What about the merit of the law in question? How about the atrocious business practices of the record labels, which when taken in the context of just about any other industry would be considered many things including outright theft? They are hiding behind laws that THEY crafted with their hands up a politicians butt like some kind of sock puppet. Not every law is right or just. Anyone who thinks so is naive. You might also say that it is our duty to break laws that infringe are really against the grain of the constitution. I believe that the way the copyright laws are tailored today, they are wrong. I wont bother to go into long winded detail, its not necessary. Thinks stink in this whole business, and its not the downloading of music. Its the big business wielding politicians and the "laws" like a broadsword against the rest of us. Without us, they wouldnt exist, not the other way around.
Are you a frigging moron? If you were in arms reach I would just bitchslap you. If you feed your brood by calling me at home when I didnt ask you to in an innane attempt to sell me something I dont want, then you can all starve. Or you can quit being a frigging moron and get a real job.
For the intellectually impared: You do NOT have the RIGHT to call me when I didnt ask you. If thats the only job you can get, then starve. Heartless? No, absolutely tired of bullshit telemarketing calls.
And there is steady migration FROM group 3 TO group 1 (and maybe group 2 given the economy). Which means they make less money.
I think CDs should be cheaper, but hey, I think everything should be cheaper.
An important question is, who says that anyone has the RIGHT to make money? No one has the right to make money. Who has the right to have their archaic business model continue past its day? No one has that right.
I say that the RIAA and MPAA need to learn how to make money in this day of digital everything. IF they can't figure it out, they should go out of business. This will not deprive anyone of music, just kill off a lot of leeches (music execs). Musicians will still make music, and they will either sell it themselves, or someone else will come along with a great new business model that works in THIS era. Probably one that is a lot more fair to the musicians themselves, I would be willing to bet.
Lets recap: No one has any RIGHT to make money. Got that? They make money because they have a product that people want and are willing to buy, and can deliver it, and have a workable business model. If they aren't able to make fly, they go out of business. Happens all over the world, every day. No one has the right to use the government to protect their revenue stream. Period.
It might be dull or boring, but it is a big thing currently with the RIAA and MPAA on the rampage, trying desperately to hold onto an old outdated business model that is no longer viable in this day and age. They need to get their heads out of their asses and learn a new way of doing business that works today. They can no longer charge what they could per cd. No longer can they blow cash in a stupid manner and make it up on media sales. They need to learn how to, gasp, do business.
OR, they can turn around and wield the sword that is the government to smack down the people. If people sit back and let it happen, they will do it.
This guy making more sense than most people on both sides of this arguement. You should read his last line and think hard on it. Foaming at the mouth Windows Disciples(tm) wear their ignorance like a badge of honor, but by reciprocating you make yourself look pretty silly too.
I love Linux, and have a Linux box. Most of my machines run Windows because it does work for what I need, and when I want to play the latest shrinkwrapped game off the shelf or want to stick the latest piece of hardware in my box it works. Sure it has its flaws, most of them are directly to the company that makes it:) Linux has its flaws too, as well as its great strenghts. The absolute freedom to do what you want with the system is its biggest. My grandmother couldnt work with Linux though, but she could use Windows just fine. I can't believe I just supported Windows. Bleh.
Also remember, competition is good. Repeat to yourself, competition is good. It absolutely drives innovation and refinement above anything else in our society.
Within certain government set safety limits, you can do whatever you want with it. Like someone stated earlier the problem is when you use a hacked version of the Microsoft BIOS on it, that does violate retarded IP laws.
My big problem with this whole discussion is some people seem to be laboring under the misguided conception that just because Microsoft chooses to participate in a market that regularly sells something for less than it costs to make it, on the HOPE that they will make it up on add-ons (software), they have some kind of divine guarantee that those that buy it will actually buy enough games to make it profitable. This is complete and utter garbage. Its pulling the arm on the slot machine. Rolling the dice. They are gambling people. I sob for Microsoft and their R&D investment, I assure you. Let me wipe away a tear here. If I buy an X-Box, which I wont, I will do whatever I want with it. Microsoft can go get humped.
The MOST important difference, though, is that overclocking your processor isn't cicumventing any copyrights, where modding the playstation 2 so it can play copied disks is. Thats why the DMCA would apply to the mod and not the overclock.
I think the DMCA is a bunch of horse patties, but then im also not a rich content mogul intent on protecting my (often arguably immorally gotten) billions either.
