"The first half is text based, consisting of a blue screen with white text. Not exactly pretty, and not particularly functional. It spent a long time 'copying system files' before it asked me any questions. Copying them where, though? I had an unformatted hard-drive in this machine, so I suspect the RAM."
And just how does this differ from something like Knoppix:)
"In order to get the hardware working, I had to visit the Intel website and download the required drivers. Finding out what hardware you have is a difficult process under Windows. With most Linux distributions,it is often as simple as typing lspci. Not so under Windows. Instead you have to open up the 'Control Panel', find your way to the 'System' applet, look for the Hardware tab, then launch the 'device manager'. That's a lot of clicking, for such a simple task!"
"Buhu, I hurt my hand clicking and I prefer to open a console and write commands."
"I wanted to know what was happening, so out of habit I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. Of course, this was a no go. It seems that virtual consoles aren't enabled in Windows by default. In fact, subsequent Google searches seemed to suggest that Windows doesn't come with this functionality at all! Your GUI is all you get. Perhaps new and inexperienced users would not need this functionality, or even notice it was missing, but I'm sure Linux 'power users', attempting to switch to Windows, will miss it."
Well, duuuuh, Windows doesn't have virtual consoles. And I'm pretty sure that new and inexperienced Linux users doesn't need the Ctrl+Alt+F1 functionality, or even notice it's missing.
"Okay, so I was finally logged in. There were icons all over the desktop. Icons I certainly had never placed there. With a growing sense of trepidation, I opened 'My Documents', a folder which should have been empty. It wasn't. It was full of my boss's stuff. I double-checked the profile information in Active Directory to make sure I hadn't inadvertently typed in the wrong profile path. I hadn't. Windows had simply magnanimously decided to swap my own My Documents folder with that of another user in the system. Now that is a truly disastrous bug."
No, that's a stupid admin.
"No matter. Time to see what software we get with a standard Windows install. Not much, as it turns out. I wasn't expecting a lot from a single CD install, but the complete lack of applications was rather scary, considering the normal price tag on a copy of Windows. Microsoft did include a text editor, but I don't know why. It had no options for syntax highlighting or automatic indenting, let alone 'advanced' features such as whether or not to use spaces instead of tabs, and if so, how many. This renders it rather useless for anything beyond basic editing of config files, and given that Windows config files all seem to be in binary formats anyway, it's hard to imagine why they even bothered including it. I'll stick to vim, thank you very much. There are versions compiled for Windows."
OMFG, that the great thing about Windows. People don't have to mess around with config files!
"Windows' only drawing program, 'MS Paint', is so basic it would turn even the most accomplished digital artist into little more than a kid with crayons. In a similar fashion, the default e-mail client 'Outlook Express', is barely functional, and the web-browser, 'Internet Explorer' is famed for its ability to destroy your entire computer."
Yes, you're right. Install GIMP, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Problem solved.
"The Windows command-prompt is called 'cmd', and it uses old DOS commands you are probably not familiar with. However, this is not likely to be much of a problem, as it is extremely limited, and not particularly worth using. Very few Windows programs are scriptable, anyway. Again, this appears to be an area where Microsoft have made our choices for us, deliberately neglecting an area of functionality they do not expect or want people to use."
He's probably publishing the article on a Windows PC because the page i/.'ed. Huh huh huh... Standard lame comment when something about Windows is posted.
I'm sure this could never happen to Linux. If something bad happened I imagine the guy presenting thinking something like "Oh... Okay, no problem. Let me just enter five obscure 100 char long commandlines and it'll work." and it probably does. The problem though is that no ordinary, or even slightly advanced, computers users know these commandlines and how they interact. That is the basic problem why Linux isn't installed everywhere. Sure, it's a great OS but hardly anybody knows how to make it work when the slightest problem occurs.
AOL certainly didn't kill Winamp. It's still my, and many others, preferred program for listening to MP3's and streaming radio and is being regular updated even though it's already rock solid. Or do you prefer Windows Media Player?
