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Real Life Doom With Point-And-Shoot Positioning
SoupIsGoodFood_42 writes "A company called GeoVector has come up with a system that lets you point out a location. They say it could be used to get info on buildings and objects. E.G. pointing your mobile device at a movie theater could tell you what's on. They've also developed a "real world" version of Doom. So don't be surprised if you're in Japan early next year and see people running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun."
I want it built into my sun glasses, so I if I focus on an object for 250 ms, it pops up a little yellow box telling me what it is.
This sounds like the rangefinding/GPS binoculars the military uses to read off bombing coordinates now.
Im surprised how fast it came to the civilian market. With affordable cruise missle technology available soon, ordinairy citizens will be able to carry out their own starcraft style airstrikes (minus the cute red dot and the mushroom cloud of course, but who knows).
Now public schools will again have a rationale for prohibiting cell phones in school!
Jeff Bezos has an exclusive patent on pointing at stuff.
Great, now as if people don't think I'm geeky enough I can run around pointing my cell phone at shit expecting to Zap it.....
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This is what we need, lots of sketchy looking people running around aiming there cell-phones like they are real weapons, am I the only one seeing a problem with this.
"Put the money in the bag or get fragged Mr. Johnson!"
Just one great idea after the other.
In fact, this is probably from the same folks who make water pistols that look EXACTLY like real guns.
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I want the devices to be shaped like guns, just to piss all those anti-violence-in-videogames people off. "I'm not REALLY shooting them! I'm just aiming a realistic looking gun at them and pulling the trigger, thus gaining rewards in-game! Training me to be a killer indeed..."
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It would be better if you could point it at hot girls and it would search the Internet for pictures of them without any clothes on.
Oh yes! my prayers have been recieved! I can now look like a total geek-fool in front of many people by shooting them with my mobile phone wee!!! This is going to be a good thing for the geek culture though. Instead of fat geeks, we'll get super thin, fast reaction, quick thinking, tactical geeks. The superhumans of tomorrow!
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This is just a way to teach snipers in a simulated real expierience. Isn't it worth not having snipers to give up the right to have this sort of thing?
E.G. pointing your mobile device at a movie theater could tell you what's on
Or you could look at the sign.
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With more people running around the streets in Japan - worse than it already is - doesn't seem too safe does it? My 2 cents
It had better have a grapple, and a rocket launcher. (of course, said rocket launcher would only hurt humans, and not damage buildings in any way)
I prefer the current batch of phones that let me play Carmageddon!
But seriously, is it just me, or does this sound TOTALLY lame? Maybe it's one of those things you have to see demonstrated in person before you think it's cool.
"Ask me about Loom"
to what extent gaming invades phones. Are we going to be running around playing games with messages like "You killed Tony S (mobile)"? Assuming gaming wins out it'll be more like "incoming call from 1337 k!lla"?
Haven't a lot of GPS devices been able to essentially do this for years, without all the pointing?
Can you imagine how this would be taken in Los Angeles?
"POLICE! Put your hands down or we'll frag you!"
So don't be surprised if you're in Japan early next year and see people running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun
Now I won't have to lug my pc to lan parties...
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Surprised? Now that I've seen a Slashdot submission use their/there/they're correctly, what additional capacity could I have for surprise?
...if it fried your opponent's phone when you shot at it. No more stupid ringtones on MY bus!
That said, Sen. Hatch would probably get his hands on one and zap anyone deemed to be using his/her phone illegally...
I'd rather have a jamming device to stop stupid people from running around my house and "camping" behind my garage. Also, hearing some 14 year old yell out "OMFG YUO AWN* FAGGOT!!!" in my backyard at 07:00 is probably NOT the best way to get my day started.
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How long will I have to wait until I get shot with one of these? Could be worse, I suppose.
First we have cellphones that spend money, now we have phones that can identify stuff when they're pointed at it?
One day I'll not be able to find my phone cos it's nicked my car keys, stolen my money and gone out with its mates on the piss at a nightclub.
wouldn't get a large number of people shot by
police officers.
