Nah, you aren't a barbarian, just misguided. If someone whats to poison themselves with drugs, then good! Get them out of the gene pool.
However, the problem I have with the situation is that the illegality of drugs means that there are no controls on who the drugs are promoted to. Hense the targeting of poor comunities, where the quality of life makes getting someone into drugs much easier.
Legalise the lot. Have only doctors prescribe the nastier stuff. Bye dealers, bye crime, bye selling crack to 12 year old kids. Having them illegal provides no benefit whatsoever, and makes many relatively safe substances deadly.
We're one of the few nations in the world where you can still wave a Nazi or Communist flag.
That's simply not true, and hasn't been since the sixtys. You go doing that in the USA, and you'll find your name being flagged up for all sorts of things. You will be hasstled at airports, investigated as a terrorist and so on. This is why things like the Patriot act (back on topic) are inherently bad. You can't claim "freedom of speach", if using that freedom has negative consequences for you.
Don't you remember the communist which-hunts of the west? Being a Commie in the USA used to make you more at risk than the muslims are right now. This freedom is an illusion, it has mostly gone away.
Eh? And this tripe got modded up? Perhaps you mean "tyrany of Stallinism" or "tryany of Mao"?
There is nothing inherently wrong with socialism, and some of the best countries to live in in the world have socialist systems. Sociallism is supposed to serve the common man, while capitalism serves the rich. And the current state of govenrment in the USA is hardly an advert for the success of capitalism.
At one time they did on a widespread basis. I suppose that it's possible that some elite black ops type units are still issued them.
The pilot that repeativly straffed friendly troops in Afganistan was out of is skull on speed. Here is an article on it.
The same is going on in Iraq. Quote from this article:
In the LAST Gulf war more than half of all American pilots used amphetamines to keep them going on long missions. And they did the same in the latest war in Iraq.
Speed and cigarettes have been a part of the standard rations since WW2.
Which is the only thing in the article which makes sense.
Google is not relevant for p2p really. p2p is too dynamic, hosts go up and down all the time, that's partially the point. Google works by trawling the net offline, and adding to it's database. If they were to go into p2p searches, they'd need to re-engineer the whole system.
The only thing Google has going in this respect is it's brand name, which could be the icing on the cake, instead of the technology itself.
Wow, this guy must watch Fox. Have you ever considered why they attack? It's not hatred of "freedom" or the whole religious thing. There is a way to stop it...simply stop pissing them off in the first place!! Of course, the present "solution" doing the rounds right now is actively creating the next generations of terrorists, by continuing the same mistakes. Do you think the sons & daughters of the 100,000 recently dead Iraqis are going to have a love affair with the west? No, they will simply bay for blood like many in the west have done in recent years.
To try to "wipe them out, completely", you would only create more hatred and ultimately more terrorism for your children to endure. We are suffering right now from our parents mistakes in the middle-east of the past 50 years, and we still haven't learned not to screw people over for a quick buck.
in the name of their God only confirms to the world that their "God" is the Devil himself.
Shit, just realised you are a believer yourself. The is no point in taking this argument any further, you are clearly against common sense and reason. God, Devil, Adam & Eve and the tree of knowledge, jeez you religious guys are funny!! Onward Christian soldiers!! Let's kill all the Muslims!!
Government propaganda is issued against Taiwan, pretty much from birth. This has long been done to ensure that the Chinese army is ready and the citizenry are in support for any military action the government deems necessary. This has worked for many a decade, since the two geographic locations are disparate; a lifetime away for most of the citizenry.
"We have always been at war with Eurasia", George Orwell, "1984". Blah blah blah.
What you are saying is not unique to China/Taiwan. This sort of thing has been around for thousands of years, and is the cornerstone of having an army in an imperial country. It's the basis of propaganda, along with nationalism, where you teach "we are the best".
