Re:Just as soon as Linux works with my sound card.
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2004: Year of the Penguin?
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· Score: 2, Flamebait
I think this is flame bait or something. I mean this sounds impossible. I have never had a Linux Distro not pick up a sound card, except for Gentoo which is for system admins. I have used Mandrake, SuSE and Red hat.
I do not think you understand what the FAQ is saying. It does not state that you cannot sell GPL'd code, but rather if you do not want to GPL you code, they provide a seperate license to do so. THis does not violate the GPL, since they own the copyright.
Netscape is free. Real Player is free. QuickTime is free. So they are not under cutting the competion in price. But they are bundled with the OS. I know that MS has not shown their cost, but if they pay someone to work on it, it has a cost.
Also airbags are not free, they are mandated by the government. So airbags and IE are not the samething. I gues you could include the review mirrors in this arguement, but they too have a price, even through they cannot be deleted usuallly.
Almost everything on a car can be deleted if you want. And almost every item delete will return money to your pocket. Some do cost to get removed, and other are mandated by law, like seatbelts and airbags. MS has no laws telling what to include and not include, so IE and WMP are extra cost install by a monopoly to kill competition.
I highly doubt Linux users would love ZIP. Now having data compression as part of a filesystem has been done under Linux, as has having a fully RCS encrypted one. WOW! A fully secure filesystem under Linux. Does Windows have that?
The cost is included in a Windows License. Microsoft is charging for them in the WIndows License.
VAR's cannot remove them on their computers and replace them with Netscape or Real Player or Quick Time. Why? Because they are not free and they are part of a monopolistic plan.
I should be allowed to not buy them if I want.
I should be allowed to not have them anywhere on my hard drive if I want but I cannot get rid of IE.
You are alos chicken shit because you post as an anon. coward.
But should I not be able to no to IE or WMP and get $$ back because they do cost $$. I do not think so. And if it is free how come computer manufacturers cannot get rid of IE and WMP when they sell their computers?
Windows Media Player is not free. Internet Explorer is not free. The cost of these products is included in Windows and Microsoft includes upgrades to them just like they do with other product they include with Windows, like disk compression and network software.
If you do not want the Ford CD player, guess what? Ford will sell you a car without a Ford CD player, not charge you for it, and you can put in your own. WOW! That is totally different than saying, well we are going to sell you this damn CD player and if you do not waht fuck you. YOu have to take or else you cannot get a Ford. That is more like MS approach.
WOW! 10% of total sales of Windows. That will double their costs! Profits for Windows will tank by 10% to only 80% of cost! MS must be really worried, because goinng form 90% profit to 80% profit on WIndows will be tough even for just 1 year.
The Appeals process should be interesting. I would like to known if the EU can make their judgement effective immediately, or do they have to wade through the appeals process first. I hope the can inflect penalities ASAP past wrongs. I do not like the fact that guilty companies can appeal and still break the law that are comvected of breaking. A criminal has to go to jail first and then conduct appeals. Companies should do the same, not have more rights than a person.
Really, I thoght that Germany was gung ho about Linux. I mean Munich is switching to Linux. SuSE is rapidly growing and profitable company selling Linux to Germans. I see where Mandrake is now profitable as a French company selling Linux, and the French are known to buy crummy domestic products over superior imported products( like Pugeots and Renaults ).
Plus, alot of European banks love IBM. and even used OS/2 extensively. I think that Windows upgrades would be out and new purchases of Linux would be in.
Actually I do not think there are driver for my crappy printer for XP. I could go to 98 SE. Acutally I would have liked to have in under Linux but there are no drivers and there never will be because Visioneer sucks, as does Brother. I also will not upgrade to XP because I do not want to register. I would rather use MAC OsX
I should respond better. Which Internet Chess server do you play on? Or better yet which server software does it use. I seems to me that there several Chess Server interfaces for Linux, like Jin and Knights. They interface with FICS. Eboard also works with several. I wonder if really checked the list of available clients to see if there was one to meet you needs.
Windows has more drivers, not drivers that are easier to use. Actually you normally have to have drivers supplied by the Hardware vender under windows, while Linux either has the driver in the kernel or not. It cannot get any easier to setup a printer than it is in Mandrake. Simply click about 4 buttons and you are done. My HP 2110 PSC work out of the box with a few button clicks. I still trouble getting my crappy Brother MVP350 working with Windows( 98 FIrst Edition though ). Thing either work or don't with Linux. Things usually have trouble eventually with Windows.
I believe that you are a clueless person when it comes to Linux and have a bias of you own. I also think that you are a troll. Windows XP is no better than Linux at just letting you run. Have you run a current Linux distro like Mandrake, SuSE, et all ? If not then you should try it and then comment. If you have, share you problems. I think that you have not, and you just want to troll. Ya got me though.
