I am a Ford Customer and I have never sent a Word, Excel or Powerpoint document to them. I would doubt that any Ford customer would send them a Word, Excel or Powerpoint document. Suppliers are going to have to adjust if Ford does this throughout their organization.
Why, then, should the artist have incentive now? The artist gets 80 cents out the $17 spent on a CD at present. The Label gets 4.90. The store gets $5. Hell the producer get almost as much as the artist( 27 cents) . I think that is stealing. Who would enter into an agreement where I do all of the work, and give away $16.80 out every $17 spent on my product?
By the way, I saw these number in the Chicago Tribune!
I know why!! They are shill for M$ and they say what M$ wants them to make the GPL and Linux look bad. The Apache license must not be like the GPL because otherwise M$ would have sued them as well.
So you do not mind paying for research and project that help Microsoft and IBM. The are very large companies. I guess one could say that each company could get a hold the software equally, but then would their not be various format and versions of the same thing? What if by chance I develop the greatest widget based on a BSD licensed widget ( here using widget in the abstart sense ) and Microsoft develops one that pushes their agenda of constant upgrades. And is totally incompatible to mine. Theirs sucks but you are going to buy their and ignore mine. The public is not served and the mega corporations make out like a bandit. But you and every one else are left to pay for both the original development and now the new inferior version Microsoft is dishing out.
If the widget was GPL'ed, Microsoft would not be able to push me out. My great work would be notice and used and others coudl jump on my bandwagon abd the public is enriched.
I do not understand why people think that every item in Windows is golden and the linux desktop is a piece of shit. I use it everyday. I know new users who use it everyday. It is fine. Granted the you cannot play a dvd easily on a linux system, but whose fault is that? MPLayer is not the only video player around and the distros ( like Mandrake 9.1) have a version of MPlayer that plays videos. Xine is better than Mplayer in some ways and in some ways worse. But how many vidoes does a person generally play on a computer. I have an iMac and I have played 0. I have a linux box and I have played 1 or 2 clips. The biggest roblem is damn windows proprietary crap that linux cannot use.
No windows stuff is fine. Mozilla works. Konqi works. Gimp works!
I agree!! Why don't they cover OS X and Linux. Maybe it is because they are only 5% of the market, but I would bet that they are a larger part of the video capture crowd. People see Tivo and think they can do it themselves under Linux and a guide to show them how to that would be interesting, since one can develop for free under Linux. I wonder how many people are into video capture under Linux. I bet that percentage is around 20-30% of the video capture audience.
Yea, using the tools provided with Mandrake and recommeded by Mandrake makes urpmi( which noone would know they are even running ) so difficult and geeky. I just get the scared to death to run Windows Update. Ugghh!! What a complex and goofy appication that is !!!!
Of course they may have imploved since Windows 98, but I would not know. Mandrake lets me do what I want for right now and Gentoo does not have enough configuration utilities for me right now.
New Innovations will be very tough in the Browser market. Nice innovations like tabbed browsing and popup killing are great but most people don't care. Now if someone came up with a totally new experience, that would do it. What would that be? Only time will tell, but most likely it will be in the OS/driver area( like voice recognition or virtual reality ) and not in the browser arena. Browser need to updated and maintained or they will fall apart. IE is not really great and does not innovate, it just pushes user to M$ solutions. I believe that GECKO and KHTML( Safari ) are very important to keep things open.
For IE one can BUY a popup blocker. I repeat BUY one. So these IE loving consumers can get some else to the point where M$ no longer wants them around and then comes the M$ innovation of a popup blocker in IE 7.0.
How are these products so unique that they could not be replaced? You are right though, I do not know exactly what they are talking about and I do not know what software they are talking about. It sounds like just generic stuff, but I could be wrong. If it is just generic word processing and spreadsheets, then the open source product could do the job just fine. If it is firewalls and web servers, open source is the leader.
If it is scientific solutions, there may or may not be solutions in the open source market.
Personally I could giva a FUCK about the NEW M$ office screenshots. I mean WooHoo!! a word processor!! Never seen one of those gadgets!!!
