Following up on their threat last year to sue the FCC over sanctions imposed, Comcast has finally filed suit, stating that there are no statutes or regulations that support the FCC's authority to stop traffic shaping procedures.
Traffic shaping is writing rules like "give ssh and http packets priority over ftp-data". This is good and something almost all ISP that care about good customer service already do. What Comcast was doing, aka packet forgery, was a deliberate attempt to disrupt certain types of transfer. NO good ISP does this, by definition.
What's amazing is that people generally are oblivious and think whatever Concast tellls them is ok and good for us all.
Might as well believe what our politicians tell us also.
What's stopping you from trying the beta ? Put up a new harddrive / empty a small partition, turn on your AHCI and install windows 7!
Time to put those 8gb of ram to some use besides in linux:)
Tried it and kept going with Linux. It was an interesting experience but I like working in an environment where the DRM isn't there because someone else decided I needed it (recall the broadcast flag in Vista issue?). Unable to configure the system as I see fit (unless I install a hack to make it work right). Unable to inter operate with other OS's because Billy boy decided how things should work instead of the committees they are a part of. And I'm tired of hearing that every version of Windows is "New and Improved", "The best in the world!" and so on. Better than crap is still crap.
And don't get me started with their hyper aggressive attitude.
That's just the beginning of my list of issues with Windows.:-)
Is this from experience or repeating what someone told you?
My experience with the low carb diet has been great. I've reduced my carb intact drastically, reduced my sugar intact, increased veggies and protein and included minimal exercise like walking for 10 minutes a day. Taking it slow so I'm not causing other problems. In addition I eliminated / reduced HFCS intake.
In all this I've lost a lot of weight (over 30 pounds in 4 months) and increased muscle mass. I have a LOT of energy, headaches have gone away and I'm overall much happier. Not the kind of results I would have expected with this diet.
Then I read this article and honestly I don't believe it. Yes, there are bad fats out there. You're body however needs fats to operate properly. Eliminating fat completely doesn't work either.
You mean something like Blu-ray's anti-scratch protective coating (which really works very very well)? But even then, you'll still say "but I want to make a copy". At least be honest with yourself and don't make claims that you won't want to make a copy if the media is more robust.
And why would I not want to make a copy of my purchased media? Nobody wants to have an archival copy of their media to protect against damage?
This isn't an acknowledgement of Linux, its something to use as ammo to prove that they don't have a monopoly. Don't get the warm fuzzies over Microsoft acknowledging Linux because its just marketing and politics.
I remember when that happened with Coke many years ago. They acknowledged pepsi was their competitor then wammo! Pepsi's stock and recognition shot up. So yeah, this could turn into something that Microsoft was afraid would happen.
Personally I don't care. I'm already running Ubuntu on all my computers at home cept for my wife's business computer. And that's because Vegas Video doesn't work under Wine or Crossover Office... yet:-)
Ignore for a moment your hatred for RIAA/MPAA (i know it's hard, but try).
Now again, ignore your hatred of the RIAA - or swap RIAA for say your grandmother. How is this such a bad thing that the RIAA wants the money they won in a lawsuit? Imagine your grandmother sued the local supermarket and won. Now the supermarket is trying to sell itself and figure out a way to not pay your grandmother. Why would you object to your mother trying to claim the money she won?.
Now swap the supermarket with the RIAA and the grandmother with YOUR grandmother. Now imagine the RIAA suing YOUR grandmother even though she doesn't own a computer. How supportive of this are you when they go to court and harass her with a lawsuit?
Hate them or love them. They are suing everyone because they need more money. Innocent or not, someday it could be you.
It's ironic as I mentioned this very case in the thread about "Don't Copy that Floppy" as the RIAA get $84,000 per song or whatever it works out too, and Air France is giving families of the victims of the Airbus crash $24,000.
Three dead travelers worth less than one song apparently.
Knowing what NSA does, this Super Data Center would be used to spy, filter and record all the calls redirected it to by AT&T. So, now we have an American agency, operating within America, and recording American telephone conversations without oversight of law. And we have the galls to say USSR was a spy country... Wonders will never cease!
You are mistaken. You are operating under the assumption that we're a nation of laws.
