"the whole service is based on listening to remote files. If you want to burn CDs you pay an extra charge over what you already stumped up, for a DRM-controlled AAC download. Which to me makes Rhapsody a rather expensive radio station."
What radio stations let you choose what songs you want to hear?
"4: I can get several albums full off of allofmp3.com for the same price , perhaps i could get more off rhapsody yes. Atleast with allofmp3 i would own the music and could do what the hell i wanted with it."
allofmp3.com is illegal. You may as well just say, "I can download the music for free from p2p networks"
"So, who wants to be the first to give us a list of all those wonderful inventions that would have never been invented if it wasn't for the copyright law?"
"I hope the media companies hear this loud and clear... I will GLADLY buy high-quality un-DRM'd content. Let me repeat that... GLADLY. That means lossless compression for audio and DVD quality for video. They need to figure out their distribution model. I find it hard to believe that manufacturing discs and paying for shipping and retail overhead is a better cost model than allowing download. But for now, I will continue to buy CDs and DVDs because I can then rip the content and have the high-quality un-DRM'd files that I'm looking for. OR, they could increase their profit margin by allowing the same thing as a data transfer."
Tell them how to solve the problem of trading unDRMed files online and they would gladly sell you unDRMed content.
" the ipod carrying generation finaly has the wealth to make a difference"
Yes, I'd be angry too if I spent all that money on a iPod, and then found out Apple won't let online music stores such as Napster make their music copaitble with my iPod.
"Controller for an MRI scanner? Proprietary is OK. Microcode for an anti-lock braking system? Proprietary is OK. Your company's business logic, web services, email, word processing, version control? Free alternatives exist - proprietary is not OK. That's the pragmatic answer, which just happens to correspond with the ideological one.
If you don't mind living at the whims of a third party who rarely has your best interests in mind, then maybe gratis isn't such an irrational choice. If you want to own your own data, though, then libre trumps gratis in every single case I've ever come across."
You talk as if open source coders have your best interests in mind. If they produce inferior software, then this certainly isn't true. If it's not cost effective to hire people to fix the problem, and no one else is working on making it do what you want, then it may as well be proprietary, for all the good the open code does you.
""And I think you've missed the point...most people don't give a shit whether it is free as in anything as long as it does what they need."
Agreed, sadly, that this is typical human nature. It is also the precise mechanism throughout history by means of which freedom gets lost."
How does making a choice cause freedom to get lost. Isn't that the definition of freedom? It's not like people are making choices that limit other people's freedom, they're simply making the choices they think are the best for themselves in terms of the software they prefer to use.
RMS's mantra limits your choices. Thankfully, he doesn't have the power to make his mantra into laws. So, he must convince people that he is right, and they have the choice to agree or not, as it should be.
"Well, think of it like this: we stepped outside, noticed the house was on fire, and we're trying to tell you to get the fuck out of there while you still can. Yes, I'd say we're a pretty zealous lot."
Except that the house is not on fire. You just don't like living in it, and therefore, no one else should live in it either.
Longhorn has been in development for years. Just because Apple is releasing their latest OS earlier doesn't mean they were first with an idea. They release OS updates twice as often as MS in general. There's nothing revolutionary about either Tiger or Longhorn anyway, so I'm not sure what the big deal is.
"The wolf reveals it's true colours. Now do the same to the RIAA and throw all their court cases out untill further investigate (which will lead to price fixing and various other crimes being "discovered"). And since it's been proven that this companies buy people off it'll be impossible to buy off the judge/jury because people wille xpect it and if it seems fishy it'll be looked into."
Yes, let the guilty go free over technicalities. I love America. And while we're at it, let's portray the victims as wolves for trying to give cops incentives to enforce the law.
"It is about time they are investigated but I fear they may buy out the investigation."
Right, we should spend our time investigating officers getting kickbacks for enforcing the law. That should be a much higher priority than investigating officers who are paid to break the law.
They modded up the grandparent post, who is talking about what OO dreams of being, and modded down the parent post, who described what OO actually is like.
