But he's being sued in California state court, not in Federal court. So a good deal depends on both California trade secret laws and California press shield laws.
But why would an agent of the administration whose job is to purposefully leak with the approval/at the direction of his bosses leak something they didn't want?
Robert Novak is a tool of the administration, but mostly he's just a tool.
And who makes up the rules for the what stocks are on the dow, etc? Also, given a list like the wilshire 5000, how many of each stock on the index do you buy? The criteria are known up front, but someone is still setting those criteria.
You seem to be under the impression that the criteria is arbitrarily set, and that SS could somehow manipulate the setting of the criteria.
In terms of the weightings of stock in an index, that is set by a formula that I don't know, but I suppose either of us could look it up if we wanted. So if the SS set up it's own index fund, it would buy and sell according to the formula. If it bought shares in a pre-existing fund or an index stock, it wouldn't need to do anything for rebalancing.
>And because the SS fund would be using an index fund, there wouldn't be any arbitrary moves in a "particular security".
Sure there would. If you know the index you know what securities are going to be affected by the move
And how is this any different than the current situation? And how might a dishonest SS fund take advantage of this? I'm really not seeing your point, I'm afraid, but I'm sincerely trying. Paint me a scenario, please.
And lastly. ..
> Do you know what an index fund is?
Do you?:) >Maybe I'm crazy and totally ignorant, but AFAIK. ..
Obviously neither of us is an expert, and obviously we're both doing the best we can to understand these issues. Thanks for not taking offense. =)
Right. On the Belkin. If you look at my posts immediate parent, you'll see I was referring to the trendnet device. I never said the Belkin wasn't DVI because, dumb as I am, I'm not that stupid.
It's actually a 167 Mhz bus on the system. That's a whopping extra 34 MHZ of juicy data moving goodness.
And you're completely correct in my case. I've got a PB 800, and a gigabit G4 tower with the CPU upgraded to 1 Ghz. So in terms of CPU power, the mini outguns my machines.
(I also have a 7100 I keep around for playing that one game I love that I haven't gotten to run on anything non-beige, and because it has nubus slots, and I spent a huge amount of money on this one nu bus card that I'll probably never get around to using ever again.)
I was sarcastically suggesting that I needed something in the range between a workstation and a supercomputer. I'll probably have to wait for Steve's head-in-a-jar to give that keynote.
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Oh, man! You're getting ripped off! =) Newegg has them for. . ..
It probably varies by region, but a big bag of tortillas cost 89 cents where I live (a mostly latino neighborhood in Los Angeles).
Whenever someone claims to have done something on slashdot, I can't help it; I read with a skeptical eye. The $2 price tag jumped out at me, but I don't doubt that you made enchiladas, or have the ability to cook (which is braggable).
Yeah yeah, index funds are magic. There's still discretion about what specific stocks the index fund buys, and someone determines what is in the index. (Or you have a silly index like "every stock you can possibly buy" which degenerates to "whatever stock the managers feel like buying".)
Do you know what an index fund is? Maybe I'm crazy and totally ignorant, but AFAIK, if you buy a DJIA index fund, you've bought an exact mirror of the DJIA. Ditto NASDAQ 100, S&P, Wishire 5000. An index fund doesn't have a stock manager.
Oh, yeah! A statement like "we'll be buying $18bn of FOO on 18 Feb wouldn't have any affect on the market, since it's announced ahead of time... There's a huge and fairly obvious difference between fed moves, which affect only one tiny, fairly abstract, part of the economy and specific moves regarding particular securities.
Your criticicism is based on your misunderstanding of index funds and your misunderstanding of the role that the Fed plays. Interest rates have a major effect on the entire economy. And because the SS fund would be using an index fund, there wouldn't be any arbitrary moves in a "particular security".
I'm not claiming that the SS funds participation wouldn't effect the market. I'm just claiming that it's not a given that the government could be able to use this to manipulate the market. The government already regulates the market through the SEC. Would you say that the SEC manipulates the market? Certainly it's actions and decisions affect the market, and can have a significant effect on any given particular stock.
Once you let the government start directly manipulating the market on this scale it really doesn't matter.
I think your fears are greatly exaggerated. If it was this easy to manipulate the market, why couldn't China, or the EU destroy our economy through such manipulations?
You are lying again. I never stated that. When you make up a false claim, it is quite easy to imply I'm wrong
LOL, you are hysterical! I'm thinking you must have a pathological lying problem. Let's check the record.
