It only works that way because the ISP oversold their pipe.
If your service is affected by others in the neighbourhood, then they need to upgrade the routers in the neighbourhood, split it into two subnets, get another DS3 pipe in, or give everyone a partial refund for the service they weren't delivered.
It's more like kicking a frequent flyer off a airplane because they oversold the flight.
"Sorry bub, you fly around too much. This other guy deserves a chance to sit in seat 15A. No refund."
Same thing.
A net connection isn't communal property. It's a service contracted to individuals.
And the "Gee Whiz! We didn't know anyone would actually use it!" crap from the cable co's frankly isnt my problem. So they label their high end users 'thieves' and 'bandwidth hogs'. Pure FUD and utter bullshit.
If their business model sucks that badly, let em go bankrupt. I payed for unlimited, I'm using unlimited.
Open up the cable to competitors, just like the phone system was opened up.
There's no reason Comcast need be the only provider in town who can send stuff down that coaxial wire. It isn't the same as TV.
Let other ISPs have access to it too, and let me decide how I want my data routed.
Right now it just makes financial sense to act the way they are: every 'heavy' user you boot off can be replaced with a few dozen grandmas who only read email. Much cheaper than putting an infrastructure in place that can support the amount of service they've (over)sold.
> Whats funny is people who think he has any obligation to be either of those things.
Never said he did. If he wants to run another mac fan site, more power to him. Though he can remove the "news for nerds" thing, it's pretty misleading.
And you're right. There are much better news sources, and much better resources for all things technical.
The trolls are whats left to enjoy about this site. Though, even they've been lacking in quality as of late. So I guess it's good that Taco throws them a bone like this once in awhile.
Because you bought yourself a shiney iBook and want to cheerlead for Apple at every opportunity.
I'm sure there were other submissions of this story without the 'MS is gay!' dipshit comments. But Taco chose this one. Which shows simultaneously what an objective "journalist" he is, and how he's an insightful "computer expert".
Horses don't 'masturbate'. This was actually to prevent someone from sneaking into your stable, giving your 2 million dollar stallion a handjob, and stealing "the stuff that dreams are made of".
You'd be surprised what a tube of good horse semen is worth these days.
Actually, it was because a months-long journey in a pine box under the hot southern sun would yield a gooey pile of rancid flesh delivered to the family, which was considered highly disrespectful.
Of course, the run of the mill soldier was still shipped in the pine box. This treatment was afforded to the officers and exceptional 'war heroes'.
> In Slashdot, he would be already at (-1, Offtopic)
Nah, if you haven't noticed, anything posted thats anti-bush, anti-america, anti-MSFT or anti-congress gets modded up to (+5 Insightful) even if the topic is "Ask Slashdot: Should I Spit or Swallow?"
> If you don't like it, start your own ISP and try to give everyone 2Mbit unrestricted connections, reliably, for $40/month
So what? Thats what they sold me. If they cant deliver, let them go bankrupt.
"Sorry Jack, that car you payed 20,000$ for - turns out we cant cost effectively provide wheels for that price"
It only works that way because the ISP oversold their pipe.
If your service is affected by others in the neighbourhood, then they need to upgrade the routers in the neighbourhood, split it into two subnets, get another DS3 pipe in, or give everyone a partial refund for the service they weren't delivered.
It's more like kicking a frequent flyer off a airplane because they oversold the flight.
"Sorry bub, you fly around too much. This other guy deserves a chance to sit in seat 15A. No refund."
Same thing.
A net connection isn't communal property. It's a service contracted to individuals.
And the "Gee Whiz! We didn't know anyone would actually use it!" crap from the cable co's frankly isnt my problem. So they label their high end users 'thieves' and 'bandwidth hogs'. Pure FUD and utter bullshit.
If their business model sucks that badly, let em go bankrupt. I payed for unlimited, I'm using unlimited.
Ah.. Free-market competition.
Like my choice between Comcast and Comcast Pro.
I can now 'upgrade' to the service I originally signed a contract for (being able to VPN to my office, among others).
And it'll only cost me twice what I agreed to pay only a few short months ago.
Sweet!
I listen to you and hear Homer saying "Extended Warranty! How can I lose!"
Ever get forced to pay an increased cable bill for new channels you never asked for, ordered or wanted?
Gee thanks. Now BET is part of my basic service, and costs me 5 bucks a month - whether I want it or not.
Good thing they stopped offering HBO to people like me who refuse to 'upgrade' to digital.
It's not about "a right", it's about unfair (and illegal when caught) business practices.
Open up the cable to competitors, just like the phone system was opened up.