"
It just works, if... It just works, if... (Score:2, Funny) by EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) Alter Relationship on Friday April 22, @03:55PM (#12316771) (http://www.americanp...?c=biJRJ8OVF& b=44918) If it will 'just work' in the future, we would see some of the 'just working' in Windows XP.
But noo....
But sometime you need to scroll down a list, no... the other list. Yeah, that one. Select 'properties'-- what? No, right click on the icon, and select 'properties'. And then... no wait it's not here. Click 'cancel'. Ok, now click 'cancel' again. Now, hit the 'x' in the upper right hand corner of the screen.
Now go to "start: settings: Control Panel", click on "Users Accounts", click on "change account", click on your username. What? No, I don't know why they have a.NET password in here. Yeah, it has something to do with that "Windows Messenger" that keeps poping up in then system tray. Now click on 'Change my name", and then change your name.
Sometimes it just works."
Better than Windows98 or MacOS 9, where I can delete someone elses file, and it just works.
"So, I ask you, have you been successful in moving your education or business organization from MS Office to OpenOffice?"
After upgrading our Solaris boxes (with Windows pc cards running office) to Linux boxes, we experimented with using Open Office. The general consensus is that people here hate Open Office. These are engineers too, with no particular allegiance to either OSS or MS. OO is not very compatible with MS Office in rendering documents. We've decided now to run Windows under vmware on the Linux boxes, and are pursing this avenue in hopes of improving our productivity.
You still haven't explained why you want to put the kids at a disadvantage by having no exposure to MS Office. Sure it may not be a requirement, but the extra things on a resume are often what makes a difference in getting hired when there are more applicants than jobs.
"The biggest problem with people adopting open source in my mind is that they are afraid to try something new. Introduce them to something new in the beginning and they will use it. Chances are they will stick with it. If they move to Word later, at least they gave it a chance."
Yes, Indoctrinate them into your belief system early.
"The complementary, independent, selfless acts of thousands of individuals can address system problems -- there are thousands of people making the system stronger."
How is it a selfless act to work on something you love to do and get paid for it? Many people making the major contributions to OSS are paid by groups such as OSDL, or companies such as IBM.
"The cost was only secondary. Remind me again, how will this bill better serve the public?"
RTFA. Don't rely on biased/. posts. The opposing viewpoint is that the NOAA is wasting taxpayer money providing these services for free. Their arguemnet is the public is better served paying less taxes for service they don't necessarily need.
The front page post on/. links to an article, and yet gives a completely lopsided summary of the article.
Also from the article: "But Barry Myers, AccuWeather's executive vice president, said the bill would improve public safety by making the weather service devote its efforts to hurricanes, tsunamis and other dangers, rather than duplicating products already available from the private sector.
"The National Weather Service has not focused on what its core mission should be, which is protecting other people's lives and property," said Myers, whose company is based in State College, Pa. Instead, he said, "It spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year, every day, producing forecasts of 'warm and sunny.'"
Whether or not you agree with the opposing viewpoint, you should make some effort to report it. Michael Moore would be proud of this lopsided reporting that he claims is documentary work, and now apparently passes for news on/.
Actually, to clarify, Libertarians believe a business owner can hire and fire anyone for any reason, provided it doesn't violate an existing contract with the employee. They believe making rules about who you can hire and fire is a violation of the business owner's freedom. So, theoretically, a bigot could discriminate against gay people in hiring practices. On the other hand, Libertarians would have no problem with gay marriage between consenting adults. So when you talk about a gay-rights bill, it depends what you mean. Gay people would have the same rights as everyone else in a Libertarian society.
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" I feel obligated to point out that you can't really get a 5GHz processor from AMD or Intel, either."
What data do you have to support the notion that the powerpc chip has 67% better performance at the same clock rate as AMD or Intel chips?
"the whole service is based on listening to remote files. If you want to burn CDs you pay an extra charge over what you already stumped up, for a DRM-controlled AAC download. Which to me makes Rhapsody a rather expensive radio station."
What radio stations let you choose what songs you want to hear?
