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Nanotube Applications Grow And Grow

HobbySpacer writes "Carbon nanotubes are starting to transition from interesting laboratory curiosities into interesting technological applications. These apps include non-volatile RAM, flat screen displays, high strength fabrics, and smart skin for structures in aerospace and elsewhere. Perhaps if The Graduate was being made today, the one word for Benjamin Braddock's future would not be "plastics" but "nanotubes"."

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  1. carBIN? by bluethundr · · Score: 0, Troll

    Carbin nanotubes are starting to transition from interesting laboratory curiosities into interesting technological applications.

    [nerdstylin']Ahem. excUUUUUSe me. I believe that's supposed to be carBON not car/usr/bin.[/nerdstylin']...

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  2. Does this mean by earthforce_1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The space elevator could do double duty as the worlds longest (and thinnest) supercomputer?

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    1. Re:Does this mean by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Thinnest? Doubtly so. 15 or so meters thick by the 0g height, minimu, to carry its own weight plus 1t payload using nanotubes.

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    2. Re:Does this mean by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 2, Funny

      The space elevator could do double duty as the worlds longest (and thinnest) supercomputer?


      I'm going to regret this, but...

      ...imagine a Beowulf Shaeffer cluster of these.

    3. Re:Does this mean by ejsgid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Back when SCO actually was Caldera, they used to give us employees new T-shirts every week or so, until we basically had a "Caldera" wardrobe, and a "not-approved for office use" wardrobe. A lot of these shirts had big slogans on them like "Caldera: Open Internet, Open Access to Source". I'd like to march right in there wearing one of those now. I shudder to think that I ever worked for those sleazebags. At least the shirts come in handy when I had to change my oil this morning.

  3. More relevant material by mao+che+minh · · Score: 5, Informative
    NASA also has a page for it's nanotube developments at Johnson Space Center. The NSF is part of the National Nanotechnology Initiative, and has it's own page as well.

    And as far as commercial entities go, don't forget IBM's find back in September of 2002, which was making nanotubes with carbon instead of metal.

    1. Re:More relevant material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No, CARBON NANOTUBES are made of carbon. "Nanotube" is a generic term.

      And, for your information, EVERYTHING on that scale is "made of metal". In addition, depending on the chiral nature of your carbon nanotube they will act as metallic conductors, or semiconductors.

      Eat your own shit, asshole.

    2. Re:More relevant material by jscribner · · Score: 2, Informative

      IBM's had a whole bunch of releases on Carbon Nanotubes, most recently there was the one about a solid-state light emitter, and in may 2002 we made CNT transistors that out performed the Si ones.

      The IBM releases/etc on Carbon Nanotubes can all be found here.

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    3. Re:More relevant material by dissy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > WTF are you on mate? Nanotubes are made of carbon, not of metal

      I believe what he is referring to, quoted from the link he posted in that same comment:

      "We have shown that there are ways of making single-walled nanotubes without the use of metals," Avouris said.
      (Check the link, 2nd non-bold paragraph down)

      Also, compare your reply (of carbon, not of metal)
      It appears you just made that up.

      The parents post says:
      "And as far as commercial entities go, don't forget IBM's find back in September of 2002, which was making nanotubes with carbon instead of metal."

      With.. Not of.. With metal.

      The parent posters argument was correct.
      Your 'correction' was flawed, even if correct.

      Hopefully the moderators wont be as hard on you for being wrong as you were on the parent poster even though he was not wrong at all :)

    4. Re:More relevant material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. You flame someone, you by God better be right.

    5. Re:More relevant material by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the discrepency between the usage of the word "nanotube." A nanotube is just a very small tube, it can be made out of anything. The poster obviously has "carbon nanotube" ensconced in his head, and thus makes an ass out of himself.

      I can't wait till they make a nanotube out of snake-oil, that way the NRAM claims might be justified. ;-)

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    6. Re:More relevant material by budgenator · · Score: 1

      Are the Boron Nitride nanotubes made of carbon too?

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    7. Re:More relevant material by Espressoman · · Score: 1

      I wonder how long you guys are going to go on before you actually read the article linked to. They are talking about using silicon catalyst instead of metal catalyst in the carbon nanotube fabrication process.

    8. Re:More relevant material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Nanotubes are made of carbon, not of metal
      If you think you're so smart, then tell me: what the tubegirl is made of?

  4. Incredible what you can do with carbon! by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's next? jewelry? pencils? life?

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    1. Re:Incredible what you can do with carbon! by cshark · · Score: 1, Informative

      Could be. But there could be some serious safety problems with nanites if they aren't addressed and worked with now. The bright side is that none of these problems would be hard to solve. I think something like proximity detectors could solve much of it. Other than that, I think this could be a groovy technology with benefits that really help mankind. Just a thought.

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    2. Re:Incredible what you can do with carbon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you dolt. Life, jewelry (diamonds..) and pencils (graphite...) are ALREADY made with carbon. You are talking about serious safety problems with things that already exist and give us no trouble. (In fact, with ourselves).

    3. Re:Incredible what you can do with carbon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the poster is joking that humans, in their relentless quest for more jewelry and pencils are the most destructive force on this planet. But this problem is not insurmountable.

    4. Re:Incredible what you can do with carbon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dogs?



      H OH -> Woof!
      C=C
      HH HH



      Damn! Ascii art isn't working here...

  5. nobody mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    fishing rods.. what about fishing rods ?!

    1. Re:nobody mentioned by badman99 · · Score: 0

      Hmmm wounder what type of rod you would use to catch a mermaide ?

  6. Wow! by RaZ0r · · Score: 1

    Will they be able to create wearable skin displays to make me invisible?

    Ha, you can't see me now!!!

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    1. Re:Wow! by bluethundr · · Score: 1, Informative

      Will they be able to create wearable skin displays to make me invisible?

      Ha, you can't see me now!!!


      Is that a joke? If I didn't know any better I could've thought you were being serious.

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    2. Re:Wow! by takotech · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Superman is flying around Metropolis one day and he notices Wonder Woman sun bathing nude on the top of a building. Not one to let opportunity pass him by he thinks to himself: what the hell, I'm Superman. I can get in and out of there super fast and she'll never know what hit her. So he does just that. Flies down there, has his way with Wonder Woman, and flies away smirking.

      Wonder Woman: What the hell was that?!?

      Invisible Man: Don't know but my ass is sure sore.

    3. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about wearable skin displays to make me look like someone else? You could store several profiles (ha!) in memory, and rotate them randomly, like xscreensaver. One minute you're Keanu Reeves, the next you're Harvey Keitel.

    4. Re:Wow! by Kickstart70 · · Score: 1

      "Perhaps you should put some clothes on if you are going to keep fighting crime today."

  7. carbin[e] nanotubes? by *weasel · · Score: 5, Funny

    what on earth would you do with a carbine rifle that small?

    i guess even nanites are set to participate in the arms race.

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    1. Re:carbin[e] nanotubes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Miniature rifles don't kill nanites, nanites kill nanites.

      Well, and accidental sneezes.

    2. Re:carbin[e] nanotubes? by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder if you could use nanotubes and buckyballs to make very small peashooters?

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    3. Re:carbin[e] nanotubes? by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 1

      You can find heavy carbon composite rifle barrels for for many tactical (and some hunting) rifles. The Rem. Model 700 VS and a few other 700s can be had with synthetic barrels (and stocks). I've heard they kick like crazy due to the lower weight of the barrel (lighter rifles tend to do that, heavy rifle absorb some of the impact so your shoulder doesnt have to). They should be just as accurate (more?) and durable as their steel counterparts. I use carbon fiber arrows sometimes with my compound bow, those things are very cool. Same as a composite barrel, if you did manage to damage it enough, it would explode into tiny splinters when you tried to fire/release it.

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    4. Re:carbin[e] nanotubes? by Tim+Doran · · Score: 1

      heavy rifle absorb some of the impact so your shoulder doesnt have to

      [pedantic]

      The heavier rifle doesn't actually *absorb* more energy, it accelerates more slowly due to its increased mass. Comes across as a smaller kick.

      Kinda like a bigger car in an accident - the force is equal and opposite, but the bigger car changes velocity more slowly, reducing the delta vee on occupants.

      Sorry.

      [/pedantic]

    5. Re:carbin[e] nanotubes? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      " what on earth would you do with a carbine rifle that small?i guess even nanites are set to participate in the arms race."