There's no reason Comcast need be the only provider in town who can send stuff down that coaxial wire. It isn't the same as TV.
Let other ISPs have access to it too, and let me decide how I want my data routed.
Right now it just makes financial sense to act the way they are: every 'heavy' user you boot off can be replaced with a few dozen grandmas who only read email. Much cheaper than putting an infrastructure in place that can support the amount of service they've (over)sold.
And you've bought into their FUD. I wonder if you realise you're talking in circles.
To wit;
> they're handing it out to us for a flat rate for unlimited usage.
> but it's a real pain in the ass to find out that people are downloading gigabytes of
They paid for unlimited usage too. Yet you want them limited?
Perhaps its the cable companies fault that they oversold the bandwidth that they have? Naw. Couldn't be that.
It was a Compaq.
I wasn't dating her for her brains.
if you read the article, you'd see thats pretty much what it was.
Hi-larious, I guess.
> True, they can't enter your house, but they can steal your pants.
People don't understand credit. The word is repossess. Until you pay for 'em, they're VISA's pants.
And I have nothing more to say, ms lameness filter
How's bout 'the editor formally known as asshat'?
Simple.
These are asshats who's favorite TV show was preempted by news reports that day.
So they easily compare to this - their favorite website being temporarily.
It's about how it affected 'them', not the world.
> Whats funny is people who think he has any obligation to be either of those things.
Never said he did. If he wants to run another mac fan site, more power to him. Though he can remove the "news for nerds" thing, it's pretty misleading.
And you're right. There are much better news sources, and much better resources for all things technical.
The trolls are whats left to enjoy about this site. Though, even they've been lacking in quality as of late. So I guess it's good that Taco throws them a bone like this once in awhile.
Naw its not liking linux and hating windows. Since Taco bought himself an iBook, he likes Macs and hates PCs.
Funny thing is.. Look at the 2nd sentence of the first paragraph of Apples powerbook blurb.
"The PowerBook G4 easily runs everything from Microsoft Office to Final Cut Pro to Adobe Photoshop"
Looks like Apple users don't do any "real work" either.
Because you bought yourself a shiney iBook and want to cheerlead for Apple at every opportunity.
I'm sure there were other submissions of this story without the 'MS is gay!' dipshit comments. But Taco chose this one. Which shows simultaneously what an objective "journalist" he is, and how he's an insightful "computer expert".
> "Sadly, it runs windows so no one will actually want to use one for real work, but it looks pretty cool for minesweeper"
What a moronic, uninformed, asshatted, mac-fanboy troll of a post. Way to go Taco.
I've heard of this before.
Horses don't 'masturbate'. This was actually to prevent someone from sneaking into your stable, giving your 2 million dollar stallion a handjob, and stealing "the stuff that dreams are made of".
You'd be surprised what a tube of good horse semen is worth these days.
"white folks" discovered embalming?
Gee, I didn't know whitey was around in ancient egypt.
Of course, being incinerated on a tribal funeral pyre could possibly 'finish you off' too.
Actually, it was because a months-long journey in a pine box under the hot southern sun would yield a gooey pile of rancid flesh delivered to the family, which was considered highly disrespectful.
Of course, the run of the mill soldier was still shipped in the pine box. This treatment was afforded to the officers and exceptional 'war heroes'.
Mothra was the good guy - and the winner, BTW.
> Yeah, but tux is cool.
tux is the lamest mascot *EVER*.
I'd rather be trapped in an elevator with Ellen Feiss and the Dude-wheres-my-Dell guy than have that stupid penguin spray painted on my sidewalk.
BTW, this "original, innovative idea" has been used for 50+ years. It's a really old marketing gimmick.
Think it hurts to appeal to the 'bad-ass anti-establishment' gen-y'ers?
So now IBM is the 'laid back hippie' company, and MSFT is the 'bad assed party guy' company.
Apple is still the "Mack-in-what?" company.
How does a post with the topic "Huh?" get (+4 Insightful)? Not a troll, just wondering.
> In Slashdot, he would be already at (-1, Offtopic)
Nah, if you haven't noticed, anything posted thats anti-bush, anti-america, anti-MSFT or anti-congress gets modded up to (+5 Insightful) even if the topic is "Ask Slashdot: Should I Spit or Swallow?"
The Gates foundation is a charitable orginization. It has nothing to do with Microsoft except that the MS founder started it.
General Mills pumps a ton of charity dollars into various anti-hunger orginizations. But they don't force the charities to spend it on Lucky Charms.
So save the moronic MSFT-centric conspiracy theories until MSFT hands out iBooks to its employees.