Let me quote you, directly:
Those aren't people that want help but can't get it. Those are people that either don't need help or don't want help. You can't help people that don't want to be helped
People that sleep on the street 2 block from a shelter that would let them in *did* choose to be on the street.
I stated that there are people that refuse help from others.
I guess what's funniest is that you call me a liar while denying making the above statements. Did you think that I couldn't go back and read what you had written to confirm that I got it right?
Not to mention, you've already told me that you don't believe me and that no matter what my answers are, you won't believe me, so why should I waste my time answering your loaded questions when you've already told me you won't pay attention to the answers?
I started out skeptical, but I've grown increasing sure of one thing: you have no evidence to back your claim. When you make a claim, and someone questions that claim, do you not prove your claim by showing evidence? And if that evidence is extremely vague, is there something wrong with seeking clarification of that evidence? I think maybe you don't have an understanding of this process. You assume that everyone must accept all your claims at face value, and if they don't, they won't believe you anyway, so why bother. Which further leads me to believe that you never had any real evidence in the first place. That you were repeating some shit someone handed you before, that possibly you confirmed with a vague perception of the world around you.
I never once said I wouldn't pay attention to your answers, nor that I had pre-dismissed your evidence. Evidence which, all these many words later, you still have not revealed. Is it any wonder I doubt that you have such evidence?
OK, arguments about the homeless aside for the moment. You either need to become a better liar or you shouldn't lie. The second course is probably best. Seriously, I think you've got a problem telling the truth, and if this hasn't hurt you yet, it will in the future. It's one thing to spout off about some shit you know nothing about, but to call the someone a liar when it is you that is making the misrepresentations about what you had written earlier . . . it's not healthy. Look. I'm sorry I laughed at you, sorry I made fun of you, but you need help. You've got a basic problem being honest to yourself. It's sad. If it will make you feel better, I concede the argument, you win, whatever. But get help and take a good long look at yourself. I'm done with this thread.
The audiophile I know could easily afford either the iMac or to get the airport express as ann add on for the mini, if he wanted. I do know that he's got the largest iPod already for his uncompressed files (and really bad battery life).
It could be portable enough to replace a laptop, at a fraction of the cost. (it's portable enough). Since consider how most people now use laptops. They will have KB / Mouse / Screen at home and office, all they are really transporting is their work environment.
That's how I used to think of laptops, before I got one. But consider, do you always want to be tied to your desk when you use it? I use my PB in bed, on the couch, in the kitchen, sitting on the, uh, porcelain easy chair in the tile reading room, in the backyard or front porch when the weather is nice. I've even used it in my car to play mp3s before I got my iPod.
I'm pretty sure that the GPU and chipset as well as the 32 MB VRAM are integrated into the MoBo, but it's still worlds apart from the shared RAM/integrated video of the low cost PC motherboards.
Until people start opening these things up on Friday, we won't know for sure.
LOL, so the upshot is that he and his wife need couples counseling. Or, worst case scenario, a divorce! "My wife wanted one of those mini macs, so I divorced the bitch."
I think it's pretty safe to assume that the items were specifically donated to the auction, and that objections to the propriety of it all are bullshit.
Celebrity auctions to raise funds for worthy causes are common as hell in Los Angeles. I don't think celebrities have their personal assistants call Goodwill any more. They just donate their crap to an auction.
Gobbleshoe. May you never need the favor returned.
I've done my fair share of this, but I've come to the point where I feel I've done enough. If it was a really close friend that needed help, I'd relent, but for now I'm all hosted out.
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But he's being sued in California state court, not in Federal court. So a good deal depends on both California trade secret laws and California press shield laws.
But why would an agent of the administration whose job is to purposefully leak with the approval/at the direction of his bosses leak something they didn't want?
Robert Novak is a tool of the administration, but mostly he's just a tool.
You'd make a crappy genie, Lars. =)
You'd be safer if your back up was distributed anonymously across the internet. =)
We're done here, Marc.
1) You substitute insult for argument. Unacceptable. Argument supplemented by insult would be acceptable, but you don't do that.
2) You make contradictory claims and further contradictory claims about what you originally claimed.
3) You close of the possibility of investigating your claims.
4) You provide no evidence for your claims.
But, as I've said, these are the least of your problems. Get counseling. Get help.
We're done here.
And who makes up the rules for the what stocks are on the dow, etc? Also, given a list like the wilshire 5000, how many of each stock on the index do you buy? The criteria are known up front, but someone is still setting those criteria.
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:) .
