The Dutch voted no to Europe in a referendum, so all the parties ignored it, renamed the treaty and passed it anyway.
The only way to fix the issue is to get rid of the party system and introduce abinding referendum that is then enacted by businessmen who do what they are told and not what they believe.
Because at the core of the fault with the party system is that all politicians believe. Not in a religion but in their ideology and all ideologies are wrong 99% of the time. You can't run a country on the idea of how things should be, you need to run it with how things are. Doesn't matter what you believe in, it is wrong. The free market? Doesn't work without at least some oversight. 5 year plans? Don't work without at least some short term free market system to keep things dynamic.
And you can't change the system because will be to scared of loosing their vote buyer. In the Netherlands the biggest one is the mortage tax deduction. It is a hot potato that could easily turn one of the richest nations on earth into one of the poorest if it collapses but nobody can touch it because any party that dares to even suggest reform will loose the election.
I can just imagine THAT task, your the techie at the hospital and have to sew sensors into a piece of lady clothing. What would you pick? A relatively harmless sports bra that looks like it could be worn as over-clothing or a frilly lacy bra?
Every single female on the staff would make your life a living hell.
Oh and this sports bra could mean you are alive in ten years with both bra's attached. Has you husband seen a loved one with massive surgery trauma, poisoned by chemo and still dying slowly until finally they choke to death in your arms?
Because cures for breast cancer don't work for prostate cancer of course.
But the main reason you don't see the same public attention is that the color for breast cancer is pink. The color for prostate cancer would be?
If you said brown, your the reason there are fewer public benefits, people snicker about the prostate to much. But cancer research isn't split on just curing breast cancer and leaving other cancers be. It is just that if you want to save the jungle, you focus on the fluffy cuddly animals that people want to hug and squeeze and then the ugly animals will have their habitat saved as well.
Donate to breast cancer and save your own ass. And don't snicker.
It is just a little fluff piece, important and good news but what you can't get into a heated debate about this. Nobody could be against this, so it is for Idle because all the comments will be either jokes or praise.
And as someone who lost all members of his family to cancer. Good news everyone!
How about 350 euro's or so for public transport costs, tax-free, while my real costs at 209?
The trick if you ever work internationally is to REALLY compare what you get and what you have to pay for. I have many a job offer from American companies they thought was above market value but didn't include all the standard benefits you get in Holland. And 350 euro's untaxed takes a LOT of taxed salary to make up for.
Freedom of speech is not tested by statements that you agree with, freedom of speech is tested by defending those things that make your blood boil.
Really, watch "The people vs Larry Flint", if you believe in free speech you got to defend a rather obnoxious pervert.
A judgement for what counts as free speech should NEVER include, doesn't offend anyone. If it doesn't offend anyone there isn't even a point to free speech, I can go to North Korea and say ANYTHING at all by that standard, can say ANYTHING I WANT in worsed dictatorshop in the world, as long as I don't upset anyone.
Free speech only has value when I am allowed to say things that someone somewhere finds upsetting. The only reason after all to limit free speech is because someone is offended.
Test case:
I, a non-american visit the US and want to test how the US treats Free Speech for foreigners, can I test that by saying on say ground zero:
Wow, what an amazing building, really show how the US spirit cannot be destroyed by those who hate freedom.
It is speech and I am free to say it, but it is not free speech.
If it doesn't offend anyone, it does not need free speech protection. If it does offend, it does.
Beware any politician who seeks to limit free speech for the sake of convenience. They need watching, preferably through a snipers scope.
Yeah, just like the mainstream media didn't show the Libyans holding up signs protesting the attack on the American embassy, knowing full well they are living in an area controlled by extremists and THESE Muslims were NOT hiding their faces.
No way you could see that on mainstream media.
Pity there are so few of them. But then, religion and strong wills don't go together well.
So, you are saying that Jews are not the subject of jokes in the west? They are and the greatest jokes are told by Jews themselves, they take the piss out of themselves and their religion for a long time, it is one of the defining qualities of Jews in the west.