Excuse me for my extremely bad grammar but you Linux guys just pi$$ me off. It's like you live in your own make-believe world where everybody is getting ready to use Linux. Sadly that's not the defacto situation because Linux is *just* *to* *damn* *hard* to use compared to Windows.
Face it and solve it by making Linux even easier than Windows to use and make games work.
Okay, I started with a 8086 Intel chipset with DOS 3.something. Your simplification of console commands are ridiculous. It's like telling a layman that if you know where the heart is you can probably figure out open heart surgery. Besides that, this is 2005 and people don't want consoles. I can use DOS, Linux consoles, telnet, FTP, but hey! Guess what? I don't want to when there good GUI's that I can use much faster with a mouse. That's the thing that pi$$es me of with Linux and why I choose Windows.
Don't care about me, I'll switch to Linux when I see some benefits, but care about the other 90% out there that can't even use a console.
Uhm, no. I don't have to switch to Linux because I don't have security issues with Windows. Even if I was forced to use Linux I would have problems porting my games. Secondly I'd have to learn a whole new way of how to use my computer and I hate wasting time. So instead of acting like the usual Linux bitch that says Linux will rule the world shortly, which has been said for years now, why don't you make migrating from Windows to Linux pleasant?
It must be nice in Linux fairy land. Everything works and everything is easy when you know the 100+ basic console commands to the simplest of problems *LOL*
Let's hope so. I've tried several times to switch to Linux but gave up every time after a few days because I'm used to Windows. Maybe Linux has a better GUI but don't expect me to spend weeks learning it.
I tried to persuade my different employers for years to try Linux and every time I got the same result; we won't switch to Linux because when the person responsible quits we're left with a system that nobody understands. Today I see their point. Yes, the short term benefit is a rock solid and fast system but what will happen in the future when the person isn't there anymore, die, or whatever? Then you're stuck with a system no ordinary person can administer. So the next step will be to find a Linux expert. Good luck with that. Next is what the person should be paid and because that kind of people is rare their wages are high. Everybody knows the basic of Windows and if they need some special training then that's easy to find too. Try finding an advanced Linux course with some kind of certification that employees recognizes. Pretty hard to do, at least here in Denmark.
The problem with Linux is that it's so damn hard to understand compared with Windows. I've tried for years to get started but every time I quit after a few days because everything is just easier in Windows.
Maybe I'm stupid, maybe I'm lazy, but I simply won't invest at least a month learning basic stuff in Linux that I already do in Windows.
If it took them two weeks to get software installed and running like that, I'd fire them right away.
And do what? Hire Linux experts? Since Linux is the underdog it should make things easier to administrate and use than Windows. I agree that if the company got Windows up and running in two days it probably wasn't done right, but at least it works.
I'm not a Linux user and simply browsed the todo list. One thing that caught my attention was the topic of adding a basic non-scientific mode to KCalc. Why? Maybe somebody absolutely want 1+2*3 to equal 9.
Was it really a bug in Firefox that made/. render incorrectly? AFAIK/. didn't conform to the W3C HTML standard anyway and all other pages on the web rendered fine. Anyway, I'm very pleased to see the new code and maybe I'll even submit a CSS. Would have preferred XHTML though.
That's funny. I notised that/. was "down" approximately 10 hours ago, went to bed, woke up and saw the new design. The first thing I did was to view the source, expecting it to finally be XHTML. But it's still plain old HTML. When the heck will/. upgrade with all the articles and demos we've seen previously?
And yes, I spend way too much time in here:D
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"The first half is text based, consisting of a blue screen with white text. Not exactly pretty, and not particularly functional. It spent a long time 'copying system files' before it asked me any questions. Copying them where, though? I had an unformatted hard-drive in this machine, so I suspect the RAM."