"4: I can get several albums full off of allofmp3.com for the same price , perhaps i could get more off rhapsody yes. Atleast with allofmp3 i would own the music and could do what the hell i wanted with it."
allofmp3.com is illegal. You may as well just say, "I can download the music for free from p2p networks"
"So, who wants to be the first to give us a list of all those wonderful inventions that would have never been invented if it wasn't for the copyright law?"
GPL?
"I hope the media companies hear this loud and clear... I will GLADLY buy high-quality un-DRM'd content. Let me repeat that... GLADLY. That means lossless compression for audio and DVD quality for video. They need to figure out their distribution model. I find it hard to believe that manufacturing discs and paying for shipping and retail overhead is a better cost model than allowing download. But for now, I will continue to buy CDs and DVDs because I can then rip the content and have the high-quality un-DRM'd files that I'm looking for. OR, they could increase their profit margin by allowing the same thing as a data transfer."
Tell them how to solve the problem of trading unDRMed files online and they would gladly sell you unDRMed content.
" the ipod carrying generation finaly has the wealth to make a difference"
Yes, I'd be angry too if I spent all that money on a iPod, and then found out Apple won't let online music stores such as Napster make their music copaitble with my iPod.
"Controller for an MRI scanner? Proprietary is OK. Microcode for an anti-lock braking system? Proprietary is OK. Your company's business logic, web services, email, word processing, version control? Free alternatives exist - proprietary is not OK. That's the pragmatic answer, which just happens to correspond with the ideological one.
If you don't mind living at the whims of a third party who rarely has your best interests in mind, then maybe gratis isn't such an irrational choice. If you want to own your own data, though, then libre trumps gratis in every single case I've ever come across."
You talk as if open source coders have your best interests in mind. If they produce inferior software, then this certainly isn't true. If it's not cost effective to hire people to fix the problem, and no one else is working on making it do what you want, then it may as well be proprietary, for all the good the open code does you.
""And I think you've missed the point...most people don't give a shit whether it is free as in anything as long as it does what they need."
Agreed, sadly, that this is typical human nature. It is also the precise mechanism throughout history by means of which freedom gets lost."
How does making a choice cause freedom to get lost. Isn't that the definition of freedom? It's not like people are making choices that limit other people's freedom, they're simply making the choices they think are the best for themselves in terms of the software they prefer to use.
RMS's mantra limits your choices. Thankfully, he doesn't have the power to make his mantra into laws. So, he must convince people that he is right, and they have the choice to agree or not, as it should be.
"Well, think of it like this: we stepped outside, noticed the house was on fire, and we're trying to tell you to get the fuck out of there while you still can. Yes, I'd say we're a pretty zealous lot."
Except that the house is not on fire. You just don't like living in it, and therefore, no one else should live in it either.
Longhorn has been in development for years. Just because Apple is releasing their latest OS earlier doesn't mean they were first with an idea. They release OS updates twice as often as MS in general. There's nothing revolutionary about either Tiger or Longhorn anyway, so I'm not sure what the big deal is.
" Why is it that this makes me want to do a little happy dance? :)
/.er who wants copyright to be unenforcable so he can get free stuff.
I bet the MPAA thought that while their actions might have been *technically* illegal, they certainly weren't hurting anybody.
Sound familiar?"
Yes, another
"The wolf reveals it's true colours. Now do the same to the RIAA and throw all their court cases out untill further investigate (which will lead to price fixing and various other crimes being "discovered"). And since it's been proven that this companies buy people off it'll be impossible to buy off the judge/jury because people wille xpect it and if it seems fishy it'll be looked into."
Yes, let the guilty go free over technicalities. I love America. And while we're at it, let's portray the victims as wolves for trying to give cops incentives to enforce the law.
"It is about time they are investigated but I fear they may buy out the investigation."
Right, we should spend our time investigating officers getting kickbacks for enforcing the law. That should be a much higher priority than investigating officers who are paid to break the law.
They modded up the grandparent post, who is talking about what OO dreams of being, and modded down the parent post, who described what OO actually is like.