And if you want a good anti-catholic joke, look no further then catholics, they know a ton and will happily tell them, they too have plenty of self-ridicule or do you REALLY think any Catholic out there doesn't find it hilarious that beavers count as fish?
Protestants laugh about themselves too you just don't see it because they are to stoic to move face muscles.
There have been countless movies made taking the total piss out of religion and the number of deaths because of them is very very low (I can't say for certain nobody has been killed over movies like Life of Brian).
You do know that the simple joke of Moses coming down the mountain (a Jew) and dropping 5 of the 15 commandments would have Muslims (when someone dials-a-riot) up on arms if it was about Mohammad?
There is a large difference between ridiculling even belitteling a group of people and incitement to hatred. Anti-semitism doesn't say Moses raped goats, it says Jews are sub-human. Saying Mohammed is a pedo isn't saying Arabs are sub-human.
Facebook is a privacy nightmare, always has been always will be. Its entire setup is to share your data with others. Not just advertisers but other users. That is its role. It is like saying something into a megaphone and then being surprised others can hear it.
What is its role again? Friend Finder? That is not the role of email. An email service allows to people who know each other already to communicate. Facebook allows you to find people you don't know (or rather that facebook doesn't know you might know or not) and the only way to do that is by sharing data of people who don't know you, with you.
THAT is the privacy hole right there and if you signup to facebook, you signed up to that huge drainage hole of privacy.
People that got things to hide shouldn't join facebook, end of story. And when you are in the closet, you don't join Queer Choirs. Why do you think gays don't want to be forced to stay in the closet? Because they don't want to constantly have to hide their true selfs from everyone and always be afraid of being found out.
Sadly bigoted fathers and others will always be there but sooner or later things would have come out. Or were the girls planning to marry a guy just to keep up appearances? Can't stay in the closet forever.
The Japanese indeed never went after the Jews, specifically. They did however put civilians from conquered territories into labor camps and had their troops rape women and children for relaxation. Not specifically Jews, just anyone really who they had captured.
They did kill millions of Chinese in their holocaust but their generals were not sickened by a little blood so they never bothered with gas chambers.
Still, I don't think that exactly makes them the nice guys of the axis powers.
Urk is a fishing village in Holland known to be part of the bible belt. They were also FIERCE resisters, their fishing vessels carrying many a Jew and downed allied airmen to safety. There reasoning wasn't so much a love of Jews and others they helped to safety but a pigheaded resistance to being told what to do. They knew wrong and right and nazism was wrong, end of story. They were good men, who did do something.
But I wouldn't call them lovers of freedom, just people who when pushed, push back, by instinct. They would also have had nothing to do with mass religion, claiming "protestants" are one group is damn silly. Most consider the people in the next village to be weirdos.
Meanwhile the pope at the time was thought of to be a good man too. He just didn't do anything.
Mussoline and the holocaust were strange bed fellows, it has to be remembered that nazism and facism are not the same thing. And Mussolini was a fascist, not a nazi. He regonized Jews were part of Italy and should be left undisturbed, Jews were members of his party in quite high positions. It is only with the increasing power of Germany that this changed, resulting in Jews being stripped of citizenship rights in 1939.
This was not at all popular with the Italian fascists and the pope even send a strong letter of critism on this. To increasingly appease Hitler, Jews were started to be round up in Italian controlled areas and send to labor camps but Mussonlini until the Italy surrender refused to send them to German controlled extermination camps. The Germans complained that Italy and its territories were becoming a save haven in Europe for Jews.
After Italy surrendered, Mussonlini was freed by the Germans and they took over control over the remaining Italian land and started to put their holocaust plan into action. Italian soldiers who were not captured by Allied forced found themselves improsoned by the Germans, Italy very much became subjegated to full German control and all that entailed.
The role of religion in WW2 is far from clean, but it is not as simple as some Discovery Channel programs would like you to believe.
He said you are a murderer to be. Me too! If only there was some website we could use to keep in contact, maybe share a list of future victims and tips on keep people alive for a long lone time.