Gads this is one of the DUMBEST TOPICS EVER!!
BUt to debate why people like Office over KOffice and OpenOffice ( and all others ) is not!!
The biggest advantage that MS Office has over Koffice and Open Office that I can see ( that is for the casual user ) is wizards and templates. Office has a ton and ours do not. At least I think they do not. If KOffice and OpenOffice had wizards and more templates, people would love them.
Why have video in on this device? I would think that your PC would serve as a video input/editting device so that this device would output the video/music to the TV/Stereo.
All windows users and producing Visual Basic macros
that produce pivot point table under Excel. WOW!!
I did know that. I that most people use WOrd to do letters and BS spreadsheets about their own personal finances. I had Office97 for 3 years at home and I cannot remember ever using it for anything beyond letter writing. Yea some people have incorporated Excel into apps and Excel is very useful, but 95% of the people out there do not use pivot tables and the like. Therefore any office suit is useful and productive to most people. Redhat is a very weird Linux compnay to me in that they do not promote Linux on the desktop. They only like Server Linux and this is a very distrubing stance to me. I just Biob Young would at least consider it but as far as I know he has not.
Sorry you have not but I do and we have others that do as well. And we are paid fairly well. Maybe you just did not look in the right place. Who knows. But the financial industry in using Linux and is paying people to program proprietary programs for linux everyday. Compnaies like Credit Suiss First Boston and Morgan Stanley.
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I am a Ford Customer and I have never sent a Word, Excel or Powerpoint document to them. I would doubt that any Ford customer would send them a Word, Excel or Powerpoint document. Suppliers are going to have to adjust if Ford does this throughout their organization.
I do not really download illeagal music off the net because:
1) most pop music sucks
2) I hate rap
3) I do not care about it.
I mainly disagree with the concept that I cannot give up something I own. The concept of copyrights is wrong .
Why, then, should the artist have incentive now? The artist gets 80 cents out the $17 spent on a CD at present. The Label gets 4.90. The store gets $5. Hell the producer get almost as much as the artist( 27 cents) . I think that is stealing. Who would enter into an agreement where I do all of the work, and give away $16.80 out every $17 spent on my product?
By the way, I saw these number in the Chicago Tribune!
Just wondering, what else did Doyle claim to invent that he did not?
Why oh why does SCO get press???
I know why!! They are shill for M$ and they say what M$ wants them to make the GPL and Linux look bad. The Apache license must not be like the GPL because otherwise M$ would have sued them as well.
What is this Bull Shit? Why would anyone pony up any money to these shit eating slimeballs?
Let's sue SCO for breach of contract in regards to Linux.
So you do not mind paying for research and project that help Microsoft and IBM. The are very large companies. I guess one could say that each company could get a hold the software equally, but then would their not be various format and versions of the same thing? What if by chance I develop the greatest widget based on a BSD licensed widget ( here using widget in the abstart sense ) and Microsoft develops one that pushes their agenda of constant upgrades. And is totally incompatible to mine. Theirs sucks but you are going to buy their and ignore mine. The public is not served and the mega corporations make out like a bandit. But you and every one else are left to pay for both the original development and now the new inferior version Microsoft is dishing out.
If the widget was GPL'ed, Microsoft would not be able to push me out. My great work would be notice and used and others coudl jump on my bandwagon abd the public is enriched.
Wow!! So if I want to use the software for my own personal gain and charge to use my version, I can. Then I can get FREE software research. Yea!
I do not understand why people think that every item in Windows is golden and the linux desktop is a piece of shit. I use it everyday. I know new users who use it everyday. It is fine. Granted the you cannot play a dvd easily on a linux system, but whose fault is that? MPLayer is not the only video player around and the distros ( like Mandrake 9.1) have a version of MPlayer that plays videos. Xine is better than Mplayer in some ways and in some ways worse. But how many vidoes does a person generally play on a computer. I have an iMac and I have played 0. I have a linux box and I have played 1 or 2 clips.
The biggest roblem is damn windows proprietary crap that linux cannot use.
No windows stuff is fine. Mozilla works. Konqi works.
Gimp works!
Thanks for the link!
