I can assure you that 99% of the time the Superdome is used for research and has nothing to do with benchmarks. Dr. Dietz clusters spend 99% of there time calculating ways to make his clusters faster.
For the people that moded my post "flamebate" you
should
check up on you facts.
I am not for AMD or Intel but I am telling you
what technically
is true.
If you think I am full of pooh then look at the
processor
maps and do a little reading and then you might have a better argument
than how
many FPS you can get on commander keen!
Do you know what Hyperthreading is ?
Due to the scheduling problems in the P4 attributed to small prefetch
instructions the P4 was divided up into 2 virtual processors.
What this means is that if you have a single process running it is only
getting
half if the resources.
Hyperthreading cuts your CPU in half and if you are running many
threads you
can get a performance improvement on a P4.
If you are running a single process you will get worse performance.
The reason that the AMD chip is so much higher is
that it is
harder to make and THAT much technically better that the Intel
processor.
AMD
As many of you know AMD has decided to toss the old memory access
system and
access main memory directly from the processor.
This allows AMD to have a true dual core chip sharing memory resources
with on
chip Core-to-Core communication.
The real benefit is the direct memory access and on chip core-to-core
communication.
Intel
The Intel dual core chip is as big of a marketing trick as hyper
threading.
Intel took to generic P4 processors ground off the edges
and placed
them on a single die. I am not making this up!! this means that
any
communication processor to processor has to actual touch the system bus.
If you know anything about the way processors work you know memory
management
for SMP machines is not easy, but imagine trying to manage
a shared cache and shared main memory when the only core-to-core
communication
has to hit the system bus!
AMD did something very right but needs to bring the price down to ever
get any
reward.
Before anyone gets in a war about AMD kicking Intel down just recall
the Intel marketing
budget is more that the entire operation capitol of AMD.
The University of Kentucky has replaced a
few Sun Labs with OSX only to build another
Sun Lab or other WS Lab... this is not news.
It only says that Sun or vendor X is not giving away machines
Not many schools are going to pay market value for a lab full of Sun workstations.
Give me the choice between a lab of loaded Dell/Linux boxes or loaded Sun WS for the same price I am goin Sun all day
That is true as long as you do not want it to act like a pbx connected to PSTN. You would have to have another party line vontage to handle your PSTN traffic.
You are not going to be part of the telco...
You will only have a PBX inside your house.
If you are not going to get a PRI/T1 then you can not even utilize many of the things a PBX can do. For anyone using POTS lines this is more like you linksys setup than a cisco 7500 running BGP routing traffic through the internet.
I setup a nice h.323 to pbx gate way a while back
on
Build Your Own PBX
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· Score: 1
One of the first things you learn in microprocessor design is
how to efficiently balance machine instructions vs. clock cycles to set your
clock speed. To determine maximum clock speed you evaluate the longest path
and highest possible propagation for an instruction based on what logical
gates, adders, etc. the processor could use in an instruction. The designers make
sure the processor can not physically end a clock cycle before the logic has
been propagated. The more you overclock a processor the more you run the risk
of getting bad data or in the case where error checking is in place the
instruction will continue to process until it get the correct value drastically
multiplying the number of clock cycles it should take to execute. Overclocking
a white box AMD/Intel running XP/*nix might get you a few more fps encoding
Xvids but for anything of a critical nature overclocking is technically a very
bad idea. Why would you take an environment like Sun/Sparc or Apple/OSX where
hardware and software are matched for stability and purposely give it a reason
to fail?
I guess this bastard is all for the export of US crypto technology to terrorist states. And I am sure he was outraged by the US export ban on playstations 2 to prevent them to be used as a Linux clusters for whepon research my Iraq and other terrorist states!!
I did not personally attack you. I did not make any remarks other than your opinion was not logical. You can take you little message and shove it up you ass.. Is this the board for starving children or is it NEWS FOR NERDS!! get you head strait shit box..and fuck off.. Who is the idiot? The idiot or the one who messages them?
