Yes. It frees up more people from doing mindless drudge work. Our civilisation is a story of freeing people from doing mindless labor so that they can do interesting things.
Mmmm. Give people who trust you dangerous, verifiably false advice. Some of those people get seriously hurt. Decide you'd better do what you can to protect the rest from your idiocy.
It's better than if she'd taken the McCarthy approach, but I don't think high fives are in order.
Slashdot has posted quite a few non-church related vaccine-stupidity stories.
Admittedly religious people seem to have a predilection for believing stuff some idiot tells them, but lots of other people do too. In the former case the idiots wear robes. In the latter they often wear... not much. (NSFW, if you couldn't figure that out)
Wakefield experimented illegally on children and faked his results. They should be ignored. Lots of OTHER, not faked, results show that vaccines don't have any connection to autism, contradicting Wakefield's fake results.
I'm not sure where you're getting that Jones falsified data. He was specifically cleared of any wrongdoing by an inquiry. Regardless, even if he did, lots of OTHER results show that man made CO2 is causing the planet to warm.
You're cherry picking two examples (one of which you made up) and ignoring thousands of others.
It doesn't matter. If there's an evolutionary pressure (an increased risk of dying is an evolutionary pressure) then adaptations will emerge if they don't already exist. If believing stupid shit puts you at a greater risk of dying then, even if there aren't any genes for believing stupid shit, genes for NOT believing stupid shit will turn up eventually.
Not at all. The ACs point was that you can deduce everything without any observation. If I didn't give you the information you should have figured it out for yourself, using pure reason.
In actual fact, mathematics itself was developed in such a way that it's consistent with observation. It's applied side doubly so.
All good experiments. Really, the article just gave an example of why public spectacles are bad ways to do science. The article was one of the silly popular ones that get published in journals' non-scientific sections, written by journals for "outreach" though, so it's not surprising.
Quite possible. Rivalry that involves decade long engineering projects is more about what you think the other guy is going to do next rather than what he's actually doing now. Which is why terrorists aren't quite the impetus communists were. "Al-Quaida is building a Mars rocket!" is a joke. "The Soviets are going to put nukes on the moon!" was a crisis.
I was hoping the US would take things a little more seriously when the Chinese started putting people in orbit, but the overwhelming attitude seems to be "yawn, we've been doing that for fifty years." Maybe it'll happen when they land on the moon. Hopefully we don't have to wait until they get to Mars.
You seem to be well in the grip of xenophobic hatred though. Vote some funding to those "pansy ass scientists" hey?
Your own example fails you. It is quite possible to propose a set of axioms that lead to a system where 2+2 is NOT 4. In fact, two of "anything" plus two of "anything" does not always add up to four. Two steps north plus two steps west, for example. Or a sine wave of amplitude 2 plus a cosine wave of amplitude 2. Notice also that these observations lead us into richer areas of mathematics.
Mathematics is useful where it matches up with what happens in the real world, as determined by experiment, NOT because it is some sort of unique system that emerges wholly formed from pure reason.
I'm a scientist. I make a bit of a habit of going around telling people with mainstream ideas they're wrong. Nobody has called for me to be fired and blacklisted.
Mods, parent isn't informative. It's repeating a tired old myth that's believed by people who don't have any idea how modern science works and for some reason would like very much to believe it's just like religion.
If your breath has CO2 in high enough concentration to kill you, you'd better start breathing more. A normal person can breathe their own exhalations for a bit before the concentration of CO2 rises high enough to be a problem.
And his "auxiliary hypothesis" explains how metal boats float.
I wonder why Galileo didn't just push the wafer of ebony below the surface though. Then it would have sunk for sure. Floating isn't just the ability to precariously cling to the surface.
You've got it backwards. The evolutionary advantage is that your brain recognizes it's own body's parts. That recognition uses consistent sensory feedback to figure out what's part of you. Then some scientists come along and screw with that feedback.
Soul? Really? That's a bit of a leap, even compared to the other woo being slung all over these comments, no?
I didn't say the fear was unjustified (you guys DID invade them with the explicit purpose of putting down their revolution, so their paranoia wasn't unjustified either).
A couple hundred million space faring, nuke building, half-the-world-controlling communists just seem to be a more credible threat, and better motivation to do impressive things than a few thousand religious nutjobs in a desert half the world away with AK-47s you gave them.
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Yes. It frees up more people from doing mindless drudge work. Our civilisation is a story of freeing people from doing mindless labor so that they can do interesting things.
Good. There are few more obnoxious drivers than cabs. And truckers aren't far behind.
About as much as every car in the parking lot unlocks when you hit the button on your keyless entry fob.
You're right. The left lane is a passing lane.
I don't know where you are, but where I am slower traffic is supposed to keep right. There are signs that say so even.
The MMR vaccine in use in Canada has never contained thimerosal: http://immunize.ca/en/publications-resources/questions/additives.aspx
I suppose Quebec could have been using some black market stuff they scored off the back of a truck somewhere. Quebec does stuff like that.
Along with Washington, Idaho and Oregon?