:)
And just how does this differ from something like Knoppix
"In order to get the hardware working, I had to visit the Intel website and download the required drivers. Finding out what hardware you have is a difficult process under Windows. With most Linux distributions,it is often as simple as typing lspci. Not so under Windows. Instead you have to open up the 'Control Panel', find your way to the 'System' applet, look for the Hardware tab, then launch the 'device manager'. That's a lot of clicking, for such a simple task!"
"Buhu, I hurt my hand clicking and I prefer to open a console and write commands."
"I wanted to know what was happening, so out of habit I hit Ctrl+Alt+F1. Of course, this was a no go. It seems that virtual consoles aren't enabled in Windows by default. In fact, subsequent Google searches seemed to suggest that Windows doesn't come with this functionality at all! Your GUI is all you get. Perhaps new and inexperienced users would not need this functionality, or even notice it was missing, but I'm sure Linux 'power users', attempting to switch to Windows, will miss it."
Well, duuuuh, Windows doesn't have virtual consoles. And I'm pretty sure that new and inexperienced Linux users doesn't need the Ctrl+Alt+F1 functionality, or even notice it's missing.
"Okay, so I was finally logged in. There were icons all over the desktop. Icons I certainly had never placed there. With a growing sense of trepidation, I opened 'My Documents', a folder which should have been empty. It wasn't. It was full of my boss's stuff. I double-checked the profile information in Active Directory to make sure I hadn't inadvertently typed in the wrong profile path. I hadn't. Windows had simply magnanimously decided to swap my own My Documents folder with that of another user in the system. Now that is a truly disastrous bug."
No, that's a stupid admin.
"No matter. Time to see what software we get with a standard Windows install. Not much, as it turns out. I wasn't expecting a lot from a single CD install, but the complete lack of applications was rather scary, considering the normal price tag on a copy of Windows. Microsoft did include a text editor, but I don't know why. It had no options for syntax highlighting or automatic indenting, let alone 'advanced' features such as whether or not to use spaces instead of tabs, and if so, how many. This renders it rather useless for anything beyond basic editing of config files, and given that Windows config files all seem to be in binary formats anyway, it's hard to imagine why they even bothered including it. I'll stick to vim, thank you very much. There are versions compiled for Windows."
OMFG, that the great thing about Windows. People don't have to mess around with config files!
"Windows' only drawing program, 'MS Paint', is so basic it would turn even the most accomplished digital artist into little more than a kid with crayons. In a similar fashion, the default e-mail client 'Outlook Express', is barely functional, and the web-browser, 'Internet Explorer' is famed for its ability to destroy your entire computer."
Yes, you're right. Install GIMP, Firefox, and Thunderbird. Problem solved.
"The Windows command-prompt is called 'cmd', and it uses old DOS commands you are probably not familiar with. However, this is not likely to be much of a problem, as it is extremely limited, and not particularly worth using. Very few Windows programs are scriptable, anyway. Again, this appears to be an area where Microsoft have made our choices for us, deliberately neglecting an area of functionality they do not expect or want people to use."
The point of Windows is tha
I'm sure that solving most problems in Linux doesn't require an IQ of 120. It just takes years of experience and plenty of practice :P
Dude, I wrote the initial comment. Read my signature :)
He's probably publishing the article on a Windows PC because the page i /.'ed. Huh huh huh... Standard lame comment when something about Windows is posted.
I'm sure this could never happen to Linux. If something bad happened I imagine the guy presenting thinking something like "Oh... Okay, no problem. Let me just enter five obscure 100 char long commandlines and it'll work." and it probably does. The problem though is that no ordinary, or even slightly advanced, computers users know these commandlines and how they interact. That is the basic problem why Linux isn't installed everywhere. Sure, it's a great OS but hardly anybody knows how to make it work when the slightest problem occurs.
AOL certainly didn't kill Winamp. It's still my, and many others, preferred program for listening to MP3's and streaming radio and is being regular updated even though it's already rock solid. Or do you prefer Windows Media Player?
