Right now, SharePoint 2007 MOSS and WSS is literally exploding in the marketplace. Companies are taking their.NET programmers and sending them to SharePoint bootcamps, and other methods of training as fast as they can, because nobody anticipated the demand for people skilled in these tools.
But, once someone is up to speed in MOSS, they can write their ticket nationwide, leaving their former employer to pound sand, having just put out thousands in training fees.
You dont have to be very high up in a corporation, just have a marketable skill, and you can just bail.
Say what you will about them, scream bloody murder at their tactics, more often than not, when Republicans want to win a big election, they usually do. Obama has lost momentum, Hillary still has her delegates, and what is Obama doing?
A Hawaiian vacation, bitches!
McCain put out a devastating ad today, quoting only famous Democrats saying good things about him.
Come November, it will probably be McCain taking the oath, and Democrats again, yelling SHENANIGANS from the bleachers.
Obviously there is much we don't agree upon, so I wont go back into that, but I would ask you to research the fact that when you combine Federal, State and local government taxes on Gasoline in America, because you will discover that their take rivals and in some cases exceeds oil company profits. Start in California, with its 43 different blends of gasoline, and its laws restricting the importation of fuel from surrounding states.
As someone with insane medical expenses of my own, I draw the line in arguing with persons trying to keep their head above water while battling illness at the same time.
I read the whole thread thinking SOMEONE would mention this, but I forgot, this is Slashdot.....
You should set up a small ISA Server lab, and use its monitoring tools to tell you EXACTLY what the apps you are testing are doing, when they are doing it, and from where.
Another advantage of ISA, is that you can control apps via Active Directory. Combine that with packet inspection, and you have something where you can know the exact behavior of an app on your network. One DC, one ISA box and a couple of workstations (XP and Vista) and you can learn whatever you want to know about what an application is up to, when and where.
I repeat, even if you dont think ISA is secure (it is when done right) its the monitoring tools and the integration with AD that are what you need to get the job done.
I'm guessing your wife left you for someone with some economic sense?
Its so amazing how some folks think Bush is an idiot, while at the same time think he is able to control everything so completely. (Here comes the figurehead argument, just watch)
Oil prices are high due primarily to Speculators who have bid up the market price, in anticipation of domestic supply shortages. The mere mention of offshore drilling off our coasts caused speculators to drop the barrel price by $10 in ONE DAY.
Everyone blames oil companies for their record profits, when they should be watching profit MARGINS, which have remained static for the past decade for the majors like Exxon and others.
I'm sorry for your plight, but you make it worse on yourself by not educating yourself on issues upon which you choose to comment.
Fuel is NOT expensive, except in relation to what you are USED to paying. Spend a day in Italy, and you would LOVE what gasoline costs back here in America.
Lastly, my poor, uniformed buddy;.... Gas prices have NOTHING to do which bank failures, nothing whatsoever. Banks fail when people cannot repay their loans, which is what happens when banks make bad loans to unqualified people, which happens when the federal government under Bill Clinton ORDERS banks to do just that, which is what created the Mortgage Brokerage industry, and the proceeding Real Estate bubble.
The only problem is that Salmon fishing has been banned this year from California to Washington state, making the cost of Salmon similar to a monthly mortgage payment.
Tilapia is a trash fish, with the wrong Omega nutrient balance, proven bad for human consumption, but unfortunately, cheap enough for the masses. I watched some show on the BBC about Chicken farming a few years ago, and have not touched a Chicken since then. Nasty!
I like a Steak just seared on the outside, bloody throughout, (Black and Blue).
For if not for her, Obama would not be in public office, much less running for President.
Jeri Ryan was married to a former shoo-in for the U.S. Senate out of Illinois; a man who liked to show off his wife's amazing body at swingers clubs. She divorced him over it, and had their records sealed, but his original Senate opponent (Obama) filed suit to have the records opened. When the records were made public, Mr. Ryan, who was leading Obama in the polls by like, 40 points, was forced to drop out of the race.
The republicans substituted that freak Alan Keyes, and Obama beat him easily.