I agree!! Why don't they cover OS X and Linux. Maybe it is because they are only 5% of the market, but I would bet that they are a larger part of the video capture crowd. People see Tivo and think they can do it themselves under Linux and a guide to show them how to that would be interesting, since one can develop for free under Linux. I wonder how many people are into video capture under Linux. I bet that percentage is around 20-30% of the video capture audience.
Yea, using the tools provided with Mandrake and recommeded by Mandrake makes urpmi( which noone would know they are even running ) so difficult and geeky. I just get the scared to death to run Windows Update. Ugghh!! What a complex and goofy appication that is !!!!
Of course they may have imploved since Windows 98, but I would not know. Mandrake lets me do what I want for right now and Gentoo does not have enough configuration utilities for me right now.
New Innovations will be very tough in the Browser market. Nice innovations like tabbed browsing and popup killing are great but most people don't care. Now if someone came up with a totally new experience, that would do it. What would that be? Only time will tell, but most likely it will be in the OS/driver area( like voice recognition or virtual reality ) and not in the browser arena. Browser need to updated and maintained or they will fall apart. IE is not really great and does not innovate, it just pushes user to M$ solutions. I believe that GECKO and KHTML( Safari ) are very important to keep things open.
For IE one can BUY a popup blocker. I repeat BUY one. So these IE loving consumers can get some else to the point where M$ no longer wants them around and then comes the M$ innovation of a popup blocker in IE 7.0.
What products of M$ are we talking about here?
OfficeXP, WIndows XP ??
How are these products so unique that they could not be replaced? You are right though, I do not know exactly what they are talking about and I do not know what software they are talking about. It sounds like just generic stuff, but I could be wrong. If it is just generic word processing and spreadsheets, then the open source product could do the job just fine.
If it is firewalls and web servers, open source is the leader.
If it is scientific solutions, there may or may not be solutions in the open source market.
What is this crummy VisualStudio.Net you speak of?
I have never heard of it!! I use Kdevelop and g++!!
They are free!! Any developmnet environment that you pay for and then forces you to stay only with it is useless!!
They could just use BSD or Linux with Open Office or KOffice.
Better solution I believe!
Personally I could giva a FUCK about the NEW M$ office screenshots. I mean WooHoo!! a word processor!! Never seen one of those gadgets!!!
Gads this is one of the DUMBEST TOPICS EVER!!
BUt to debate why people like Office over KOffice
and OpenOffice ( and all others ) is not!!
The biggest advantage that MS Office has over
Koffice and Open Office that I can see ( that is
for the casual user ) is wizards and templates. Office has a ton and ours do not. At least I think they do not. If KOffice and OpenOffice had wizards and more templates, people would love them.
While it is great that EA and the like are making money selling games, I want to know if they run under linux or Mac os x??
I doubt it, so I just don't care!!
BYE
Why have video in on this device? I would think that your PC would serve as a video input/editting device so that this device would output the video/music to the TV/Stereo.
Therefore it does not need video in.
for the ATI 8500 chipset
I would think that is because Gatos does not support for the 8500 chipset.
All windows users and producing Visual Basic macros that produce pivot point table under Excel. WOW!! I did know that. I that most people use WOrd to do letters and BS spreadsheets about their own personal finances. I had Office97 for 3 years at home and I cannot remember ever using it for anything beyond letter writing. Yea some people have incorporated Excel into apps and Excel is very useful, but 95% of the people out there do not use pivot tables and the like. Therefore any office suit is useful and productive to most people. Redhat is a very weird Linux compnay to me in that they do not promote Linux on the desktop. They only like Server Linux and this is a very distrubing stance to me. I just Biob Young would at least consider it but as far as I know he has not.
Sorry you have not but I do and we have others
that do as well. And we are paid fairly well. Maybe
you just did not look in the right place. Who knows. But the financial industry in using Linux and is paying people to program proprietary programs
for linux everyday. Compnaies like Credit Suiss First Boston and Morgan Stanley.
the ATC600 and ATC 610 look like home entertainment
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components.
The ATC 610 is at the following link:
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/atc/produc