In Holland, before prostitution was legalized, the police could and did liberate traffic victims on the mere suspicion of prostitution which was easy to proof. Once the women were out of control of their pimps, they could testify and set free.
Now the police needs evidence that the prostitution is forced for which evidence can only be obtained by the women going to the police which they won't/can't do when they are under control of their pimps.
The logical consequence of making prostitution legal is that it becomes just another job. In socialists countries people get benefits from the state if they can't find a job. A suitable job. If they do get a suitable job offer, they got to take it or lose their benefits.
Your wife, sister, mother, girlfriend looses her job and can't find another one. The job center tells her the local whorehouse has a vacancy. Are you okay she should take it rather then keep claiming benefits?
No?
Then legalizing prostitution is not a simple solution that will fix everything.
As for heavy regulation... most prostitutes are not terribly keen on being known everywhere as a hooker. Would you want your loved one to be known by all official instances and her doctor as a streetwalker as she needs to make ends meet?
The entire problem with it all is that statistically nobody who does the job is proud of it, does it while they have other options, that everyone else looks down on it and that those who buy it don't want to be known for buying it. And you are not going to change society anytime soon. Proof me wrong, bring a hooker home to your mother and put a ring on her finger. Until YOU are capable of doing that, prostitution will remain a shadowy underworld were lives are ruined.
I live in Holland where prostitution is legal, to the extend politicians had to decide on how to treat jobs in the sex industry in regards to job centers and people on benefits having to take any suitable job or loose their benefits. (Decision was that they are allowed to advertise but it can't be mandated as a suitable job or suggested by a consultant helping you to find a job.
The problem is that the happy hooker is a lie, pretty woman is not reality-TV. No mentally stable, non-self-loathing woman with options will choose to be come a prostitute. There is the idea of female students putting themselves through school by selling their body but lets face it, no woman who really has a future would do it, since having a history of being a prostitute will hurt your career and social future.
Be honest, would you date a hooker? Marry her? No? Well there you go.
There are women who want to be a prostitute but they do it for money/laughs. Problem with that is, they want to make a decent living with it and charge through the nose. High class escort really just means "you expect WHAT per hour", they don't come cheap. I know, I made websites for them. Think 2000 euro per night and then extra for extra's. These are NOT the women who walk the streets. Hell, some escorts even are picky as to who they take as clients. Do you think a street walker or a woman working behind the glass in Amsterdam has such options?
The reality of most prostitution is that the women has to do anything that any john asks and lets face it, nice guys don't use street hookers. And you might think a slut as being a woman who has men in the high double digits. For a hooker? Closing in on 4 digits. Think about it. Say it is 100 per fuck (a very high price). A developer might charge the same but can do it for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, all your long. That is 2016 johns in a year, just to get the same income as a crappy web developer. Remember, if prostitution is legal, you have to pay the same taxes as any other self employed person. You can do web development in a cheap t-shirt and jeans. An expensive hooker needs more expensive clothes.
And all the time, she risks some insane person coming along and killing her off. Really want the most dangerous job in the world? Prostitution, the favorite target of serial killers.
The simple fact is that in Holland, with legal prostition, human trafficking for the sex trade hasn't dropped at all. That is because the amount of Dutch women who have decent social protection who choose prostitution to make their living is far to low and isn't serving the low end of the market. You don't think a college girl putting herself through school who has any reason to want that diploma is going to work several johns a day for what amounts to minimum wage after they payed their pimp for protection and all the other costs?
The porn industry is probably better known on Slashdot, check income. (and remember, this is income of a self-employed person so the prices are pre-taxes with no benefits) of actresses, the majority not the statistically insignificant few who made it to the top. A picture shoot earns as little as a few hundred, maybe 500 if she does all the site asks. A VHS tape might earn 1-2 thousand back in the day. If you are self-employed in IT, would you even bother answering the phone for such amounts? Especially knowing that the porn industry is always looking for fresh faces, so it is not as if you can do 5 shoots per day, every working day of the year.
Yes, I know, cases such as this show rather decent amounts of money being made. They are the exception, same as some programmers on Wall Street make 1 million dollars or more. Do you make 1 million dollars or more? No? Well, then you are the street walker, no the high class pretty woman escort.
