You can use just about anything. Now.. most programs that allow you to print, can also print to a file, and you get a postscript file. As part of ghostscript, there is the ps2pdf tool. So, e.g. making a pdf of say.. www.slashdot.org is a nobrainer.
Other "creators" include OpenOffice.org 1.1 and later. LyX And you can ofcourse write Docbook documents, or TeX documents and easily transform them to pdf.
And as another point, when the GPL talks about "incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system" they mean binaries that are linked(as in/usr/bin/ld) with properitary code. A GPL'ed program shipping as part of a distribuion does not fall under this.(If it did, it would mean _every_ other piece of the distro would be GPL'ed, there are already many opensource packages in every distro that's not GPL compliant. It would be a mess if it worked that way;) Read the GPL.
No, RedHat does NOT prevent you from installing the GPL'ed programs on as many boxes as you like. They don't do that, and they cannot, as you explained. However they CAN prevent you from installing the Distribution as a whole. There is a big diffrence between RHEL the product/distros, and the indivdual packages within it.
For one, RHEL is not GPL. Many of the individual packages are ofcourse. Redhat can do mostly whatever they want(as long as they provides the source of the GPL'd programs) on their work. Their work is that they've put together a distro, made it a "product" etc. Just because there is GPL software in it , doesn't mean GPL can "override" that license redhat stamps on the distro. (Please read the GPL)
No, the Gnome libraries are mostly LGPL, you can write applications and release them under whatever licenses you want.
Elaborate ? I want to be able to write applications for the linux desktop and release them under whatever I want, be it a BSD license or properitary, whithout to many strings attached.
I'm not really complaining about Trolltech. Their terms are ofcourse understadable , and its rather admirable of them to actually provide a GPL license for it. I'm more complaining about KDE for using Qt. Ofcourse one can use another toolkit, but then you can't take advantage of all the nice KDE classes and such. The application also won't "fit" in the desktop environment.
wtf are you talking about ? The windows version has about the same license term as the X11 version. Except you don't have the option of releasing it under GPL..
Now, if only they can get rid of (the license of)Qt. I(and a lot of commercial companies) really don't want to release applications for the (KDE) desktop under the GPL OR pay Trolltech. Come on, trying to bring the world a great desktop, but beeing tied to GPL and/or Trolltech really sucks.
Focus on the problem. Get the students to understand the problems; Why security is an issue (insecure programs, design flaws,etc.). Make them be able to advocate secure programs/programming. Make them advocates against design flaws Teach them how to track current security issues. How to prevent the/keep up with latest patches etc. (+ ofcourse the obvious things you already mentioned.)
You are correct. However that has nothing to do whatsoever with X itself. (well, some faster/better gfx drivers might help, but that is a problem of any graphics system)
>Microsoft doesn't play well with others
Ofcourse they do, as long as it's to their benefit also.
Just like 99% of all other commercial companies.
If you want to blame the way e.g. Microsoft runs things, blame capitalism
It gives many reasons why X is bad. Have you done any whatsoever investigation on wether those reasons/statements are valid ? fyi many of them are valid only for the XFree implementation of X. e.g. "X is slow" , well ok, is it ? Might it not be just a very bad driver ? Or inefficiency in the toolkit in use ? Or just some plain cruft in the XFree86 codebase ?`X is a protocol you know, X isn't XFree86. XFree86 can be done much better. Look at the Snap drivers, or Xi Accerlated X. Basically, get hardware information from gfx chip vendors, write better drivers. Analyze and identify bottlenecks in toolkits (Gtk/Qt) and "fix" them.
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You can use just about anything.
Now.. most programs that allow you to print, can also print to a file,
and you get a postscript file. As part of ghostscript, there is the
ps2pdf tool. So, e.g. making a pdf of say.. www.slashdot.org is a nobrainer.
Other "creators" include OpenOffice.org 1.1 and later.
LyX
And you can ofcourse write Docbook documents, or TeX documents and
easily transform them to pdf.
