As usual the icons are beautiful, but I sure hope that widget style isn't the default theme.. it's horrible! Almost looks like the worst of Motif and Windows combined.
I also noticed a 1.4.1 release is planned ("Bug fix and UI polish follow-on to 1.4: Not yet released"), is there any schedule for that one or is it mostly forgotten with 2.0 approaching?
I'm not too happy with the capital X and small k myself. Although it helps to have the right fonts (Microsofts free web font collection) installed and to have a good XftConfig, anti-aliasing isn't 100% perfect yet.
This is mostly an issue with XFree. The noticable improvements between 4.0 and 4.1 should give hope for even better results in the future. I've heard from XFree86 CVS users that there are indeed many more improvements in several areas. Looking forward to XFree 4.2, or the next 4.1.
February 20: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Release Candidate 1
February 25: KDE 3.0 Final release*
March 15: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Final
* (or RC 2 in case it is necessary)
Notice how the planned GNOME releases are closer together than the KDE releases. Is there any indication when GNOME 2.1 will be out? KDE usually takes 4/5 months between releases, so I expect KDE 3.1 in July, with a 3.1.1 bugfix release in August and of course a 3.0.1 bugfix release at the end of March of begin of April.
GNOME did not have as many recent releases as KDE has with the 2.x series (GNOME underwent the same large overhaul as KDE did during the transition to KDE2), so what kind of a release schedulet can we expect of GNOME after 2.0?
How hard can it be to create a client-side wallet?
Keep all the data local, but allow third parties to access it. I choose that SomeShop.com may read my creditcard and address info and if it changes, they automatically have the new data when they request it.
Even better, they would not have to store my details themselves. I do a lot of e-shopping and there are quite a few e-commerce shops that store my creditcard info. To be honest, I couldn't even name all the stores that do without going through my creditcard invoices.
The FSF or another capable OSS team should join this Alliance (that, or I should stop being lazy, start being capable and start coding).
I have no problem with third parties accessing an encrypted database through encrypted channels, served by an open source applications running on my own server. Yes, it's still vulnerable, but it puts the vulnerability and control in *my* hands.
Hm, but I will continue to be lazy. And the FSF would never create a cross-platform wallet that integrates with the 90% desktop OS. I guess our best hopes are with this Alliance?
(on the other hand, I've placed hundreds of orders in the past years with a creditcard and unless I'm really making so much money that I don't even notice, my card hasn't been abused a single time)
The only legal way to listen to music is to buy a grossly overpriced CD that the actual artist MAYBE gets $0.10 from the sale of, and play it on your non-computer-based CD player.
I hate RIAA practices as much as the rest of us, but please understand that artists signing contracts are not poor, mistreated people.
They gain a lot from record deals. Perhaps they get 100x less money per CD, but if they are able to sell more than 100x the amount of CDs, they are better off. Ten thousand CDs at $5 profit each is less than millions of CDs at $0.10 profit each. I'm sure Britney did the math. On top of that, she gets to date a Westlife member.
Who wants to surf the Internet with Konqueror? Sounds like a death metal band.
First came the (Netscape) navigator, then the (MS Internet) explorer, then the conqueror.
You might dislike the adjusted spelling which emphasises on using KDE technology, but Konqueror is actually one of the better names used for an open source project.
Or would you have preferred KDE Internet Suite 2001 Professional Edition including HTTP Data Exchange Manager 2001 and HTML Renderer 2001 SE (with CSS Plus!) ?;-0
Names like Active Directory and Intellimirror are just as meaningless to me. Is Active Directory something to store the files I am working on right now? What exactly is that directory doing with my files anyway? Does it work with passive FTP? Can I use Intellimirror with my AMD as well? Is it a proxy/cache server?
That said, I do understand how the phrase smooth fonts is more suitable for most users than anti-aliasing.
But eventually users don't care about the name. Noone avoided MP3's because they weren't named.DigitalMusic, right?
I was trying to make a funny, but apparently some moderators mistook my smiley for a picture of a troll. Oh well. I should be more careful with jokes that could be mistaken for Linux critism.