For every annoying gentoo user, are three even more annoying anti-gentoo crybabies. Take Yosh from #Gimp for example.
PDAs and laptops are one thing. But what POSSIBLE benefit would a child have posessing a cellphone at school? All they are / would be is a distraction, with people making / recieving calls and text messages while in class, etc. It's not like they add anything to the educational experience. All they are is an annoyance to teachers.
I would never let my child use a cell phone in school. IF I provided them with one I would explictly tell them it was only to be used after hours / in emergencies, and if they were ever caught with it out of their backpack not in these circumstances I'd remove it from them.
It appears as though you are trying to stare at that blonde woman's breasts. Would you like me to...
A) Order some pornographic material to relieve your urges?
B) Zoom in?
C) Shut the fuck up and let you carry on ogling?
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
Toy guns, such as squirt guns and the pointing devices in coin-op shooting games, are brightly colored so that police officers won't shoot a person holding a toy gun.
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I've had (I'm sure it isn't in any way novel) for television with overlays. So we have tv-text, but now with everything going digital it would be cool with a standard for "html" (including vector graphics) overlays which would be sent with the TV broadcast and toggled by the viewers at will.
For instance, one could have an overlay with the name of the actors floating over their heads. Or the names of the characters -- I know a person that while watching a movie in company, have to ask every freaking minute what is happening on screen..argh -- .. other overlays could provide information on what music is currently playing (linking to the place of purchase with a simple point'n'click with a remote) or just misc information about the program such as the next airtime and what not.
Sure, there's the problem of creating all that metadata, but -- call me a nerd -- it'd be cool.
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For every annoying gentoo user, are three even more annoying anti-gentoo crybabies. Take Yosh from #Gimp for example.
Walkie-Talkies in ET.
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"A 22-year old college student was fatally shot by a police officer mistaking the student's cell phone for a gun. The student was apparently playing the Real-Life (TM) DOOM (TM) game that is the rage on college campuses world-wide."
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The article claims that people would be able to use their cell phones to play Doom, and "See the environment on the screen." Why does this sound like they just ported Doom to the phone? It doesn't give any indications that it somehow connects real-life cell phones into some sort of laser tag-like network. -1 vaporware, is my guess.
Anyone recall that movie Casino where the guy got shot by a cop becuase he had the Turkey club sandwich in his hand? MMM Open face club sand wedge... GRAAHHHGHHHHH
It's too bad the article didn't go into more detail on how these things actually work. It says they use "aided positioning technology", which lets people play without modded cellphones. How does the phone determine which direction it's pointing? Are there plans to install this in the United States? How come the Japanese always get the cool toys first? Does anyone know more about this non-GPS tracking ability? It looks pretty cool.
More incidents like these
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
If you are standing infront of a movie theater, do you really need a PDA to tell what's showing?!? Seems to me like another solution in search of a problem.
From the company's website you can download a rather disturbing flyer for RealDoom, which includes the following exciting concepts:
"Real Doom turns the real world into a gaming environment." - Which is the last thing I would want; I mean how much of a saddo geek would I have to be to turn the real world into a virtual one, when I spend most of my day trying to turn the virtual world into a real one.
"Any location can be turned into a gaming area." - Well when I tried this years ago, in my local library, they threw me out! I even had that special pass from a Paranoia supplement.
"With communications via CDMA, GPRS or WiFi Real Doom is multi-playable, with the ability to play against other real world competitors or even play against console or pc opponents!" - Nothing new here is there?
"GeoVector takes a simple concept and applies advanced technology to create a compelling new kind of interface. By combining a userâ(TM)s location with the heading of their device, GeoVector technology can determine what the user is pointing at." - Oh my god! They've patented finger pointing! I knew it was rude to point, but now it will be illegal!
