"then by definition all public corporations behave unethically."
By George, I think he's got it!
Yes, all corporations are by definition "unethical" (whatever that means - which is basically nothing - I prefer the term "crooked" which means something).
All corporations are creatures of the state, manipulators of the state, and beneficiaries of the state. Since the state is by definition a monopoly on coercion, all corporations are coercive entities (varying only in the degree that they actually exercise any of their coercive "rights" on their customers).
The free market - the TRUE free market - does not recognize the validity of a corporation. A company, yes. A corporation, no.
I can only hope when Osama (or the CIA posing as Osama) decide to drop some more planes into buildings or detonate a "dirty bomb", that Microsoft is one of the targets.
that they spend any of that $50 billion actually advancing the state of the art in computer science.
Oh, no, we need a stock buyback plan. Definitely more important for Billy Boy.
Fucking assholes. It's absolutely amazing how scummy Bill Gates actually is.
I always wondered what Melinda - an MS employee - thought of him being directly quoted as saying that MS could hire women at half the salary of men and make them do the grunt work because "they're only women."
Of course, once you snag a billionaire, I guess any feminist thoughts you might ever have had go out the window.
Microsoft must be destroyed! By any means necessary!
Mod this troll! Mod this flamebait! Is that all you got, huh? Are you nuts? Come at me!
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"So they were Jews, not Christians then."
That was MY point. HE was the one saying they weren't "Christians" while my point was of course they weren't. Jesus himself was NOT a Christian - he was a fanatical follower of the Jewish Law and had no intention of creating a new religion - certainly not one that persecuted his own people for two thousand years for allegedly executing him - when not only was it the Romans who allegedly executed him, but there is evidence the crucifixion never happened at all.
The whole thing is a joke - except for the consequences for the world.
Kate Bush. Tori Amos. The Corrs. Enya. (And Clannad and Medwyn Goodall) Movie themes from "The Blue Max" to "Conan". Billy Idol Alan Parsons. David Arkenstone. Enigma. Def Leppard. Peter Gabriel. Queen. Sisters of Mercy. Type O Negative.
Check out a recent fact I learned the other day - that the World Congress of Zionists supported Hitler. Why? Because they knew it would force emigration to Israel, that's why.
I think it was Ben Gurion or one of the other top Zionists that said if he could save all of Europe's Jews by sending them to England or only half by sending them to Israel, he would take the second option.
The Zionists have been honking the Holocaust horn for decades to justify genocide against the Palestinians. If you read any of the quotes from the Zionist literature going back to the nineteenth century, you will see that they advocated racism, land theft, genocide and murder against the occupants of Palestine for long before the Holocaust. Jabotinsky was recently quoted in an article by Stan Goff as specifically advocating racial purity for the Jews in Israel - Goff commented that the statement could have come directly from the mouth of Hitler.
This is what you get when you have moronic religious beliefs.
There's no distinction between a Zionist and a Nazi when it comes to racism and genocide.
You want bigoted? Talk to Jerry Falwell or Ariel Sharon. Don't come to me.
Your idea that some Cuban would take a bullet is fucking insane - not to mention the fact that nowhere in the documents is it suggested that the plan was to use a willing participant anyway.
Based on what I remember of the Northwoods article, the plan was presented to the Secretary of Defense and Kennedy and shot down. Which means they actually intended to do it - it was not merely blue-sky planning.
As for Florida flight schools, I quote you CNN here (http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/flight.schools/)
Those aspiring to a career as a commercial pilot are often drawn to Florida, which is home to at least 250 flight training schools. Not only are programs plentiful, but the cost is relatively inexpensive for students coming from overseas.
You got a problem with the number, take it up with CNN.
You want evidence of CIA connections, Google for "Daniel Hopsicker", a former NBC producer who has written a book on notorious drug smuggler Barry Seals and now has one out on the 9/11 terrorists which allegedly establishes CIA connections to the flight school where Atta supposedly got his training.
You want the Willie Brown story, go here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f ile=/ch ronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL
According to a report Friday, May 17, 2002, on Pacifica Radio, the warning to San Francisco's mayor came from squeaky-clean Condoleezza Rice.
You got a problem with that, take it up with KPFK.
Sure, consider the discussion closed. You obviously get all your news from Fox and Rush, so it's hardly likely you'll ever get your head out of your ass to see what's going on.
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Since you rely on the Bible, a notoriously manipulated and rewritten document, obviously you have no fucking clue.