And as another point, when the GPL talks about "incorporate GPL-covered software in a proprietary system" they mean binaries that are linked(as in /usr/bin/ld) with properitary code. A GPL'ed program shipping as part of a distribuion does not fall under this.(If it did, it would mean _every_ other piece of the distro would be GPL'ed, there are already many opensource packages in every distro that's not GPL compliant. It would be a mess if it worked that way ;)
Read the GPL.
No, RedHat does NOT prevent you from installing the GPL'ed programs
on as many boxes as you like. They don't do that, and they cannot, as you explained. However they CAN prevent you from installing the Distribution as a whole. There is a big diffrence between RHEL the product/distros, and the indivdual packages within it.
For one, RHEL is not GPL. Many of the individual packages are ofcourse.
Redhat can do mostly whatever they want(as long as they provides the source of the GPL'd programs) on their work. Their work is that they've put together a distro, made it a "product" etc. Just because there is GPL software in it , doesn't mean GPL can "override" that license redhat stamps on the distro. (Please read the GPL)
I don't think they've stopped selling 2.1. ;)
And upgrading from 2.1 to 3.0 is free also
You know, obviously drugs are bad for you.
No, the Gnome libraries are mostly LGPL, you can write applications and release them under whatever licenses you want.
Elaborate ? I want to be able to write applications for the linux desktop and release them under whatever I want, be it a BSD license or properitary, whithout to many strings attached.
I'm not really complaining about Trolltech. Their terms are ofcourse understadable , and its rather admirable of them to actually provide a GPL license for it. I'm more complaining about KDE for using Qt.
Ofcourse one can use another toolkit, but then you can't take advantage of all the nice KDE classes and such. The application also won't "fit" in the desktop environment.
wtf are you talking about ?
The windows version has about the same license term as the X11 version. Except you don't have the option of releasing it under GPL..
Now, if only they can get rid of (the license of)Qt. I(and a lot of commercial companies) really don't want to release applications for the (KDE) desktop under the GPL OR pay Trolltech.
Come on, trying to bring the world a great desktop, but beeing tied to GPL and/or Trolltech really sucks.
Seems cool. Nothing beats having a bunch of daemons chewing at your data.
I wonder how many points in the GPL this breaks. I would think quite a few. Last I looked, "few" windows drivers were OpenSourced, much less GPL'd.
Ok. So where did the satellite pictures of the secret Chinese launch base come from. I'm sure noone is spying on China..
I logged in 1 hour ago. No problem (gaim 0.70)
Why ? Got any more pointers on this ?
Give it some weeks, then you can probably run NetBSD and Linux on it.
Focus on the problem. Get the students to understand the problems; Why security is an issue (insecure programs, design flaws,etc.). Make them be able to advocate secure programs/programming. Make them advocates against design flaws Teach them how to track current security issues. How to prevent the/keep up with latest patches etc. (+ ofcourse the obvious things you already mentioned.)
You are correct. However that has nothing to do whatsoever with X itself. (well, some faster/better gfx drivers might help, but that is a problem of any graphics system)
>Try this kfg Why ?
>Microsoft doesn't play well with others Ofcourse they do, as long as it's to their benefit also. Just like 99% of all other commercial companies. If you want to blame the way e.g. Microsoft runs things, blame capitalism
wtf ? They only look for asteroids coming from the outer space ?
They are trolls. Pay no attention to them. They live for comments like this. Rule of thumb: "Don't feed the trolls"
One of
* Do you take bets on when you go bankrupt ?
* How much will you owe RedHat and IBM when the court is settled ?
* Will the 2 customers buying your "Linux license" get their money back
once your claims have been found false ?
It gives many reasons why X is bad. Have you done any whatsoever investigation on wether those reasons/statements are valid ? fyi many of them are valid only for the XFree implementation of X.
e.g. "X is slow" , well ok, is it ? Might it not be just a very bad driver ? Or inefficiency in the toolkit in use ? Or just some plain cruft in the XFree86 codebase ?`X is a protocol you know, X isn't XFree86. XFree86 can be done much better. Look at the Snap drivers, or Xi Accerlated X. Basically, get hardware information from gfx chip vendors, write better drivers. Analyze and identify bottlenecks in toolkits (Gtk/Qt) and "fix" them.
Shouldn't they rather point it at their own country, trying to prevent women from beein stoned to death ?