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What about the merit of the law in question? How about the atrocious business practices of the record labels, which when taken in the context of just about any other industry would be considered many things including outright theft? They are hiding behind laws that THEY crafted with their hands up a politicians butt like some kind of sock puppet. Not every law is right or just. Anyone who thinks so is naive. You might also say that it is our duty to break laws that infringe are really against the grain of the constitution. I believe that the way the copyright laws are tailored today, they are wrong. I wont bother to go into long winded detail, its not necessary. Thinks stink in this whole business, and its not the downloading of music. Its the big business wielding politicians and the "laws" like a broadsword against the rest of us. Without us, they wouldnt exist, not the other way around.
Are you a frigging moron? If you were in arms reach I would just bitchslap you. If you feed your brood by calling me at home when I didnt ask you to in an innane attempt to sell me something I dont want, then you can all starve. Or you can quit being a frigging moron and get a real job. For the intellectually impared: You do NOT have the RIGHT to call me when I didnt ask you. If thats the only job you can get, then starve. Heartless? No, absolutely tired of bullshit telemarketing calls.
An important question is, who says that anyone has the RIGHT to make money? No one has the right to make money. Who has the right to have their archaic business model continue past its day? No one has that right.
I say that the RIAA and MPAA need to learn how to make money in this day of digital everything. IF they can't figure it out, they should go out of business. This will not deprive anyone of music, just kill off a lot of leeches (music execs). Musicians will still make music, and they will either sell it themselves, or someone else will come along with a great new business model that works in THIS era. Probably one that is a lot more fair to the musicians themselves, I would be willing to bet.
Lets recap: No one has any RIGHT to make money. Got that? They make money because they have a product that people want and are willing to buy, and can deliver it, and have a workable business model. If they aren't able to make fly, they go out of business. Happens all over the world, every day. No one has the right to use the government to protect their revenue stream. Period.
It might be dull or boring, but it is a big thing currently with the RIAA and MPAA on the rampage, trying desperately to hold onto an old outdated business model that is no longer viable in this day and age. They need to get their heads out of their asses and learn a new way of doing business that works today. They can no longer charge what they could per cd. No longer can they blow cash in a stupid manner and make it up on media sales. They need to learn how to, gasp, do business.
OR, they can turn around and wield the sword that is the government to smack down the people. If people sit back and let it happen, they will do it.
Bleh, it stripped out all of my paragraphs when I posted that. I hate it when posts amplify my natural ignorance :)
This guy making more sense than most people on both sides of this arguement. You should read his last line and think hard on it. Foaming at the mouth Windows Disciples(tm) wear their ignorance like a badge of honor, but by reciprocating you make yourself look pretty silly too. I love Linux, and have a Linux box. Most of my machines run Windows because it does work for what I need, and when I want to play the latest shrinkwrapped game off the shelf or want to stick the latest piece of hardware in my box it works. Sure it has its flaws, most of them are directly to the company that makes it :) Linux has its flaws too, as well as its great strenghts. The absolute freedom to do what you want with the system is its biggest. My grandmother couldnt work with Linux though, but she could use Windows just fine. I can't believe I just supported Windows. Bleh.
Also remember, competition is good. Repeat to yourself, competition is good. It absolutely drives innovation and refinement above anything else in our society.
Well I wanted to drop you some email, but I couldnt find your email anywhere. :)
Within certain government set safety limits, you can do whatever you want with it. Like someone stated earlier the problem is when you use a hacked version of the Microsoft BIOS on it, that does violate retarded IP laws.
My big problem with this whole discussion is some people seem to be laboring under the misguided conception that just because Microsoft chooses to participate in a market that regularly sells something for less than it costs to make it, on the HOPE that they will make it up on add-ons (software), they have some kind of divine guarantee that those that buy it will actually buy enough games to make it profitable. This is complete and utter garbage. Its pulling the arm on the slot machine. Rolling the dice. They are gambling people. I sob for Microsoft and their R&D investment, I assure you. Let me wipe away a tear here. If I buy an X-Box, which I wont, I will do whatever I want with it. Microsoft can go get humped.
The MOST important difference, though, is that overclocking your processor isn't cicumventing any copyrights, where modding the playstation 2 so it can play copied disks is. Thats why the DMCA would apply to the mod and not the overclock.
I think the DMCA is a bunch of horse patties, but then im also not a rich content mogul intent on protecting my (often arguably immorally gotten) billions either.
Doh, forgot to log in :) That was me, just in case you have any desire to know who the smart ass is.
Since they have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that 1 sucker = 1 minute, then the question of which is irrelevant.