And I'm sure most of the people reading this post can relate to this in their own country in some way, either recently or historically. Any war has to be backed by propaganda, otherwise how do you expect people to be willing to die for you?
Ironically, most of the comments on/. whenever China crops up, show that most of us are brought up to hate China from birth.;-)
I'm having problems with the beeb website at the moment, so I cannot follow your link.
However, legitimate film distribution over the net has been around for many years. Atomfilms and Shockwave have have had short films and I'm sure the odd feature film on their website for at least five years. Jeez, the first time I ever saw Cartman getting an anal probe was on Shockwave.com, six months before the first series of South Park aired in the UK.
I highly recommend Atomfilms site, lot's of good films to watch, free last time I checked.
What may be unique to the article's film, or the Cleese one you reference, is that it may be the first one that you have to pay for. But even then, Ardmaan's "Wallace and Grommit - Cracking Contraptions" was available only online, and you had to pay for it. That was about a year ago, IIRC.
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Jeez, you are either a very good troll, or a bit slow today.
First, the existance of the UKUSA pack is shown in section 5.4.2 of the EU report, with documented references. So, there is no doubt that there is an agreement, above and beyond the normal relationship between nation states intelligence communities. The following, lifted from section 5.1 summarises these "clues":
The trail of clues which constitutes evidence of this kind is made up of three elements:
evidence that the foreign intelligence services in the UKUSA states intercept private and business communications;
evidence that interception stations operated by the UKUSA states are to be found in the parts of the world where they would be needed in the light of the technical requirements of the civilian satellite communication system;
evidence that there is a closer than usual association between the intelligence services of these states. For the purposes of proving the existence of such an association, it is irrelevant whether this extends to the acceptance from partners of applications for the interception of messages which are then forwarded to them in the form of unevaluated raw material. This question is only relevant when investigating the hierarchies within such an interception association.
Also check out section 10.7, where many known examples of industrial espionage are listed. Most aren't directly related to Echelon however, but some are and in many cases the source of the data/wiretap is unknown. Take a look at the report. Do it now. Or stopping asking for proof when I am clearly showing it to you. Even a glance through the table of contents would have highlighted these fundamental points.
Using an elite hidden network for industrial spying is clearly against the law in both countries. Now, as I said, it is illegal for each nation to spy on it's own civilians. So, are you suggesting to me that (e.g.) the UK has no interest in intercepted communications of (e.g.) terrorist activities in Britain. And if the USA was to analyse the data and spot a risk to the UK, are you suggesting that the info isn't passed between the agencies? Given todays climate, that's pretty damn obvious that it's happening.
The EU report has the following, taken from the conclusion:
The US intelligence services do not merely gather general economic intelligence, but also intercept communications between firms, particularly where contracts are being awarded, and they justify this on the grounds of combating attempted bribery.
But that's makes it legal, OK? We may actually be splitting hairs here. This is what makes me think you are trolling. See, I never actually said they are breaking laws. The agreement is all about getting around the laws. They are violating the spirit of the law, but not the laws themselves. That's kinda the point of what I said!
Things are a bit different nowadays. Before it was widely acknowledged that this level of spying were possible, those in on it were free to give data to their business allegencies as they saw fit. However, in this age of scandal and improved awareness, I'm certain that the industrial espionage of Echelon is seriously curtailed, or at the very least limited to only a few groups. The risk of a major scandal could destroy important trading links between entire continents, and neither side what's to see that happen.
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could you please present some evidence to back up your assertion that the United States and United Kingdom are colluding to break the laws of both nations?
OK, so clearly you didn't follow the link I put in my post, where it pretty much says what I said on the main page
But, OK, that's just a website, anyone can post anything they want. So, here is the a BBC Q&A on it, and the results of a search on their site.
But, you may not trust the BBC for some reason or other. So here is the official EU report on it. It was released publically, IIRC, on the 13th Sept 2001, but obviously droped off the media's scope because of the events a few days before. Unfortunate timing, no big conspiracy there.