Really? It sounds like the small developers are risking their entire company on their games. Let's see, they develop the game, they test the game, and if it fails to sell, the publishers tell them to fuck off. I think the small guys are risking a lot more.
That is what the heck SCO has been chirping about in the past. They want all of their licensees to certify that they did not distrubute SCO's code the Linux. DCX apparently told the to sod off. SCO's reply was to sue them. I really do not know what they gain by this.
is legal and P2P is not. Aren't they same thing. I mean when I was younger, everyone could just copy tunes off the radio. Oh, I forgot that radio stations pay a fee to play the songs. I guess that is how a radio is legal and P2P is not. But if I record a tune off the radio and put on a CD and never ever pay for it, am I a pirate, thief and racketeer. If I copy all every song off the radio onto my pc and then start a web site where people can download for free I guess that would put me in the whosgou( SP) , ie jail. So I can copy songs as long as I do not share them. The Radio can share them with me but not share the blame when I copy them to the internet.
I think I starting to see their point. P2P does not allow the record companies a fee based system for them to get their cut when I share the song with others. I can only share a song with those in the listening area and if I allow others to know about what I like via P2P I am a criminal. But I geuss if I paid the RIAA a fee for each play, I would be ok even if I do not make any money. WOW I guess I should play any music and the RIAA will be happy.
Lets all stop playing music and we will be safe from the RIAA. I do not want the RIAA to come after me if I play my CDs for to many people.
I think Ford will not demand that they quit using Word, et al, but they will demand that suppliers use the formats that they can read on their computers. I would bet that vmware maybe inplace initially to hanlde MS formetted documents until all on a commonly supported platform.
Who knows, in 5 years MS Office could be on Linux( or MS Linux )?
Re:What about Burlington in 1999?
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Ford To Move To Linux
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· Score: 2, Interesting
1) As stated before Ford is huge when compared to BCF. 2) Ford has a bunch of suppliers that will swith with Ford. 3) Ford has a bunch of dealers who will be switching 4) This is huge compared to BCF.
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I think this is flame bait or something. I mean this sounds impossible. I have never had a Linux Distro not pick up a sound card, except for Gentoo which is for system admins. I have used Mandrake, SuSE and Red hat.
I do not think you understand what the FAQ is saying. It does not state that you cannot sell GPL'd code, but rather if you do not want to GPL you code, they provide a seperate license to do so. THis does not violate the GPL, since they own the copyright.
Netscape is free. Real Player is free. QuickTime is free. So they are not under cutting the competion in price. But they are bundled with the OS. I know that MS has not shown their cost, but if they pay someone to work on it, it has a cost.
Also airbags are not free, they are mandated by the government. So airbags and IE are not the samething. I gues you could include the review mirrors in this arguement, but they too have a price, even through they cannot be deleted usuallly.
Almost everything on a car can be deleted if you want. And almost every item delete will return money to your pocket. Some do cost to get removed, and other are mandated by law, like seatbelts and airbags. MS has no laws telling what to include and not include, so IE and WMP are extra cost install by a monopoly to kill competition.
I highly doubt Linux users would love ZIP. Now having data compression as part of a filesystem has been done under Linux, as has having a fully RCS encrypted one. WOW! A fully secure filesystem under Linux. Does Windows have that?
As I said before you did not look. XBOARD, written by the same guy who does winboard work with ICC.
But alas worldchessnetwork.com has yet to see the light.
The cost is included in a Windows License. Microsoft is charging for them in the WIndows License.
VAR's cannot remove them on their computers and replace them with Netscape or Real Player or Quick Time. Why? Because they are not free and they are part of a monopolistic plan.
I should be allowed to not buy them if I want.
I should be allowed to not have them anywhere on my hard drive if I want but I cannot get rid of IE.
You are alos chicken shit because you post as an anon. coward.
But should I not be able to no to IE or WMP and get $$ back because they do cost $$. I do not think so. And if it is free how come computer manufacturers cannot get rid of IE and WMP when they sell their computers?
Windows Media Player is not free. Internet Explorer is not free. The cost of these products is included in Windows and Microsoft includes upgrades to them just like they do with other product they include with Windows, like disk compression and network software.
If you do not want the Ford CD player, guess what? Ford will sell you a car without a Ford CD player, not charge you for it, and you can put in your own. WOW! That is totally different than saying, well we are going to sell you this damn CD player and if you do not waht fuck you. YOu have to take or else you cannot get a Ford. That is more like MS approach.
Actually I am not slamming Win98 in comparision current Linux Distro.