P.S. I bet you are a commie bitch
because no one is paid != "spirit" of the hobbyist urge
What the hell are you talking about.... How many hobbyiet are payed to make things work?? That is why it is a hobby not a pro!! Try netbsd..it will run on anything including your toster!! that is the hobbiest spirit
AH.. I am not sure what it is but the arrogance comes AFTER using a BSD for a while... keep working at it and you will get there if you are as smart as me;)
If you will invest a little time in working with freebsd you can make it do almost anything any other OS can do...often time more stable and straight foward. Core development is tightly controlled so when you upgrade to stable you know the box is going to live after rebuild and the ports system keeps your packages up-to-date with the single command "portupgrade" I love the bsd's for their ease of config NOT ease of initial install.
As long as Mozilla keep its stable release as stable as Mozilla 1.3 I will have no reason to use
anything else.. Now if we can just get plugins for all OS and ARCH
codeman
The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking
large glasses of whiskey I don't know.
Nothing like going to a pub and having a few pints too many!!!
Codeman
READ THE TITLE DIP SHIT MOD!!
on
Palmtop NetBSD
·
· Score: -1, Troll
How the fuck is this modded of topic?
If you shit head moderators would read the fucking title of the article you would see that this device RUNS Netbsd and it is of the same arch as the titled device!!!!
Yet I go further and give you a place to get the preinstalled device then give you a site that one is running..
Fuck you mods!!! Get you head out of your asses!!!
In my case a 256cf and NetBSD took my IBM z50 from a completely unsupported and worthless POS running on chip WinCE 2.11 to a fully functional Unix laptop that will run for 16hours on one battery.
I can run X11 native and remote, dillo, wardriving tools, and apache.
Slashdot Mirror
I can assure you that 99% of the time the Superdome is used for research and has nothing to do with benchmarks. Dr. Dietz clusters spend 99% of there time calculating ways to make his clusters faster.
For the people that moded my post "flamebate" you should check up on you facts.
I am not for AMD or Intel but I am telling you what technically is true.
If you think I am full of pooh then look at the processor maps and do a little reading and then you might have a better argument than how many FPS you can get on commander keen!
Do you know what Hyperthreading is ?
Due to the scheduling problems in the P4 attributed to small prefetch instructions the P4 was divided up into 2 virtual processors.
What this means is that if you have a single process running it is only getting half if the resources.
Hyperthreading cuts your CPU in half and if you are running many threads you can get a performance improvement on a P4.
If you are running a single process you will get worse performance.
So if you don't know what is what then STFU.
The reason that the AMD chip is so much higher is that it is harder to make and THAT much technically better that the Intel processor.
AMD
As many of you know AMD has decided to toss the old memory access system and access main memory directly from the processor.
This allows AMD to have a true dual core chip sharing memory resources with on chip Core-to-Core communication.
The real benefit is the direct memory access and on chip core-to-core communication.
Intel
The Intel dual core chip is as big of a marketing trick as hyper threading. Intel took to generic P4 processors ground off the edges and placed
them on a single die. I am not making this up!! this means that any communication processor to processor has to actual touch the system bus.
If you know anything about the way processors work you know memory management for SMP machines is not easy, but imagine trying to manage
a shared cache and shared main memory when the only core-to-core communication has to hit the system bus!
AMD did something very right but needs to bring the price down to ever get any reward.
Before anyone gets in a war about AMD kicking Intel down just recall the Intel marketing budget is more that the entire operation capitol of AMD.
Codeman
The University of Kentucky has replaced a few Sun Labs with OSX only to build another
Sun Lab or other WS Lab... this is not news. It only says that Sun or vendor X is not giving away machines
Not many schools are going to pay market value for a lab full of Sun workstations.
Give me the choice between a lab of loaded Dell/Linux boxes or loaded Sun WS
for the same price I am goin Sun all day
That is true as long as you do not want it to act like a pbx connected to PSTN. You would have to have another party line vontage to handle your PSTN traffic.
You are not going to be part of the telco...