      Well.....remember that episode of the Simpsons where Lisa grows a sentient civilization from a tooth in a petri dish full of coke? They gotta use SOMETHING to defend against Bart.

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    6. Re:carbin[e] nanotubes? by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 1

      Thanks for breaking it down for us simpler folk. Thats what I meant to say, really..

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  8. No, no no! by SiMac · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The whole point of the "plastics" line was that plastics represent the artificiality of adult life. If nanotubes are made of carbon, then they're not artificial enough!

    1. Re:No, no no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      So hydrocarbons are artificial?

    2. Re:No, no no! by Jerf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole point of the "plastics" line was that plastics represent the artificiality of adult life. If nanotubes are made of carbon, then they're not artificial enough!

      Uh, what do you think plastic is made out of? The core of what most people think of as plastic (as opposed to the technical definition which focuses on properties rather then composition) is based on a chain of hydrocarbons, with some impurities.

      In fact, what most people call "plastic" are closer to "natural" things then nanotubes; no "natural" lifeform consists of pure carbon, so a carbon + hydrogen mix is closer.

      So, personally, I'd say (-1, Tried For Humor But Failed) on your post. >:-P

      And remember, plastics are made out of all-natural atoms, so ignore the losers who think natural==good, and use plastic. This message not brought to you by the American Plastics Council, but my wallet wishes it was.

    3. Re:No, no no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up (+1, Internet Pedant)

    4. Re:No, no no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Carbon alone can be found in nature (ash, diamonds, etc.) The polymers in plastic cannot be.

    5. Re:No, no no! by Blain · · Score: 1

      The "plastics" line was also a reference to the movie "It's a Wonderful Life," from the scene where George and Mary are sharing the phone while talking to "Hee-Haw" Sam Wainwright (who not incidentally got rather rich on his plastics, while George was stuck at the Building and Loan).

      Another perhaps little known reference to that film were the Sesame Street characters named after Bert the cop and Ernie the cab-driver. /me will spew trivia for food.

  9. Crazy application of nano's by Zanek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What happens when someone starts to create viruses with these Nanotubes ? It'll be a brave new world then :-P

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    1. Re:Crazy application of nano's by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      YOUCH! Imagine a pack of those crawling around your neck, pulling a nanotube around it without you even knowing and then cutting your throat and generally your head off! Beats all, Ebola, HIV, SARS and BSE! That would be one curious viral "disease"!

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    2. Re:Crazy application of nano's by Taldo · · Score: 1
      Which your own nano-enhanced immune system, plus likely also one in the environment you're in, would immediately destroy.

      The best (and arguably only) defense against offensive nanotech, is defensive nanotech.

      Fortunately, reasearchers realize this.... and the 'good guys' have been thinking about this for quite a bit longer than the 'bad guys' have.

    3. Re:Crazy application of nano's by Richthofen80 · · Score: 1

      Probably the same thing that happens when people have the power to create real viruses. not much.

      Fearmongering with open-ended questions does nothing to further an intellectual arguement.

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    4. Re:Crazy application of nano's by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age dealt with tons of nanotech applications. I thought it was fantastically creative, and highly plausible for the most part. I can't recall if it touched on actual viruses or not, but I do recall the 'drummers,' people with nanotubes in their bloodstream who processed information through orgies.


      Being a geek would be pretty groovy then, eh?

  10. Better Flat Screens by nbarr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For me, the best is to come in LCD screens. Faster and cheaper LCD screens, and with better image quality. Now, thats what I call good news.

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    1. Re:Better Flat Screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but i just bought an lcd screen :(

    2. Re:Better Flat Screens by Lispy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just one? Move it and buy another.

      The more you push the market the sooner we will see our carbon based kickass screens on the shelfs...so get out and do your duty as a consumer:
      create demand! ;-)

    3. Re:Better Flat Screens by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 1

      Faster cheaper LCD screens? Thats the best think to come? What about disks on a chip? Adaptive camo? Armored T-shirts? Hypersonic travel? Think of the applications for robotics! Nanomuscle?

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    4. Re:Better Flat Screens by smartalix · · Score: 1

      Actually, field-emissive displays would use this technology, not LCDs. Nanotubes make them more cost-effective and easier to fabricate since they replace the spindt-tip emitters that wer difficult to fabricate cheaply in large arrays. Using nanotubes as emitters significantly increases the device efficiency while reducung fabrication cost. Motorola's big advance in their application was getting them to grow inthe right spots on the display substrate.

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    5. Re:Better Flat Screens by nounderscores · · Score: 1

      Nobody has ever been killed by a cheap flat panel display screen. At least if they have, the screen had either failed, or was being used contrary to its design.

  11. All you have to do is.... by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 1
    Will they be able to create wearable skin displays to make me invisible?

    Close your eyes and then no one will be able see you.

  12. Carbin? Deer Slaishdought eddyterrs... by HardcoreGamer · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... plllez eddyt obveeus spalyng erurrz. Carbon :)

    1. Re:Carbin? Deer Slaishdought eddyterrs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here. The editors spell like that too.

  13. Idiot moderators! by Thud457 · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    "I've got one word for you -- PLASTICS!"

    This carbon nanotube technology is a flash in the pan. People who really know where it's at are into methane micro-lasers. Is there anything you can't do with those?!!

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    1. Re:Idiot moderators! by spuke4000 · · Score: 1

      No, no, no. Not methane micro-lasers.

      Nitro-powered, monkey navigated rocket sleds, there's the future.

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  14. Scientific American articles on nanotubes by Twid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SciAm has run several articles on nanotubes over the years, several are indexed here, along with more general nanotech articles:

    http://www.sciam.com/nanotech_directory.cfm

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  15. Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's all fine and dandy, but a bullet proof piece of clothing 'as light as a t-shirt' wouldn't so squat. Kevlar is a pretty light material too, the reason bullet proof vests are so heavy is because of the large impact absorbing plates. Without some impact absorbance, the bullet would just end up dragging a whole bunch of cloth into the gaping hole in your chest. You have to have something to absorb the kinetic energy; and a t-shirt just doesn't cut it.

    1. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by BillFarber · · Score: 4, Funny

      This isn't anywhere near my field, but it seems that if the material were stiff enough, then it wouldn't have to be heavy. By being stiff, the kinetic energy would be widely distributed. Of course, being stiff would defeat the purpose of being a t-shirt, though maybe you could use it to make a bullet-proof condom!

    2. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Wameku · · Score: 1

      Yeah but the Kevlar is also pretty heavy. Any weight reduction is better than none at all.

      OF course, Being a ninja, I dont require such barbaric methods of avoiding exit wounds.

      *zip!*

      See, I'll bet you didnt even see me move to the bottom of this post!

    3. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 4, Funny

      *cough cough* .. I can't speak for all guys, but I'm willing to bet most don't want a condom all that 'stiff' either. That job's supposed to be provided by something else ;)

    4. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by forgetmenot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Exactly! I wish someone would explain that to Tolkien, or perhaps Peter Jackson too! I don't care how hard mithril is, if it's flexible and light enough to wear hidden under your clothes then it's flexible and light enough to be forced (without tearing either) into a gaping hole in your chest when an 18 foot cave troll skewers you full force with a spear. You can't tell me there was enough impact absorbancy in Frodo's shirt to dissipate the energy from that impact enough so as to prevent chronic pierced lung syndrome.

      Am I still on topic? Ummm... "Mithril Nanotubes". (There that should fix it.)

    5. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      BEEP wrong. The plates are only to reinforce target areas, like the heart.
      The kevlar itself absorbs the kinetic energy of the bullet. When you fire the bullet into the vest, the layers rub against each other and tear, dissapating the energy in the form of heat.
      And, they have come a long way with regular bullet proof vests. They now weight as little as 1 lb.

    6. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Neil+Watson · · Score: 1

      If the material were stiff, how useful would it be as as wearable armour? There are two parts to an armoured vest: the resistent fabic (kevlar) and the absorbing plate. Which of these will carbon nanotubes replace?

    7. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, good chain mail can stop a spear.
      Chain mail and bullet proof vests are two completely different technologies.

    8. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by bitrott · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh... my god. What a nerd. Ok, it's a magic armor. What made you think physics SHOULD apply you silly sod?