"& b=44918)
.NET password in here. Yeah, it has something to do with that "Windows Messenger" that keeps poping up in then system tray. Now click on 'Change my name", and then change your name.
It just works, if...
It just works, if... (Score:2, Funny)
by EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) Alter Relationship on Friday April 22, @03:55PM (#12316771)
(http://www.americanp...?c=biJRJ8OVF
If it will 'just work' in the future, we would see some of the 'just working' in Windows XP.
But noo....
But sometime you need to scroll down a list, no... the other list. Yeah, that one. Select 'properties'-- what? No, right click on the icon, and select 'properties'. And then... no wait it's not here. Click 'cancel'. Ok, now click 'cancel' again. Now, hit the 'x' in the upper right hand corner of the screen.
Now go to "start: settings: Control Panel", click on "Users Accounts", click on "change account", click on your username. What? No, I don't know why they have a
Sometimes it just works."
Better than Windows98 or MacOS 9, where I can delete someone elses file, and it just works.
"So, I ask you, have you been successful in moving your education or business organization from MS Office to OpenOffice?"
After upgrading our Solaris boxes (with Windows pc cards running office) to Linux boxes, we experimented with using Open Office. The general consensus is that people here hate Open Office. These are engineers too, with no particular allegiance to either OSS or MS. OO is not very compatible with MS Office in rendering documents. We've decided now to run Windows under vmware on the Linux boxes, and are pursing this avenue in hopes of improving our productivity.
You still haven't explained why you want to put the kids at a disadvantage by having no exposure to MS Office. Sure it may not be a requirement, but the extra things on a resume are often what makes a difference in getting hired when there are more applicants than jobs.
OO is not 100% compatible with MS Office. Although files generated by MS Office are readable by OO, they often do not render correctly in OO.
"The biggest problem with people adopting open source in my mind is that they are afraid to try something new. Introduce them to something new in the beginning and they will use it. Chances are they will stick with it. If they move to Word later, at least they gave it a chance."
Yes, Indoctrinate them into your belief system early.
"I've got too much experience with Windows to consider it for an enterprise environment."
Apparently you should have said, "I don't have enough experience with Windows to consider it for an enterprise environment"
" If there was truth in advertising."
You must be pretty incompetent if you can't get a Windows box to work.
"The complementary, independent, selfless acts of thousands of individuals can address system problems -- there are thousands of people making the system stronger."
How is it a selfless act to work on something you love to do and get paid for it? Many people making the major contributions to OSS are paid by groups such as OSDL, or companies such as IBM.
"The cost was only secondary. Remind me again, how will this bill better serve the public?"
/. posts. The opposing viewpoint is that the NOAA is wasting taxpayer money providing these services for free. Their arguemnet is the public is better served paying less taxes for service they don't necessarily need.
RTFA. Don't rely on biased
The front page post on /. links to an article, and yet gives a completely lopsided summary of the article.
/.
Also from the article:
"But Barry Myers, AccuWeather's executive vice president, said the bill would improve public safety by making the weather service devote its efforts to hurricanes, tsunamis and other dangers, rather than duplicating products already available from the private sector.
"The National Weather Service has not focused on what its core mission should be, which is protecting other people's lives and property," said Myers, whose company is based in State College, Pa. Instead, he said, "It spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year, every day, producing forecasts of 'warm and sunny.'"
Whether or not you agree with the opposing viewpoint, you should make some effort to report it. Michael Moore would be proud of this lopsided reporting that he claims is documentary work, and now apparently passes for news on
Actually, to clarify, Libertarians believe a business owner can hire and fire anyone for any reason, provided it doesn't violate an existing contract with the employee. They believe making rules about who you can hire and fire is a violation of the business owner's freedom. So, theoretically, a bigot could discriminate against gay people in hiring practices. On the other hand, Libertarians would have no problem with gay marriage between consenting adults. So when you talk about a gay-rights bill, it depends what you mean. Gay people would have the same rights as everyone else in a Libertarian society.