All joking aside, RealDoom has to be the dumbest idea I've ever heard of. Apart from the risk of causing oneself or others serious damage whilst playing RealDoom, only the Japanese would have the 'balls' (?) to play this sort of thing out in public; I can't see many US & UK gamers willing to look like d***ks on the high street (apart from those LRP players - and even they seem to restrict their playtime to indoors).
What's the point of pointing at a movie theater and getting a list of showtimes?
If you're close enough for your PDA to see the theater line-of-sight, you're probably close enough to walk up to the ticket window and see showtimes for yourself!
the sniper mistook Mr Hook for a fighter because he was carrying what appeared to be a gun - which turned out to be a mobile phone
Oh wait it must be a troll post because it's about Israel.....
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
You just gave me an idea! I should hide a real gun inside a Super Soaker.
:)
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With a silencer I could probably get away with actually using it for a while.
P.S. Making water pistols look pointedly not like real guns does not make them any safer and annoys the kid.
Have you ever bought movie tickets online? That is what this would amount to. You still have to stand in the damn line. It doesn't take that freakin long to pay for a ticket; it's the line-standing that sucks. The same applies to any other purchase you're likely to make where you're already in the area where the physical merchandise is kept.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
Just make it build it with a real cell phone gun or beeper gun. That will make sure you target the right place. or they can use it to target the correct building for a bombing run(CIA type stuff) or terrorist act. A device this small can make it easy to conceal what your doing.
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it's "origami"
I don't know, is it just me?
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what if you were to duck behind something to dodge the shot? would the phone be able to detect obstacles and barriers? if not, you could just start shooting in any random direction and frag anyone within range.
Just another way for us geeks to look like idiots in public. Will it ever ceace?
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There is part of me that is screaming "Oh yeah, that's cool, blending real life with video games!" You know, the part that likes the cyber-punk books.
Then there is this other part of me that is going "Oh my god, this is sooooo lame!" the part that doesn't want to have geeks looked at as strange (any more than we are), and preffers to keep games seperate from the rest fo the world most of the time.
So I guess we will jsut have to wait and see for details before making a final decision.
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Or, gamers could just discover paintball...
But then again, what's the difference between this and laser tag... Aside from dorky guns and stupid helmets...
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I can understand this being put into a cellphone, and I can see the utility of it.
However, what I want is a nice 10 Mpixel camera with this in it - record when the shot was taken, where, and what the bearing was.
Add that and perhaps a short, low-rate voice note, and maintaining my photo collection would become a great deal easier.
OT: If you have a photo collection, do those who come after you a favor and LABEL your pictures - date, names of the people in them, event, and why you felt this was important enough to take a picture of. I had to go through both my mother and my grandmother's estates, and it was sad to see the number of pictures of somebody somewhere at sometime - I'm sure some of them had some meaning to the family, but what has been lost to time....
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Don't we already have 'real life Doom'? I thought that's what all those reservists were playing overseas...
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..as long as they are
running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun.
straight under a truck.
So does Anonymous Coward have good karma?
I want to point the device at a plant and have it readout its name, age, and edability.
Snipers don't engage in running gunfights, shooting at close range, like in some action flick. If a sniper ever has to resort to that, he's done his job poorly.
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This was the rage in the 80s. Basically you had a target. You went around with a rubber sticky dart gun hunting your mark. If you "killed" him, you then went after his target. And so on, until one was left.
Then one day the inevitable happened. A guy was pinting his very real dart gun at someone at night, and a security officer blew him away.
Point and click bombing. Your soldiers walk in undercover, figure out where the target is in the building, Saddam Hussein, Usama Bin Laden or whatever then click and transmit the coordinates to your air cap boys on standby. Now all we need are black ops guys who are smart and skilled enough to infiltrate well. [-)
What would Richard Feynman do, if he were here right now? He'd do some math and he'd follow through!
Pointing your cel phone like a gun can get you killed. See video at The Shreveport Times.
Didn't Steven Spielberg use this technology in the re-release of ET? *points walkie talky at everyone*
How accurate is this going to be? Certainly not pin point.