    9. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How would the bullet drag the cloth into the hole without the cloth tearing somewhere? The projectile would have to either pierce the fabric or cause it to tear somewhere for your scenario to be realized. If this cloth is just as resistant to tearing as it is to piercing, then it would work fine. Not to say that you still wouldn't have one mother of a bruise, though.

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    10. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mithral isn't magic. Next.

    11. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Alric · · Score: 4, Informative

      Maybe you shouldn't include Tolkien in your education series. All he said is that the cave troll skewered Frodo with the spear. Peter Jackson is the genius who decided to put Frodo against a wall so there would be no where for all of that kinetic energy to go except right into Frodo's tiny, weak little heart.

      Jackson needs the education; leave the one true god, errr Tolkien, out of this.

    12. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 1

      Well, unless the shirt was absolutely skin tight, you'd have loose fabric; as soon as the bullet hits, it's going to pull that loose fabric after it. If the shirt was totally skin tight, you'd never be able to get it on, because by design, it wouldn't be able to stretch; as soon as it did, you'd again have fabric following the bullet.

    13. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by mikeee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Note that stiffness can be different at different timescales; you want a material that's flexible when you try to move it at 1 m/s, and rigid when you try to move it at 500m/s.

      So, in conclusion, the ideal armor is ziploc bags of ooblick, duct-taped together. I'm ready for my DARPA grants to pursue this further.

    14. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OF course, Being a fag, you do need such bareback methods of acquiring exit wounds.

    15. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by forgetmenot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here's a "slow speed" analogy for you. Take a dish cloth (this will be your kevlar or your nanotube t-shirt). Put it over a lump of plastercine (this will be you). Now poke your finger (your bulltet) into the cloth so that it indents into the plastercine.
      See the hole in the plastercine? See the lack of tear in your cloth? You still need something to dissipate the energy concentrated at the point of the bullet over a wide area. Kevlar does not do that, nor would any material light and flexible enough to wear as a t-shirt no matter what it's made of.

      That's why SWAT personnerl look like tanks instead of sleek scuba-divers - One t-shirt thin layer of Kevlar ain't nearly enough protection.

    16. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the need to breathe when you are wearing it.

    17. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by jhines0042 · · Score: 1

      Ever heard of magic?

      Mithril is a magic metal (in Tolkiens FICTIONAL world)

      So... like... get a life.

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    18. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by beavis88 · · Score: 1

      If the cloth didn't stretch (at all), and was perfectly skin tight, then yes, it would have to tear in order to pierce your skin.

      I am not a physicist, but I can't think of any material you could make a shirt out of, that would not stretch at least a little bit.

    19. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by JahToasted · · Score: 5, Funny
      First of all, Tolkien is dead, so its hard to explain it to him, Secondly please refer to the Simpsons:

      Frink: Yes, over here, m-hay, m-haven... in episode BF12, you were battling Barbarians while riding a winged apalousa, yet in the very next scene my dear, you're clearly atop a winged arabian! Please do explain it!

      Lucy Lawless: Uh, yeah, well whenever you notice something like that.. a wizard did it!

      Frink: Yes, alright, yes, in episode AG04..

      Lucy Lawless: Wizard!

      Frink: Oh for glaven out loud..

    20. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What we need is a light and flexible material that stiffens in proportion to the attempted speed of bending.

      Thus you could wear it and wave your arms around, but if hit by a bullet or other fast-moving projectile the fabric would become stiff and distribute the impact over a large area.

    21. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by AblativeCoating · · Score: 1

      At least one sci-fi author (Niven in Ringworld Engineers) had an idea that addressed the bulk vs. protection quandry. Some of his characters wore an armored suit that, upon sharp and sudden impact, instantaneously stiffened over a large area. That is what you would need to defeat the projectile while dispersing the kinetic energy. This did mean that, upon bullet impact, the person wearing the suit would find that area of the body temporarily immobilized by the instant exoskeleton. Passes the TANSTAAFL test. Neat idea, if impossible at present.

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    22. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 1

      Maybe mithril behaves like a non-Newtonian fluid, and hardens on impact?

      Thinking on it, that's a neat idea! Perhaps the nano-stuff could be configured so that it uses the energy of impact to restructure itself into a configuration with the hardness of diamond, and when the engery disappates, it goes back into a looser, more flexible form.

      Or maybe not.

    23. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Mithril armor is actually a "smart material" sent back in time from the future such that it's indisguishable from magic. :)

      How it works is fairly simple (for someone from the fuuuuture): the material is networked and is aware of its state. When some of the "links" in the armor notice that they're moving very fast relative to their neighbors -- as would happen when a bullet or sword is trying to pierce -- it tenses and effectively becomes diamond plate armor, spreading the pressure out from a square centimeter to a square torso.

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    24. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Kryptoff · · Score: 1

      Without some impact absorbance, the bullet would just end up dragging a whole bunch of cloth into the gaping hole in your chest.

      What I thought about the bullet-proof nano-fabric was that it could stiffen on impact. (Something similar to the safety belt in the car: when the force is higher than a threshold it blocks.) That would be really cool!

    25. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Arcaeris · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The very point of chainmail - even your average real kind - is to transform piercing/slashing damage into like bludgeoning damage. Without a really incredible amount of force, the spear would never pierce chainmail (not counting the pinning to the wall) and minimally cut the skin.

      The real fiction, however, is how Frodo manages to remain unharmed. The spear wouldn't pierce the flesh, but you're right in that the force wouldn't be dissipated. It would have probably broken every bone in his chest.

      Despite not actually stopping blows, chainmail was still a very good piece of armor. A broken arm is better than a severed one, and with deaths from disease so high in that era, you wanted to prevent all the exposed insides you could. Stopped arrows pretty well, too.

    26. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Gulik · · Score: 4, Informative

      All he said is that the cave troll skewered Frodo with the spear.

      Actually, upon re-reading the series, I was relieved to find that it was the captain of the Orc guard (not the troll) who got Frodo, and Frodo's side hurt for days afterwards. I don't believe there was any mention of him getting pinned against the wall, either. So, sadly, I think Jackson has to take the total weight of this particular nitpick.

    27. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Taldo · · Score: 1

      If I remember right, (it's been a while....) Frodo actually goes flying back several feet. There's where your energy goes. Jackson screwed it up by having Frodo pinned against a wall.

    28. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by oggelbe2001 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The mogols used to wear silk shirts when riding into battle. The silk would not tear when the warrior was stuck by an arrow - just pushed into the wound by the force of the arrow. This made it easier to pull the arrowhead back out of the wound. Ouck. I can't envision this working as well with 38cal rounds in your chest cavity.

    29. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by ashshy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe it's a piezo-electric device, stiffening through means of generating electricity upon kinetic stimulus. There are tennis rackets (look down a bit, under the heading "Power Surge") that do this. Of course, it would have to be pretty damn efficient in this particular case, but the elves and dwarves might know something we don't.

      *duck*

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    30. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous+Rockstar · · Score: 1

      If you really want to take the fun out of it...

      Bilbo: (Intense look at Frodo) You see, Frodo... Mithril is made up of midicloreans which are tiny microscopic organisms...

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    31. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Not magic? Where can I pick up some Mithril then? I would like some Mithril underpants.

    32. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The standard army issue vest of the Bosnia era had no "impact absorbing plates".
      Granted, they weren't meant to stop rifle bullets, but they were reasonably light and flexible.
      The ceramic plates for the 'Special forces' vests didn't weigh very much either.

      I think the point is that this new material could make a better vest, not a perfect one.

      Standard issue vest + nanotube outer layer = rifle stopping, standard issue vest for the masses.

    33. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      ...the ideal armor is ziploc bags of ooblick, duct-taped...

      That's spelled "oobleck."

      Duh.

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    34. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by way2trivial · · Score: 1
      is it so hard to imagine something with a little S shape to it, that cannot be flexed beyond a certain point?

      at it's forging - it is shaped with the requisite bends to form arms encirclements, and a waistline, a collar-- and fit to the wearer.

      but yet has no flex at all beyond a few degress of it's design, say 10? at anything approaching pressure, it interlocks into a solid mass?

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    35. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Mal+Reynolds · · Score: 1

      As others have pointed out, you are entirely wrong. Basic Kevlar vests have no (zero, zilch, nothing) in the way of reinforcing plates. They're simply made of many layers of woven Kevlar cloth. Sure, that won't stop a rifle bullet at close range, but it will stop nearly any pistol bullet and does wonders with shrapnel. Ceramic plates are a mostly new addition to the bullet proof vest thing. But most cops I know only go with the basic cloth-type vest. It's a lot lighter and they're not too likely to be shot with a rifle anyway.

