Okay you know what, the Samba team goofed, the dropped the ball, however when they found out the problem they fixed it and released the new package in record time. How often do you see that from MS?
How often do you see an MS coder on Slashdot saying "Ooops sorry guys, my fault, what can I say, I goofed"?
No one who has a clue ever says that Open Source Software is bug free or perfect, however what we do say is that the procedures followed when bugs are discovered is far superior to MS.
A little point, OS X is actually a BSD derivative therefore putting it in the GNU/Linux/BSD camp. Windows 2000 on the other hand has its own set of problems.
There are enough examples of Open Source Apps providing more stability and robustness than the commercial rivals to disprove your theory. Case in point Apache v IIS, also Perl v VBScript, Linux v win95/98/ME and definitely in a lot of cases win2000/XP.
I won't say that Linux is the perfect answer to every question, but it sure as hell has a lot more to offer through availability of code and the culture that has grown up around it than the culture of "Security through Obscurity" that MS promoted for a long time.
"It will be run by rich elitists who consider it their so-called burden to make the 'tough choices' for the ignorant masses."
Sounds like a certain Super power at the moment, not mentioning any names of course.
Seriously though what world do you live on and what the hell are you smoking. You are saying that the rule of law is a bad thing?? Shit in that case its militias all the way then.
Lets get something straight, most of the developed world and a fair chunk of the developing world thinks the International Court and the rule of law is a good idea, the list of the ones who don't make interesting reading. Hmm let's see the US (big surprise there), China (those funny old chinese, you should see what they do to Falun Gong members) and others.
You know from where I sit all I can see is America trying to set itself up as the bully of the school yard. It's disappointing becuase for the last decade America was starting to come out of its shell and participate as a genuine world citizen, but now its back to John Wayne diplomacy and fuck the rest of us.
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rack off nimwad
And now for my supporting arguments. The Internet is no longer an American owned idea. It now belongs to the world, and as such any move by the Americans to try and regain any sort of control they had over it would probably result in the US being cut out of the picture.
It is now the year 2003, we have moved beyond the original project that was the ancestor of the Internet, while it would be a pain to replace the hardware we would lose by cutting off the states it is not exactly impossible.
In closing, can you please take your jingoistic prattlings and kindly place them where the sun does not shine, the Internet is not just Americas playground anymore.
Perhaps this is something I should take to our local Council. Instead of Fibre or copper though we should really look at Wi-Fi.
The area I live in is right up against a pretty steep escarpment and we could quite effectively bounce the signals off the escarpment and back down onto the town.
But this is ridiculous. I'm surprised the Military didn't issue the reporters with standard phones at the start and ban anything else. And whats with the damn web cam shit on the news. Its like watching a really low bandwitdth version of a web clip. Come on people we must have a better compression scheme than that.
They're probably the same people who leave your office doors and windows wide open as well? With a big sign that says "Come on in, we're easy".
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No I am morally lambasting the US for supporting Saddam in the first place. For a country that purports to spread the concept of democracy and freedom to the world, the US supports a hell of a lot of thugs and tyrants.
Whenever I hear a US leader talking about "bringing freedom" to a people, I imediately start looking for the money angle.
And just on the USA bashing lets get this straight, I support the America that represents Freedom of Speech, the concept of true democracy and equality for all under the law. I do not support the America that will without any hesitation dis-enfranchise voters based on race, treat the world as its playground and support murderers and despots just so American companies can get access to cheap natural resources.
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And who supplied him with the Gas in the first place, who supplied him with the weapons of mass destruction, he sure as hell didn't build them himself at the beginning.
Until the US can admit that they fucked up big time by supplying him with the weapons and tools to make more and apologise to the Iraqi people for supporting Saddam in the eighties I have no time for the bullshit spread by either side.
The US could have fixed this problem twelve years ago when they had a valid reason to go into Iraq, however they pulled back leaving the kurds and Shi'ites to swing in the wind, this time round they have no such valid reason (and no the mid-term elections aren't a valid reason), this is more about trying to be seen as taking action on "terrorism" when they can't get at the one man who masterminded 11/9.