I am not saying making prostitution illegal is the answer but making it legal in Holland has not magically fixed everything. In fact, in some ways it has become worse. It used to be possible for the police to liberate women who were
If you read the article and thought the person was white, people would be outraged. But he isn't, so he can say things others can't. And that may not be racism strictly speaking but its wrong.
Are soldiers to blame for acting out the orders of the leaders? The idea in the west with REAL soldiers is that any western soldier has the duty to question his superiors if they order him to do something that is against higher laws. This is at least what I was told when I was drafted, it is in the dutch soldier manual.
So... what about mobs? Is the mob incited by a leader responsible for their actions?
What about a payed mob? Many arab protest are of the dial-a-riot variaty, there is nothing spontaneous about them. They are organized by leaders who decide NOW is the moment to take offense and find something to take offense at. Protests have been held over decades old material OR material so obscure it is unlike to have been found by accident by the protesters.
But lets go further. Where does reponsibility end when it comes time for collective punishment.
It is very PC to cry over the poor victims of Dresden and Hiroschima. Countless innocent children died who weren't even old enough to know the world outside their garden let alone know the politics of the world. But how many of the women who burned and died had cheered their troops? Had hugged their mass murdering sons?
Part of the crew of the Titanic accepted a reward/bribe for rescuing passengers, this was an outrageous thing to do and over of the mothers of the crew slew the door shut in her sons face when he came home and refused to ever speak with him. How many mothers of SS soldiers, Japanse child raping infantry and Islam terrorists have done the same? The father of the muslim who killed 3 French soldiers and 2 jewish kids, didn't even apologize but instead sued the french state for killing his son.
I am not reponsible for the actions of others, in my eyes, goes only so far. If you go to the same church as someone who does something you disagree with, you have to take action, either leave that church or bar that person but you can't just shrug your shoulders and claim the others actions shouldn't reflect on you.
Many talk about the hate of Muslims in the west but so far, Muslims deaths at the hands of white westerners is a fraction of westerners killed by muslims.
Terrorism is not isolated to Muslims but in other parts of the world, what has happened is that the people part of the terrorist group started to protest, held marches to condemn the violence to show they were not supporting it. Often at great danger to themselves.
There have only tiny handful of muslims who publicly showed on their own accord in front of their own people, that the terrorists were not acting in their name.
Plenty hold that every US citizen deserved the 9/11 attack becsuse of US actions. None of these people believe that ALL Muslims deserve the Iraq/Afghan war for Muslims terrorist actions.
Ultimately these people are racists. White people are responsible for the action of their society. Muslims are not responsible for the actions of their society.
The guards at auswitch were just living day by day, so was the baker delivering their bread. So were their families.
All that evil needs to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.
And Muslims do nothing. Many support through donations questionably charities and claim to be innocent because they don't know were the money goes because they don't ask.
Where does innocence end?
I never kept slaves, neither did any of my family, so all blacks in the world should just shut up about slavery because I just want live my live.
In Harlem the guardian angels appeared who said "no, we can't keep blaming others for our troubles, it is black people suffering from black crime, so WE blacks need to do something about it."
I know the popular opinion is to cry over the bomb victims of Dresden en Horishima but I wonder how many of those killed cheered their mass murdering sons and patted them on their backs and told them to kill a few more lesser races. I don't believe in innocence through inaction. When your tribe misbehaves, you leave that tribe or fix that tribe or get treated the same as the rest of your tribe. Three choices. Pick one.
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The Dutch voted no to Europe in a referendum, so all the parties ignored it, renamed the treaty and passed it anyway.
The only way to fix the issue is to get rid of the party system and introduce abinding referendum that is then enacted by businessmen who do what they are told and not what they believe.
Because at the core of the fault with the party system is that all politicians believe. Not in a religion but in their ideology and all ideologies are wrong 99% of the time. You can't run a country on the idea of how things should be, you need to run it with how things are. Doesn't matter what you believe in, it is wrong. The free market? Doesn't work without at least some oversight. 5 year plans? Don't work without at least some short term free market system to keep things dynamic.