What's your point? Do you have any FOSS code that'll prevent cheaters or are you just babbling?
Yes, and that too. I can't wait to get the best of Windows/Linux/MacOS/DOS/you-name-it.
If you look close in this thread you'll notice this post is a spoof ;)
Oh yeah, and a regular 2 MB kernel changelog are features or what?
What's a fahrenheit?
Wow, you must be one of those rare female ./ readers.
Excuse me for my extremely bad grammar but you Linux guys just pi$$ me off. It's like you live in your own make-believe world where everybody is getting ready to use Linux. Sadly that's not the defacto situation because Linux is *just* *to* *damn* *hard* to use compared to Windows.
Face it and solve it by making Linux even easier than Windows to use and make games work.
Okay, I started with a 8086 Intel chipset with DOS 3.something. Your simplification of console commands are ridiculous. It's like telling a layman that if you know where the heart is you can probably figure out open heart surgery. Besides that, this is 2005 and people don't want consoles. I can use DOS, Linux consoles, telnet, FTP, but hey! Guess what? I don't want to when there good GUI's that I can use much faster with a mouse. That's the thing that pi$$es me of with Linux and why I choose Windows.
Don't care about me, I'll switch to Linux when I see some benefits, but care about the other 90% out there that can't even use a console.
Okay, seriously. Anybody got Torrents to the movies of this /.'ed site?
Uhm, no. I don't have to switch to Linux because I don't have security issues with Windows. Even if I was forced to use Linux I would have problems porting my games. Secondly I'd have to learn a whole new way of how to use my computer and I hate wasting time. So instead of acting like the usual Linux bitch that says Linux will rule the world shortly, which has been said for years now, why don't you make migrating from Windows to Linux pleasant?
It must be nice in Linux fairy land. Everything works and everything is easy when you know the 100+ basic console commands to the simplest of problems *LOL*
Give me a Windows GUI.
I could say the same to you, sir. Why should 90+% users switch to Linux?
Let's hope so. I've tried several times to switch to Linux but gave up every time after a few days because I'm used to Windows. Maybe Linux has a better GUI but don't expect me to spend weeks learning it.
I tried to persuade my different employers for years to try Linux and every time I got the same result; we won't switch to Linux because when the person responsible quits we're left with a system that nobody understands. Today I see their point. Yes, the short term benefit is a rock solid and fast system but what will happen in the future when the person isn't there anymore, die, or whatever? Then you're stuck with a system no ordinary person can administer. So the next step will be to find a Linux expert. Good luck with that. Next is what the person should be paid and because that kind of people is rare their wages are high. Everybody knows the basic of Windows and if they need some special training then that's easy to find too. Try finding an advanced Linux course with some kind of certification that employees recognizes. Pretty hard to do, at least here in Denmark.
The problem with Linux is that it's so damn hard to understand compared with Windows. I've tried for years to get started but every time I quit after a few days because everything is just easier in Windows.
Maybe I'm stupid, maybe I'm lazy, but I simply won't invest at least a month learning basic stuff in Linux that I already do in Windows.
Start the flamebait *yawn*
So, where's the Torrent? ;)
I'm not a Linux user and simply browsed the todo list. One thing that caught my attention was the topic of adding a basic non-scientific mode to KCalc. Why? Maybe somebody absolutely want 1+2*3 to equal 9.
Was it really a bug in Firefox that made /. render incorrectly? AFAIK /. didn't conform to the W3C HTML standard anyway and all other pages on the web rendered fine. Anyway, I'm very pleased to see the new code and maybe I'll even submit a CSS. Would have preferred XHTML though.
That's funny. I notised that /. was "down" approximately 10 hours ago, went to bed, woke up and saw the new design. The first thing I did was to view the source, expecting it to finally be XHTML. But it's still plain old HTML. When the heck will /. upgrade with all the articles and demos we've seen previously? :D
And yes, I spend way too much time in here