Bah I give up, go ahead, blow the shit out of Iraq and see if the troops come home in months or years. The shi'ites have promised to resist foriegn occupation, Turkey is itching to have a go at the kurds and Iran is eyeing of the shi'ite regions. Congratulations people you have just got yourselves well and firmly sucked into the Middle East, I hope you like humus because your going to be eating a lot of it from now on.
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I have taken a hell of a long look at myself over my life and no where can I find the justification for killing children. Maybe you can but I cannot.
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Anybody who can look at these pictures and still say war is okay had better have a long hard look at themselves.
For my money one the my favourite under-rated films was Dogma with Ben Afleck and Matt Damon. A very good film picking apart the Catholic faith. Having Alanis Morriset as god was good as well.
You give Saddam too much bloody credit by comparing him to Hitler. Hitler was a mad genius. He had managed to turn Germany around from being the joke of Europe at the end of WW1 to being the most powerful force on the European continent. Not only that but along the way he managed to instill in the majority of German people at the time a sense that the time had come for the rising of the Riech.
Saddam is a thug, he rules his country by force, Hitler ruled his by the consent of his people, and by the time they realised that he had brought them to ruin it was too late to do anything about him.
Saddam and Iraq are bit players on the world stage, their military is a pale shadow of what it was during the Iraq-Iran war, the people are suffering under both the deprevations of the Iraqi government, the UN sanctions (which US companies have broken) and the effects of the weapons the US used last time. Iraq poses a threat to itself more than anyone else, let alone a viable threat to world peace.
You give a man a gun knowing that he will use it to rob a bank then you are just as guilty as he is. The US supplied Saddam even though they knew he was in the middle of a war with Iran and that he had a track record of abusing his own people. The US has no moral high ground on this one.
I agree, its a shame really, it had so much potential and for a while there it was doing good, but now its just the tool of the cynical and ignorant. Ohh you meant the UN was useless did you, whoops.
Nope it was the US who sold him the matrials to conduct a war with Iran and the invade Kuwait, same with Bin Laden, America supplies him with money and arms and he turns around and bites you on the arse. Funny I am seeing a pattern here.
And while I am here lets just mention the Kurds and Shi'ites who were left to hang by the Americans after the first Gulf War.
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Damn right Bush is no Churchill. Not even Churchill advocated invading Germany to prevent a war. What Churchill wanted was to upgrade the Armed Forces to be able to fight when the fight came.
On the other hand Saddam is no Hitler, Hitler was a mad man who had visions of ruling the world, Saddam is a tin pot dictator with neither the vision nor the means to achieve a hundredth of what Hitler did.
Comparisons are so difficult especially when you start comparing chalk with cheese.
Are you seriously suggesting that keeping around 200 alleged terrorists locked up without due process is somehow comparable to killing 5000 civilians with chemical weapons?
How about blanketing an entire country in poison aimed to defoliate. Or maybe selling the poison and materials to Iraq in the first place even though they knew that Saddam was not a nice guy. Or how about sponsoring rebellions in various South American nations or constantly supporting a nation who developed nuclear weapons, is known to harbour designs on its neighbours and is a known human rights violater (you guess who I am talking about).
The US has no moral high ground here, none at all. If they had said "Yes, we screwed the pooch on this one, we're sorry now help us fix it," they might have gotten more help from the rest of the world. But instead they chose the "God Almighty is with us" route which is garuanteed to piss off people already sick of the "America is the greatest country in the world" attitude.
Nope he's gone "all the way with George". We are sending in Special Forces, Air Force and logistical support. Our prime minister has learnt nothing from Vietnam.
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Okay you know what, the Samba team goofed, the dropped the ball, however when they found out the problem they fixed it and released the new package in record time. How often do you see that from MS?
How often do you see an MS coder on Slashdot saying "Ooops sorry guys, my fault, what can I say, I goofed"?