And you can't change the system because will be to scared of loosing their vote buyer. In the Netherlands the biggest one is the mortage tax deduction. It is a hot potato that could easily turn one of the richest nations on earth into one of the poorest if it collapses but nobody can touch it because any party that dares to even suggest reform will loose the election.
I can just imagine THAT task, your the techie at the hospital and have to sew sensors into a piece of lady clothing. What would you pick? A relatively harmless sports bra that looks like it could be worn as over-clothing or a frilly lacy bra?
Every single female on the staff would make your life a living hell.
Oh and this sports bra could mean you are alive in ten years with both bra's attached. Has you husband seen a loved one with massive surgery trauma, poisoned by chemo and still dying slowly until finally they choke to death in your arms?
No? Then SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Because cures for breast cancer don't work for prostate cancer of course.
But the main reason you don't see the same public attention is that the color for breast cancer is pink. The color for prostate cancer would be?
If you said brown, your the reason there are fewer public benefits, people snicker about the prostate to much. But cancer research isn't split on just curing breast cancer and leaving other cancers be. It is just that if you want to save the jungle, you focus on the fluffy cuddly animals that people want to hug and squeeze and then the ugly animals will have their habitat saved as well.
Donate to breast cancer and save your own ass. And don't snicker.
It is just a little fluff piece, important and good news but what you can't get into a heated debate about this. Nobody could be against this, so it is for Idle because all the comments will be either jokes or praise.
And as someone who lost all members of his family to cancer. Good news everyone!
How about 350 euro's or so for public transport costs, tax-free, while my real costs at 209?
The trick if you ever work internationally is to REALLY compare what you get and what you have to pay for. I have many a job offer from American companies they thought was above market value but didn't include all the standard benefits you get in Holland. And 350 euro's untaxed takes a LOT of taxed salary to make up for.
Freedom of speech is not tested by statements that you agree with, freedom of speech is tested by defending those things that make your blood boil.
Really, watch "The people vs Larry Flint", if you believe in free speech you got to defend a rather obnoxious pervert.
A judgement for what counts as free speech should NEVER include, doesn't offend anyone. If it doesn't offend anyone there isn't even a point to free speech, I can go to North Korea and say ANYTHING at all by that standard, can say ANYTHING I WANT in worsed dictatorshop in the world, as long as I don't upset anyone.
Free speech only has value when I am allowed to say things that someone somewhere finds upsetting. The only reason after all to limit free speech is because someone is offended.
Test case:
I, a non-american visit the US and want to test how the US treats Free Speech for foreigners, can I test that by saying on say ground zero:
Wow, what an amazing building, really show how the US spirit cannot be destroyed by those who hate freedom.
It is speech and I am free to say it, but it is not free speech.
If it doesn't offend anyone, it does not need free speech protection. If it does offend, it does.
Beware any politician who seeks to limit free speech for the sake of convenience. They need watching, preferably through a snipers scope.
I notice you don't counter my argument mere attack individual sentences on details not the general message.
The true hallmark of a person with no original thought of his own. Go away and grow a spine.
I am from outside the USA, Holland.
If you had any brains you would know I was making a hypothetical example, not describing how things are.
You really should stop using your iPhone, Karachi is NOT in England.
How many were killed over that movie?
Well?
Yeah, just like the mainstream media didn't show the Libyans holding up signs protesting the attack on the American embassy, knowing full well they are living in an area controlled by extremists and THESE Muslims were NOT hiding their faces.
No way you could see that on mainstream media.
Pity there are so few of them. But then, religion and strong wills don't go together well.
Tell them this: "All that is needed for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing".
Then link them to story of Walala.
Then ask them what they are doing.
Then ask them if they consider themselves good men/muslims.
I know, she is a good fuck.
God.
So, you are saying that Jews are not the subject of jokes in the west? They are and the greatest jokes are told by Jews themselves, they take the piss out of themselves and their religion for a long time, it is one of the defining qualities of Jews in the west.
