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Review: Sims 2 Nightlife
- Title: The Sims 2: Nightlife
- Developer: Maxis
- Publisher: EA Games
- System: PC
- Reviewer: Zonk
- Score: 7/10
The microcosm world of The Sims 2 allows players to vicariously live out the lives of the rich, popular, or phenomenally stupid. The ability for the game player to project their own hopes and neurosis onto their virtual marionettes involves a lot of set dressing. Furniture, art, electronics, wallpaper, and swimming pools are just some of the tools Sims 2 players use to tell their stories. The set pieces that players seem to enjoy manipulating the most, though, are the Sims themselves. "Nightlife" is a generous package of objects, interactions, and locations designed to make lubricating Simlish society more convenient.
Like all Sims expansions, at its core "Nightlife" is a system add-on for the basic game. The first Sims 2 expansion, "University", added on a college campus to the neighborhood as well as a young adult development stage to the life cycle of the Simlish species. "Nightlife" incorporates the highly successful dating system used in the "Hot Date" expansion for the original Sims title. Dating allows Sims to improve their relationship by attempting a 'dream date' at romantic locations like parks, restaurants, and bowling alleys. The date mechanic is extremely useful, allowing two Sims that you'd like to get together the opportunity to improve their social connection in a hurry.
Besides actual dates, you can arrange group gatherings that pull together more than two Sims into an outing. These group gatherings are even more useful for raising social standings between Sims, but can be a mixed bag. Dates and gatherings are evaluated based on how good a time the participants have. While dates, with only two participants, are fairly easy to run group gatherings can be very challenging because of the number of Sims involved. Unattended Sims have a tendency to lose track of what they're doing, and if your gathering depends on everyone being on the same page even one wayward Sim can ruin the event for everyone. While the date mechanic is lots of fun, gatherings could have used a little more polishing.
Social gatherings need interesting backdrops to be fully appreciated, and the new downtown area very much fulfills that need. Downtown is chock full of different places, each themed to a different type of get-together. Rocking out with a group of musicians can be accomplished in the park, while a date might find the candle-lit restaurant more agreeable. Each of the default areas packaged with the expansion is a well thought-out venue for socializing, and they're usually handsome looking as well.
Some more subtle system additions also allow for easier socializing. Sims now have romantic preferences, which result from turn-ons (dark hair, formal ware), turn-offs (stench, workout uniforms), astrological signs and life goals. Sims that have chemistry with each other have little lightning bolts near their names. Likewise, Sims can now have antipathy towards each other just based on their personal makeup. Sims with x'd out lightning bolts will have a harder time than normal having a successful relationship. In practice, the chemistry is just another addition that makes it easier to max out relationships between two Sims.
These like/dislike values play a large role in the life of the Pleasure Seeker Sim, a new life aspiration you can create Sims with. Pleasure Seekers want parties, fast cars, steamy dates, and expensive toys. The Pleasure Seeker Sim I made ("Hef") was a pain in the butt to keep happy. Most of the things that give him happiness are either expensive or require a lot of work to accomplish. As a counterpoint, the Pleasure Seeker isn't very good at living in the normal world. They have a hard time with jobs and chores, making them terrible room-mates. Pleasure Seeker Sims might be an interesting addition to a well developed neighborhood, full of rich families, but for a starter Sim they're just not practical.
A mainstay of Sims expansions are the objects. Adding new objects to your purchasing repertoire is always a goal for a Sims player, and "Nightlife" fulfills that goal admirably. The downtown areas come with a plethora of new objects specifically for dates and group gatherings, like the bowling alley or the restaurant host stand. There are many handsome new objects that are used in the new venues that can be purchased for home use as well. My personal favorite is the karaoke machine, which is a great group activity and painful to watch to boot. "Nightlife" even introduces a new type of object for Simlish consumption: the car. Sims can now have garages and vehicles, adding yet another layer of realism to the game and making traveling to out-of-the-house locations quicker. All aspects of car culture are there in car ownership: listening to music, tooling around for fun, and more amorous activities as well. While every Sim, it seems, ends up wanting to own a car as a life goal at some point they're not absolutely critical. For the most part they're simply convenient for the player who wants to wring every minute out of the SimCity day.