I thought about making a toy similar to this, but a little more advanced. You've seen light guns for computers, well how about a gun you can target anything with, sorta. Look up 'Small Arms Trainer' e.g. I built one of these for fun, yes it's a scream with a projecter, webcam and laser pointer.
But I want more, If you can work out were a gun is pointing and you know in advance where the targets are then you work out if they are hit. Simple huh? Well no, it's a real bear to locate something in 3d, it has to be accurate, way less than 1mm.
Of course I posted an ask slashdot but it was rejected, obviously way to technical.
Any ideas?
HP Labs had their Websigns like two years ago. You have a PDA with a GPS and a compass. You point it at stuff, it pulls up info or lets you interact. We've been working with them on ways of getting away from using a GPS and compass, as they don't work so well indoors.
I think CMU or MIT had like a headmounted version, probably on slashdot a year ago?
...that rather freaky demo clip of the 4-shot
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kinda reminds me of serial experiments lain
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People keep making fun of the pointing action as if it would be like holding a gun, but I don't think there's the need to do that. You can just hold it normally, but in the direction you want and the built-in compass and positioning technology determine your location and direction. It could be done as discreetly as in this picture. Besides, if you hold it like a gun, how can you see the screen?
IMO it'll be a pretty awesome technology, and considering its similarity to tricorders, maybe someone had the idea from watching Star Trek?
What time is it/will be over there? Check with my iPhone app!
Uhh, cell phone guns are already a reality. The FBI was airports about them. See, for example, this description.
This Doom thing could really freak some people out, especially if combined with good sound effects. ;)
They've also developed a "real world" version of Doom.
I thought this was called laser tag.
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... or a real weapon? If you mean a real weapon, you just use your normal stereoscopic eyeballs. Works great, I've been shooting ..well.. a really long time, and to get reasonable good is not that hard. To get great..yes, that's hard, most people can't get great, but good enough you can get. Get some various firearms and practice. Ballistics is fun. And if you start with .22 rimfire it's surprisingly inexpensive. And geez, do it now before this bumfug government makes everything illegal and forces you to sneak around.
Now a toy? Not sure what you are wanting.. an electronic can't miss device? Or what? Lasers they got. Maybe what you mean is something like F.A.T.S., should be on the net, successful company last I was over there playing with their stuff. Neato toyz. Real weapons modified to use lasers directly down the barrels. Used for training with interactive life sized projectors and screens and computer jazz stuff (-techno speek). Pretty cool.
OK, made me look, yes on the net, here ya go...
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man I had fun with this stuff. too many innocent civvies got in the way! HAHAHAHA1
Anyone read that and think about the game in Serial Experiments: Lain? Hehehe... "Are you a PK?"
someone gets ventilated by an overzealous security guard.
I mean most phones are small, and hard to distinguish as phones at long range.
One part of me says 'cool, Doom/Cyberpunk LARP!'
The other part says 'Don't try this in a public place, especially not one in a metropolitan area subject to constant, vague terrorism threats.'
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I'm surprised nobody remembered this article. It was about being able to play Quake in the real world. I guess someone got around to backporting it to Doom.
When I was in college, we had real-life DOOM. It was called a "water gun fight". Several people had a fight going for several weeks, where the only rule was you couldn't shoot in the classroom. People would camp outside CSC101 and blast their opponents when they walked out.
IMHO, applications like this really are the next big thing. Maybe not real-life doom (then again, who knows), but applications that combine location and internet services are really the next logical step. They have the potential make mobile internet services more relavent to the user. For example, with real time traffic info, you could see automagically around slow traffic. Advertisers would eat up the targeted advertising- "Click here for the nearest Starbucks!" or "There are currently 20 people from your buddy list at the Shake Your Groove Club."
So, my question is, who should I invest in now, besides this company?
My Nokia BFG should arrive any day now...
Take clans offline and into the real world. Suddenly you've got gangs of prepuberbescent teens taking people's phones and prowling the streets after dark. Yet another sign of impending doom. Zoiks! Arrowed!