And if you want a good anti-catholic joke, look no further then catholics, they know a ton and will happily tell them, they too have plenty of self-ridicule or do you REALLY think any Catholic out there doesn't find it hilarious that beavers count as fish?
Protestants laugh about themselves too you just don't see it because they are to stoic to move face muscles.
There have been countless movies made taking the total piss out of religion and the number of deaths because of them is very very low (I can't say for certain nobody has been killed over movies like Life of Brian).
You do know that the simple joke of Moses coming down the mountain (a Jew) and dropping 5 of the 15 commandments would have Muslims (when someone dials-a-riot) up on arms if it was about Mohammad?
There is a large difference between ridiculling even belitteling a group of people and incitement to hatred. Anti-semitism doesn't say Moses raped goats, it says Jews are sub-human. Saying Mohammed is a pedo isn't saying Arabs are sub-human.
Also in London, a 14 year old girl fighting for her life after a Muslim put a bullet in her brain because she wanted to go school.
Lets count the number of British Imams condemning the Muslims who attacked her, lets count the number marching on the streets in protest.
What more needs to be said.
Whatever happened to, "just say no".
If your friends jumped of a bridge, would you?
Facebook is a privacy nightmare, always has been always will be. Its entire setup is to share your data with others. Not just advertisers but other users. That is its role. It is like saying something into a megaphone and then being surprised others can hear it.
What is its role again? Friend Finder? That is not the role of email. An email service allows to people who know each other already to communicate. Facebook allows you to find people you don't know (or rather that facebook doesn't know you might know or not) and the only way to do that is by sharing data of people who don't know you, with you.
THAT is the privacy hole right there and if you signup to facebook, you signed up to that huge drainage hole of privacy.
People that got things to hide shouldn't join facebook, end of story. And when you are in the closet, you don't join Queer Choirs. Why do you think gays don't want to be forced to stay in the closet? Because they don't want to constantly have to hide their true selfs from everyone and always be afraid of being found out.
Sadly bigoted fathers and others will always be there but sooner or later things would have come out. Or were the girls planning to marry a guy just to keep up appearances? Can't stay in the closet forever.
The Japanese indeed never went after the Jews, specifically. They did however put civilians from conquered territories into labor camps and had their troops rape women and children for relaxation. Not specifically Jews, just anyone really who they had captured.
They did kill millions of Chinese in their holocaust but their generals were not sickened by a little blood so they never bothered with gas chambers.
Still, I don't think that exactly makes them the nice guys of the axis powers.
Urk is a fishing village in Holland known to be part of the bible belt. They were also FIERCE resisters, their fishing vessels carrying many a Jew and downed allied airmen to safety. There reasoning wasn't so much a love of Jews and others they helped to safety but a pigheaded resistance to being told what to do. They knew wrong and right and nazism was wrong, end of story. They were good men, who did do something.
But I wouldn't call them lovers of freedom, just people who when pushed, push back, by instinct. They would also have had nothing to do with mass religion, claiming "protestants" are one group is damn silly. Most consider the people in the next village to be weirdos.
Meanwhile the pope at the time was thought of to be a good man too. He just didn't do anything.
Mussoline and the holocaust were strange bed fellows, it has to be remembered that nazism and facism are not the same thing. And Mussolini was a fascist, not a nazi. He regonized Jews were part of Italy and should be left undisturbed, Jews were members of his party in quite high positions. It is only with the increasing power of Germany that this changed, resulting in Jews being stripped of citizenship rights in 1939.
This was not at all popular with the Italian fascists and the pope even send a strong letter of critism on this. To increasingly appease Hitler, Jews were started to be round up in Italian controlled areas and send to labor camps but Mussonlini until the Italy surrender refused to send them to German controlled extermination camps. The Germans complained that Italy and its territories were becoming a save haven in Europe for Jews.
After Italy surrendered, Mussonlini was freed by the Germans and they took over control over the remaining Italian land and started to put their holocaust plan into action. Italian soldiers who were not captured by Allied forced found themselves improsoned by the Germans, Italy very much became subjegated to full German control and all that entailed.
