What bothers me, though, isn't the lasers, it's that this is the second Roland story in less than 24 hours. That Roland must have some amazing oral skills.
Oh, thooose rusty nails. They're hardly what I'd call real nails, more like carpet tacks. Just chew a bit more and you'll be fine. You've had your tetanus shot in the last five years, right? Then it's not really a problem, and I'm sure it'll get taken care of in the next point release of open spaghetti sauce.
You then realize that the garlic also contains rusty nails and little critters. Your meal is ruined. What in the hell are you talking about? There are no rusty nails in the garlic stable branch. Not sure about the critters, tho'. And if you don't like the critters, you could always set the less protein flag.
You feel that you're a victim? That Google victimized you? Holy shit, if only science could create a violin small enough to play "My heart bleeds for you". Man, I don't know if you've heard of it, but there's this thing called perspective, and you really, really need to get some. It doesn't really matter whether or not the products weren't available anywhere else. You either knew what the quality of the goods were, in which case it's awfully hard to consider you a victim, or you didn't know because you couldn't be bothered to find out, in which case it's awfully hard to consider you a victim.
You know what, though? The very fact that you're spending this much energy on being a "victim" over such a trivial matter that has already been redressed by your "victimizer", tells me all I need to know about you. Whatever it is that truly ails you, I hope you get over it.
No, it's more like you shouldn't pay a rapist to rape you if you don't want to get raped.
Want to have permanent access to something? Maybe a stream isn't the your best solution, and you should take your business elsewhere. How in the hell you can equate that to rape is beyond me.
Didn't you get Stallman's memo? Henceforth, the word "use" is to be defined as "end use". All other definitions of the word "use" are deprecated. It's part of the new Freespeak Initiative.
Trying to make it work anyway will be about as effective as pushing your car along the ocean floor. I'm an aquatic Windows developer (who just ran out of gas), you insensitive clod!
No prob about the yelling. I just figured you were a loud mouth. =)
You make some really good points, both as to why Apple hasn't been successful in the enterprise and why that's probably part of their strategy. There is something to be said about knowing ones limitations. Manpower is probably part of it, but I wouldn't read too much into the delay of OS X 10.5 Leopard. It's not like Apple is the first company to let a deadline slip because they got overextended. coughcoughlonghorn. cough.
Sircusa's article (to me, anyway) was more about Apple's corporate DNA, if there is such a thing. Jobs' comments might sound smug but I don't know if that's the case. No doubt he's being self serving, and absolutely no doubt he's insanely arrogant (I've met him, so I know first hand). But his comments aren't so much smug as they are talking past the fanboys and the antifanboys to the investors. He's proclaiming an Apple strength where some will try to argue its a weakness. And he's got to do it vociferously, because there are a lot of people outside of the tech world that are spreading all sorts of bad information with the intention of manipulating the market. This hasn't been that big an issue until recently, since Apple shares have been on such a tear. Don't believe me? Check out thestreet.com and Jim Cramer. The dude is a stock trader, and he makes bundles if he can push the price up or down on a given day. (He doesn't just do this with Apple, but Apple's been a big target for him the last six months.)
Anyway, I've got to run. I don't think I explained myself as well as I could have. Bottom line is that you make some good points and I mostly agree with you.
Wow! Way to rip the lid off the simmering resentments within the FSF! Do we really want want that pot to boil over? =)
I've noticed over the long term that the FSF has been engaged in a campaign against Linus. They get in snarky comments about him trying to take too much credit. They send people over to the LKML to troll him, then when he makes a comment in a heated exchange, it gets reported in the news and on blogs.*
Linus and Linux where the best things that ever happened to the FSF, and it is absolutely killing RMS to face that fact. Maybe someone should develop F/OSS Pepto-bysmol? Sorry, I meant GNU/ Antacid.
*Example: After the 3rd draft of GPL 3, Linus was asked and made some placatory comments about how the 3rd draft was a big improvement, satisfied some of his concerns, etc. For the good of the group, he held back his basic criticisms, and said that it would be difficult to change Linux from GPL 2 to GPL 3.
So the FSF sends someone to troll the LKML, start a flame war, repeatedly ask the same question (why not release Linux under the GPL 3) after it has been answered in many ways, etc., basically baiting Linus. Linus then makes some comments that get reported out of context here and elsewhere, and the FSF rank-and-file get all pumped up and start in with the character assassinations and allegations.
It's become clear that the FSF has put its battle against the external "enemy" on hold and is focused on destroying internal enemies, i.e., those who dissent from the party line. Reminds me of Stalin and his betrayal of International Communism in favor of destroying any and all rivals and potential rivals within the movement.
This is why I don't like the FSF. They talk a good game, but watch how they actually operate.
Sort of related, just to be an asshole I used to intentionally say "Linux Torvalds" instead of "Linus Torvalds" to aggravate a friend, just because I knew how he'd react. I always played dumb and let him correct me, but the next time we discussed OSS, I'd go back to calling Linus Linux. Good times.
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A turtle. Turtles, all the way down, man.
What bothers me, though, isn't the lasers, it's that this is the second Roland story in less than 24 hours. That Roland must have some amazing oral skills.
Oh, thooose rusty nails. They're hardly what I'd call real nails, more like carpet tacks. Just chew a bit more and you'll be fine. You've had your tetanus shot in the last five years, right? Then it's not really a problem, and I'm sure it'll get taken care of in the next point release of open spaghetti sauce.
