Of course I work for a company that mantains electron microscopes and one of our products is a wafer inspection tool. These just happen to exist inside some of the cleanest cleanrooms on the planet. I think I will take my harddrive there to do the modding:).
I said best computer speakers for a reason. And I do have a nice surround sound system in the other room with Infinity speakers JBL sub and a Harmon Kardon amp which sounds great to me. No I am not an audiophile so $300 for a center channel speaker is enough for me heh. I do not hook my computer up to my system because I 1) do not have a optical digital out to go to my amp from my computer and I don't trust a sound card to do the job. I do have a regular sp/dif digital out but then again trying to isolate the noise a computer throws out on the ground line is hard to do. I would need to lift the ground and use a line conditioner. 2) becuase I don't have a vid card with a nice svideo out to bother. And well I can say alot about the audio codecs because I can do and have heard the difference on my Klipsch speakers.
Well I am just saying the only ones I could not regularly point out were the ogg's and some songs the mp3pro. But the results show quite a few songs doing well with the mp4(quicktime whatever) which I was quite disapointed in. I dont know how in the worl that sounded good to anyone.
Man did you guys even do the test or are you just looking at the results? I did the test with my klipsch speakers and I got nothing like what these crackheads got on this site. Makes me wonder what they were listening to. I was at my fiances house and used her speakers and the worse compression sounded the best. Then I cam home to my beautiful klipsch (best computer speakers I have heard) and the difference was amazing. In most of the tests not only could I see a huge difference but I could tell you which one was which. The only ones I had trouble with were the two oggs and on some files the mp3pro. The oggs tend to increase the highs a tiny bit making them very different than the other compressions that tend to remove highs. The mp3pro on some occasions wasas good or a little better than the oggs. But both oggs where in the top 3 every time I did the test. I call for a redo because I think either people were guessing, using bad speakers or had too much wax in their ears. I did my own test with the blind player with ogg and did the two styles of ogg versus mp3 at 96k and 128k. The 96k was horrible but at 128k you could hardly tell the difference from the 64k ogg files. The two oggs were almost identical in every test. The 128 was a little better in almost every test but at twice the size it was incredible. I also tried then to compress the ogg files as much as I could to 45k max bitrate. Man it still sounded good but on songs with lots of simbols you could see obvious compression.
Bottom line if you use on a regular basis 128k mp3's switch to ogg at 64k without having them side by side you will _NEVER_ know the difference.
Has anyone tried this listening test. Man I am doing it right now and I am awed by the quality of the ogg vorbis compression. On one of the tests 3 were obvious compression artifacts and 2 I couldn't determine which was the compressed one and which was the real one. Both of those ended up being ogg formats. If the highs in the song are fairly constant with some busy lows like in blackwater and flooressence it seems that the other compressions fail miserably but ogg shines through. Great work vorbis dudes. When my band releases some of its new songs on the net they will be in ogg format.
Dude with the optical spdif out use that as your output and hook it to your surround sound system in the living room. Thats what I would do then just leave them mapped to inputs. I am sure my reciever can decode the audio better (harmon kardon avr300). Anyone know if the digital audio is capable of streaming a DTS signal?
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Does this mean we might see mythtv on xbox? Now then I would definately buy an xbox!!!! MythTV
Of course I work for a company that mantains electron microscopes and one of our products is a wafer inspection tool. These just happen to exist inside some of the cleanest cleanrooms on the planet. I think I will take my harddrive there to do the modding :).
I said best computer speakers for a reason. And I do have a nice surround sound system in the other room with Infinity speakers JBL sub and a Harmon Kardon amp which sounds great to me. No I am not an audiophile so $300 for a center channel speaker is enough for me heh. I do not hook my computer up to my system because I 1) do not have a optical digital out to go to my amp from my computer and I don't trust a sound card to do the job. I do have a regular sp/dif digital out but then again trying to isolate the noise a computer throws out on the ground line is hard to do. I would need to lift the ground and use a line conditioner. 2) becuase I don't have a vid card with a nice svideo out to bother. And well I can say alot about the audio codecs because I can do and have heard the difference on my Klipsch speakers.
sorry cymbal hehe hooked on phonics werks four mee
Well I am just saying the only ones I could not regularly point out were the ogg's and some songs the mp3pro. But the results show quite a few songs doing well with the mp4(quicktime whatever) which I was quite disapointed in. I dont know how in the worl that sounded good to anyone.
Man did you guys even do the test or are you just looking at the results? I did the test with my klipsch speakers and I got nothing like what these crackheads got on this site. Makes me wonder what they were listening to. I was at my fiances house and used her speakers and the worse compression sounded the best. Then I cam home to my beautiful klipsch (best computer speakers I have heard) and the difference was amazing. In most of the tests not only could I see a huge difference but I could tell you which one was which. The only ones I had trouble with were the two oggs and on some files the mp3pro. The oggs tend to increase the highs a tiny bit making them very different than the other compressions that tend to remove highs. The mp3pro on some occasions wasas good or a little better than the oggs. But both oggs where in the top 3 every time I did the test. I call for a redo because I think either people were guessing, using bad speakers or had too much wax in their ears. I did my own test with the blind player with ogg and did the two styles of ogg versus mp3 at 96k and 128k. The 96k was horrible but at 128k you could hardly tell the difference from the 64k ogg files. The two oggs were almost identical in every test. The 128 was a little better in almost every test but at twice the size it was incredible. I also tried then to compress the ogg files as much as I could to 45k max bitrate. Man it still sounded good but on songs with lots of simbols you could see obvious compression. Bottom line if you use on a regular basis 128k mp3's switch to ogg at 64k without having them side by side you will _NEVER_ know the difference.
Has anyone tried this listening test. Man I am doing it right now and I am awed by the quality of the ogg vorbis compression. On one of the tests 3 were obvious compression artifacts and 2 I couldn't determine which was the compressed one and which was the real one. Both of those ended up being ogg formats. If the highs in the song are fairly constant with some busy lows like in blackwater and flooressence it seems that the other compressions fail miserably but ogg shines through. Great work vorbis dudes. When my band releases some of its new songs on the net they will be in ogg format.
Dude with the optical spdif out use that as your output and hook it to your surround sound system in the living room. Thats what I would do then just leave them mapped to inputs. I am sure my reciever can decode the audio better (harmon kardon avr300). Anyone know if the digital audio is capable of streaming a DTS signal?