Same here. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for my gaming fix. Even if it runs under Wine, battle.net didn't impress me when I was on it years ago with Starcraft 1.
I vote with my cash. Meaning they don't get any Blu-Ray dollars from me. Hell they don't get any DVD dollars either since I buy them second hand from sites like second spin or Amazon.com marketplace.
I haven't purchased Blu-Ray and still grabbing DVD's until this little IP war is concluded. meaning that they will get the hint and stop messing with the consumers.
Until then I'm purchasing DVD's from second spin and other second hand sites. No reason to send them more money to be dorks.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
That's weird. My copy says "All Your Data Belong to Us".
Qwest did the same thing to UTOPIA in Utah and delayed construction for 18 months. They thought they could assert ownership over the power company's poles and refuse to allow UTOPIA to use them. (Yeah, I can't explain the "logic" either.) In the end, they lost the case and won some of the war by forcing UTOPIA to refinance their bonds and put them in a situation where they'll have to call city tax pledges anyway. UTOPIA will still be able to make bond service in a few years, but now they have the PR black eye of having to collect tax money to make it happen.
What's interesting is politicians like Rep. Craig Frank also helped make this possible. The restrictions they were putting on Utopia were not similar restrictions Concast or Qwest has to deal with. So that and two years of lawsuits made it far more difficult than it should have been.
A good example of why we need the internet to be an essential service. It's obviously important enough to take to court and fight against over and over again.
If it is a choice of Comcast and AT&T vs a local city or county meeting, then I'll have Comcast and AT&T.
If it is a choice of Comcast or AT&T vs a local city or county meeting, then I'll have the local city or county meeting.
Private monopolies are generally worse than government monopolies, but private competition is better than both of those.
I was amused when my Senator said there were laws that protected you from abuse by these companies. What's interesting is how little they really protect the customer.
How does your city do with utilities? If they were owned by a private corporation, do you think you would have more or less influence on them? Would they be more or less expensive? Are these good or a bad things for your community? Those are the important questions to ask.
They are public services that are better off handled by a third party and not a government organization. Water and sewage are pretty much essential services that should be handled by the government to keep service levels high and not so much worry about the cost. Internet is not anywhere even close to being an essential service and thus is why it should be lumped in with arts and liquor as something that local governments shouldn't do.
Most countries today consider the internet an essential service. Just look around.
Will it fail just like municipal electric, water, sewer, and telephone?
At some point I thought all of these private corporations suing the government because they can't compete with the government for efficiency would cause some light bulbs to go off. As long as it's implemented and controlled at the county level, doesn't prohibit the existence of private offerings, and pays for itself, what exactly is the problem?
Do you really want to choose the tyranny of Comcast or AT&T over that of a local city or county meeting?
Despite all the advances of Concast the last couple of years, they still don't care. Otherwise they would work with their customers to resolve issues rather than customers having to blog about it and complain to the media.
Trouble is, I'm sure there's some bit of our tax money being used to make this failnet, whether or not we as citizens use it.
Oh good god. There are steaming piles of tax money in the telcos and cablecos, not to mention their monopolies. Tough titties if they can't deal with a little competition.
If you want to be an idiot at a city council meeting, maybe you should bitch about all the wasted billions we've paid for telecom infrastructure that is now falling apart?
You wouldn't be referring to the NII from 1994 which Clinton signed and says we'll all have 45 meg up/down over fiber to the home are you?
Nope, but then, the police are required to have warrents for arrests and searches, as per the Fourth Amendment. Now why was that pesky amendment added to the Bill of Rights? Don't we have nothing to fear?
Probably was added because it helps reduce abuses by those in power against those without power.
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Following up on their threat last year to sue the FCC over sanctions imposed, Comcast has finally filed suit, stating that there are no statutes or regulations that support the FCC's authority to stop traffic shaping procedures.
Traffic shaping is writing rules like "give ssh and http packets priority over ftp-data". This is good and something almost all ISP that care about good customer service already do. What Comcast was doing, aka packet forgery, was a deliberate attempt to disrupt certain types of transfer. NO good ISP does this, by definition.
What's amazing is that people generally are oblivious and think whatever Concast tellls them is ok and good for us all.
Might as well believe what our politicians tell us also.
^ This is the typical slashdotter.