Echelon is real, and it has been admited to by several governments, excluding the USA/UK. It monitors faxes, phone calls and now the internet. It's not a tin-foil hat fantasy.
Oh, and meta-mods, please sort out the confused mod who gave me a "flamebait" point in my parent post above. I posted factual information that is both ontopic and relevant.
Because it's true? But of course everything must be invented by an American unless proof is provided.
You're an idiot.
He's not an idiot. It's just the way everyone's educational system works. Lot's of flag-waving and chants of "we are the best". Go and ask various people from Britain, Japan, USA and Cuba how WW2 or the Cuban missile crisis started, and you'll get entirely different answers from each. No one wants to admit they are at fault, or that they didn't think of something first.
Propaganda begins in the first grade. The catholics have know this for centuries.
Your native country hardly determines your ability to invent something.
Not entirely true. Sure, for many ideas that is the case, but often funding and education are most important. Without these, the idea would have either never been thought of, or would have fizzled out due to lack of interest.
That's why the USA is the worlds number one at warfare. Your government is willing through lots of money at research for weaponry, so most American inventions in the last 50 years are focused on the art of war. Even the internet falls under this umbrella.
Joseph Swann invented and demonstrated a practical lightbulb several years before Edison.
Edison was mostly a patent thief, although he did have a few ideas of his own. If he had been around today, he would be hated more by the Slashdot crowd than SCO is.
Excuse me? Can you say "killer app"? Would you have the net at home, or more importantly, would your non-geek friends have it if it wasn't for WWW?
If www is worth arguing about as a British "invention" you've already lost the argument.
Oh, we can go back further than that. Packet switching, the basis of TCP, was invented in the UK. The US funded Arpanet is "just another protocol following the examples of many before it.".
But we are getting silly now. We could tribute the entire thing to Volta, you want to go back far enough!!
Surely this Cuban DIY amphibious creation has a much higher geek factor?;-)
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No Chinese carrier is going to allow the US government to tap in. Heck, even British Telecom probably wouldn't let them
Welcome to the USA/UK pact. It's illegal in both countries for the inteligence communities to spy on their own citizens. We spy on yours, you spy on ours, data exchanged, problem solved.
Or have we found a Slashdotter that isn't aware of Echelon. Surely not!!
That sucks. I recently visited some student halls in Glasgow for a party that had a 100 meg switched internal network. I didn't ask if they had to pay for it though, and I've no idea what the contention ratio would be for the outside pipe. I was very impressed to see the ethernet ports in each room though.
Also, some people in these games are too nice. Monopoly and Risk may be some of the worst offenders. Generally, people don't finish other players off when they can.
If the game was played in a more cut-throat way, it'd be a lot shorter.
Is saving sensitive documents in a directory that's read/write restricted to people in the Finance group not good enough? It seems to work just fine here.
Depends on how good your staff/security is. A virus/exploit, reply-all cockup or a misplaced disk all blow directory access out of the water. A much better system would be who can open the doc in the first place.
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However, the problem I have with the situation is that the illegality of drugs means that there are no controls on who the drugs are promoted to. Hense the targeting of poor comunities, where the quality of life makes getting someone into drugs much easier.
Legalise the lot. Have only doctors prescribe the nastier stuff. Bye dealers, bye crime, bye selling crack to 12 year old kids. Having them illegal provides no benefit whatsoever, and makes many relatively safe substances deadly.
You don't get out of your country much. Name one amenities that the US has that other western countries don't have.
And as this is a tech site, I'd like to point out that most other countries are ahead of the US in consumer technology.
Of course, this goes against the propaganda you grow up with. USA! USA! USA! To us, you look as silly as the Chineese did with their little red books.
That's true for most of the US allies. Any problems, just send them to Camp Xray.
