well maybe that is the case. OR maybe they are just people who signed up for the no call list do to it's marketing( people have been pushing it on the news/web/etc without realizing what great deals they may miss out on.
Do to the nature of the DNC law many companies in our industry where no longer going to market to customers on the DNC list. Now if we where calling and sellng things on the phone that may sound like what was intended. However while we are legally "telemarketers" we almost exclusively call people who have requested information from us and sent us their number to call.
Although the DNC law has exeptions written into it for our type of company, they are so vague and the penalties SO high, that we have been leaning to no longer marketing to those people.
Also we offer lots of free services to existing customers. We call them on the phone, offer them for free and often generate new sales that way. The new sales is enough to PAY for the free services and still keep it profitable for us. These are people who have purchased from us before and usually are very happy to hear from us. Under the DNC,if the purchase has been over 18 months, we can not call people listed. Now we need to offer these services every 2 years or so depending on the client. I bet when our clients signed up for the DNC they did not realize they would lose out on some free financial services worth a pretty penny( our clients are wealthy people but still). Nobody told them that it restricted types of calls that they would want to get.
Under the FTC regualtion if you make 1 call a year to sell or promote the sell of goods and/or services you engage in telemarketing. This law is SO broadly worded that all companies would be included in it eventually.
you misunderstand telemarketers are NOT harrasing people because they are not one group calling over and over again. they are many different companies calling you every once in a while( or should be) and it bothers you. That is not harrasment.
the law violates the 1st amendment because it does not ban all telemarketing calls. It exempts them for certain reasons. Courts( SCOTUS) have ruled this to be "prior restraint" or in laymens terms deciding what I can say before it is said, rather than after. And that is a no no acording the the constitution.
it is NOT a single state ruling against it. It is a FEDERAL judge who happens to be locatd in OK. Federal District courts are scattered all over the US.
well the majority of american voters at one time supported the enslavement of black people. They also supported geneocide for native americans. I would say 50 million people could be dead wrong.
Firt as a person who does some biz over the phone( we call people who send us requests to call them) I can tell you that this current law SUCKS. It makes a bunch of costly paperwork and stuff for us. Plus I have had to talk to lawyers from the FTC AND the FCC and nobody can tell me exactly what I have to do to comply.
Secondly the law is a violation of teh 1st amendment. The surpeme court ruled on a colorado state law that prevented door to door canvassing. The law was almost exactly the same and the court said it violated the 1st amendment. If you do not like it, we can change the 1st amendment to exempt phone sales from protection, but to do that we have to change the 1st amendment. Free speech comes with costs. Hearing people say things you do not like or do not want to hear is one of those costs.
well I know a hosting company that charges.30 per gig of bandwidth. so 90 gig would be $27 bucks. They are purchasing their BW from a phone company and reselling so I know that the cable co's can make money at that price too.
does Vonage sound like good deal to anyone here? I mean i can get unlimted LD from MCIor from my local bell telephone company on a land line for roughly the same price. If i get the physical line installed i get the extra BW from that line. If I go with Vonage i am paying my net provider(cable. dsl, T1, etc) for the bandwidth.
He MAY have been closet poly. Nobody is sure. It sounds as if he certain ly knew the future was painted poly.
your post contains the tones of an anti poly biggot? I hope this is not the case. polyphobes have no place on the net.
fear no evil SUCKED kinda.CAt who walks through walls sucked BAD..but starship troopers was good...Stranger in a Strange Land was teh best Sci Fi ever!
The only way to stp spam is for people to stop buying products from spammers. The success of spam only shows that in their heart of hearts many people like spam, ergo they purchase from it.
Spam filtering only increases the amount of spam to be sent, thus using more bandwidth.
does anybody here not see the financial interest aol, earthlink, etc have? By banning email from smaller, lesser known ISP's they can encourage people to switch to the big boys(ms, aol, yahoo, road runner, earthlink, etc). I can see the ads now" Microsoft emails are NEVER turned away by corperate ISP level spam filters so you can be sure your email will get through!"
well laptops and PDA's will "replace"desktops when home servers become popular. I am currently in a house with 3 PC's. We are also wireless. Why woud i need to use a desk top, why not just use a laptop or PDA to surf and run programs off my server?
well hackers with boring names like,john smith, are referred to by their handles when they get busted. So if you read about a hacker named "Dork Vader" or whatever, his real name is prolly john smith. If you read about a hacker named vladmere kirstistoly his name is likely cooler than his alias.
i use the ATM line at the movies now. The line is 3 times shorter than the regular "Cash "line. It is great. Of course one time it shorted me a ticket, but the non robot ticket taker could decipher I had three tickets from the printout receipt.
you missed part of my post. This law restricts certain kinds of TM calls NOT all. That si how it restricts free speech.