    36. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I am not a physicist, but I can't think of any material you could make a shirt out of, that would not stretch at least a little bit."

      Um...isn't the entire point of this article that said material would be nanotubes? Sheesh.

    37. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by pokeyburro · · Score: 1

      Feel free to correct me on this. I always had the distinct impression that mithril itself wasn't magical, though it might have been forged using magic. It was just really well-made armor. All of its properties once made were accountable using nothing but physics (minus magic). Do the books make any reference to some "aura" or something accompanying mithril afterward to protect the wearer?

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    38. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by centauri · · Score: 1

      Exactly. As my brother pointed out to me (probably when I was complaining about the fact that Glamdring wasn't glowing when Sting was) there's no such thing as a continuity error in a fantasy movie. It's all due to magic.

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    39. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by pokeyburro · · Score: 1

      OK, as others have said, bulletproof clothing's purpose is to redistribute kinetic energy, so that a small fast force is turned into a large slower force. And it doesn't necessarily need to be heavy to do that; it just needs to be structured properly. And with that said, all that kinetic energy will still need to go somewhere, whether it's redirected all over the body, absorbed, turned into heat, or a combination of these.

      Maybe with "smart skin", you could keep redirecting that energy around and around the garment until it finally dissipates as heat. Of course, get hit a lot (say, from a Thompson), and you turn into a salisbury steak dinner, so that's a problem.

      Maybe it could be directed outward in various directions. The skin itself is pushed out, though not so hard as to break it, and then rebounds to its normal shape relatively slowly. I can just see someone getting hit with a bat to the chest and suddenly going all spiky everywhere.

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    40. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by TheSync · · Score: 1

      Is this really true? I thought that rifle rounds actually cut through the kevlar (or other ballistic-resistant material) itself. Some bullet-resistant vests also do not protect against sharp-edged weapons.

      Check this out, where even a handgun bullet can sometimes actually penetrate a kevlar vest, or here where there was penetration of several layers of kevlar.

      Blunt-force trauma is another reason to use hard plates, but penetration is an issue as well, especially with rifle bullets.

    41. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by badman99 · · Score: 0

      Seems to me buddy, that anyone that is aware of homosexual slang like 'bareback' is most probly a fag himself. Speakin from experience ere myself :)

    42. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by badman99 · · Score: 0

      What I don't understand is why you would shoot someone in the chest.....To me if you wanted to kill someone you would aim for their head, generally no protection instant kill.

    43. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I would rather have a bullet make a clean hole provided by the bullet-proof fabric then to have it naturally mushroom out and take a hunk of flesh with it (hollow points). Remember, death from a bullet wound is not from the entrance, but rather then exit point. That's the science of ballistics. BTW, according to the Geneva Convention, using hollow points is illegal. Regardless, it's still better to wound a solder then to kill him/her on the battle field. After all, it takes more resources to care for the wounded then the dead.

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    44. Re:Bullet-proof nano-fabric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And (bookwise) the links of the mithril armor were driven through the leather jerkin he was wearing. So there.

  16. Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by karlandtanya · · Score: 5, Interesting
    with the introduction of an infinitely strong weightless fiber.

    Space elevator.

    Variable sword.

    Shadow-square wire.

    Don't write these off as goofy SF ideas. These are well-thought-out designs with only one "If Only". When the final engineering solution for the "if only" part of the design appears (and it will), the prediction is realized.


    Ever heard of geostationary satellites?

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    1. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by alwayslurking · · Score: 1

      Iain M Banks' mini-rings make shadow squares unnecessary. A smaller ringworld orbits the star rather than encircling it and with a bit of polar inclination you can set the day/night ratio as you prefer. Still need something pretty sturdy to build them, so I guess they're an alternate app.

    2. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Shadow-square wire.
      Sadly this required a material that is stronger than the strong nuclear force.
    3. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1
      Variable sword.
      Anyone working on stasis fields?
    4. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by DesertFalcon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Please say that "light saber" is one of these things we're just one step away from...

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    5. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Where are the calculations on this? I did some Google searches, but they turned up nothing.

    6. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by CvD · · Score: 4, Informative
      For those of you (like myself) wondering wtf those are:

      Variable sword

      shadow square wire

    7. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by Saeger · · Score: 1
      "The stresses such an artifact would undergo are so strong that the tensile strength of scrith approaches that of the strong nuclear force, which holds atoms together (4)." - physics+ringworld

      Orbitals are sane; ringworlds aren't.

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    8. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with a variable sword?

      Think of that barfight at Mos Eisley. Maybe Ben used the force to keep the cops from showing up? I'm no Jedi Master, so I don't realy know.

      Wouldn't you prefer this scene? Billy Badass threatens to pound you. You yawn and stretch and Billy's left arm falls off just below the elbow. As you quietly wind up the filament into your false thumb..."Gee, Billy, what happened to your arm? You're bleedin' kinda bad there, dude. Want me to call 911?"

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    9. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

      Followed your link... Scrith is the substrate of the ring. Where's the math for the shadow square wires?

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    10. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Sure, I knew scrith required more tensile strength than theoretically possible, but I haven't seen any similar calculations for shadow square wire.

      Of course, I haven't seen any calculations for SSW at all, so it's still quite possible you're correct.

    11. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by DesertFalcon · · Score: 1

      The cops did show up, remember? Only the cops were called Storm Troopers, and they had to hurry out, which left Han Solo free to blast the bounty hunter. (Not exactly a Star Wars geek, I just happen to have seen them again the other night.)

      So what's a variable sword? What are they and how do they "work"?

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    12. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by evilWurst · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The variable sword wasn't actually dependent on an infinitely strong weightless fiber, or at least not the impossible type used for the shadow squares.

      What it DID need to work was a statis field around it. That's what made it super sharp - unbreakable unbendable fine wire, all the force of a swing put into such a thin area. That, and the blade was nearly invisible.

    13. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh. I've got a pretty nice variable sword of my own.

    14. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by jeff+munkyfaces · · Score: 1, Insightful

      how do you hold a variable sword? surely it will cut straight through (with no effort) whatever hand/handle is holding it?

    15. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by Read+Icculus · · Score: 1

      You ever heard of google buddy? Variable sword - It's like a monofilament, a super-fine piece of something that is ensconced in a stasis field. It can cut through most anything. Think lightsaber without all the flashy coolness and noise. Also see "Shadowrun" and numerous other sci-fi worlds. A super thin, possibly invisible "string", that will slice you in two as you're running down the hallways of Aztechnology.

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    16. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      Okay, maybe you're right - in the books, shadow squares are the same material. Maybe they don't need to be.

      The shadow squares rotate either slightly faster or slightly slower than the ring, but they're a lot closer to the sun, so their natural orbital period is slower than their rotation speed by a smaller proportion than the ring's. Maybe that would lead to lower stresses.

    17. Re:Clarke and Niven have some more apps... by Quelain · · Score: 1

      I don't recall that Ringworld mentioned exactly how many wires there were between a pair of squares. The one that got snapped didn't result in a catastrophic failure, so you have to assume there were more than two at least. It could have been thousands, or millions I suppose.

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  17. I'd like to be the first to say... by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 1, Funny

    Can you see me now?

    Good!

    Can you see me now?

    Good!

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  18. Too bad then... by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 0, Troll

    ... that they still cost 10 times as much as gold.

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    1. Re:Too bad then... by Bearpaw · · Score: 4, Insightful
      ... that they still cost 10 times as much as gold.

      "Economy of scale: Reduction in cost per unit resulting from increased production, realized through operational efficiencies. Economies of scale can be accomplished because as production increases, the cost of producing each additional unit falls."

      Or to put it another way, the prototype of the CPU in your computer probably costed a hell of a lot more than "10 times as much as gold", but you probably didn't pay that much for yours.

      It's entirely predictable and unsurprising that some of the possible uses of nanotubes will be designed and sometimes prototyped before nanotubes are available in sufficient quantity, quality, and economy to make those uses widely available. The R&D of cheaper production techniques that feed into (and are fed by) economies of scale wouldn't even begin without speculations and prototypes.

