' instead of 'truly free'.
However, as I think about it 'completely free' isn't 'completely' accurate either in that I think the difference between the BSD and GNU licenses is this:
If only you knew.
Perhaps you should write about what you know.
If that doesn't seem more like 'play' than 'fun' then find that which is.
What? Are you not human?
Do you mean to imply there is some other subjective perspective we should be taking in describing our existence/world/experience (such as describing planets)?
Apparently they're interested in copying more than just U.S. missile technology.
The mere mention of shorter format times immediately makes me think that Windows "might" benefit from this: I've never had a long disk format time for ReiserFS, Ext3/2, nor UFS. But FAT and NTFS: give me a break. The long format times really makes Microsoft look stupid.
In a large enough organization, why can't the 'subordinates' be managers?
Well, you can't say you didn't learn something valuable: now so have I (about what to bring on my next camping trip).
Yeah, they may: but red wood and cypress are both pretty good about avoiding rot (depending on their exposure to water, sun, and extremes of temperature).
But thanks for reminding me of that fire-retardant feature: it sure is cool.I suppose they could bottle it and pump it into the water of drink dispensers at Taco Bell.
Trees eventually rot and sure do burn easily.