You seem to be under the impression that the criteria is arbitrarily set, and that SS could somehow manipulate the setting of the criteria.
In terms of the weightings of stock in an index, that is set by a formula that I don't know, but I suppose either of us could look it up if we wanted. So if the SS set up it's own index fund, it would buy and sell according to the formula. If it bought shares in a pre-existing fund or an index stock, it wouldn't need to do anything for rebalancing.
>And because the SS fund would be using an index fund, there wouldn't be any arbitrary moves in a "particular security".
Sure there would. If you know the index you know what securities are going to be affected by the move
And how is this any different than the current situation? And how might a dishonest SS fund take advantage of this? I'm really not seeing your point, I'm afraid, but I'm sincerely trying. Paint me a scenario, please.
And lastly. .
> Do you know what an index fund is?
Do you?
>Maybe I'm crazy and totally ignorant, but AFAIK. .
Obviously neither of us is an expert, and obviously we're both doing the best we can to understand these issues. Thanks for not taking offense. =)
Welcome to the World of Magic, brought to you by Dr. Bott.
Unfortunately, this little bit of magic sells for $299!! OUCH!!!
So there is a magic cable*. A very overpriced magic cable*. =)
* Actually a magic box.
Right. On the Belkin. If you look at my posts immediate parent, you'll see I was referring to the trendnet device. I never said the Belkin wasn't DVI because, dumb as I am, I'm not that stupid.
It's actually a 167 Mhz bus on the system. That's a whopping extra 34 MHZ of juicy data moving goodness.
And you're completely correct in my case. I've got a PB 800, and a gigabit G4 tower with the CPU upgraded to 1 Ghz. So in terms of CPU power, the mini outguns my machines.
(I also have a 7100 I keep around for playing that one game I love that I haven't gotten to run on anything non-beige, and because it has nubus slots, and I spent a huge amount of money on this one nu bus card that I'll probably never get around to using ever again.)
I was sarcastically suggesting that I needed something in the range between a workstation and a supercomputer. I'll probably have to wait for Steve's head-in-a-jar to give that keynote.
Oh, man! You're getting ripped off! =) Newegg has them for. . . .
It probably varies by region, but a big bag of tortillas cost 89 cents where I live (a mostly latino neighborhood in Los Angeles).
Whenever someone claims to have done something on slashdot, I can't help it; I read with a skeptical eye. The $2 price tag jumped out at me, but I don't doubt that you made enchiladas, or have the ability to cook (which is braggable).
Yeah yeah, index funds are magic. There's still discretion about what specific stocks the index fund buys, and someone determines what is in the index. (Or you have a silly index like "every stock you can possibly buy" which degenerates to "whatever stock the managers feel like buying".)
Do you know what an index fund is? Maybe I'm crazy and totally ignorant, but AFAIK, if you buy a DJIA index fund, you've bought an exact mirror of the DJIA. Ditto NASDAQ 100, S&P, Wishire 5000. An index fund doesn't have a stock manager.
Oh, yeah! A statement like "we'll be buying $18bn of FOO on 18 Feb wouldn't have any affect on the market, since it's announced ahead of time... There's a huge and fairly obvious difference between fed moves, which affect only one tiny, fairly abstract, part of the economy and specific moves regarding particular securities.
Your criticicism is based on your misunderstanding of index funds and your misunderstanding of the role that the Fed plays. Interest rates have a major effect on the entire economy. And because the SS fund would be using an index fund, there wouldn't be any arbitrary moves in a "particular security".
I'm not claiming that the SS funds participation wouldn't effect the market. I'm just claiming that it's not a given that the government could be able to use this to manipulate the market. The government already regulates the market through the SEC. Would you say that the SEC manipulates the market? Certainly it's actions and decisions affect the market, and can have a significant effect on any given particular stock.
Once you let the government start directly manipulating the market on this scale it really doesn't matter.
I think your fears are greatly exaggerated. If it was this easy to manipulate the market, why couldn't China, or the EU destroy our economy through such manipulations?
What happens if the SSA decides that it needs a couple billion dollars and tries to liquidate its holdings in a big Dow stock?
1) Index funds.
2) This isn't an arbitrary decision. And it needn't be a big surprise. Have you noticed that fed moves don't really surprise the markets anymore?
3) It needn't be done all on one day.
You are lying again. I never stated that. When you make up a false claim, it is quite easy to imply I'm wrong
LOL, you are hysterical! I'm thinking you must have a pathological lying problem. Let's check the record.