So, were it not for the extreme hotness of Jeri Ryan, and her ex-husband forcing her into swinging, Obama would have never been a Senator, and not in a position to be President today.
Democrats should be sending Jeri Ryan flowers or somethin....
An easy answer would be: "What is doing the job of either SharePoint or Exchange better than they are?" Obviously nothing. From your response, I would guess you are expert at neither product, especially with your DNS issues. If you were using a DNS with Active Directory that was not BIND8 compliant, than you deserved problems. Again, if there is something better than Exchange, why does it have almost no serious competition except for die-hard Notes fanatics?
Finally, find me ONE product that does all the things that MOSS does, especially when combined with Office 2007. The adoption rate for MOSS is tremendous, because it solves so many business problems right out of the box, that all the custom code needed to make earlier versions productive is 90% unnecessary.
I'm glad you think Excel and Visual Studio are "decent"; otherwise, I would call you a complete fool.
You see, many of you try to define Microsoft by YOUR rules. That is stupid.
To suggest that "Microsoft is failing at everything they do" is just ridiculous. Microsoft is concerned about the generation of DOLLARS. Their rules are about making MONEY. In that sense, they are spectacularly successful at what they do, whether you or I agree with their motivation, ethics or whatever.
Its like trying to say that China sucks because they are not a Democracy. Sure, they may suck indeed to you and me, but to China, they are doing just fine.
Stallman is a horrible spokesperson, in the sense that he allows himself through his own words to be defined as a kook, allowing his goals to be written of as the rantings of a madman.
Way to insure that people continue to believe (in numbers greater than anyone wants to admit) that the whole FOSS thang is nothing but an expression of Socialism.
Do us all a favor, Stallman? The next time you want to go off half-cocked like that, you stuff your favorite Che Guevera t-shirt in your mouth and bite down until the thought goes away?
I wasn't suggesting that bringing the tech along is a bad idea, its just a dangerous proposition when you have one who doesn't know when to shut up. In the example I used above, surely the salesperson could have found a more artful way of relaying the information, even offering timelines against incremental payments for what worked and what didnt. Most times, you need to get your foot in the door, do a good enough job to expand the business potential, then profit.
I WAS the tech dude for most of my career, but now that I own the business, I'm at the other end of the table doing the sales thing, but with integrity. You never want to say something to get kicked out of the building, before you have a chance to propose your value proposition. A bad tech will do that to you when you least expect it. I know. I've been that guy, and I learned the hard way.
There is nothing more dangerous than the mouth of a technical person during a product sale. The job "Sales Engineer" was literally invented for techies who know when to shut up and when to answer a technical question without verbosity, negativity or (stupid) honesty.
More potential sales have been destroyed by techies talking too much in a meeting with prospective clients than empty beer bottles in Ireland.
Example:
Sales guy-"I'm telling you, Lotus Notes can do that right now, and in addition it can-.............."
Technical dude-"Well, yeah, but not really, its kind of a hack, but we hope in the next release to tighten that up, we were in a ru-.........."
Client-"Thanks for coming, guys! You need your parking validated?"
Marketing in charge of technical products also gets you Exchange Server, Visual Studio, Visual Basic, Excel and SharePoint.
But, I can see how you might still think that a bad thing if you worked for Lotus or Borland. But then, those guys NEVER let the marketing dweebs near their product groups, right?
OEM Vendors are indeed managed via the marketing department, which negotiates those contracts. Marketing at Microsoft is not limited to the development of the sales proposition for the various products, but is responsible for all aspects of the public product image, even if through vendor-related dealing. Its called Channel Marketing.
We had it good, because we were the FIRST (not the ONLY) software company to actually behave as a business, instead of a not-for-profit concern. To this day, there are very few software companies that really understand the time-to-market priority. The best technology almost NEVER is the market leader. The first to market, with the best understanding of what the customer will buy (not what they NEED) will be the victor.
Customers and developers can be angry for good reason, but none of those reasons are good enough to convince Microsoft to not put their advantages to work against the competition.
I would not worry now, as Microsoft is a mere shell of what we were when we were running wild. It cant hurt anyone these days.