Still, it's quite amazing how far we've come in the last 400 years. In the 17th Century, Kernel Development Manager was a hereditary title.
You really want to get into it, don't you?
You feel that you're a victim? That Google victimized you? Holy shit, if only science could create a violin small enough to play "My heart bleeds for you". Man, I don't know if you've heard of it, but there's this thing called perspective, and you really, really need to get some. It doesn't really matter whether or not the products weren't available anywhere else. You either knew what the quality of the goods were, in which case it's awfully hard to consider you a victim, or you didn't know because you couldn't be bothered to find out, in which case it's awfully hard to consider you a victim.
You know what, though? The very fact that you're spending this much energy on being a "victim" over such a trivial matter that has already been redressed by your "victimizer", tells me all I need to know about you. Whatever it is that truly ails you, I hope you get over it.
No, it's more like you shouldn't pay a rapist to rape you if you don't want to get raped.
Want to have permanent access to something? Maybe a stream isn't the your best solution, and you should take your business elsewhere. How in the hell you can equate that to rape is beyond me.
Dude, I like the Mingus .sig. We should go to the Chinese massage parlor one of these days and get oriented. =) First one's one me.
But who will refund your childhood?
Didn't you get Stallman's memo? Henceforth, the word "use" is to be defined as "end use". All other definitions of the word "use" are deprecated. It's part of the new Freespeak Initiative.
Here's the Wikipedia article on Bob Fossie.
Slashdot: News for nurbs, stuff that matters (to nurbs). Yeah, has a ring to it.
I think at this point you're supposed to shake your fists and say something like, "Just you wait, Westley! I'll get you next time!"
My personal favorite is "And I would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for Westley and that mangy dog of his! Curses!"
Didn't these issues all get settled in The People Vs. Freddy Krueger? Or did I just dream that?
Daniel, you're coming off like a fanboi. I love RD and all, but you're coming across like a Mactard trying to out piss Freetards.
Besides which, you're missing an important part of the equation: commodity software.
You're starting to get it, but you're not quite there. The purpose of the game is to argue about the rules, not "play" them.
No prob about the yelling. I just figured you were a loud mouth. =)
You make some really good points, both as to why Apple hasn't been successful in the enterprise and why that's probably part of their strategy. There is something to be said about knowing ones limitations. Manpower is probably part of it, but I wouldn't read too much into the delay of OS X 10.5 Leopard. It's not like Apple is the first company to let a deadline slip because they got overextended. coughcoughlonghorn. cough.
Sircusa's article (to me, anyway) was more about Apple's corporate DNA, if there is such a thing. Jobs' comments might sound smug but I don't know if that's the case. No doubt he's being self serving, and absolutely no doubt he's insanely arrogant (I've met him, so I know first hand). But his comments aren't so much smug as they are talking past the fanboys and the antifanboys to the investors. He's proclaiming an Apple strength where some will try to argue its a weakness. And he's got to do it vociferously, because there are a lot of people outside of the tech world that are spreading all sorts of bad information with the intention of manipulating the market. This hasn't been that big an issue until recently, since Apple shares have been on such a tear. Don't believe me? Check out thestreet.com and Jim Cramer. The dude is a stock trader, and he makes bundles if he can push the price up or down on a given day. (He doesn't just do this with Apple, but Apple's been a big target for him the last six months.)
Anyway, I've got to run. I don't think I explained myself as well as I could have. Bottom line is that you make some good points and I mostly agree with you.
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read on slashdot. Did you come up with fudwah yourself? It is a most excellent phrase.
Wow! Way to rip the lid off the simmering resentments within the FSF! Do we really want want that pot to boil over? =)
I've noticed over the long term that the FSF has been engaged in a campaign against Linus. They get in snarky comments about him trying to take too much credit. They send people over to the LKML to troll him, then when he makes a comment in a heated exchange, it gets reported in the news and on blogs.*
Linus and Linux where the best things that ever happened to the FSF, and it is absolutely killing RMS to face that fact. Maybe someone should develop F/OSS Pepto-bysmol? Sorry, I meant GNU/ Antacid.
*Example: After the 3rd draft of GPL 3, Linus was asked and made some placatory comments about how the 3rd draft was a big improvement, satisfied some of his concerns, etc. For the good of the group, he held back his basic criticisms, and said that it would be difficult to change Linux from GPL 2 to GPL 3.
So the FSF sends someone to troll the LKML, start a flame war, repeatedly ask the same question (why not release Linux under the GPL 3) after it has been answered in many ways, etc., basically baiting Linus. Linus then makes some comments that get reported out of context here and elsewhere, and the FSF rank-and-file get all pumped up and start in with the character assassinations and allegations.
It's become clear that the FSF has put its battle against the external "enemy" on hold and is focused on destroying internal enemies, i.e., those who dissent from the party line. Reminds me of Stalin and his betrayal of International Communism in favor of destroying any and all rivals and potential rivals within the movement.
This is why I don't like the FSF. They talk a good game, but watch how they actually operate.
I think it's sort of like sex. The best sex is always dirty.
Why, does it hate being anthropomorphized? =)
Sort of related, just to be an asshole I used to intentionally say "Linux Torvalds" instead of "Linus Torvalds" to aggravate a friend, just because I knew how he'd react. I always played dumb and let him correct me, but the next time we discussed OSS, I'd go back to calling Linus Linux. Good times.
Me: That Linux guy is pretty smart.
Friend: Which "Linux guy"?
Me: You know, Linux Torvalds.
Friend: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!