The role of religion in WW2 is far from clean, but it is not as simple as some Discovery Channel programs would like you to believe.
He said you are a murderer to be. Me too! If only there was some website we could use to keep in contact, maybe share a list of future victims and tips on keep people alive for a long lone time.
Here is my list:
1. Dekker3D
2. Everyone else
In Holland, before prostitution was legalized, the police could and did liberate traffic victims on the mere suspicion of prostitution which was easy to proof. Once the women were out of control of their pimps, they could testify and set free.
Now the police needs evidence that the prostitution is forced for which evidence can only be obtained by the women going to the police which they won't/can't do when they are under control of their pimps.
The logical consequence of making prostitution legal is that it becomes just another job. In socialists countries people get benefits from the state if they can't find a job. A suitable job. If they do get a suitable job offer, they got to take it or lose their benefits.
Your wife, sister, mother, girlfriend looses her job and can't find another one. The job center tells her the local whorehouse has a vacancy. Are you okay she should take it rather then keep claiming benefits?
No?
Then legalizing prostitution is not a simple solution that will fix everything.
As for heavy regulation... most prostitutes are not terribly keen on being known everywhere as a hooker. Would you want your loved one to be known by all official instances and her doctor as a streetwalker as she needs to make ends meet?
The entire problem with it all is that statistically nobody who does the job is proud of it, does it while they have other options, that everyone else looks down on it and that those who buy it don't want to be known for buying it. And you are not going to change society anytime soon. Proof me wrong, bring a hooker home to your mother and put a ring on her finger. Until YOU are capable of doing that, prostitution will remain a shadowy underworld were lives are ruined.
I live in Holland where prostitution is legal, to the extend politicians had to decide on how to treat jobs in the sex industry in regards to job centers and people on benefits having to take any suitable job or loose their benefits. (Decision was that they are allowed to advertise but it can't be mandated as a suitable job or suggested by a consultant helping you to find a job.
The problem is that the happy hooker is a lie, pretty woman is not reality-TV. No mentally stable, non-self-loathing woman with options will choose to be come a prostitute. There is the idea of female students putting themselves through school by selling their body but lets face it, no woman who really has a future would do it, since having a history of being a prostitute will hurt your career and social future.
Be honest, would you date a hooker? Marry her? No? Well there you go.
There are women who want to be a prostitute but they do it for money/laughs. Problem with that is, they want to make a decent living with it and charge through the nose. High class escort really just means "you expect WHAT per hour", they don't come cheap. I know, I made websites for them. Think 2000 euro per night and then extra for extra's. These are NOT the women who walk the streets. Hell, some escorts even are picky as to who they take as clients. Do you think a street walker or a woman working behind the glass in Amsterdam has such options?
The reality of most prostitution is that the women has to do anything that any john asks and lets face it, nice guys don't use street hookers. And you might think a slut as being a woman who has men in the high double digits. For a hooker? Closing in on 4 digits. Think about it. Say it is 100 per fuck (a very high price). A developer might charge the same but can do it for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, all your long. That is 2016 johns in a year, just to get the same income as a crappy web developer. Remember, if prostitution is legal, you have to pay the same taxes as any other self employed person. You can do web development in a cheap t-shirt and jeans. An expensive hooker needs more expensive clothes.
And all the time, she risks some insane person coming along and killing her off. Really want the most dangerous job in the world? Prostitution, the favorite target of serial killers.
The simple fact is that in Holland, with legal prostition, human trafficking for the sex trade hasn't dropped at all. That is because the amount of Dutch women who have decent social protection who choose prostitution to make their living is far to low and isn't serving the low end of the market. You don't think a college girl putting herself through school who has any reason to want that diploma is going to work several johns a day for what amounts to minimum wage after they payed their pimp for protection and all the other costs?