I think your reading comprehension could stand some improvement. How you got such an idiotic conclusion from my comments is beyond me. I think you need new medication, pal.
Tim Russert was NOT a White House Staffer, he worked for Speaker Tip O'Neill (Democrat) and Senator Patrick Moynahan (Democrat) and Russert himself was a proud liberal, in the old tradition of Scoop Jackson, not a reactionary nutjob like that gay(not that theres anything wrong with that) fool Keith Olberman.
From CNBC: Russert's physician, Michael Newman, said cholesterol plaque ruptured in an artery, causing sudden coronary thrombosis.
Russert had earlier been diagnosed with asymptomatic coronary artery disease, but it was well-controlled with medication and exercise, and he had performed well on a stress test in late April, Newman said. An autopsy revealed that he also had an enlarged heart, Newman said.
This is what all that Omega3 fish oil is supposed to prevent? Time to go kill a salmon!
Tim Russert flew home from Italy just last evening.
I remember reading about a young woman (25) who died after getting off a flight to Australia fron a DVT blood clot. She apparently didnt leave her seat for the whole 13 hour flight.
Since I fly a lot, I make sure that on flights longer than an hour or two, I get up and walk the length of the airplane, just to keep the circulation going.
Russert, being overweight, would be prime for a DVT Heart Attack. One little clot, it breaks loose, blocks a blood vessel in the heart, and boom, you die.
I would not be surprised that this happened to Russert. Shame, he was as fair as a liberal gets. I'm not trolling, either. I liked him.
Often, we are brought it along with another organization, to collaborate on a given solution. To date, we have compared favorably with the competition in terms of production and quality, often resulting in our becoming sole-source for ongoing work.
A recent example would be only a few weeks ago when the CEO of one of our client companies came back to his office around 9pm on a Friday evening, while my team present and was hard at it, while additional coders from another company knocked off to attend the opening night for Iron Man. (yeah, they tattled, its business)
The point was, that a code review was due the following Monday, and we were on time and ahead of schedule, while the other guys were way behind. When word got back to the boss, we were asked to replace the other team with more of our own people.
That project wrapped last week with us awarded another project, larger than the first. I personally bought every member(6) of that team a new Blu-Ray player just to thank them for their hard work, and for making us look good. We got a new great reference account, which will bring more and more business down the road.
When I say my guys will eat your lunch, its because my guys are great, and more talented than I ever was. I make sure they know it, and that I appreciate their work ethic. If I had just 10 more of them, we could go national. What I wrote earlier was relevant for that reason, I wasn't talking about pre-bid, but post-bid.
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But, once someone is up to speed in MOSS, they can write their ticket nationwide, leaving their former employer to pound sand, having just put out thousands in training fees.
You dont have to be very high up in a corporation, just have a marketable skill, and you can just bail.
This is a ruling that could seriously come back to haunt.
A Hawaiian vacation, bitches!
McCain put out a devastating ad today, quoting only famous Democrats saying good things about him.
Come November, it will probably be McCain taking the oath, and Democrats again, yelling SHENANIGANS from the bleachers.
Obviously there is much we don't agree upon, so I wont go back into that, but I would ask you to research the fact that when you combine Federal, State and local government taxes on Gasoline in America, because you will discover that their take rivals and in some cases exceeds oil company profits. Start in California, with its 43 different blends of gasoline, and its laws restricting the importation of fuel from surrounding states.
As someone with insane medical expenses of my own, I draw the line in arguing with persons trying to keep their head above water while battling illness at the same time.
Good luck and stay well, dude.
You should set up a small ISA Server lab, and use its monitoring tools to tell you EXACTLY what the apps you are testing are doing, when they are doing it, and from where.
Another advantage of ISA, is that you can control apps via Active Directory. Combine that with packet inspection, and you have something where you can know the exact behavior of an app on your network. One DC, one ISA box and a couple of workstations (XP and Vista) and you can learn whatever you want to know about what an application is up to, when and where.
I repeat, even if you dont think ISA is secure (it is when done right) its the monitoring tools and the integration with AD that are what you need to get the job done.