That's simply not true, and hasn't been since the sixtys. You go doing that in the USA, and you'll find your name being flagged up for all sorts of things. You will be hasstled at airports, investigated as a terrorist and so on. This is why things like the Patriot act (back on topic) are inherently bad. You can't claim "freedom of speach", if using that freedom has negative consequences for you.
Don't you remember the communist which-hunts of the west? Being a Commie in the USA used to make you more at risk than the muslims are right now. This freedom is an illusion, it has mostly gone away.
Eh? And this tripe got modded up? Perhaps you mean "tyrany of Stallinism" or "tryany of Mao"?
There is nothing inherently wrong with socialism, and some of the best countries to live in in the world have socialist systems. Sociallism is supposed to serve the common man, while capitalism serves the rich. And the current state of govenrment in the USA is hardly an advert for the success of capitalism.
The pilot that repeativly straffed friendly troops in Afganistan was out of is skull on speed. Here is an article on it.
The same is going on in Iraq. Quote from this article:
Speed and cigarettes have been a part of the standard rations since WW2.
I'd say a better word for it is "mistrust", rather than hate.
Google is not relevant for p2p really. p2p is too dynamic, hosts go up and down all the time, that's partially the point. Google works by trawling the net offline, and adding to it's database. If they were to go into p2p searches, they'd need to re-engineer the whole system.
The only thing Google has going in this respect is it's brand name, which could be the icing on the cake, instead of the technology itself.
To try to "wipe them out, completely", you would only create more hatred and ultimately more terrorism for your children to endure. We are suffering right now from our parents mistakes in the middle-east of the past 50 years, and we still haven't learned not to screw people over for a quick buck.
in the name of their God only confirms to the world that their "God" is the Devil himself.
Shit, just realised you are a believer yourself. The is no point in taking this argument any further, you are clearly against common sense and reason. God, Devil, Adam & Eve and the tree of knowledge, jeez you religious guys are funny!! Onward Christian soldiers!! Let's kill all the Muslims!!
I don't think that's quite correct, the fake-sport traded under WWF here in the UK as well.
"We have always been at war with Eurasia", George Orwell, "1984". Blah blah blah.
What you are saying is not unique to China/Taiwan. This sort of thing has been around for thousands of years, and is the cornerstone of having an army in an imperial country. It's the basis of propaganda, along with nationalism, where you teach "we are the best".
And I'm sure most of the people reading this post can relate to this in their own country in some way, either recently or historically. Any war has to be backed by propaganda, otherwise how do you expect people to be willing to die for you?
Ironically, most of the comments on /. whenever China crops up, show that most of us are brought up to hate China from birth. ;-)
However, legitimate film distribution over the net has been around for many years. Atomfilms and Shockwave have have had short films and I'm sure the odd feature film on their website for at least five years. Jeez, the first time I ever saw Cartman getting an anal probe was on Shockwave.com, six months before the first series of South Park aired in the UK. I highly recommend Atomfilms site, lot's of good films to watch, free last time I checked.
What may be unique to the article's film, or the Cleese one you reference, is that it may be the first one that you have to pay for. But even then, Ardmaan's "Wallace and Grommit - Cracking Contraptions" was available only online, and you had to pay for it. That was about a year ago, IIRC.
First, the existance of the UKUSA pack is shown in section 5.4.2 of the EU report, with documented references. So, there is no doubt that there is an agreement, above and beyond the normal relationship between nation states intelligence communities. The following, lifted from section 5.1 summarises these "clues":
Also check out section 10.7, where many known examples of industrial espionage are listed. Most aren't directly related to Echelon however, but some are and in many cases the source of the data/wiretap is unknown. Take a look at the report. Do it now. Or stopping asking for proof when I am clearly showing it to you. Even a glance through the table of contents would have highlighted these fundamental points.
Using an elite hidden network for industrial spying is clearly against the law in both countries. Now, as I said, it is illegal for each nation to spy on it's own civilians. So, are you suggesting to me that (e.g.) the UK has no interest in intercepted communications of (e.g.) terrorist activities in Britain. And if the USA was to analyse the data and spot a risk to the UK, are you suggesting that the info isn't passed between the agencies? Given todays climate, that's pretty damn obvious that it's happening.