The porn industry is probably better known on Slashdot, check income. (and remember, this is income of a self-employed person so the prices are pre-taxes with no benefits) of actresses, the majority not the statistically insignificant few who made it to the top. A picture shoot earns as little as a few hundred, maybe 500 if she does all the site asks. A VHS tape might earn 1-2 thousand back in the day. If you are self-employed in IT, would you even bother answering the phone for such amounts? Especially knowing that the porn industry is always looking for fresh faces, so it is not as if you can do 5 shoots per day, every working day of the year.
Yes, I know, cases such as this show rather decent amounts of money being made. They are the exception, same as some programmers on Wall Street make 1 million dollars or more. Do you make 1 million dollars or more? No? Well, then you are the street walker, no the high class pretty woman escort.
I am not saying making prostitution illegal is the answer but making it legal in Holland has not magically fixed everything. In fact, in some ways it has become worse. It used to be possible for the police to liberate women who were
Yes I am aware.
Are you aware what sarcasm means?
If you read the article and thought the person was white, people would be outraged. But he isn't, so he can say things others can't. And that may not be racism strictly speaking but its wrong.
Are soldiers to blame for acting out the orders of the leaders? The idea in the west with REAL soldiers is that any western soldier has the duty to question his superiors if they order him to do something that is against higher laws. This is at least what I was told when I was drafted, it is in the dutch soldier manual.
So... what about mobs? Is the mob incited by a leader responsible for their actions?
What about a payed mob? Many arab protest are of the dial-a-riot variaty, there is nothing spontaneous about them. They are organized by leaders who decide NOW is the moment to take offense and find something to take offense at. Protests have been held over decades old material OR material so obscure it is unlike to have been found by accident by the protesters.
But lets go further. Where does reponsibility end when it comes time for collective punishment.
It is very PC to cry over the poor victims of Dresden and Hiroschima. Countless innocent children died who weren't even old enough to know the world outside their garden let alone know the politics of the world. But how many of the women who burned and died had cheered their troops? Had hugged their mass murdering sons?
Part of the crew of the Titanic accepted a reward/bribe for rescuing passengers, this was an outrageous thing to do and over of the mothers of the crew slew the door shut in her sons face when he came home and refused to ever speak with him. How many mothers of SS soldiers, Japanse child raping infantry and Islam terrorists have done the same? The father of the muslim who killed 3 French soldiers and 2 jewish kids, didn't even apologize but instead sued the french state for killing his son.
I am not reponsible for the actions of others, in my eyes, goes only so far. If you go to the same church as someone who does something you disagree with, you have to take action, either leave that church or bar that person but you can't just shrug your shoulders and claim the others actions shouldn't reflect on you.
Many talk about the hate of Muslims in the west but so far, Muslims deaths at the hands of white westerners is a fraction of westerners killed by muslims.
Terrorism is not isolated to Muslims but in other parts of the world, what has happened is that the people part of the terrorist group started to protest, held marches to condemn the violence to show they were not supporting it. Often at great danger to themselves.
There have only tiny handful of muslims who publicly showed on their own accord in front of their own people, that the terrorists were not acting in their name.
Plenty hold that every US citizen deserved the 9/11 attack becsuse of US actions. None of these people believe that ALL Muslims deserve the Iraq/Afghan war for Muslims terrorist actions.
Ultimately these people are racists. White people are responsible for the action of their society. Muslims are not responsible for the actions of their society.
I don't think that attitude is right.
The guards at auswitch were just living day by day, so was the baker delivering their bread. So were their families.
All that evil needs to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.
And Muslims do nothing. Many support through donations questionably charities and claim to be innocent because they don't know were the money goes because they don't ask.
Where does innocence end?
I never kept slaves, neither did any of my family, so all blacks in the world should just shut up about slavery because I just want live my live.
In Harlem the guardian angels appeared who said "no, we can't keep blaming others for our troubles, it is black people suffering from black crime, so WE blacks need to do something about it."
I know the popular opinion is to cry over the bomb victims of Dresden en Horishima but I wonder how many of those killed cheered their mass murdering sons and patted them on their backs and told them to kill a few more lesser races. I don't believe in innocence through inaction. When your tribe misbehaves, you leave that tribe or fix that tribe or get treated the same as the rest of your tribe. Three choices. Pick one.