Makes me wonder what really happened five years ago in Germany though, when KDE started.;-)
(That said, you're probably some sort of anti-American left-wing Euro-trash...just what part of Europe are you from? [guntruths.com])
I'm not anti-American, left (but not wing), Euro (but not trash) and I had a good laugh at that poster.
It was the US military that helped freeing Europe, not the civilians. Part of World War II ended due to the nuke bombings on Japan, by your analogy every American citizen should be able to own a nuke.
There are plenty of methods to hide data in plain sight with images and such. If I had real secrets, they wouldn't go unencrypted on a filesystem where only the kernel prevents access through a password. Or even store it in encrypted files or filesystems for which the password could be lost.
If I really had to hide data, I'd make sure noone would even see I was hiding something.
Sometimes this means doing cool things, like open-sourcing the core of their new OS.
As far as I know, BSD was already open in various incarnations. But the next time I build a proprietary layer above an open source project, I'll hire you for marketing so I can claim I was the one that made the core open source in the first place!:-)
Actually, KDE didn't implement task bar grouping until the functionality was seen in Windows XP screenshots.
It just happens to be that KDE released it earlier than Microsoft, having a major release every 4 to 5 months instead of every two years. (or, in case you live on the bleeding edge and use CVS, stuff is released instantly)
Still waiting for Microsoft to implement magnetic borders (as seen in WinAmp, XMMS; or all applications if you use KWin as window manager).
While it has worked pretty well for KDE (which is a really top-down, organized project)
That's not true. KDE (nor GNOME) have a top-down organization. Join any of the mailinglists to find out.
Both projects are made by all of the developers. Offer a good idea, some patches or plain new code. If it servers a purpose, it *will* be used. There is no small group of elite coders who make decisions, everything is discussed on the lists beforehand and the voice of reason usually wins.
Of course once some policies (release features, schedules) have been made, there will be a top-down wave to make sure the policies are enforced. A large concensus can still change these policies though, such as delaying a release for one week because one or two critical applications required a bugfix.
Both projects do have some key contributors who have a larger say in some things (not officialy, but their opinion is simply weighted more by the rest) but I have not ever seen anyone (on the KDE lists, at least) force the project in a certain direction.
And that's how it should be. It works. RMS in the board of directors of GNOME might severly disrupt that harmony. I for one wouldn't like to contribute code because RMS thinks I should, I'd like to contribute code because I concur with the decisions of the majority of developers (and vocal users).
By they way, Xft works for KDE because it's implemented within Qt. Any Qt application has support for anti-aliasing under Linux (try Opera). The reason it works is because it's implemented well by the Qt developers, probably not because of top-down decisions.
An entire day of a human life could be recorded in perfect detail (with no compression) on a 120 GB disk. So there is a limit to how much information you could ever want to store.
Remember cookies and Carnivore and marketing? Storage is not all about storing information about yourself. Storing information about others is a lot more interesting, usually.
It really all depends on the system administrator.
At work we've got a system administrator for the Windows 2000 machines and he knows what he's doing. Result: the machines run as smoothly and stable as our UNIX boxes.
Heck, when the Linux team have a bad day, more smoothly and stable.
Technically, I completely dig UNIX. Idealogically, I completely distrust anything from Redmond. Strategically, sysadmin skills are all that matter.
During a (anti-)DMCA presentation at school, the smartest question I got was
the following: is fair use a birth right or simply a result of the sale
contract?
If it's the latter, there's nothing we can do but informing people and
refusing to buy products with fscked up sale contracts (limiting fair use).
Maybe fair use is nothing more than a tradition and something we've grown
used to. And not "right", by all means. Is the limitation in copyright
(which it is) written in the books of law?
Or better. If you have constructive ideas, please go to the websites of KDE or GNOME and join a development, artist or UI design team.
If you don't want Linux to look like XP, create your own theme/style/icons and behavior configuration ruleset. If you do want Linux to look like XP, do the same.
WINE was made because Linux users needed Windows apps, why can't Mozilla or Konqueror be made to impersonate IE's functionality?
KHTML's policy is to render valid HTML with a strict parser and quirky HTML with hacks that allow IE-only HTML. Konqueror's user agent can be set to IE for sites that actually check browser version instead of capabilities.