You will only have a PBX inside your house.
If you are not going to get a PRI/T1 then you can not even utilize many of the things a PBX can do.
For anyone using POTS lines this is more like you linksys setup than a cisco 7500 running BGP routing traffic through the internet.
http://www.spectechnologies.net/projects/pbx/index .html
One of the first things you learn in microprocessor design is how to efficiently balance machine instructions vs. clock cycles to set your clock speed. To determine maximum clock speed you evaluate the longest path and highest possible propagation for an instruction based on what logical gates, adders, etc. the processor could use in an instruction. The designers make sure the processor can not physically end a clock cycle before the logic has been propagated. The more you overclock a processor the more you run the risk of getting bad data or in the case where error checking is in place the instruction will continue to process until it get the correct value drastically multiplying the number of clock cycles it should take to execute. Overclocking a white box AMD/Intel running XP/*nix might get you a few more fps encoding Xvids but for anything of a critical nature overclocking is technically a very bad idea. Why would you take an environment like Sun/Sparc or Apple/OSX where hardware and software are matched for stability and purposely give it a reason to fail?
P.S. You can cook you proc to!
Codeman
Two years ago was on a project using CT images to virtually reconstruct jaw and skull
parts from the other side of the head then prototype the parts using a
plastic prototype printer. When the surgeons had a prototype jaw they could construct
the metal supports before surgery drastically cutting down on OR time. The metal supports
were then molded into silica glass which the bone then grew around.
Codeman
Did anyone notice that on the linked sites that the only people taking money from hollywood were deamoncrats?
try using VI
I guess this bastard is all for the export of US crypto technology to terrorist states. And I am sure he was outraged by the US export ban on playstations 2 to prevent them to be used as a Linux clusters for whepon research my Iraq and other terrorist states!!
What a fucking jerkoff
I use OPENBSD for any type of routing http://www.republicvoices.com
I did not personally attack you. I did not make any remarks other than your opinion was not logical. You can take you little message and shove it up you ass.. Is this the board for starving children or is it NEWS FOR NERDS!! get you head strait shit box..and fuck off.. Who is the idiot? The idiot or the one who messages them? P.S. I bet you are a commie bitch
because no one is paid != "spirit" of the hobbyist urge What the hell are you talking about.... How many hobbyiet are payed to make things work?? That is why it is a hobby not a pro!! Try netbsd..it will run on anything including your toster!! that is the hobbiest spirit
AH.. I am not sure what it is but the arrogance comes AFTER using a BSD for a while... keep working at it and you will get there if you are as smart as me ;)
If you will invest a little time in working with freebsd you can make it do almost anything any other OS can do...often time more stable and straight foward. Core development is tightly controlled so when you upgrade to stable you know the box is going to live after rebuild and the ports system keeps your packages up-to-date with the single command "portupgrade" I love the bsd's for their ease of config NOT ease of initial install.
I work @ UK and the students used were on a pure voluntary basis
Is there any thing that bell labs will not bring to us geeks? Think about it they have done alot..
As long as Mozilla keep its stable release as stable as Mozilla 1.3 I will have no reason to use
anything else.. Now if we can just get plugins for all OS and ARCH
codeman
The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore.
True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking
large glasses of whiskey I don't know.
-P.J.O'Rourke(1989)
You Stupid bastard!! GO back to you leftist bookshop and shut the fuck up
Nothing like going to a pub and having a few pints too many!!! Codeman
How the fuck is this modded of topic?
If you shit head moderators would read the fucking title of the article you would see that this device RUNS Netbsd and it is of the same arch as the titled device!!!!
Yet I go further and give you a place to get the preinstalled device then give you a site that one is running..
Fuck you mods!!! Get you head out of your asses!!!
In my case a 256cf and NetBSD took my IBM z50 from a completely unsupported and worthless POS running on chip WinCE 2.11 to a fully functional Unix laptop that will run for 16hours on one battery.
I can run X11 native and remote, dillo, wardriving tools, and apache.