Not to mention the impact this could have on the paintball industry if it were successful. Imagine the savings in cost by comparison. Well...maybe not so much if you have to spend two days prior recharging ten cell phone batteries so that you don't miss any action.
if i point this device at males, will it tell me if we're soulmates? or if he's well endowed? people are "objects" too, aren't we?
Where I live, they'll just get shot. Quickly.
Some "genius" thugs have been going around on motorcycles, holding up motorists, using a fake cellphone that fires up to five
Can't say I totally dissaprove of their iniciative, though. It'll just give the police and armed locals a convenient excuse when faced with those idiots that have long phone conversations in movies, restaurants, sidewalks, etc.
> So don't be surprised if you're in Japan early next year and see people running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun.
A scary thought, for anyone who has watched Lain. True, the multiplayer game there is about as advanced graphically as Doom, and it's not played on PDAs or cell phones, but the parallels are a bit scary.
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The possibilities with this technology make it an essential tool for the blind. Just use TTS to relay the information back to the person.
in USA, especially in major cities
it's just that you don't respawn when you drop to the floor. We are still working on that area
So, it's a San Francisco company with technology developed in New Zealand, but it's going to be utilized in Japan?
There's never enough when you have too little
Then make "real life" versions of all the guns in Doom, like the Super Shotgun, etc. Then, make up a video game where you can go around with these guns and shoot at real-life people. There are no real life bullets; no projectiles to fire... but if you shoot at someone, a packet (the Ping of Death ) is sent through the Internet to the chip in their body, based on GPS coordinates, as measured by the gun, that instructs the chip to kill that process, er, person.
This technology would be useful for enterprise integration applications, military, government, the video game market, and for inventory tracking in commercial stores, like Walmart, which will be implementing RFID in its products by 2005: If you jack a product from their store, a ping of death immediately kills you as you exit their store. This takes place even if you paid for the product, but the clerk who rang you up didn't properly demagnetize it. A law called the Consumer Safety and Inventory Convenience Act (similar to the DMCA but more restrictive for consumers and more flexible for corporations) would be passed to facilitate the use of this technology to, uh, make things more convenient for consumers. Also, someone could make up an e-Voodoo website, like the one in the insurance commercial, where you can go online, type any person's name, and stick virtual pins (implemented by the chip in their body, of course) into any part of their body to give them agonizing pain, once again, through the Internet.
Yup, this technology is definitely going to be useful.
We have digital-tv here (Sweden) too (in fact, we have a deadline where the analog signal is shut down by 2007/2008 or whatever it was). You've used it? I haven't seen a box yet which was actually fast -- they're all horrible in all kinds of ways. They're slow to change channels for one. Navigation is another problem. Like most geeks I come from a background where I expect things to go full-frame, not 2fps.
For my overlay-vision to work it'd have to be 0-frame latency with content update at full frame-rate (25fps+).
Digital... Picture is great -- as long as you have good reception. If you don't, you get spikes in the audio and garbled video MPEG which is much worse than a little snow/noise that you'd get in an analog broadcast.
Digital-TV is the future, the problem is that it isn't currently better at everything and people aren't likely to downgrade in any area. Really, I think the whole garbled MPEG-problem might become a bigger negative than people count on.
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I recall something very simillar to this in the anime Serial Experiments Lain.
...is an army of soldier equiped with head's up visors wired into a secure wireless networks providing realtime face recognization, CCCI functions, geopositioning, IFF, and other functions wondering the streets of Iran or North Korea, or East Austin, Texas, all commanded by the Imperial regime of lying mass murders that run this mad Empire, who use the Bill of Rights and Constitution as toilet paper.
Big Brother be fragging.
I've always thought this would be a cool application: if someone cut you off in traffic, point at them and give them an "asshole point." If someone got enough asshole points, they could get a ticket or some other penalty. This technology looks like it could make that possible.
Of course there would have to be abuse safeguards. (Like X points available to give out per month, adn you couldn't give the same person more than n points per year, etc...) But this looks like it makes "asshole points" a reality.