The EU report has the following, taken from the conclusion:
But that's makes it legal, OK? We may actually be splitting hairs here. This is what makes me think you are trolling. See, I never actually said they are breaking laws. The agreement is all about getting around the laws. They are violating the spirit of the law, but not the laws themselves. That's kinda the point of what I said!
Things are a bit different nowadays. Before it was widely acknowledged that this level of spying were possible, those in on it were free to give data to their business allegencies as they saw fit. However, in this age of scandal and improved awareness, I'm certain that the industrial espionage of Echelon is seriously curtailed, or at the very least limited to only a few groups. The risk of a major scandal could destroy important trading links between entire continents, and neither side what's to see that happen.
OK, so clearly you didn't follow the link I put in my post, where it pretty much says what I said on the main page
But, OK, that's just a website, anyone can post anything they want. So, here is the a BBC Q&A on it, and the results of a search on their site.
But, you may not trust the BBC for some reason or other. So here is the official EU report on it. It was released publically, IIRC, on the 13th Sept 2001, but obviously droped off the media's scope because of the events a few days before. Unfortunate timing, no big conspiracy there.
Echelon is real, and it has been admited to by several governments, excluding the USA/UK. It monitors faxes, phone calls and now the internet. It's not a tin-foil hat fantasy.
Oh, and meta-mods, please sort out the confused mod who gave me a "flamebait" point in my parent post above. I posted factual information that is both ontopic and relevant.
He's not an idiot. It's just the way everyone's educational system works. Lot's of flag-waving and chants of "we are the best". Go and ask various people from Britain, Japan, USA and Cuba how WW2 or the Cuban missile crisis started, and you'll get entirely different answers from each. No one wants to admit they are at fault, or that they didn't think of something first.
Propaganda begins in the first grade. The catholics have know this for centuries.
Not entirely true. Sure, for many ideas that is the case, but often funding and education are most important. Without these, the idea would have either never been thought of, or would have fizzled out due to lack of interest.
That's why the USA is the worlds number one at warfare. Your government is willing through lots of money at research for weaponry, so most American inventions in the last 50 years are focused on the art of war. Even the internet falls under this umbrella.
Edison was mostly a patent thief, although he did have a few ideas of his own. If he had been around today, he would be hated more by the Slashdot crowd than SCO is.
Excuse me? Can you say "killer app"? Would you have the net at home, or more importantly, would your non-geek friends have it if it wasn't for WWW?
If www is worth arguing about as a British "invention" you've already lost the argument.
Oh, we can go back further than that. Packet switching, the basis of TCP, was invented in the UK. The US funded Arpanet is "just another protocol following the examples of many before it.".
But we are getting silly now. We could tribute the entire thing to Volta, you want to go back far enough!!
Most Scot's don't see themselves as British. The term "British" is only used when a Scot performs well at sport (or when an Englander does badly).
Surely this Cuban DIY amphibious creation has a much higher geek factor? ;-)
Welcome to the USA/UK pact. It's illegal in both countries for the inteligence communities to spy on their own citizens. We spy on yours, you spy on ours, data exchanged, problem solved.
Or have we found a Slashdotter that isn't aware of Echelon. Surely not!!
That sucks. I recently visited some student halls in Glasgow for a party that had a 100 meg switched internal network. I didn't ask if they had to pay for it though, and I've no idea what the contention ratio would be for the outside pipe. I was very impressed to see the ethernet ports in each room though.
If the game was played in a more cut-throat way, it'd be a lot shorter.
People buy porno? Paying money for filth? Wow.
Depends on how good your staff/security is. A virus/exploit, reply-all cockup or a misplaced disk all blow directory access out of the water. A much better system would be who can open the doc in the first place.