Practical additions, like vehicles, aren't the only features "Nightlife" offers. One completely useless feature the expansion adds is a vampire Sim-type. Vampires can now be found prowling around SimCity, and if you go looking for them you can get your own Sims turned into the restless undead. Unfortunately, it sounds cooler than it really is. Aside from turning other Sims into vampires and transforming into a bat, the amusement factor is sort of limited. Vampire Sims become quite nocturnal, making it difficult to participate in normal jobs and raising family members. The new "type" of Sim idea is interesting, but as far as this expansion goes doesn't see a lot of real use.
There isn't anything here that will shock a current owner, and likely doesn't have any features that might convince a non-player to purchase the game. That said, "Nightlife" is another solid expansion for the now venerable series. It adds on extremely useful systems to the game, opens up new possibilities for gameplay, and incorporates the ever-important new object sets into the title. "Nightlife" gameplay adds a lot of potential to the already entertaining Sims 2. Folks who don't already own the game would probably be best advised just to buy the basic game to make sure they enjoy the gameplay before dropping another $30 for this expansion. For a veteran Sims 2 player who has already tired of college life, though, a night on the town may be just what you need.
Where's the hot coffee? That'd get me to at least download Sims2 and give it a whirl! ;)
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It totally reminds me of this fanatsy blog I read all the time. anyway, I know it's a bit of a different subject, but the intention seems to be the same.
> out-and-about addition incorporates much of the "Hot Date"
> material from the original game, with a generous helping of extras.
Let's just not go there with the oot-and-aboot stuff. The last thing I need is to imagine a bunch of flappy-headed Canadian Sims, and the notions of "hot date", or worse, "hot coffee", all conflated in something that sounds like Greater Toronto Area: Sim City.
But as long as it's too late for my mind to escape the pain, I may as well share it with you.
Is this really a review of an addon for a game that is waay over exposed and played by millions of people?
Is it really worthy of a review??
If its a paid review, I'd understand, but, really, there are much better new (and full) games to review.
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
Does this review of yet-another-game-in-a-franchise really belong on the main page of slashdot? I mean, I like gaming news, I'm an avid gamer, but this isn't a new or innovative title. How is this frontline news-for-nerds?
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An original, seven expansions, a sequel, and two expansions.
NOW we get one of the most requested features.
And people keep buyin'
The best part of the Sims 2 is that my wife can't tell me that I play the computer too much, 'cuz I'll never catch up to her playtime anymore. :^)
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I wish they would stop beating around the bush and just give the people what they damn well know what they want online, hardcore simulated sex!!!
Do they have a Hot Coffee mod for Nightlife? I ask purely for... uhhh.. curiosity's sake. Yeah, that's it.
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I recently visited a friend and while he and his wife were at work during a rainy day, I stayed at home and played The Sims 2 on his PC. I have to tell you, I couldn't get into it. I played it for a couple of hours, waiting for the fun to start and it never happened. This isn't meant to be a troll post, just my $0.02. The thing is, the game felt like work to me. Managing the lives of these characters was really a pain, and it just felt like it was just keeping me busy instead of actually entertaining me. I used to love to play Sim City ironically, but this one I just couldn't get into. Anybody else agree with me on this one?
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"All aspects of car culture are there in car ownership: listening to music, tooling around for fun, and more amorous activities as well."
What about license and registration renewals, car inspections, insurance payments, getting ripped off by mechanics, spiraling fuel costs, and getting into accidents?
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I can't wait for the next expansion...Sims 2, the Morning After, including fun mini-games like where's my f*cking coffee and who the hell are you?
Only on slashdot could such a comment be modded insightful.
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Zonk has been reviewing so many games that aren't so much games but addictions. So is he getting his Sims drunk rather than reviewing stories for grammer for falsehoods? Petting his Nintendog whilst posting a dupe? ;)
Zonk, you've got some 'splaining to do
Ignore the rantings above. Poster is an idiot.
Someone needs to make a Sin City redux of Sim City. That would be significantly more entertaining.
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
Man, we thought Hot Coffee was bad. Now that Nightlife is installed Sims will gleefully Make Woohoo (have sex) 4 or 5 times on a single date. In the bed, in the car, in the hot tub, in the change booth in the clothing store, in the photo booth... there's no stopping these sims. They're like rabbits.
Now if only I can make it so that my vampire can have sex in his coffin... My new house was too small for both the coffin *and* a double bed...
It seems that if people dont like the game/expansion its not worth the review.