well maybe that is the case. OR maybe they are just people who signed up for the no call list do to it's marketing( people have been pushing it on the news/web/etc without realizing what great deals they may miss out on. Do to the nature of the DNC law many companies in our industry where no longer going to market to customers on the DNC list. Now if we where calling and sellng things on the phone that may sound like what was intended. However while we are legally "telemarketers" we almost exclusively call people who have requested information from us and sent us their number to call. Although the DNC law has exeptions written into it for our type of company, they are so vague and the penalties SO high, that we have been leaning to no longer marketing to those people. Also we offer lots of free services to existing customers. We call them on the phone, offer them for free and often generate new sales that way. The new sales is enough to PAY for the free services and still keep it profitable for us. These are people who have purchased from us before and usually are very happy to hear from us. Under the DNC ,if the purchase has been over 18 months, we can not call people listed. Now we need to offer these services every 2 years or so depending on the client. I bet when our clients signed up for the DNC they did not realize they would lose out on some free financial services worth a pretty penny( our clients are wealthy people but still). Nobody told them that it restricted types of calls that they would want to get.
Under the FTC regualtion if you make 1 call a year to sell or promote the sell of goods and/or services you engage in telemarketing. This law is SO broadly worded that all companies would be included in it eventually.
you misunderstand telemarketers are NOT harrasing people because they are not one group calling over and over again. they are many different companies calling you every once in a while( or should be) and it bothers you. That is not harrasment.
the law violates the 1st amendment because it does not ban all telemarketing calls. It exempts them for certain reasons. Courts( SCOTUS) have ruled this to be "prior restraint" or in laymens terms deciding what I can say before it is said, rather than after. And that is a no no acording the the constitution.
it is NOT a single state ruling against it. It is a FEDERAL judge who happens to be locatd in OK. Federal District courts are scattered all over the US.
well the majority of american voters at one time supported the enslavement of black people. They also supported geneocide for native americans. I would say 50 million people could be dead wrong.
Firt as a person who does some biz over the phone( we call people who send us requests to call them) I can tell you that this current law SUCKS. It makes a bunch of costly paperwork and stuff for us. Plus I have had to talk to lawyers from the FTC AND the FCC and nobody can tell me exactly what I have to do to comply. Secondly the law is a violation of teh 1st amendment. The surpeme court ruled on a colorado state law that prevented door to door canvassing. The law was almost exactly the same and the court said it violated the 1st amendment. If you do not like it, we can change the 1st amendment to exempt phone sales from protection, but to do that we have to change the 1st amendment. Free speech comes with costs. Hearing people say things you do not like or do not want to hear is one of those costs.
well I know a hosting company that charges .30 per gig of bandwidth. so 90 gig would be $27 bucks. They are purchasing their BW from a phone company and reselling so I know that the cable co's can make money at that price too.
does Vonage sound like good deal to anyone here? I mean i can get unlimted LD from MCIor from my local bell telephone company on a land line for roughly the same price. If i get the physical line installed i get the extra BW from that line. If I go with Vonage i am paying my net provider(cable. dsl, T1, etc) for the bandwidth.
ok if that won SECOND place, what project one the first place?
it is because of you. I too party with these girls. They get naked with me!
He MAY have been closet poly. Nobody is sure. It sounds as if he certain ly knew the future was painted poly. your post contains the tones of an anti poly biggot? I hope this is not the case. polyphobes have no place on the net.
fear no evil SUCKED kinda.CAt who walks through walls sucked BAD..but starship troopers was good...Stranger in a Strange Land was teh best Sci Fi ever!
RIAA is actually an oligopoly. It is a group of large companies acting together in a way that prevents entry into the marketplace.
The only way to stp spam is for people to stop buying products from spammers. The success of spam only shows that in their heart of hearts many people like spam, ergo they purchase from it. Spam filtering only increases the amount of spam to be sent, thus using more bandwidth.
actually they have plenty of basis. Unfair competitive practices.
does anybody here not see the financial interest aol, earthlink, etc have? By banning email from smaller, lesser known ISP's they can encourage people to switch to the big boys(ms, aol, yahoo, road runner, earthlink, etc). I can see the ads now" Microsoft emails are NEVER turned away by corperate ISP level spam filters so you can be sure your email will get through!"
well laptops and PDA's will "replace"desktops when home servers become popular. I am currently in a house with 3 PC's. We are also wireless. Why woud i need to use a desk top, why not just use a laptop or PDA to surf and run programs off my server?
why not just use the tracking on parcels and not post?
the glass is NEVER empty. It is always completely full. The air to water ratio may have changed, but a vacuum was NOT created.
well hackers with boring names like ,john smith, are referred to by their handles when they get busted. So if you read about a hacker named "Dork Vader" or whatever, his real name is prolly john smith. If you read about a hacker named vladmere kirstistoly his name is likely cooler than his alias.
make it a membership club. Pay 20.00 per year and get unlimited access to the clubs library.
what get's me is that the fact that renting CD's is illegal. This is a TOTAL sham. Owning them in co op , however, is not illegal.
i use the ATM line at the movies now. The line is 3 times shorter than the regular "Cash "line. It is great. Of course one time it shorted me a ticket, but the non robot ticket taker could decipher I had three tickets from the printout receipt.
considering the fact that the employees at fast food restaraunts in texas speak only spanish, a touch screen to order from would be a blessing.