Sitting around seething in hatred towards Microsoft, clinging to Windows until the Year Of The Linux Desktop finally arrives.
Perhaps.
All I want to know is does it run in Linux? ;-)
What's stopping you from trying the beta ? Put up a new harddrive / empty a small partition, turn on your AHCI and install windows 7!
Time to put those 8gb of ram to some use besides in linux :)
Tried it and kept going with Linux. It was an interesting experience but I like working in an environment where the DRM isn't there because someone else decided I needed it (recall the broadcast flag in Vista issue?). Unable to configure the system as I see fit (unless I install a hack to make it work right). Unable to inter operate with other OS's because Billy boy decided how things should work instead of the committees they are a part of. And I'm tired of hearing that every version of Windows is "New and Improved", "The best in the world!" and so on. Better than crap is still crap.
And don't get me started with their hyper aggressive attitude.
That's just the beginning of my list of issues with Windows. :-)
Is this from experience or repeating what someone told you?
My experience with the low carb diet has been great. I've reduced my carb intact drastically, reduced my sugar intact, increased veggies and protein and included minimal exercise like walking for 10 minutes a day. Taking it slow so I'm not causing other problems. In addition I eliminated / reduced HFCS intake.
In all this I've lost a lot of weight (over 30 pounds in 4 months) and increased muscle mass. I have a LOT of energy, headaches have gone away and I'm overall much happier. Not the kind of results I would have expected with this diet.
Then I read this article and honestly I don't believe it. Yes, there are bad fats out there. You're body however needs fats to operate properly. Eliminating fat completely doesn't work either.
You mean something like Blu-ray's anti-scratch protective coating (which really works very very well)? But even then, you'll still say "but I want to make a copy". At least be honest with yourself and don't make claims that you won't want to make a copy if the media is more robust.
And why would I not want to make a copy of my purchased media? Nobody wants to have an archival copy of their media to protect against damage?
This isn't an acknowledgement of Linux, its something to use as ammo to prove that they don't have a monopoly. Don't get the warm fuzzies over Microsoft acknowledging Linux because its just marketing and politics.
I remember when that happened with Coke many years ago. They acknowledged pepsi was their competitor then wammo! Pepsi's stock and recognition shot up. So yeah, this could turn into something that Microsoft was afraid would happen.
Personally I don't care. I'm already running Ubuntu on all my computers at home cept for my wife's business computer. And that's because Vegas Video doesn't work under Wine or Crossover Office ... yet :-)
Bullshit.
**cough cough** You must be new here :-)
couldn't resist
Ignore for a moment your hatred for RIAA/MPAA (i know it's hard, but try).
Now again, ignore your hatred of the RIAA - or swap RIAA for say your grandmother. How is this such a bad thing that the RIAA wants the money they won in a lawsuit? Imagine your grandmother sued the local supermarket and won. Now the supermarket is trying to sell itself and figure out a way to not pay your grandmother. Why would you object to your mother trying to claim the money she won? .
Now swap the supermarket with the RIAA and the grandmother with YOUR grandmother. Now imagine the RIAA suing YOUR grandmother even though she doesn't own a computer. How supportive of this are you when they go to court and harass her with a lawsuit?
Hate them or love them. They are suing everyone because they need more money. Innocent or not, someday it could be you.
Has that *ever* stopped anyone before?
No, and I'm sure there will be some people wanting to know if their mail is going to be delivered by Beowulf Cluster.
So now we'll start asking if it runs on RedHat Linux, Ubuntu Linux, OpenSuse Linux...
You can never win ;-)
It's ironic as I mentioned this very case in the thread about "Don't Copy that Floppy" as the RIAA get $84,000 per song or whatever it works out too, and Air France is giving families of the victims of the Airbus crash $24,000.
Three dead travelers worth less than one song apparently.
You should see what the MPAA get's per movie!
Knowing what NSA does, this Super Data Center would be used to spy, filter and record all the calls redirected it to by AT&T.
So, now we have an American agency, operating within America, and recording American telephone conversations without oversight of law.
And we have the galls to say USSR was a spy country...
Wonders will never cease!
You are mistaken. You are operating under the assumption that we're a nation of laws.
Same here. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for my gaming fix. Even if it runs under Wine, battle.net didn't impress me when I was on it years ago with Starcraft 1.
vote with your feet?