    2. Re:Too bad then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's see:

      A 225 mm2 die, 0.5 mm thick = 112 mm3.
      Silicon density: 2.33g/cm3
      Die mass: 0.26g
      Price: $250 or $1000/g

      Gold price: 400$/oz = 14$/g

      Your mass-produced CPU is 70 times as expensive as gold by mass... (unless you count the packaging, which you wouldn't count for gold either).

    3. Re:Too bad then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the CPU in my computer, lets say it costs $50,
      still cost a LOT more than gold by weight. That
      square centimeter of silicon, which weighs less
      than a gram, cost a good bit more than gold, which
      as of this afternoon trades at $11.27 a gram.

    4. Re:Too bad then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's entirely likely that the mass-manufactured CPU chip in your computer cost more than its weight in gold, if you only count the silicon chip and not the packaging. The chip is simply so thin and small to begin with that buying such a tiny amount of gold would be cheap... and if you tried to buy a tiny chip of gold you'd probably find out that gold chips are not mass-manufactured so you'd end up paying a whole lot more.

  19. Suggest you change your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    [Front] RIAA sued me, and all they got was this lousy T-shirt
    [Back] SCO was here.
    [Shoes] Where you will go today(M$)
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  20. Everytime I read about nanotech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I notice similaraties with Stephenson's 'The Diamond Age'... You say Carbon Nanotube based memory chip... He calls it rod logic, but it's clearly the same thing

    Just wait until we get some vacuum-filled buckyballs and some useful nano-power sourde.

    The diamond age is about to begin.

    1. Re:Everytime I read about nanotech by Ugmo · · Score: 1

      I think the rod logic in Diamond Age is more a mechanical thing. It is a Babbage Engine at the atomic scale with little gears and rods. This is talked about in K Eric Drexler's book that started the nanotechnology craze Engines of Creation.

      The book seems to be available online.

    2. Re:Everytime I read about nanotech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think buckyballs can be filled with air molecules, so how exactly do you propose we remove them and make vacuum-filled buckyballs? -Xander

    3. Re:Everytime I read about nanotech by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      There's two problems with nano-machines; power and control.
      In other words, how do you get enough power to move those tiny limbs (and how are you going to move those tiny limbs in the first place? Tiny pistons?) and how do you give the thing an instruction set (where is it's program? A built in Dell?).

      Now the power and movement could probably be solved (ambient heat and electric motors), but the control aspect is damn near unsolvable unless you want a nano-sized machnine with a milimeter cpu on it's back...in your bloodstream :)

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    4. Re:Everytime I read about nanotech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



      "but the control aspect is damn near unsolvable"

      Yeah, That sounds imposible..
      Is amazing how a composite of nanomachines (some people say cells) like you can write in slashdot.

    5. Re:Everytime I read about nanotech by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      Ok, ok...I'll amend it to "damn near unsolvable with our current understanding of physics and biology. In about two hundred years we might know enough to start contemplating this, but at the moment it is not only unfeasable but our best scientists wouldn't even know where to start."

      Happy now?

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  21. What if ... by Zanek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: "The ability to place CNTs directly on a substrate while controlling their spacing, size, and length, provides a high quality image with optimized electron emissions, brightness, color purity and resolution for flat panel displays. Other attempts in this field utilize a "paste" or "print" method of applying CNTs, which to date, have not been able to provide the same level of display image quality, or the potential cost savings of Motorola's NED process."

    This brings up some interesting ideas !
    What happens when the technology for laying the nanotubes onto substrates becomes so good that we
    are able to build car frames or house frames from it(think 3D substrates of nanotubes) ?
    How about another question , how easy is it for one to recycle this crap.
    We already have problems with millions of old junk PC's and monitors, what happens when you have near indestructable nanotube structures ?

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    1. Re:What if ... by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Funny

      > How about another question , how easy is it for one to recycle this crap.

      Burn it. It's coal.

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    2. Re:What if ... by slagdogg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What happens when the technology for laying the nanotubes onto substrates becomes so good that we
      are able to build car frames or house frames from it(think 3D substrates of nanotubes) ?


      Automobile frames will probably be made of carbon fiber in the next few years, I think that will be "good enough". Check Discovery channel's "Extreme Engineering" for how nanotubes could really be used, on that gigantic pyramid thing.

      http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/engineering/p yramidcity/interactive/interactive.html

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    3. Re:What if ... by bsdparasite · · Score: 1

      Really? This is insightful indeed. I don't think I want flammable TV screens. Or a bullet proof vest that burns. Do you think people will be able to burn this after merging it with a substrate?? Enjoy your short Karma filled life :).

    4. Re:What if ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      I'm working with a materials scientist at the U of M, and I've had the recent pleasure of meeting Dr. Andrew Taton. He's researching, among other things, nanotubes. He's recently succeeded in creating a colloidal suspension of nanotubes in a rubber substrate. That means that it's cloudy (from the nanotubes) rubber that holds more stress than before, sort of akin to silk on the macromolecular scale.

      Another previously-unmentioned medical application of nanotubes involves liquid crystals. If the molecules of a material are in a liquid phase, yet are significantly longer than they are wide, they tend to line up, creating crystalline properties. Things that do this include the amphiphillic molecules in our cell membranes and many proteins, like that which causes Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (Mad-Cow Disease). Using nanotubes as a nucleation site, scientists may be able to cause BSE proteins to clump up in infected cells, neutralizing the disease and effectively halting any spread. Cool. -Xander

    5. Re:What if ... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      You apparently didn't ever try to start a grill. ;)
      Once it burns, it bursn, but getting it to start burning...

      Besides, women aren't too worried about wearing flammable jewelry (diamonds).
      Engineers aren't too worried that diamond drills will burst in flames from friction. They are just nearly as flammable. That is - you need to provide quite a lot of heat to burn it.

      Besides, what would it be if it had just plusses? Transistors create white noise, superconductors need low temp and are fragile, nuclear power causes unhealthy radiation, Linux has SCO issues, do you expect Nanotubes to be perfect? :)

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    6. Re:What if ... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      " How about another question , how easy is it for one to recycle this crap. We already have problems with millions of old junk PC's and monitors, what happens when you have near indestructable nanotube structures ?"

      Take a flash picture of it?

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  22. Car Bodies by Infernon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Smart skins would have been nice this morning when some jerk backed into my car and didn't bother to leave a note...

    1. Re:Car Bodies by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      Smart skins would have been nice this morning when some jerk backed into my car and didn't bother to leave a note...

      Too bad reactive armor isn't legal(?) on cars.

    2. Re:Car Bodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I eating a Krispy Kream and didn't notice your little piece of shit car.

  23. Re:You are the biggest karma whore I've even seen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time you see a story early, you race over to Google, pulling every link you can find. You toss them all into a paragraph and pouncepost it, gaining a nice fat +5 from the clueless slashbot moderators.

    You do this all the time, and I'm calling you out on it. What do you have to say for yourself?


    -1 Troll? Try +1, Insightful. Oh, but you called the mods a bad name. Oops.

  24. vias in semiconductors by tlk+nnr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Another potential use for nanotubes are the traces on semiconductors:
    I've seen a presentation from Infineon about using carbon nanotubes instead of copper for the vias in copper - time frame for production 3-5 years.

    http://www.eurosime.com/bgnd.htm#es03

  25. That should be by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    "Can you see me now? ... Good..."

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  26. Re:You are the biggest karma whore I've even seen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The way I see it, if the mods are stupid enough to fall for it, he's earned that karma.

    It's not his fault the system's broke. He's just exploiting it. The very definition of hacker.

  27. But what about flying cars?! by Sagarian · · Score: 1

    I was promised a flying car! Will nanotubes deliver?

    1. Re:But what about flying cars?! by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      I was promised a flying car! Will nanotubes deliver?

      Maybe they could be used to improve the Moller Skycar in some way.

    2. Re:But what about flying cars?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flying cars are already here.

  28. He's a genius, and a modpoint troller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Otherwise, those plusses he gets would end up being minuses on your posts, so the the complaintant needs to STFU and let it happen.

    Hooray for mao, master modpoint troller!

  29. when I die..... by Simsypoo · · Score: 1, Funny

    I want to be made into a carbon nanotube condom.

    1. Re:when I die..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean that when you die, in the end you want the main cavity of your body filled with another man's semen? Heck, man, we can do that today with no fancy-pants carbon nanotube technology needed!

