I think that the point of it is to set up your own private sharing networks (kind of like Waste, but without the whole nullsoft patent thing). That's what I plan to use it for, at least.
The cool thing about MUTE is that you have no idea who your neighbor is, so you can't tell if someone is sitting right next to you. All that nodes know is that a packet from bob came from neighbor node x. You don't know if that packet from bob originated with that neighbor node or not. All that you know is packets addressed to bob should be passed to that neighbor node. So basically, you don't know that bob is your neighbor, you just know that bob is somewhere in that direction. Bob may or may not be your neighbor. That's a poor explanation, they do a better job in the docs.
Everyone is commenting that the sys-admins should have updated their systems. The company I work for got railed by the worm, all of our PCs, and all of our servers. Why weren't they patched? Because corporate policy says that we aren't to install service packs, security patches, you name it. We were certainly aware of the security bulletins, we just couldn't do anything about it. Might be about time to start freshening up my resume.
I don't know about you guys, but back in my gaming days (read: freshman year of college), those were the prime hours to be playing, when the real professionals came out. Might explain that 1.0 gpa my first semester... nah.
This will never work. There area few problems that I see with it.
We've seen a number of articles here recently about the weasely (is that a word?) things people are doing to spread spam, such as abusing open mail relays, installing trojans, etc. Who would be held responsible in this case, the owner of the system? If that's the case then there is going to be a severe public backlash when they start hauling grandmothers in for spamming.
Second, what percentage of spam originates in Michigan? Will they be able to press charges against people from other states? Other countries? I don't really see this as being something that could be enforced.
Third, if I were a spammer in Michigan, I'd just set up a computer on the other side of the border, change "corporate headquarters" to that new location, and carry on as before.
I like the idea, but this legislation is never going to work.
A lot of people seem to be missing his point here, saying that "Well, AMD and Intel probably manipulated their results too, but he accepts those." His point isn't that Apple optimized the benchmark so that their system would perform well, his point is that they crippled the competition, turning off important new features. There is no doubt that AMD and Intel had every optimization turned on when they did their tests, and that's fine. The problem that he raises is that Apple disabled the competition in their own tests.
It's too bad the article didn't go into more detail on how these things actually work. It says they use "aided positioning technology", which lets people play without modded cellphones. How does the phone determine which direction it's pointing? Are there plans to install this in the United States? How come the Japanese always get the cool toys first? Does anyone know more about this non-GPS tracking ability? It looks pretty cool.
I think that one big thing they are banking on is the judicial system not knowing a whole helluva lot about the Linux kernel, and Operating Systems in general. People here on/. are pissed over this because we have some idea of what is going on. The Honorable Judge John Doe (or whoever is the judge in this case) probably hasn't spent nearly as much time reading slashdot, kernelnews, or linux journal as we have. He (or she) will gain most of their knowldege through this case, which seems to be to SCO's advantage.
The thing that really stood out to me in the article was the full frontal attack on open source software.
Redesigning Linux for use by demanding business customers "is not technologically feasible or even possible at the enterprise level without (a) a high degree of design coordination, (b) access to expensive and sophisticated design and testing equipment; (c) access to Unix code and development methods; (d) Unix architectural experience; and (e) a very significant financial investment,"
Unless I'm missing something here, they are taking a shot at the Bazaar style of project management, claiming that the only reason that this project management approach works is because of theft. Does it just stop at the kernel, or have other large projects (mySQL, Apache, you name it) been stolen too? There's no way that a bunch of distributed developers could have designed large projects such as these.
On a somewhat related note, does anyone else see a relationship between open-source software development and swarm intelligence?
http://www.sce.carleton.ca/netmanage/tony/swarm.ht ml
This sounds like a rule that will be too difficult to enforce, unless they set up very specific guidelines. You're right, how do you determine that a reply is from a legitimate representative of the company. Can any employee respond? There are too many "if"s here. Hopefully the authentication thing will get in the way of it's being enforced. "I'm sorry I didn't post the company's reply, but I didn't know if it was legitimate or not."
I haven't used ICQ since my freshman year of college 5 years ago, but as soon as I saw those 3 letters, my number came right back to me. But I still can't remember my girlfriend's birthday. Kinda creepy.
It might say something when they port it to FreeBSD before Linux... you would think that Linux would be at the top of the port list. Maybe there's some nasty problem they've run into.
What would be really cool would be to have it support encryption plugins (or modules, pick your noun). If you don't trust the encryption they have built in, write your own and plug it in. I haven't looked at the source code yet, but it's on my todo list for some time today.
No, people in the United States should not have to respect the laws of Italy, if they are in the United States.
I would think a better course of action would have been for the Italian government to prosecute the person who created the offensive and illegal material (since he is an Italian citizen), and ask the server to take the offensive material down. They have absolutely no right to take material off of a server hosted in the United States.
The same applies to kiddie porn. If kiddie porn is created by someone in the United States, that person should be prosecuted. If someone in the United States views kiddie porn, they should be prosecuted. The United States should have no authority to take that information off of a server hosted in another country though. Request it be removed, yes.