Its so amazing how some folks think Bush is an idiot, while at the same time think he is able to control everything so completely. (Here comes the figurehead argument, just watch)
Oil prices are high due primarily to Speculators who have bid up the market price, in anticipation of domestic supply shortages. The mere mention of offshore drilling off our coasts caused speculators to drop the barrel price by $10 in ONE DAY.
Everyone blames oil companies for their record profits, when they should be watching profit MARGINS, which have remained static for the past decade for the majors like Exxon and others.
I'm sorry for your plight, but you make it worse on yourself by not educating yourself on issues upon which you choose to comment.
Fuel is NOT expensive, except in relation to what you are USED to paying. Spend a day in Italy, and you would LOVE what gasoline costs back here in America.
Lastly, my poor, uniformed buddy;.... Gas prices have NOTHING to do which bank failures, nothing whatsoever. Banks fail when people cannot repay their loans, which is what happens when banks make bad loans to unqualified people, which happens when the federal government under Bill Clinton ORDERS banks to do just that, which is what created the Mortgage Brokerage industry, and the proceeding Real Estate bubble.
Flame away, I've got Karma to burn, baby!
The only problem is that Salmon fishing has been banned this year from California to Washington state, making the cost of Salmon similar to a monthly mortgage payment.
Tilapia is a trash fish, with the wrong Omega nutrient balance, proven bad for human consumption, but unfortunately, cheap enough for the masses. I watched some show on the BBC about Chicken farming a few years ago, and have not touched a Chicken since then. Nasty!
I like a Steak just seared on the outside, bloody throughout, (Black and Blue).
Beef = Not Pure. Tastes amazing, extremely high market share, everyone knows what it is, loved by a very large majority.
Now sure, you can find some folks who love Tofu, clean arteries, low cholesterol, etc.
Most people would rather live 50 years on Porterhouse steaks, than 150 years on Tofu.
Put some closed source in it, man! Call it Salmonella code, if ya want, but mix it up and make it taste better!
Its all about the taste.
Jeri Ryan was married to a former shoo-in for the U.S. Senate out of Illinois; a man who liked to show off his wife's amazing body at swingers clubs. She divorced him over it, and had their records sealed, but his original Senate opponent (Obama) filed suit to have the records opened. When the records were made public, Mr. Ryan, who was leading Obama in the polls by like, 40 points, was forced to drop out of the race.
The republicans substituted that freak Alan Keyes, and Obama beat him easily.
So, were it not for the extreme hotness of Jeri Ryan, and her ex-husband forcing her into swinging, Obama would have never been a Senator, and not in a position to be President today.
Democrats should be sending Jeri Ryan flowers or somethin....
Finally, find me ONE product that does all the things that MOSS does, especially when combined with Office 2007. The adoption rate for MOSS is tremendous, because it solves so many business problems right out of the box, that all the custom code needed to make earlier versions productive is 90% unnecessary.
I'm glad you think Excel and Visual Studio are "decent"; otherwise, I would call you a complete fool.
Cheers.
To suggest that "Microsoft is failing at everything they do" is just ridiculous. Microsoft is concerned about the generation of DOLLARS. Their rules are about making MONEY. In that sense, they are spectacularly successful at what they do, whether you or I agree with their motivation, ethics or whatever.
Its like trying to say that China sucks because they are not a Democracy. Sure, they may suck indeed to you and me, but to China, they are doing just fine.
Stallman is a horrible spokesperson, in the sense that he allows himself through his own words to be defined as a kook, allowing his goals to be written of as the rantings of a madman.
Way to insure that people continue to believe (in numbers greater than anyone wants to admit) that the whole FOSS thang is nothing but an expression of Socialism.
Do us all a favor, Stallman? The next time you want to go off half-cocked like that, you stuff your favorite Che Guevera t-shirt in your mouth and bite down until the thought goes away?
Bitch!
Sales people should NOT lie, but they can sometimes explain deficiencies in a more artful way, and avoid a blown sale. That is all I was saying.