No one who has a clue ever says that Open Source Software is bug free or perfect, however what we do say is that the procedures followed when bugs are discovered is far superior to MS.
A little point, OS X is actually a BSD derivative therefore putting it in the GNU/Linux/BSD camp. Windows 2000 on the other hand has its own set of problems.
There are enough examples of Open Source Apps providing more stability and robustness than the commercial rivals to disprove your theory. Case in point Apache v IIS, also Perl v VBScript, Linux v win95/98/ME and definitely in a lot of cases win2000/XP.
I won't say that Linux is the perfect answer to every question, but it sure as hell has a lot more to offer through availability of code and the culture that has grown up around it than the culture of "Security through Obscurity" that MS promoted for a long time.
Make them watch twenty hours of Ron Jeremy, they'll buckle quicker than Asia Carerras panties come off
Ooohh a bit touchy today are we?
Seeing as this is Domain Resolution without Representation.
"It will be run by rich elitists who consider it their so-called burden to make the 'tough choices' for the ignorant masses."
Sounds like a certain Super power at the moment, not mentioning any names of course.
Seriously though what world do you live on and what the hell are you smoking. You are saying that the rule of law is a bad thing?? Shit in that case its militias all the way then.
Lets get something straight, most of the developed world and a fair chunk of the developing world thinks the International Court and the rule of law is a good idea, the list of the ones who don't make interesting reading. Hmm let's see the US (big surprise there), China (those funny old chinese, you should see what they do to Falun Gong members) and others.
You know from where I sit all I can see is America trying to set itself up as the bully of the school yard. It's disappointing becuase for the last decade America was starting to come out of its shell and participate as a genuine world citizen, but now its back to John Wayne diplomacy and fuck the rest of us.
And now a reasoned and well though out response to this comment:
rack off nimwad
And now for my supporting arguments. The Internet is no longer an American owned idea. It now belongs to the world, and as such any move by the Americans to try and regain any sort of control they had over it would probably result in the US being cut out of the picture.
It is now the year 2003, we have moved beyond the original project that was the ancestor of the Internet, while it would be a pain to replace the hardware we would lose by cutting off the states it is not exactly impossible.
In closing, can you please take your jingoistic prattlings and kindly place them where the sun does not shine, the Internet is not just Americas playground anymore.
Perhaps this is something I should take to our local Council. Instead of Fibre or copper though we should really look at Wi-Fi.
The area I live in is right up against a pretty steep escarpment and we could quite effectively bounce the signals off the escarpment and back down onto the town.
But this is ridiculous. I'm surprised the Military didn't issue the reporters with standard phones at the start and ban anything else. And whats with the damn web cam shit on the news. Its like watching a really low bandwitdth version of a web clip. Come on people we must have a better compression scheme than that.
They're probably the same people who leave your office doors and windows wide open as well? With a big sign that says "Come on in, we're easy".
No I am morally lambasting the US for supporting Saddam in the first place. For a country that purports to spread the concept of democracy and freedom to the world, the US supports a hell of a lot of thugs and tyrants.
Whenever I hear a US leader talking about "bringing freedom" to a people, I imediately start looking for the money angle.
And just on the USA bashing lets get this straight, I support the America that represents Freedom of Speech, the concept of true democracy and equality for all under the law. I do not support the America that will without any hesitation dis-enfranchise voters based on race, treat the world as its playground and support murderers and despots just so American companies can get access to cheap natural resources.
And who supplied him with the Gas in the first place, who supplied him with the weapons of mass destruction, he sure as hell didn't build them himself at the beginning.
Until the US can admit that they fucked up big time by supplying him with the weapons and tools to make more and apologise to the Iraqi people for supporting Saddam in the eighties I have no time for the bullshit spread by either side.
The US could have fixed this problem twelve years ago when they had a valid reason to go into Iraq, however they pulled back leaving the kurds and Shi'ites to swing in the wind, this time round they have no such valid reason (and no the mid-term elections aren't a valid reason), this is more about trying to be seen as taking action on "terrorism" when they can't get at the one man who masterminded 11/9.