    2. Re:when I die..... by cmdr_beeftaco · · Score: 1

      Some how I don't think "now with nanotube technology" would be a huge condom buyers. I personally need an extra long megatube.

  30. The market for nanotech... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ...is very very tiny. The shopping carts are also small, thought slightly less so.

  31. IBM Developing MRAM prior to this so-called NRAM. by cenobita · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems Nantero has taken a "hint" from IBM by trying to beat them to the punch.

    Wired had an article in April of 2000 on a technology called MRAM being developed by Stuart Parkin at IBM. Very interesting stuff, and they had working prototypes before this Nantero thing. From what I can tell, Nantero probably read the same article I did, as the similarities are quite remarkable.

    Check it out: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/mram.html

  32. Plastics... by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The amusing thing about the plastics mentioning is that it really has come true, as far as market penetration. Almost everything that we deal with is plastic, from the bulk of the styling panels on modern automobiles, to grocery bags, to computer parts. Almost every strap connector is made of plastic, and many ropes are plastic-impregnated for strength and longevity. We ship our food in plastic, we filter our water with it. We contain industrial fluids in it. It's everywhere. It's easy to find devices that are nearly 100% plastic, it's nearly impossible to find something with absolutely no plastic in it whatsoever.

    Maybe the Buggles album "Age of Plastic" is fully appropriate by name. Certainly the method I use to play it is plastic...

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    1. Re:Plastics... by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      (it's nearly impossible to find something with absolutely no plastic in it whatsoever)

      Banana / Apple / Carrot / Orange, OFF THE TREE. Admittedly, those waxes they use could possibly qualify as a plastic. [oh yes... carrots come out of the ground.]

      Construction materials: Wood. Concrete [many kinds, though not waterproof]. Bricks. Nails. (not CC's, though: they have thermoplastic cement]

      A GOOD white starch shirt from Lancaster, PA.

      Dirt. Water. Air.

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    2. Re:Plastics... by JDevers · · Score: 1

      My pants are entirely plastic free, as is my broom, my doors, all the books on my shelf, virtually all the mail I get, and my cat (debatable).

    3. Re:Plastics... by Surak · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's easy to find devices that are nearly 100% plastic, it's nearly impossible to find something with absolutely no plastic in it whatsoever.

      Yeah, people too, especially Hollywood stars. :)

    4. Re:Plastics... by Darken_Everseek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just on a side note, polyethylene is a fairly common material used in fibres to reinforce concrete, especially when the wieght of rebar isn't wanted.

    5. Re:Plastics... by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My pants are entirely plastic free

      Doubt it. Odds are, the tags that were on the pants when you bought them were attached with and/or made of plastic. They were probably manufactured with machines containing rather large amounts of plastic, and were shipped in containers partially made of plastic.

      my broom

      Old broom then. Most of the newer brooms are made entirely of plastic -- yeah, they're the cheap ones. They work just fine too.

      books on my shelf

      Which probably had theft prevention tags in them which contained plastic.

      virtually all the mail I get

      What, you mean the magazines that have plastic wrappers, or any of the mail with a plastic clear window? And I've had an increasing number of junk mails that actually used plastic-ish envelopes.

      my cat

      As you noted, good odds it recently ate something plastic :) -- but even then it's litter is probably in a plastic container (unless it's an outdoor cat, in which case I really hope it isn't!), good chances that the food/water bowls are plastic, and really good odds that some of its toys are plastic (hell, our youngest cat's favorite toy is a plastic tie wrap).

      Yeah, pushing it on some of those, but you know what the OP meant, and he's pretty much correct. There's very little chance that you can entirely avoid the use of plastic nowadays.

    6. Re:Plastics... by arkanes · · Score: 1

      You don't get mail with those clear envelopes? The metal plates on your your door don't have plastic film on them? NONE of your books have a jacket?

    7. Re:Plastics... by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I had an engineering professor that once delved into the whole 'fossil fuel' issue. He said the biggest problem with "using up" oil wasn't that gas would be more expensive, but that the plastics industry would implode. Plastics, not gasoline, are the biggest consumers of petroleum products.
      Well, I found that interesting. :)

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    8. Re:Plastics... by JDevers · · Score: 1

      I know, I know...I was just pointing you that not "EVERYTHING" is made of plastic.

    9. Re:Plastics... by JDevers · · Score: 1

      In order...
      yes, but very rarely.
      metal plates? You mean the hinges? Nope, they are just brass-looking metal.
      None of the books on my bookshelf do, all are academic books for the classes I've recently completed or paperback novels. Personally I hate hardcover novels...that's just me, I think the average person likes them better.

      Disregarding the above, I was trying to prove the point that not EVERYTHING is made of plastic or contains plastic.

    10. Re:Plastics... by TWX · · Score: 1

      "Yeah, people too, especially Hollywood stars. :)"

      Is that personality or chest augmentation content? Or a combination of multimples therein?

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  33. The Graduate by sryx · · Score: 1, Funny

    Posted by timothy on Wednesday July 02, @12:59PM
    Perhaps if The Graduate was being made today, the one word for Benjamin Braddock's future would not be "plastics" but "nanotubes"."


    Mr. Timothy, your trying to seduce me :P

    1. Re:The Graduate by SiMac · · Score: 1

      In real life, she was only about five years older. (Yes, I'm too much of a movie geek.)

  34. Grow and grow??? by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 1

    Huh? I don't see anything in the articles about any of those applications increasing in size... Although, it would be pretty sweet to have a growing flat panel display...

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  35. Artificial replacements of other materials by Ra5pu7in · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The reason that plastics are seen to represent artificiality has nothing to do with their core makeup. It has to do with the fact they are used to replace other materials - in a way that mimics the original material without actually having any of the original material. Examples: faux furs and glasses (both cups and eyeglasses apply here). No matter how close in look and feel a plastic comes to the original material, it is still not really that material - and thus is artificial.

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    1. Re:Artificial replacements of other materials by Jerf · · Score: 1

      The reason that plastics are seen to represent artificiality has nothing to do with their core makeup.

      Yes, thank you for stating the obvious.

      Perhaps if you re-read my message, you'll see that that in the context of the message it was replying to it makes perfect sense, and "why plastics represent artificiality" isn't germane to my message at all.

    2. Re:Artificial replacements of other materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think you are a better writer than you really are. No one got what you were saying.

    3. Re:Artificial replacements of other materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's also stupid.

    4. Re:Artificial replacements of other materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And has a small dick too. I'd know.

    5. Re:Artificial replacements of other materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. CmdrTaco is posting as an Anonymous Coward.

    6. Re:Artificial replacements of other materials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got it, and at least 4 moderators did to.

      No writer can force stupid readers to understand.

  36. Nonotubes are growing and growing? by Gregoyle · · Score: 3, Funny
    I thought the whole reason we were using them was that they were small?

    ::ducks::

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  37. UK gov tries to catch up in nanotech by tarquin_fim_bim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's an article on the Register outlining the UK Governments proposed investment of £90m (GBP) in nanotechnology over the next six years here. With links to the announcement on the Government News Network. A very little too late perhaps.

  38. But really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...how hard is it to fool most of the fuckwit moderators on here? Like karmawhoring is hard. Hell, the best was the troll-karmawhore with the crude references buried in the posted fulltext of an article. How long did it take for the mods to catch on to that one? Hell, those STILL get modded up for a while before someone finally catches it.

  39. You might like to look into a crystal ball by fedrive · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.colossalstorage.net/eloy_3c.gif

    ferroelectric nanotubes

  40. Um, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would be for propaganda. I second grandparent's request and add UNBIASED.

  41. Spear-proof mithril armor by burgburgburg · · Score: 2, Informative

    While the strength inherent in the mithril is a component in resisting spear thrusts, it is in fact the Elfish magic that the armor has been imbued with that absorbs and dissipates the force of the blow. This is also the major factor in the delicious nature of Keebler cookies, which are also Elfish.

    1. Re:Spear-proof mithril armor by Lispy · · Score: 1

      errr....wasn't the mithril shirt made by the dwarfs?
      It was given to Bilbo by anelve (as much as I recall) but from what I understood the dwarfes made those shorts. So no Magic here. Just regular dwarfish smithing genius.

    2. Re:Spear-proof mithril armor by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      errr....wasn't the mithril shirt made by the dwarfs? It was given to Bilbo by anelve (as much as I recall) but from what I understood the dwarfes made those shorts. So no Magic here. Just regular dwarfish smithing genius.