I vote with my cash. Meaning they don't get any Blu-Ray dollars from me. Hell they don't get any DVD dollars either since I buy them second hand from sites like second spin or Amazon.com marketplace.
I haven't purchased Blu-Ray and still grabbing DVD's until this little IP war is concluded. meaning that they will get the hint and stop messing with the consumers.
Until then I'm purchasing DVD's from second spin and other second hand sites. No reason to send them more money to be dorks.
Article XII
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
That's weird. My copy says "All Your Data Belong to Us".
Qwest did the same thing to UTOPIA in Utah and delayed construction for 18 months. They thought they could assert ownership over the power company's poles and refuse to allow UTOPIA to use them. (Yeah, I can't explain the "logic" either.) In the end, they lost the case and won some of the war by forcing UTOPIA to refinance their bonds and put them in a situation where they'll have to call city tax pledges anyway. UTOPIA will still be able to make bond service in a few years, but now they have the PR black eye of having to collect tax money to make it happen.
What's interesting is politicians like Rep. Craig Frank also helped make this possible. The restrictions they were putting on Utopia were not similar restrictions Concast or Qwest has to deal with. So that and two years of lawsuits made it far more difficult than it should have been.
A good example of why we need the internet to be an essential service. It's obviously important enough to take to court and fight against over and over again.
If it is a choice of Comcast and AT&T vs a local city or county meeting, then I'll have Comcast and AT&T.
If it is a choice of Comcast or AT&T vs a local city or county meeting, then I'll have the local city or county meeting.
Private monopolies are generally worse than government monopolies, but private competition is better than both of those.
I was amused when my Senator said there were laws that protected you from abuse by these companies. What's interesting is how little they really protect the customer.
With Government you're stuck with them until the next turn over. With Companies you can always switch to someone else or choose not to use it.
I guess you must live in that 3% of the country which has choices with having options for internet. Must be nice.
How does your city do with utilities? If they were owned by a private corporation, do you think you would have more or less influence on them? Would they be more or less expensive? Are these good or a bad things for your community? Those are the important questions to ask.
They are public services that are better off handled by a third party and not a government organization. Water and sewage are pretty much essential services that should be handled by the government to keep service levels high and not so much worry about the cost. Internet is not anywhere even close to being an essential service and thus is why it should be lumped in with arts and liquor as something that local governments shouldn't do.
Most countries today consider the internet an essential service. Just look around.
Will it fail just like municipal electric, water, sewer, and telephone?
At some point I thought all of these private corporations suing the government because they can't compete with the government for efficiency would cause some light bulbs to go off. As long as it's implemented and controlled at the county level, doesn't prohibit the existence of private offerings, and pays for itself, what exactly is the problem?
Do you really want to choose the tyranny of Comcast or AT&T over that of a local city or county meeting?
Despite all the advances of Concast the last couple of years, they still don't care. Otherwise they would work with their customers to resolve issues rather than customers having to blog about it and complain to the media.
Oh good god. There are steaming piles of tax money in the telcos and cablecos, not to mention their monopolies. Tough titties if they can't deal with a little competition.
If you want to be an idiot at a city council meeting, maybe you should bitch about all the wasted billions we've paid for telecom infrastructure that is now falling apart?
You wouldn't be referring to the NII from 1994 which Clinton signed and says we'll all have 45 meg up/down over fiber to the home are you?
Comcast for me is fine. Till I got to grab a torrent on the latest ubuntu release. Net drops every few minutes.
You must be pirating something otherwise why would Concast do that. It makes no sense. . .
Everything Concast says is the truth. You are a Pirate.
Arhh!~ ;-)
Nope, but then, the police are required to have warrents for arrests and searches, as per the Fourth Amendment. Now why was that pesky amendment added to the Bill of Rights? Don't we have nothing to fear?
Probably was added because it helps reduce abuses by those in power against those without power.
'the innocent have nothing to fear'.... What the hell is that crap? When did that become the rally flag for the loss of freedoms?
Next they will tell us that if they don't get these cameras, the terrorist win....
Oh wait!
Would you abolish the police then?
Why?
Do they have something to hide?
There are no innocents; everyone is guilty of something.
Especially those running our Government