Bah I give up, go ahead, blow the shit out of Iraq and see if the troops come home in months or years. The shi'ites have promised to resist foriegn occupation, Turkey is itching to have a go at the kurds and Iran is eyeing of the shi'ite regions. Congratulations people you have just got yourselves well and firmly sucked into the Middle East, I hope you like humus because your going to be eating a lot of it from now on.
I have taken a hell of a long look at myself over my life and no where can I find the justification for killing children. Maybe you can but I cannot.
Anybody who can look at these pictures and still say war is okay had better have a long hard look at themselves.
For my money one the my favourite under-rated films was Dogma with Ben Afleck and Matt Damon. A very good film picking apart the Catholic faith. Having Alanis Morriset as god was good as well.
You give Saddam too much bloody credit by comparing him to Hitler. Hitler was a mad genius. He had managed to turn Germany around from being the joke of Europe at the end of WW1 to being the most powerful force on the European continent. Not only that but along the way he managed to instill in the majority of German people at the time a sense that the time had come for the rising of the Riech.
Saddam is a thug, he rules his country by force, Hitler ruled his by the consent of his people, and by the time they realised that he had brought them to ruin it was too late to do anything about him.
Saddam and Iraq are bit players on the world stage, their military is a pale shadow of what it was during the Iraq-Iran war, the people are suffering under both the deprevations of the Iraqi government, the UN sanctions (which US companies have broken) and the effects of the weapons the US used last time. Iraq poses a threat to itself more than anyone else, let alone a viable threat to world peace.
You give a man a gun knowing that he will use it to rob a bank then you are just as guilty as he is. The US supplied Saddam even though they knew he was in the middle of a war with Iran and that he had a track record of abusing his own people. The US has no moral high ground on this one.
I agree, its a shame really, it had so much potential and for a while there it was doing good, but now its just the tool of the cynical and ignorant. Ohh you meant the UN was useless did you, whoops.
Nope it was the US who sold him the matrials to conduct a war with Iran and the invade Kuwait, same with Bin Laden, America supplies him with money and arms and he turns around and bites you on the arse. Funny I am seeing a pattern here.
And while I am here lets just mention the Kurds and Shi'ites who were left to hang by the Americans after the first Gulf War.
Damn right Bush is no Churchill. Not even Churchill advocated invading Germany to prevent a war. What Churchill wanted was to upgrade the Armed Forces to be able to fight when the fight came.
On the other hand Saddam is no Hitler, Hitler was a mad man who had visions of ruling the world, Saddam is a tin pot dictator with neither the vision nor the means to achieve a hundredth of what Hitler did.
Comparisons are so difficult especially when you start comparing chalk with cheese.
Just a shame we have wasted 12 years to clean up this mess.
That would be the mess that the US made in the first place right?
Are you seriously suggesting that keeping around 200 alleged terrorists locked up without due process is somehow comparable to killing 5000 civilians with chemical weapons?
How about blanketing an entire country in poison aimed to defoliate. Or maybe selling the poison and materials to Iraq in the first place even though they knew that Saddam was not a nice guy. Or how about sponsoring rebellions in various South American nations or constantly supporting a nation who developed nuclear weapons, is known to harbour designs on its neighbours and is a known human rights violater (you guess who I am talking about).
The US has no moral high ground here, none at all. If they had said "Yes, we screwed the pooch on this one, we're sorry now help us fix it," they might have gotten more help from the rest of the world. But instead they chose the "God Almighty is with us" route which is garuanteed to piss off people already sick of the "America is the greatest country in the world" attitude.
Nope he's gone "all the way with George". We are sending in Special Forces, Air Force and logistical support. Our prime minister has learnt nothing from Vietnam.
For those who haven't heard George Bush has just delivered an ultimatum to Saddam to get out of Iraq within 48 hours or there will be a war.
I know my feelings on this and I am not going to start a flame war about the rights or wrongs of the impending war. Just letting people know.