      There is also Dwarvish magic. Remember, Dwarves made the rings and the magic door of Moria.

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    3. Re:Spear-proof mithril armor by Lispy · · Score: 1

      Lol, you may be right. I guess I was mixing Middleearth stuff with Warhammer again....
      btw, this looks cool, doesn't it?

    4. Re:Spear-proof mithril armor by sketerpot · · Score: 1
      Dvarves didn't entirely make the doors of Moria. To quote the doors themselves:
      The Doors of Durin, Lord of Moria. Speak, friend, and enter. [now, at the bottom] I, Narvi, made them. Celebrimbor of Hollin drew these signs.

      Celebrimbor drew the illustrations, and he was from Hollin, so he's probably an Elf, albeit one of the more Dwarvish types of Elves. However, the Dwarves did make the secret entrance to the Lonely Mountain which could only be seen when it was open or on Durin's Day.

      Man, I know too much about Middle Earth.

  42. Wrong by jeti · · Score: 1

    You say Carbon Nanotube based memory chip...
    He calls it rod logic, but it's clearly the same thing

    Neal describes mechanical computers.
    The articles dicuss the use of nanotubes
    as transistors.

  43. balloon antennae by Quietdemon · · Score: 1
    as seen on EXN.CA

    http://www.exn.ca/video/?video=exn20030325-airsh ip.asx

    Newer stuff all the time. As far as fabrics go, I think it's still a great invention, but as with all inventions, it will only do wonders when used properly. In which case it's still has to be handled by us puny hoomans.

    What if this new technology enables criminals to get away with stuff they didn't used to?

    Like when the Flash had to eat so many candy bars just to absorb...

    Mark my words! The day will come when Nanocriminals will be about!

    ~Sayeth the nanoprophet of doom

    How bout we make some roofing with the stuff? At least it'll last longer than 15 years, or Winter 98 in Québec.

    Hey maybe we can even convince the people in Montreal to keep the big O and have it covered with this stuff (Good luck)

    Betcha when it hits urban industries the taxpayers will be emptying their wallets because of it.

    While we're ahead maybe we should start making nano-checks; I wonder what a nanopenny will look like and how many it'll take for my nano jujubee.

    ~Nanoo Nanoo. Mork the Alien.

    QD

    p.s. at least I started on topic.

  44. Wired articles on nanotubes by truthsearch · · Score: 1

    Wired has also had some great articles. My favorite has been the plan for the space elevator. Thick as a piece of paper and a few feed wide, create a ribbon made of nanotubes miles long. Attach one end to a platform in the middle of an ocean. Attach the other end to a station in geo-cync orbit. Have a simple platform crawl up the ribbon into space.

    Plus it would make one hell of a great Freefall ride at Great Adventure.

  45. Spokesperson by The_Pey · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I betcha that Robin Williams will be picked up by the first company to really do something with these as a product.

    They'll dress him up as Mork on TV and he'll say "Nano Nano" over and over again.


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  46. Could I Possibly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wear my flat panel display and constantly run Futurama Episodes on my "smart skin" ?

  47. Stupid mods. by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    Doh. Just imagine! Current fishing poles are made from carbon fiber and they are strong like the hell! With a nanotube fishing pole you could go fishing for whales!
    And the string! It would NEVER break! Sooner the hook would get straightened or you'd lose your hands!

    Offtopic. Doh.

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    1. Re:Stupid mods. by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

      True! New lines ARE neeeeeded! I've lost too many fish already.

      Still, the greatest fishing lines today are more than 2.5 times stronger than the strongest nylon fishing lines, at the same diameter. A 0.30 mm diameter line of today break first at well over 20kg (some 43 pound [or whatever... I'm ISO-metric]). And, several of my friends have had their hooks straightened before their lines broke.

      Fishermen are keen "benchmarkers", too :)

  48. Hacking Matter by HolyN00b! · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Read a fantastic book on nanotechnology and future possible applications - specifically speaking of artificial atoms (see buckyballs) in a book called

    Hacking Matter: Levitating Chairs, Quantum Mirages, and the Infinite Weirdness of Programmable Atoms
    Excellent read - although I have now decided to freeze myself for thawing in about 200 years.
  49. haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you mad, so sad

  50. my err.... nano-tube. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i keep getting these popups that tell me i should be larger... In related news my girlfriend told me that i have a nano-tube....

  51. Trolling - the new age, via mao by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What is a troll? Is it merely one that posts in a manner meant to elicit negative or gullible responses? Is a troll rather a person skillfull enough to create controversy within a given discussion without actually adding to the discussion itself? If such is a troll, there are many techniques that a person could utilize in order to accomplish this task: offtopic misinformation, inflammatory messages and comments, and assertions which contain obvious flaws in logic or reasoning.

    We are all familiar with the intricities and variations of the most common forms of trolling: vulgar ascii imagery, brutal character attacks, non-sensical charades, highly explicit and disgusting narratives of obscene sexual escapades, et cetera. More complicated trolling involves roleplaying and the clever manipulation of emotion by asserting statements that disconfirm popular notions and/or ideals.

    Yes, the most common techniques and favored tactics of trolling are well known. We are famaliar with them, comfortable. The neccassary precautions have been taken and contingency plans have been developed. These famaliar trolls can be easily evaded and repulsed - or even vanquished. We have exhausted our resources to insure our complete defensibility against them.

    However, in our rush to defend against these threats, we have ignored the vigilant study of our enemie's evolving tactics. Insidious new shadows of threat grow while we remain oblivious.

    A new enemy is upon us. Not contempt with mere juvenalia, the capture of karma is imperative. Beyond the capture of karma, this new foe also demands of us negative and ellicit responses to his actions. There is no subject to which this enemy is not an expert. There is no topic from whence he can not derive humor. His cache of weaponary contains agents far more powerful then mere ascii imagery. Emotion is his puppet. You have been trolled, have a nice day.

  52. This is a legitimate idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how is this off-topic? What is being discussed is the economic possibilities of this material. I for one would love a lighter, unbreakable fly rod.

    Fishing in the US is a many-tens-of-billions industry, and it has just as much technology involved as other industries. Have you ever seen one of the newest $50,000 bass fishing boats, freaking GPS fish finders!

    Oh, and most fishing rods are made of graphite composites for the sensitivity they present the user. Carbon fiber constuctions are loved for the great rigidity and strength-to-weight ratio, that is why my bike is made of it.

  53. Re:Impeaching Bush? by xThinkx · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    "only thing he is guilty of is not being a left-wing wacko"

    That, defying the UN, breaking the geneva convention, creating one of the most ludicrous tax plans ever (and subsequently heavily damaging the economy), and oh yeah lying to the American people...

    Remember how pissed off everyone got when Clinton lied about his PERSONAL BUSINESS? Bush should be impeached, the hundreds dead because of his actions would thank whoever called for such action.

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  54. Re:Bullet-proof mithril? by jarsyl · · Score: 1

    Whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it.

  55. Re:Impeaching Bush? by vcbumg2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You Stupid bastard!! GO back to you leftist bookshop and shut the fuck up

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  56. Dear Republican Drone: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

    You may now return to your TV to watch
    more Bushisms

    Thanks in advance,
    W00t

  57. super solar cells by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Remember the old slashdot story that said that carbon nanotubes could absorb UV incredably efficiently (so much so that a camera flash would cause single-walled nanotubes to overheat and combust)? I am wondering why we aren't hearing about super efficient solar cells based on carbon nanotubes. ~90% efficiency would be pretty darn kool! :P The only problem I can think of is that they are still hard/expensive to make, but you would think that some people would be experimenting with this anyway.

  58. "textile" thread has far out application by crovira · · Score: 1

    The manufacturing machine could be put on a geostationary satellite and could "grow" a thread reaching earth and further out into space.

    Its "Fountains of Paradise" time.

    Arthur C Clarke must be so pleased. He got right the development and use of satellites, geostationary and orbital, and now this.

    Kewl.

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    1. Re:"textile" thread has far out application by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      > The manufacturing machine could be put on a geostationary satellite and could "grow" a thread reaching earth and further out into space.

      And where would it get materials from? There's not much free carbon in vacuum!