If sites seriously don't work, report a bug for KDE or Mozilla.
the Sun GNOME team was more familiar with C than with C++
Not only that, judging from their name I would also think they were far more familiar with GNOME than with KDE.;-)
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KDE supports XDND and it _should_ be possible to drag-and-drop from and to GTK/GNOME applications. My.ogg's in Konqueror drop on xmms and its playlist just fine.
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The Linux community needs to ban KDE from spreading.
Ah, but just like Linux itself, KDE is under the GPL and thus a cancer, so it will continue to spread.:)
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I also noticed a 1.4.1 release is planned ("Bug fix and UI polish follow-on to 1.4: Not yet released"), is there any schedule for that one or is it mostly forgotten with 2.0 approaching?
This is mostly an issue with XFree. The noticable improvements between 4.0 and 4.1 should give hope for even better results in the future. I've heard from XFree86 CVS users that there are indeed many more improvements in several areas. Looking forward to XFree 4.2, or the next 4.1.
* (or RC 2 in case it is necessary)
Notice how the planned GNOME releases are closer together than the KDE releases. Is there any indication when GNOME 2.1 will be out? KDE usually takes 4/5 months between releases, so I expect KDE 3.1 in July, with a 3.1.1 bugfix release in August and of course a 3.0.1 bugfix release at the end of March of begin of April.
GNOME did not have as many recent releases as KDE has with the 2.x series (GNOME underwent the same large overhaul as KDE did during the transition to KDE2), so what kind of a release schedulet can we expect of GNOME after 2.0?
Keep all the data local, but allow third parties to access it. I choose that SomeShop.com may read my creditcard and address info and if it changes, they automatically have the new data when they request it.
Even better, they would not have to store my details themselves. I do a lot of e-shopping and there are quite a few e-commerce shops that store my creditcard info. To be honest, I couldn't even name all the stores that do without going through my creditcard invoices.
The FSF or another capable OSS team should join this Alliance (that, or I should stop being lazy, start being capable and start coding).
I have no problem with third parties accessing an encrypted database through encrypted channels, served by an open source applications running on my own server. Yes, it's still vulnerable, but it puts the vulnerability and control in *my* hands.
Hm, but I will continue to be lazy. And the FSF would never create a cross-platform wallet that integrates with the 90% desktop OS. I guess our best hopes are with this Alliance?
(on the other hand, I've placed hundreds of orders in the past years with a creditcard and unless I'm really making so much money that I don't even notice, my card hasn't been abused a single time)
I hate RIAA practices as much as the rest of us, but please understand that artists signing contracts are not poor, mistreated people.
They gain a lot from record deals. Perhaps they get 100x less money per CD, but if they are able to sell more than 100x the amount of CDs, they are better off. Ten thousand CDs at $5 profit each is less than millions of CDs at $0.10 profit each. I'm sure Britney did the math. On top of that, she gets to date a Westlife member.
The "poor artists" argument just doesn't hold up.
First came the (Netscape) navigator, then the (MS Internet) explorer, then the conqueror.
You might dislike the adjusted spelling which emphasises on using KDE technology, but Konqueror is actually one of the better names used for an open source project.
Or would you have preferred KDE Internet Suite 2001 Professional Edition including HTTP Data Exchange Manager 2001 and HTML Renderer 2001 SE (with CSS Plus!) ?
Names like Active Directory and Intellimirror are just as meaningless to me. Is Active Directory something to store the files I am working on right now? What exactly is that directory doing with my files anyway? Does it work with passive FTP? Can I use Intellimirror with my AMD as well? Is it a proxy/cache server?
That said, I do understand how the phrase smooth fonts is more suitable for most users than anti-aliasing.
But eventually users don't care about the name. Noone avoided MP3's because they weren't named
I was trying to make a funny, but apparently some moderators mistook my smiley for a picture of a troll. Oh well. I should be more careful with jokes that could be mistaken for Linux critism.
Makes me wonder what really happened five years ago in Germany though, when KDE started.