But will it let me rocket jump?
Another way for big brother to tell where we are at any given time.
So don't be surprised if you're in Japan early next year and see people running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun."
Just to clarify, though, you should always be alarmed if you see someone holding their gun like a cellphone.
I got PalmGun on my Palm. It's Laser Tag with it's IR port, of course, it works with ANY IR device, so people cheat with the uber-strong omni-remote controllers, but otherwise it's still good fun.
EXIF automatically stores the date/time of the picture, and all modern cameras support that. The rest is good, though.
How can police tell if you are pointing the toy version or the deadly version? This is not going to fly, unless in a game arena of some sort, like paint gun wars.
They've also developed a "real world" version of Doom
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sounds great, but someone please inform the LAPD of this new invention; they once shot a guy to absolute pieces (i saw it on a rather gory video) when he pointed his phone at them...
"So don't be surprised if you're in Japan early next year and see people running holding their cellphone/PDA like a gun."
Wasn't laser tag great? Hard to believe that people think this is something new...Finally, another way to waste the batteries on a cell phone so when you really need to use it you can't!
Gee , a couple of 2-axis Analog Devices AXDL accelerometers to detect tilt (and hence general orientation), a GPS for position (also altitude, and atomic time), a camera, a background process doing anonymous publish-to-web (or publish-to-P2P-mapping network) turned on by default (and publishing updates when it detects cheap bandwidth is available)... cartographic and mapping agencies could be replaced in a few decades (or augmented by 3-D world synthesis, automated geographic recognition based on image matching (a la the movie Red Planet)...
GPS-based position detection needs the open sky though (which is why I think this guy's idea depends on cellular networks for position detection) -- unless the GPS and acclerometers were augmented by tiny gyroscopes to become a rudimentary intertial navigation system.
Won't it suck to always respawn in the exact same place? Unless of course this phone as some other pretty nifty features, like say teleportation
I can see a WHOLE set of problems... http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0105/31_kidgun-p ar.html
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So, was this what was supposed to be going on in Spielberg's revisions?
"Oh, right, can't shoot REAL aliens with our walkie-talkies, guys...."
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In the area where I live, your mobile is kept in your pocket next to your MAC10, Uzi or
Games are frequent with many blood-spattering frags; CTT (Capture the Turf) games are increasingly popular. If what was handed-in at a local police station during a recent gun-amnesty is anything to go by, there'll soon be some Rocket Arena matches going on!
Unfortunately the abusive language is just as bad as virtual doom and the local Hospital A&E departments are having a little trouble perfecting the respawn
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the sad fuck who posted the parent post probably thought he was going to get modded up as funny. truly a sad fuck.
This is just what we want. Millions of people pointing cellphones like guns.
Bet this
As much fun as this may sound, GeoVector's technology relies exclusively on highly accurate data. Data that is accurate to within 15 meters, to be precise.
Unfortunately, such data does not yet exist in any marketable form today (GeoVector hand creates its own data for targeted market demos). Until someone is committed to creating large datasets with highly accurate positioning information (the current common practices involve interpolation with unsound addressing assumptions), this technology will never be more than an academic curiosity.
... during the episode where Steven Spielburg was changing all of his movies to show walkie talkies and cell phones instead of guns and rifles.
I can just imagine seeing a bunch of people in the office doing this, since our Corporate IT banned playing Unreal Tournament after hours.
Then again, there's always paintball equipment!
find some way that you pay goes directly to you cell company as 'credit'.
They hate being left out.
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BTW, the prototype for the Doom game is available only on a PDA with specialized prototype equipment. No cell phones yet; you certainly won't be seeing this in Japan early next year. And it is single player only since the hardware contains no broadcast capability other than Bluetooth. And what's the point of using this technology if all the players are within a 30-foot radius? Also, the maps are not real world based; your position and direction are simply used to navigate the virtual Doom world. So while you may be walking across an open courtyard in the game, you'd better watch out for that tree in real life!
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