There's no mercury in the measles vaccine used in Canada either. In fact, MMR in Canada has never contained mercury.
And before you say "I was talking about whooping cough, moon, cheese, Cleese!11!", there's no mercury in that one either. US or Canada.
By the way, I'm Canadian.
Mmmm. Give people who trust you dangerous, verifiably false advice. Some of those people get seriously hurt. Decide you'd better do what you can to protect the rest from your idiocy.
It's better than if she'd taken the McCarthy approach, but I don't think high fives are in order.
There hasn't been any mercury in the measles vaccine used in the US for years.
Slashdot has posted quite a few non-church related vaccine-stupidity stories.
Admittedly religious people seem to have a predilection for believing stuff some idiot tells them, but lots of other people do too. In the former case the idiots wear robes. In the latter they often wear... not much. (NSFW, if you couldn't figure that out)
You got all the way to Job before you thought that?
Niven's "A Comedy of Justice" follows that same line of though, BTW. Satan turns out to be a pretty cool guy. God is... not.
Wow... incomplete summary much?
Wakefield experimented illegally on children and faked his results. They should be ignored. Lots of OTHER, not faked, results show that vaccines don't have any connection to autism, contradicting Wakefield's fake results.
I'm not sure where you're getting that Jones falsified data. He was specifically cleared of any wrongdoing by an inquiry. Regardless, even if he did, lots of OTHER results show that man made CO2 is causing the planet to warm.
You're cherry picking two examples (one of which you made up) and ignoring thousands of others.
It doesn't matter. If there's an evolutionary pressure (an increased risk of dying is an evolutionary pressure) then adaptations will emerge if they don't already exist. If believing stupid shit puts you at a greater risk of dying then, even if there aren't any genes for believing stupid shit, genes for NOT believing stupid shit will turn up eventually.
It is indeed evolution in action.
It doesn't have to kill you all off in one generation. Just a slow weeding out of detrimental genes.
Not at all. The ACs point was that you can deduce everything without any observation. If I didn't give you the information you should have figured it out for yourself, using pure reason.
In actual fact, mathematics itself was developed in such a way that it's consistent with observation. It's applied side doubly so.
All good experiments. Really, the article just gave an example of why public spectacles are bad ways to do science. The article was one of the silly popular ones that get published in journals' non-scientific sections, written by journals for "outreach" though, so it's not surprising.
Quite possible. Rivalry that involves decade long engineering projects is more about what you think the other guy is going to do next rather than what he's actually doing now. Which is why terrorists aren't quite the impetus communists were. "Al-Quaida is building a Mars rocket!" is a joke. "The Soviets are going to put nukes on the moon!" was a crisis.
I was hoping the US would take things a little more seriously when the Chinese started putting people in orbit, but the overwhelming attitude seems to be "yawn, we've been doing that for fifty years." Maybe it'll happen when they land on the moon. Hopefully we don't have to wait until they get to Mars.
You seem to be well in the grip of xenophobic hatred though. Vote some funding to those "pansy ass scientists" hey?
Your own example fails you. It is quite possible to propose a set of axioms that lead to a system where 2+2 is NOT 4. In fact, two of "anything" plus two of "anything" does not always add up to four. Two steps north plus two steps west, for example. Or a sine wave of amplitude 2 plus a cosine wave of amplitude 2. Notice also that these observations lead us into richer areas of mathematics.
Mathematics is useful where it matches up with what happens in the real world, as determined by experiment, NOT because it is some sort of unique system that emerges wholly formed from pure reason.
I'm a scientist. I make a bit of a habit of going around telling people with mainstream ideas they're wrong. Nobody has called for me to be fired and blacklisted.
Mods, parent isn't informative. It's repeating a tired old myth that's believed by people who don't have any idea how modern science works and for some reason would like very much to believe it's just like religion.
If your breath has CO2 in high enough concentration to kill you, you'd better start breathing more. A normal person can breathe their own exhalations for a bit before the concentration of CO2 rises high enough to be a problem.
And his "auxiliary hypothesis" explains how metal boats float.
I wonder why Galileo didn't just push the wafer of ebony below the surface though. Then it would have sunk for sure. Floating isn't just the ability to precariously cling to the surface.
You've got it backwards. The evolutionary advantage is that your brain recognizes it's own body's parts. That recognition uses consistent sensory feedback to figure out what's part of you. Then some scientists come along and screw with that feedback.
Soul? Really? That's a bit of a leap, even compared to the other woo being slung all over these comments, no?
You're just determined to be offended, hey? I don't even understand where you got that from. Made it up?
I didn't say the fear was unjustified (you guys DID invade them with the explicit purpose of putting down their revolution, so their paranoia wasn't unjustified either).
A couple hundred million space faring, nuke building, half-the-world-controlling communists just seem to be a more credible threat, and better motivation to do impressive things than a few thousand religious nutjobs in a desert half the world away with AK-47s you gave them.
Back then you were scared to death of communists, and those same communists were launching people (and possibly nuclear weapons) into space.