      Don't you think manufactured on Earth thin threads of the "rope" lifted to orbit, attached to existing construction and attached either to the end of built already rope, or along it, to strenghten it would be better?

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  59. The Graduate by nycsubway · · Score: 1

    I think you are missing the whole point of the movie "The Graduate". Dustin Hoffman got to bonk that older woman. That's it.

  60. Re:Impeaching Bush? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at least leftist booksellers doesn't kill inocent people.

  61. Niven's Impact Armor by Bombula · · Score: 1

    I think Larry Niven's idea of impact armor is cooler: lightweight material that is flexible until it's elastic limit is exceeded, at which time it instantaneously hardens into material stronger than steel. Nifty. Looks like Sinclair Molecule Chain may not be that far off either. Now if only we could figure out the General Products Hulls!

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  62. I R #1! 4|| 0TH3R5 R #2 0R |0W3R! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Firstus postus beeeeeeeeotchae!!!

    Bow down and worship my refulgent perspicacity!!!






    Pleeeeeeease?!!!!

  63. I just heard the funniest geek joke!: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Q: Why do programmers confuse Hanukah with Halloween?

    A: Because 25 DEC == 31 Hex!

    ROFL!




    Oh, and GOAT!

    1. Re:I just heard the funniest geek joke!: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Idiot!

      You do it WRONG!!!!

  64. active armor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    topic is diverging, but there are some amazing tank armor systems that detect the incoming projectile (often a high-mass, low-cross-section sabot - basically a uranium spike) and actually jump off the tank to meet it. The sabot is deflected just enough to hit the main armor slightly skew, destroying the sabot without penetrating the tank. It's just mind-fudgingly amazing that these things can work.

    1. Re:active armor by rmm4pi8 · · Score: 1

      they dont detect the penetrator, the explode when it hits the outer part of the reactive armor casing. further, while they may have some minimal effect on du penetrators, the real point is to disrupt shaped charge projectiles, which are the cheap and common way of attacking tanks. do your homework.

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  65. Ahem! by Capt'n+Hector · · Score: 2, Funny
    ...MP3 players with 1000s of songs...

    iPod.

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  66. Sheesh yourself by beavis88 · · Score: 1

    From the article about bullet proof "cloth":

    The fibre's toughness probably results from structural changes during stretching

    Looks like it does stretch to me. Which was the entire point of my post.

  67. Query by Hartley1 · · Score: 1

    What is "not too distant future" in hype-speak ?

  68. This is a nanotroll! - . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No it's not.

  69. Non Newtonian armour by nounderscores · · Score: 2, Informative

    That was in the Sourcebook Fields of Fire for the Shadowrun RPG. (and a damn fine gaming system it is too.)

    The bulletproof clothing felt like gel when worn under normal conditions, but when subjected to a shockwave from a projectile or blast moving at or above the speed of sound it would harden into a bodycast of the wearer. After the shock had passed around the wearer, the armour would return to its fluid state. It was available in two models - the original bodysuit which made the wearer immobile until it had re-liquified, and the second-gen stuff which only hardened in the places hit.

    The failure mode for a bad roll of the dice when defending against automatic weapons fire would the irreversible hardening of the suit into a permanent cast of the wearer.

    A GM I played with allowed one of my teammates to take out a NPC wearing the armour with subsonic silenced rounds. Likewise, knives and arrows passed through it with no side effects other than releasing a vile poisonous goo from the punctured armour straight into the entry wound.

    After that the remaining NPC Mercs wore kevlar and ceramic plates over their goo suits.

    1. Re:Non Newtonian armour by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the personal shield tech in Dune (the book). Something about having to slow the knife thrusts in order to get past the shield (too fast and you got blocked).

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  70. NEWS.GOOGLE.COM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    select sci/tech, gives you multiple sources for articles, a shitload of articles, and updates very often. google wins.

  71. Hand grenade by nounderscores · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Current offensive frag grenades use a winding of fine brittle wire to make the fragments. On hard ground these tiny staple like projectiles can shred a man three meters away and wound him at ten.

    What would a grenade made with a carbon nanotube casing with roving which would shatter into billions of tiny X-ray invisible fragments do? and would the carbon fragments even raise an immune response from the body? or would they be allowed to sit there with no symptoms until they moved one day years later to puncture an artery?

    1. Re:Hand grenade by kramer2718 · · Score: 1

      Wow. No offense meant, but you are one sick puppy to even think of that.
      Please never work for a defense contractor.

  72. Re:suck my dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did I mention that you can suck my dick?

    You mean "Variable Sword," right?

  73. Whoa! by nounderscores · · Score: 2, Funny

    They're Moderators Neo, they can take over any slashbot still logged into the system.
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  74. Re:Bullet-proof mithril? by sketerpot · · Score: 1

    Yes, we've heard.

  75. No time to waste reading past replies and article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm just guessing that our average Joe can't buy, let alone make, a nanotube, even if he had the resources, right?

    Nanotubes are quite volatile in many conditions, just like conventional silicon when it is thoroughly etched with cavities ... so I guess that makes it interesting to nerds and other disaffected types, being intimate with the condition.

    Aren't all the outreaching rebels turned into tools for speeding up the pace of totalitarianism, anyways?

  76. Re:Impeaching Bush? by xThinkx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wow man, what a convincing argument, with GO in all caps too. You really demonstrate the validity of your argument with your tact and extensive vocabulary.

    Oh, btw, there are a lot of people who aren't "leftist"s who hate Bush, take for example, nearly everyone outside of the US.

    Have a nice day, and remember, the only true way to show your loyalty to Mr. Bush is to sterilize yourself so you don't accidentally breed with a "dirty a-rab".

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  77. Nanotube... by Penguinshit · · Score: 1

    Isn't that Mrs. Gates' pet-name for Bill?

  78. Magic Corn Starch Mithril Armour by jriskin · · Score: 1

    Duh! Don't you know? The harder you hit it, the stiffer the entire thing becomes! Haven't you played with Ooblic? =P

    So its flexible for wear and hard when you get hit! Although, i'm not sure how they got it from being so sticky when its soft.

  79. I can see.. by nomel · · Score: 1

    a lot more of those "priceless" pictures showing up on the net. Girls wearing nanotube clothes, only to have them explode off of them because they were too close to the camera flash.

  80. +5 FUNNY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't really know why, but DAMN that was funny. Well done.

  81. Mail armour did not stop arrows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Despite not actually stopping blows, chainmail was still a very good piece of armor....Stopped arrows pretty well, too.

    Not true, actually. See, for example, http://gondolin.hist.liv.ac.uk/~azaroth/university /longbow.html:

    "a knight of William de Braose was hit by an arrow that went through his mail skirts, his mail leggings, his thigh, back through the other side of the leggings, through the wood of his saddle and into the horse's flank"

    Modern tests have shown that mail armour provided little resistace to arrows at typical direct-shot ranges (up to ~30 yards), which is a large part of why the English armies were so effective before the cannons were widely used.

    > Without a really incredible amount of force, the spear would never pierce chainmail

    For the same reasons, this is also not true. Mail armour was not so hard to pierce with a strong, straight thrust. Landing such an attack undeflected, however, would have been tough against a skilled opponent.

  82. No, the moderators ARE Idiots! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    Ok, I have to to REAL umbrage at whoever moderated this post as FLAMEBAIT .

    Given the facts that :

    1. The empirical fact that slashdot moderators ARE (mostly) idiots
    2. Your moderation goes away if you post in the thread (so the person who thought the post was "FLAMEBAIT" cannot possibly reply with a flame AND moderate the post. And if you moderated instead of replying, it wasn't much of a FLAMEBAIT, now was it?!!).
    Why not read the FAQ before squandering your mod points by finding no-good-shits to dump on? Then, instead of trying to push an infinite number of turds below the surface, <blink> go find some good posts to mod up </blink>.

    In fact, I will go as far as to say that any moderator that does use their finite mod points to mod down bad posts instead of modding up good posts is de facto an idiot. That's not flamebait, that's an honest opinion. Deal with it.

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  83. Who cares if it's bullet proof by heletek · · Score: 1

    A shirt that dosn't rip would be pretty nice i think. Not like there's drive by's in the computer room...

  84. Need a new abbreviation by Lonesome+Squash · · Score: 1
    The Motorola site refers to carbon nanotubes as CNT's. I'm waiting for the next step in miniaturization, the Carbon ultrananotube.

    It's the next inevitable phase

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