Let me quote you, directly:
Those aren't people that want help but can't get it. Those are people that either don't need help or don't want help. You can't help people that don't want to be helped
People that sleep on the street 2 block from a shelter that would let them in *did* choose to be on the street.
I stated that there are people that refuse help from others.
I guess what's funniest is that you call me a liar while denying making the above statements. Did you think that I couldn't go back and read what you had written to confirm that I got it right?
Not to mention, you've already told me that you don't believe me and that no matter what my answers are, you won't believe me, so why should I waste my time answering your loaded questions when you've already told me you won't pay attention to the answers?
I started out skeptical, but I've grown increasing sure of one thing: you have no evidence to back your claim. When you make a claim, and someone questions that claim, do you not prove your claim by showing evidence? And if that evidence is extremely vague, is there something wrong with seeking clarification of that evidence? I think maybe you don't have an understanding of this process. You assume that everyone must accept all your claims at face value, and if they don't, they won't believe you anyway, so why bother. Which further leads me to believe that you never had any real evidence in the first place. That you were repeating some shit someone handed you before, that possibly you confirmed with a vague perception of the world around you.
I never once said I wouldn't pay attention to your answers, nor that I had pre-dismissed your evidence. Evidence which, all these many words later, you still have not revealed. Is it any wonder I doubt that you have such evidence?
OK, arguments about the homeless aside for the moment. You either need to become a better liar or you shouldn't lie. The second course is probably best. Seriously, I think you've got a problem telling the truth, and if this hasn't hurt you yet, it will in the future. It's one thing to spout off about some shit you know nothing about, but to call the someone a liar when it is you that is making the misrepresentations about what you had written earlier . . . it's not healthy. Look. I'm sorry I laughed at you, sorry I made fun of you, but you need help. You've got a basic problem being honest to yourself. It's sad. If it will make you feel better, I concede the argument, you win, whatever. But get help and take a good long look at yourself. I'm done with this thread.
The audiophile I know could easily afford either the iMac or to get the airport express as ann add on for the mini, if he wanted. I do know that he's got the largest iPod already for his uncompressed files (and really bad battery life).
So if you want optical, get the airport express.
Can you name a single man here on slashdot who wouldn't get hot @ the thought of his wife wanting to use a UNIX-based operating system?
I think I just zergrushed in my pants.
It could be portable enough to replace a laptop, at a fraction of the cost. (it's portable enough). Since consider how most people now use laptops. They will have KB / Mouse / Screen at home and office, all they are really transporting is their work environment.
That's how I used to think of laptops, before I got one. But consider, do you always want to be tied to your desk when you use it? I use my PB in bed, on the couch, in the kitchen, sitting on the, uh, porcelain easy chair in the tile reading room, in the backyard or front porch when the weather is nice. I've even used it in my car to play mp3s before I got my iPod.
"Who needs a Parallel or Serial port anymore? Who needs PS2 ports?"
Many people. Remember, not everyone has a USB keyboard sitting around.
What, buck fiddy is the cost of a adapter if you don't already have one in your odds & ends bin. Slightly higher, and you've got a twofer adapter.
iDVD is easily replicated by something like Sonic MyDVD
Is this coming bundled with XP now? Otherwise it's $70. How integrated is MyDVD with Movie Maker 2?
Yeah, you'll have lots of time for factoring, as you stare at the living room ceiling as you sleep on the couch for a week. =)
It's not DVI. If you're using a DVI monitor, this isn't the switch.
this is coming from a former MCSE
I thought once you joined you could never leave, like the Mafia.
I'm pretty sure that the GPU and chipset as well as the 32 MB VRAM are integrated into the MoBo, but it's still worlds apart from the shared RAM/integrated video of the low cost PC motherboards.
Until people start opening these things up on Friday, we won't know for sure.
What, in front of the VTEC sticker? Are you crazy? That VTEC sticker adds at least 10 hp.
LOL, so the upshot is that he and his wife need couples counseling. Or, worst case scenario, a divorce! "My wife wanted one of those mini macs, so I divorced the bitch."
I think it's pretty safe to assume that the items were specifically donated to the auction, and that objections to the propriety of it all are bullshit.
Celebrity auctions to raise funds for worthy causes are common as hell in Los Angeles. I don't think celebrities have their personal assistants call Goodwill any more. They just donate their crap to an auction.
Gobbleshoe. May you never need the favor returned.
I've done my fair share of this, but I've come to the point where I feel I've done enough. If it was a really close friend that needed help, I'd relent, but for now I'm all hosted out.