WOW! 10% of total sales of Windows. That will double their costs! Profits for Windows will tank by 10% to only 80% of cost! MS must be really worried, because goinng form 90% profit to 80% profit on WIndows will be tough even for just 1 year.
The Appeals process should be interesting. I would like to known if the EU can make their judgement effective immediately, or do they have to wade through the appeals process first. I hope the can inflect penalities ASAP past wrongs. I do not like the fact that guilty companies can appeal and still break the law that are comvected of breaking. A criminal has to go to jail first and then conduct appeals. Companies should do the same, not have more rights than a person.
Really, I thoght that Germany was gung ho about Linux. I mean Munich is switching to Linux. SuSE is rapidly growing and profitable company selling Linux to Germans. I see where Mandrake is now profitable as a French company selling Linux, and the French are known to buy crummy domestic products over superior imported products( like Pugeots and Renaults ).
Plus, alot of European banks love IBM. and even used OS/2 extensively. I think that Windows upgrades would be out and new purchases of Linux would be in.
Actually I do not think there are driver for my crappy printer for XP. I could go to 98 SE. Acutally I would have liked to have in under Linux but there are no drivers and there never will be because Visioneer sucks, as does Brother. I also will not upgrade to XP because I do not want to register. I would rather use MAC OsX
I should respond better. Which Internet Chess server do you play on? Or better yet which server software does it use. I seems to me that there several Chess Server interfaces for Linux, like Jin and Knights. They interface with FICS. Eboard also works with several. I wonder if really checked the list of available clients to see if there was one to meet you needs.
Have you ever heard of GNU chess?
Windows has more drivers, not drivers that are easier to use. Actually you normally have to have drivers supplied by the Hardware vender under windows, while Linux either has the driver in the kernel or not. It cannot get any easier to setup a printer than it is in Mandrake. Simply click about 4 buttons and you are done. My HP 2110 PSC work out of the box with a few button clicks. I still trouble getting my crappy Brother MVP350 working with Windows( 98 FIrst Edition though ). Thing either work or don't with Linux. Things usually have trouble eventually with Windows.
I believe that you are a clueless person when it comes to Linux and have a bias of you own. I also think that you are a troll. Windows XP is no better than Linux at just letting you run. Have you run a current Linux distro like Mandrake, SuSE, et all ? If not then you should try it and then comment. If you have, share you problems. I think that you have not, and you just want to troll. Ya got me though.
And BSD would be the new Linux? Just Asking?
Really? It sounds like the small developers are risking their entire company on their games. Let's see, they develop the game, they test the game, and if it fails to sell, the publishers tell them to fuck off. I think the small guys are risking a lot more.
They could call Red Hat, or IBM since that is what IBM and RedHat and SuSE do.
That is what the heck SCO has been chirping about in the past. They want all of their licensees to certify that they did not distrubute SCO's code the Linux. DCX apparently told the to sod off. SCO's reply was to sue them. I really do not know what they gain by this.
WOW!! LINUX IS NOT A DESKTOP OS!! THANK GOD FOR TELLING ME. I now have to get rid of it on the 20 desktops we have it on. Damn!
And to think I though it was because we used as one.
is legal and P2P is not. Aren't they same thing. I mean when I was younger, everyone could just copy tunes off the radio. Oh, I forgot that radio stations pay a fee to play the songs. I guess that is how a radio is legal and P2P is not. But if I record a tune off the radio and put on a CD and never ever pay for it, am I a pirate, thief and racketeer. If I copy all every song off the radio onto my pc and then start a web site where people can download for free I guess that would put me in the whosgou( SP) , ie jail. So I can copy songs as long as I do not share them. The Radio can share them with me but not share the blame when I copy them to the internet.
I think I starting to see their point. P2P does not allow the record companies a fee based system for them to get their cut when I share the song with others. I can only share a song with those in the listening area and if I allow others to know about what I like via P2P I am a criminal. But I geuss if I paid the RIAA a fee for each play, I would be ok even if I do not make any money. WOW I guess I should play any music and the RIAA will be happy.
Lets all stop playing music and we will be safe from the RIAA. I do not want the RIAA to come after me if I play my CDs for to many people.
I think Ford will not demand that they quit using Word, et al, but they will demand that suppliers use the formats that they can read on their computers. I would bet that vmware maybe inplace initially to hanlde MS formetted documents until all on a commonly supported platform.
Who knows, in 5 years MS Office could be on Linux( or MS Linux )?
1) As stated before Ford is huge when compared to BCF.
2) Ford has a bunch of suppliers that will swith with Ford.
3) Ford has a bunch of dealers who will be switching
4) This is huge compared to BCF.