Makes you wonder what _really_ happened in Finland ten years ago, doesn't it? :-)
I'm not anti-American, left (but not wing), Euro (but not trash) and I had a good laugh at that poster.
It was the US military that helped freeing Europe, not the civilians. Part of World War II ended due to the nuke bombings on Japan, by your analogy every American citizen should be able to own a nuke.
I'm sorry, the Declaration of Human Rights overrules patent law. At least one thing does.
There are plenty of methods to hide data in plain sight with images and such. If I had real secrets, they wouldn't go unencrypted on a filesystem where only the kernel prevents access through a password. Or even store it in encrypted files or filesystems for which the password could be lost.
If I really had to hide data, I'd make sure noone would even see I was hiding something.
MS takes a bigger loss when you don't buy a unit, though.
But.. we can all mention some proprietary developers who ignore their customers alltogether.
No, but most patents are, especially ones with regards to software.
As far as I know, BSD was already open in various incarnations. But the next time I build a proprietary layer above an open source project, I'll hire you for marketing so I can claim I was the one that made the core open source in the first place!
It just happens to be that KDE released it earlier than Microsoft, having a major release every 4 to 5 months instead of every two years. (or, in case you live on the bleeding edge and use CVS, stuff is released instantly)
Still waiting for Microsoft to implement magnetic borders (as seen in WinAmp, XMMS; or all applications if you use KWin as window manager).
That's not true. KDE (nor GNOME) have a top-down organization. Join any of the mailinglists to find out.
Both projects are made by all of the developers. Offer a good idea, some patches or plain new code. If it servers a purpose, it *will* be used. There is no small group of elite coders who make decisions, everything is discussed on the lists beforehand and the voice of reason usually wins.
Of course once some policies (release features, schedules) have been made, there will be a top-down wave to make sure the policies are enforced. A large concensus can still change these policies though, such as delaying a release for one week because one or two critical applications required a bugfix.
Both projects do have some key contributors who have a larger say in some things (not officialy, but their opinion is simply weighted more by the rest) but I have not ever seen anyone (on the KDE lists, at least) force the project in a certain direction.
And that's how it should be. It works. RMS in the board of directors of GNOME might severly disrupt that harmony. I for one wouldn't like to contribute code because RMS thinks I should, I'd like to contribute code because I concur with the decisions of the majority of developers (and vocal users).
By they way, Xft works for KDE because it's implemented within Qt. Any Qt application has support for anti-aliasing under Linux (try Opera). The reason it works is because it's implemented well by the Qt developers, probably not because of top-down decisions.
Remember cookies and Carnivore and marketing? Storage is not all about storing information about yourself. Storing information about others is a lot more interesting, usually.
It really all depends on the system administrator.
At work we've got a system administrator for the Windows 2000 machines and he knows what he's doing. Result: the machines run as smoothly and stable as our UNIX boxes.
Heck, when the Linux team have a bad day, more smoothly and stable.
Technically, I completely dig UNIX. Idealogically, I completely distrust anything from Redmond. Strategically, sysadmin skills are all that matter.
the following: is fair use a birth right or simply a result of the sale
contract?
If it's the latter, there's nothing we can do but informing people and
refusing to buy products with fscked up sale contracts (limiting fair use).
Maybe fair use is nothing more than a tradition and something we've grown
used to. And not "right", by all means. Is the limitation in copyright
(which it is) written in the books of law?
If you don't want Linux to look like XP, create your own theme/style/icons and behavior configuration ruleset. If you do want Linux to look like XP, do the same.
KHTML's policy is to render valid HTML with a strict parser and quirky HTML with hacks that allow IE-only HTML. Konqueror's user agent can be set to IE for sites that actually check browser version instead of capabilities.
If sites seriously don't work, report a bug for KDE or Mozilla.
Not only that, judging from their name I would also think they were far more familiar with GNOME than with KDE.
KDE supports XDND and it _should_ be possible to drag-and-drop from and to GTK/GNOME applications. My .ogg's in Konqueror drop on xmms and its playlist just fine.
Ah, but just like Linux itself, KDE is under the GPL and thus a cancer, so it will continue to spread.
(for completeness, kdelibs is LGPL)