I will say one thing for Nightlife. I found the original Sims "Hot Date" expansion frustrating and just downright not fun to play. You had no real idea what you were doing right and wrong, and this seems to have been fixed in the latest version. You're able to see your dates wants and fears, and these are changed to stuff that's fairly easy to do on a date (eat out, tickle etc) so keeping your date happy is fairly easy. (Remember you can influence people to do stuff to you, which sometimes they want)
Now if only on real dates we could have a list of four different things that would make our dates happy, updated as the dates progressed...
Going on dates, attractiveness between sims, extra options are actually the main draw for Sims 2 fans here..namely my wife who loves that people can get downright pissed at each other now. Extra objects are really a bonus, not the focus IMO.
She was giggling with glee as her bisexual Sim did "woohoo" with another Sim in front of the other Sim's ex, and then the two Sims getting in a fight afterwards.
I think time spent improving my real life dating skills is a much more worth while endeavor.
No thanks!
Man, we thought Hot Coffee was bad. Now that Nightlife is installed Sims will gleefully Make Woohoo (have sex) 4 or 5 times on a single date. In the bed, in the car, in the hot tub, in the change booth in the clothing store, in the photo booth... there's no stopping these sims. They're like rabbits.
.. I get him to do Woo Hoo in a hot tub, he wants to do it in a bed, then he wants to do it in public, and so on.
... plus they REALLY set off the fireworks when they Woo Hoo so I think they'll be good for each other, especially since her Lifetime Goal is to become Chief of Surgery and we all know when the Doctor's Away, the Romance Sim will Play ...).
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Sounds like the character I'm doing in Sims 2 with University add-on
The only thing that I have to look forward to is I'm almost at his Lifetime Goal of doing Woo Hoo with 20 sims, and then he can get married and have a kid, who this time can go to college (he was an F student and grew up before I found the aging off cheat in the gamebook) like his girlfriend did (she was his first public Woo Hoo since I wanted her to feel special and had him burn 2500 aspiration to get engaged to her
Man, what a pain.
I can't imagine wanting to play Nightlife if it makes me have to arrange that even more
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What on earth is casual about The Sims? There is no way you can have fun with this game unless you invest a massive amount of time in it.
It is possibly one of the biggest time sinks ever. At least with World of Warcraft people are actually really enjoying wasting their time.
Someone needs to make a Sin City redux of Sim City. That would be significantly more entertaining.
There is a video cheat that lets you turn the animation to black and white with grainy kind of like in Sin City. You might try playing it with that mod on.
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"A mainstay of Sims expansions are the objects.
"There are many handsome new objects that are used in the new venues that can be purchased for home use as well."
Does this include "Hot coffee" style objects for "home use" as well? New areas of virutal life that have yet to be explored.
I can't wait for the next expansion...Sims 2, the Morning After, including fun mini-games like where's my f*cking coffee and who the hell are you?
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... maybe my sim should take care of his Hygeine score before making breakfast?
So far, they just seem to get dressed and hurry out the door, even when my master chef sim makes a nice omelette breakfast for them
Strange, that
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Big difference here is that Rockstar shipped the "Hot Coffee" content with retail product as I understand it. As shipped, no Sims product has ever had realistic nudity available, with or without third party hacks applied to it.
The third party hack to remove the censor effect/pixelation that appears over nude sims reveals Barbie/Ken doll nudity with no female nipples/pubic hair/genitalia whatsoever.... There are third party mesh/texture packs that will add the above features to the naked sims Maxis actually shipped but all of this is entirely third party and outside of Maxis/EA Games sphere of control (or responsibility, IMO) unless they decide to take out the ability to import custom content entirely. Even if they made attempts to restrict third party content, it would only be a matter of time before third party hacks were perfected to allow the inclusion of third party content.
This pediphillia claim is complete BS as well, being that no sexual interaction or even flirting between adults and babies/toddlers/children/teenagers is available. One could theoretically produce a hack that would include these types of interactions, but it would be almost as involved as producing the same type of hack for any other game on the market today.
This Jackass Thompson needs to get half a clue before starting his next puritanical crusade designed to maintain his flagging media exposure.
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Dating allows Sims to improve their relationship by attempting a 'dream date' at romantic locations like parks, restaurants, and bowling alleys.
Its not all that often you get to see a bowling alley described as "romantic".
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...'hardcore' gaming and 'hardcore' violence. There are plenty of non-violent games that can suck you into your computer for extended periods of what I would call 'hardcore' gaming.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
They don't put violence in video games because its meaningless, it obviously attracts an audience and increases sales.