It is a disturbing trend when other countries start to enforce their laws across international borders. I sure as hell can't keep track of 160 (I think) different sets of laws.
That is for war crimes though. If I commited a war crime in another country then yes, I should be held accountable for it. If I murder someone in another country, then yes I should be held accountable for it. But if something I do in the United States, which is legal by our standards, happens to offend someone in another country, why should we care. My girlfriend walks around without a veil or whatever over her head, but I don't see us sending her off to Afghanistan to be executed, just becuase it pisses them off. (Or at least it did up until a few months ago). There is a big difference between commiting a war crime and just offending someone.
I'm kind of curious what would happen if the web site's host just put the content back up again, and removed that user name and password. Does the Italian government have any recourse? If some foreign country tried to prosecute me for breaking their laws, I'd tell them to screw themselves. Since I'm not an Italian citizen, is there any reason I should have to obey their laws in the United States? Would the U.S. government let the Italians prosecute me? I would certainly hope not.
And therefore, since hydrogen atoms have a longer lifespan, they can be used. What is the usefulness of something that only exists of a split second?
I'm not going for troll points here (like someone thought), I'm just looking for the purpose of this research. If there is something that can be done with these elements, or if they lead to something useful, then it's a good thing.
Maybe someone can educate me. Why should I care that another element existed for an instant? It's been a long time since my last chemistry class so maybe I've forgotten some things. It just doesn't seem like very useful research.
This is a computerized translation so I can't promise anything... plus I don't speak Norwegian:)
Commonwealth said up Microsoft - agree Commonwealth has said up agreement along with Microsoft as donated dataselskapet ace at to contribute shareware at computers at statlige offices. Debattcentralen: Neat and IT work and Ad administrasjonsminister Overcome D. Norman H ) considers contract of sale along with Microsoft has been adverse. He believing bigger competition able afford cheaper dataløsninger both for commonwealth and consumer. We fancy that it agreement we have had along with Microsoft in actuality rendered Microsoft a monopoly of a ambit how we're served along with to a few competition , say Norman at NRK. Norman believing denunciation at agreement along with Microsoft not only that shall afford cheaper dataløsninger , but also qualitative better solutions. (NTB)
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I think that the point of it is to set up your own private sharing networks (kind of like Waste, but without the whole nullsoft patent thing). That's what I plan to use it for, at least.
The cool thing about MUTE is that you have no idea who your neighbor is, so you can't tell if someone is sitting right next to you. All that nodes know is that a packet from bob came from neighbor node x. You don't know if that packet from bob originated with that neighbor node or not. All that you know is packets addressed to bob should be passed to that neighbor node. So basically, you don't know that bob is your neighbor, you just know that bob is somewhere in that direction. Bob may or may not be your neighbor. That's a poor explanation, they do a better job in the docs.
Everyone is commenting that the sys-admins should have updated their systems. The company I work for got railed by the worm, all of our PCs, and all of our servers. Why weren't they patched? Because corporate policy says that we aren't to install service packs, security patches, you name it. We were certainly aware of the security bulletins, we just couldn't do anything about it. Might be about time to start freshening up my resume.
I don't know about you guys, but back in my gaming days (read: freshman year of college), those were the prime hours to be playing, when the real professionals came out. Might explain that 1.0 gpa my first semester ... nah.
This will never work. There area few problems that I see with it. We've seen a number of articles here recently about the weasely (is that a word?) things people are doing to spread spam, such as abusing open mail relays, installing trojans, etc. Who would be held responsible in this case, the owner of the system? If that's the case then there is going to be a severe public backlash when they start hauling grandmothers in for spamming. Second, what percentage of spam originates in Michigan? Will they be able to press charges against people from other states? Other countries? I don't really see this as being something that could be enforced. Third, if I were a spammer in Michigan, I'd just set up a computer on the other side of the border, change "corporate headquarters" to that new location, and carry on as before. I like the idea, but this legislation is never going to work.
According to the article, the Windows test was done on the exact same hardware.
A lot of people seem to be missing his point here, saying that "Well, AMD and Intel probably manipulated their results too, but he accepts those." His point isn't that Apple optimized the benchmark so that their system would perform well, his point is that they crippled the competition, turning off important new features. There is no doubt that AMD and Intel had every optimization turned on when they did their tests, and that's fine. The problem that he raises is that Apple disabled the competition in their own tests.
It's too bad the article didn't go into more detail on how these things actually work. It says they use "aided positioning technology", which lets people play without modded cellphones. How does the phone determine which direction it's pointing? Are there plans to install this in the United States? How come the Japanese always get the cool toys first? Does anyone know more about this non-GPS tracking ability? It looks pretty cool.
They can't get this installed in my girlfriend's car soon enough!