I WAS the tech dude for most of my career, but now that I own the business, I'm at the other end of the table doing the sales thing, but with integrity. You never want to say something to get kicked out of the building, before you have a chance to propose your value proposition. A bad tech will do that to you when you least expect it. I know. I've been that guy, and I learned the hard way.
More potential sales have been destroyed by techies talking too much in a meeting with prospective clients than empty beer bottles in Ireland.
Example:
Sales guy-"I'm telling you, Lotus Notes can do that right now, and in addition it can-.............."
Technical dude-"Well, yeah, but not really, its kind of a hack, but we hope in the next release to tighten that up, we were in a ru-.........."
Client-"Thanks for coming, guys! You need your parking validated?"
But, I can see how you might still think that a bad thing if you worked for Lotus or Borland. But then, those guys NEVER let the marketing dweebs near their product groups, right?
It showed.
OEM Vendors are indeed managed via the marketing department, which negotiates those contracts. Marketing at Microsoft is not limited to the development of the sales proposition for the various products, but is responsible for all aspects of the public product image, even if through vendor-related dealing. Its called Channel Marketing.
We had it good, because we were the FIRST (not the ONLY) software company to actually behave as a business, instead of a not-for-profit concern. To this day, there are very few software companies that really understand the time-to-market priority. The best technology almost NEVER is the market leader. The first to market, with the best understanding of what the customer will buy (not what they NEED) will be the victor.
Customers and developers can be angry for good reason, but none of those reasons are good enough to convince Microsoft to not put their advantages to work against the competition.
I would not worry now, as Microsoft is a mere shell of what we were when we were running wild. It cant hurt anyone these days.
I think your reading comprehension could stand some improvement. How you got such an idiotic conclusion from my comments is beyond me. I think you need new medication, pal.
Get your facts straight.
Russert had earlier been diagnosed with asymptomatic coronary artery disease, but it was well-controlled with medication and exercise, and he had performed well on a stress test in late April, Newman said. An autopsy revealed that he also had an enlarged heart, Newman said.
This is what all that Omega3 fish oil is supposed to prevent? Time to go kill a salmon!
Funny you should mention that seeing as the news reported tonight that Obama's brother in Africa confirmed that "Barry" grew up a Muslim.
If I am not mistaken, DVT also killed NBC reporter David Bloom, who sat in an APC in Iraq for 2-3 days before the blood clot got him.
I remember reading about a young woman (25) who died after getting off a flight to Australia fron a DVT blood clot. She apparently didnt leave her seat for the whole 13 hour flight.
Since I fly a lot, I make sure that on flights longer than an hour or two, I get up and walk the length of the airplane, just to keep the circulation going.
Russert, being overweight, would be prime for a DVT Heart Attack. One little clot, it breaks loose, blocks a blood vessel in the heart, and boom, you die.
I would not be surprised that this happened to Russert. Shame, he was as fair as a liberal gets. I'm not trolling, either. I liked him.
You want to say the code was mediocre? Fine. We had tight schedules and we met them. Sue us. (Oh, wait....)
We made up for it with the best marketing and sales divisions ever created. Yeah, I know, but it MATTERS.
No technology, no matter how great, sells itself.
It has already been proven however, that you can sell people ROCKS, and Chia Pets, and even LOTUS NOTES, if you try hard enough.
A recent example would be only a few weeks ago when the CEO of one of our client companies came back to his office around 9pm on a Friday evening, while my team present and was hard at it, while additional coders from another company knocked off to attend the opening night for Iron Man. (yeah, they tattled, its business)
The point was, that a code review was due the following Monday, and we were on time and ahead of schedule, while the other guys were way behind. When word got back to the boss, we were asked to replace the other team with more of our own people.
That project wrapped last week with us awarded another project, larger than the first. I personally bought every member(6) of that team a new Blu-Ray player just to thank them for their hard work, and for making us look good. We got a new great reference account, which will bring more and more business down the road.
When I say my guys will eat your lunch, its because my guys are great, and more talented than I ever was. I make sure they know it, and that I appreciate their work ethic. If I had just 10 more of them, we could go national. What I wrote earlier was relevant for that reason, I wasn't talking about pre-bid, but post-bid.
Enough of this thread, its Friday, baby!