But can I shoot people? Take a stroll through hookerville? Hang out at a strip joint?
What's the fun of a virtual life that's just like normal life? Give it some edge. Go to the bar, catch a great show, have fun with the buds, and run a 10% chance of getting gunned down! 40% chance of bar brawls breaking out, 30% chance of getting arrested, 15% chance of getting laid, etc.
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
What century are you from where having sex with three people over the course of a lifetime makes one a "virtual slut"?
You'd think that somebody sitting down to write a simulation would deal with contention issues first off.
What pisses me off the most is that they never released a patch for the University expansion set... with all the bugs that were included (in particular, a nasty bag that left invisible kick bags all over the place and made houses mostly unsuable.)
I still fret when I see my sims start a game of kicky bag.
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I dunno, I've taken a date to a bowling alley.
She was 18 and wanted to play pool (you gotta be 21 to get into a bar in this state). It might not have been all that romantic, but we had a lot of fun.
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So, where's the Torrent? ;)
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But staring a simulation to see how the character you created will play for you, in the house you designed for him, within the limited options of the game, and with no obvious objectives/victory conditions, does not sound productive or fun at all.
Say you play a RTS game, waste a good 1 hour developing your bases and armies in an online play, you win/lose get an allied victory/ or whatever. The objectives are obvious, and fun.
However with this "game", rather simulation, its like looking at a bunch of rats you PROGRAMMED to behave a certain way, and basically see how far the dev team's creativity goes...
Instead REAL games allow the player to make up his own strategy, and thus creativity.
I've watched someone play this "game", tried it myself for the hell of it.
The result was to simply get bored after a while, since I don't have any fake consumeristic tensions (that is seeing my character earn more and get more STUFF)
Instead I went off to continue on with reading a book that inspires me in creating my own world.
Unlike this "game" and most games, Etheria, my dream world, is about the players and not so much the designers.
Thats what "I" always wanted to do in a game, that is my own thing, not blantantly, but within the laws and concept of the game, but without any fake limitations.
I know what you'll say, it can't be perfect, a game run by the players, where the only thing staff does is run a plot to mark them their own towns/cities/empires.
But at least, if nothing else, instead of wasting my time looking at a sim, I play MYSELF, muhahaha, -creating another world for people to lose themselves in.
True, it can't be perfect, because game mechanics will never be perfect, however why should that stop us or our creativity? Whatever mechanics can't make up or, RP can!
Within the contexts of the world though, since in the "real" world sadly you can't fly around on a dragon, thus wouldn't want to see anyone thinking that'd be possible in my world either! :P
You can have fun with real variables, true! Hence, the sims, but-- only if you could actually really take over that character, and break the limitations.
Sims are getting ridiculous, I wonder when will the ax murdering sims come out.
Personally, I find it a bit disturbing when you get the people who spend hours getting the sim to look just like the other person, then have them burn to death. ^_^ It does lead to the occasional amusing incident, like the time a girl I knew in high school rang me up, and accused me of knocking her up. Seems she built Sims resembling various people in her life. For some reason, the sims representing me and her kept hooking up and suddenly there's spawnage.
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Third party hacks? It's an in-game console command, something along the lines of "intprop SetCensorSize 0" or so.
As for the claims of pedophelia, I know there are third-party mods for teenagers (which would technically be ephebophilia IIRC) to WooHoo, including teen pregnancy patches, but again, that's third-party and it only works because there isn't anything shown in these scenes.
I agree that this fellow is silly, although I know some parents are simply annoyed at the availability of "woohoo" in-game although personally I think most are annoyed at not having noticed until 6 months after buying the game for their teenage daughter.
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IIRC, reviews of that game complained about how little there was to see in it. Perhaps "7 Sins" would be more to your taste? It's still barbie-doll sex (generally with almost all clothes still on), but it's there. Or "Virtual Girl 2" or such Japanese games... Personally, I don't really see how satisfying that type of thing would be, but then again, people in general alternately mystify and horrify me with their life choices.
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Most likely, he's trying to link-spam his website. Google checks Slashdot and actually gives it a pretty decently high pagerank. Unfortunately, he's linked it as "fanatsy", so the only people he'll be getting are bad spellers.
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Really, I kind of wish they modeled more parameters than just a few facial parameters, and body pigmentation. Admittedly, if they started adding things like height and breast size, most Slashdotters would probably have 7-foot balloon-festooned amazons walking about paying tribute to their geek avatars.
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