I think that one big thing they are banking on is the judicial system not knowing a whole helluva lot about the Linux kernel, and Operating Systems in general. People here on /. are pissed over this because we have some idea of what is going on. The Honorable Judge John Doe (or whoever is the judge in this case) probably hasn't spent nearly as much time reading slashdot, kernelnews, or linux journal as we have. He (or she) will gain most of their knowldege through this case, which seems to be to SCO's advantage.
The thing that really stood out to me in the article was the full frontal attack on open source software.
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Redesigning Linux for use by demanding business customers "is not technologically feasible or even possible at the enterprise level without (a) a high degree of design coordination, (b) access to expensive and sophisticated design and testing equipment; (c) access to Unix code and development methods; (d) Unix architectural experience; and (e) a very significant financial investment,"
Unless I'm missing something here, they are taking a shot at the Bazaar style of project management, claiming that the only reason that this project management approach works is because of theft. Does it just stop at the kernel, or have other large projects (mySQL, Apache, you name it) been stolen too? There's no way that a bunch of distributed developers could have designed large projects such as these.
On a somewhat related note, does anyone else see a relationship between open-source software development and swarm intelligence? http://www.sce.carleton.ca/netmanage/tony/swarm.h
This sounds like a rule that will be too difficult to enforce, unless they set up very specific guidelines. You're right, how do you determine that a reply is from a legitimate representative of the company. Can any employee respond? There are too many "if"s here. Hopefully the authentication thing will get in the way of it's being enforced. "I'm sorry I didn't post the company's reply, but I didn't know if it was legitimate or not."
I haven't used ICQ since my freshman year of college 5 years ago, but as soon as I saw those 3 letters, my number came right back to me. But I still can't remember my girlfriend's birthday. Kinda creepy.
It might say something when they port it to FreeBSD before Linux ... you would think that Linux would be at the top of the port list. Maybe there's some nasty problem they've run into.
What would be really cool would be to have it support encryption plugins (or modules, pick your noun). If you don't trust the encryption they have built in, write your own and plug it in. I haven't looked at the source code yet, but it's on my todo list for some time today.
No, people in the United States should not have to respect the laws of Italy, if they are in the United States. I would think a better course of action would have been for the Italian government to prosecute the person who created the offensive and illegal material (since he is an Italian citizen), and ask the server to take the offensive material down. They have absolutely no right to take material off of a server hosted in the United States. The same applies to kiddie porn. If kiddie porn is created by someone in the United States, that person should be prosecuted. If someone in the United States views kiddie porn, they should be prosecuted. The United States should have no authority to take that information off of a server hosted in another country though. Request it be removed, yes. It is a disturbing trend when other countries start to enforce their laws across international borders. I sure as hell can't keep track of 160 (I think) different sets of laws.
That is for war crimes though. If I commited a war crime in another country then yes, I should be held accountable for it. If I murder someone in another country, then yes I should be held accountable for it. But if something I do in the United States, which is legal by our standards, happens to offend someone in another country, why should we care. My girlfriend walks around without a veil or whatever over her head, but I don't see us sending her off to Afghanistan to be executed, just becuase it pisses them off. (Or at least it did up until a few months ago). There is a big difference between commiting a war crime and just offending someone.
I'm kind of curious what would happen if the web site's host just put the content back up again, and removed that user name and password. Does the Italian government have any recourse? If some foreign country tried to prosecute me for breaking their laws, I'd tell them to screw themselves. Since I'm not an Italian citizen, is there any reason I should have to obey their laws in the United States? Would the U.S. government let the Italians prosecute me? I would certainly hope not.
And the CEO of McDonalds doesn't give a shit if you eat a burger or not, as long as there are still "bilions served" every year.
But even with all of that, Microsoft still has the lion's share of the market.
Ha, like I said, it's a rough translation. Online Norwegian translators aren't that easy to find. I posted a better translation here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=36041&cid=3887 586
And therefore, since hydrogen atoms have a longer lifespan, they can be used. What is the usefulness of something that only exists of a split second? I'm not going for troll points here (like someone thought), I'm just looking for the purpose of this research. If there is something that can be done with these elements, or if they lead to something useful, then it's a good thing.
Maybe someone can educate me. Why should I care that another element existed for an instant? It's been a long time since my last chemistry class so maybe I've forgotten some things. It just doesn't seem like very useful research.
The article is translated at desktoplinux. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6576907451.html
This is a computerized translation so I can't promise anything ... plus I don't speak Norwegian :)
Commonwealth said up Microsoft - agree Commonwealth has said up agreement along with Microsoft as donated dataselskapet ace at to contribute shareware at computers at statlige offices. Debattcentralen: Neat and IT work and Ad administrasjonsminister Overcome D. Norman H ) considers contract of sale along with Microsoft has been adverse. He believing bigger competition able afford cheaper dataløsninger both for commonwealth and consumer. We fancy that it agreement we have had along with Microsoft in actuality rendered Microsoft a monopoly of a ambit how we're served along with to a few competition , say Norman at NRK. Norman believing denunciation at agreement along with Microsoft not only that shall afford cheaper dataløsninger , but also qualitative better solutions. (NTB)