Even complaining that the Jews of the day were not "Christians" shows your pathetic lack of comprehension of basic facts from biblical study and archeology. No surprise there for a Christian fanatic like yourself.
Which is why Bush is preparing to attack North Korea as we speak - to prepare for the next war with China in the next couple of decades when the rich oligarchs in the West decide to deprive China of being an economic superpower.
Ever notice how when the rhetoric heats up about North Korea that hard disks go missing in Los Alamos?
According to GrokLaw, their latest missive to the court basically says, "Copyright problems? What copyright problems? We never said IBM gave illegal stuff to Linux! We just said it was a contract dispute! And, oh, by the way, to get some evidence of that (because we don't have any right now), we need to look at all of IBM source code going back to 1989."
The judge is going to poop or go blind.
I'd say the case is very close to summary judgement in IBM's favor and Linux is off the hook.
Well, in defense of Samba, if you're going to interoperate with a "festering pile of shit", you pretty much are going to come away smelling a bit.
I mean, the point of Samba is interoperability, right? So what else can they do? Invent a new method? Well, okay, cool, but how does that solve their core reason for existence which is interoperability? Whatever they do has to work with Windows servers or what's the point?
If it's shit, it's MS's fault (which I note you agree with.)
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"Apparently you are not very well read if you believe Paul founded Christianity."
On the contrary, AFAIK it is the consensus of Biblical scholars that Paul essentially created the fundamental core of Christian belief. Of course, he borrowed from extant doctrines, but his particular spin - especially regarding the resurrection - is the core of Christianity and the major portion of it originates from his doctrine.
And certainly the followers of Jesus were opposed to this. Jesus' own brother, according to the Dead Sea Scrolls (suppressed, BTW, by the Catholic scholars studying them for forty years - considered the archeological scandal of the 20th Century), sent missionaries in his wake telling people not to follow Paul's teachings as they were opposed to those of Jesus. He then confronted Paul whereupon Paul attempted to incite the crowd to attack Jesus' brother; instead, the crowd turned on Paul. Paul "checked in" (as we say in Federal prison) to Roman custody and demanded a hearing in Rome as was his right as a Roman. Forty of Jesus' followers, hearing this, swore never to eat, drink or sleep until they had killed him. Word of this plot leaked, and Paul was escorted out of town by over 100 Roman soldiers. He apparently went back to Rome where only recently has any indication of his activities come to light (I'm not familiar with the current research).
In subsequent centuries, when the descendents of Jesus went to Rome to petition Bishop of the Roman Church (who had not yet taken to being called "Pope") for recognition (including sharing of the financial spoils) for their versions of the Church, the Bishop essentially told them to "kick rocks". The Catholic Church could not afford to have any of Jesus' descendents talking about the original hijacking of Jesus from the Jews.
Which is also why the Catholic Church came down hard on the Celtic Church which inherited many aspects of Judaism as a result of the many contacts between the original followers of Jesus and the British Isles via the trade routes.
Read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", "The Messianic Legacy" and especially "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception", all by Baigent and Leigh. It's all laid out in excruciating detail and utterly devastates the notion that the Christian Church has any legitimacy at all.
The Christian Church is literally nothing but an extortion racket out together by an Roman opportunist and suckers who couldn't deal with the reality of Jewish oppression by the Romans.
Even the Jews couldn't handle it, eventually ditching messianic Judaism for rabbinical Judaism.
It would be the biggest fucking joke in human history if it hadn't resulted in millions of deaths in religious massacres, not to mention the brain-deadening brainwashing of hundreds of millions over two thousand years.
Believe me, the Jews and the Christians (and the Muslims) have much to answer for - and the Transhumans will see that the bill comes due.
You're the idiot. Science and religion have been and always will be at fundamental odds with each other, regardless of some bozo scientists who claim differently.
However, there is one point which you may just appreciate.
Science resulted from the blending of Greek rationalism with Gnostic thought. Gnosticism (in some cults, anyway) advocated the transcendence of humanity by specific practices (The word "Transhuman" derives from the Greek "transhumanar"). These concepts led to the development of occultism, which in turn led to the development of alchemy, which in turn led to the development of the science of chemistry. (A parallel development occurred in China where Taoism in pursuit of alchemical immortality resulted in considerable early biochemical knowledge.) Science essentially resulted when people in pursuit of the goals of religion (or more precisely , spiritual goals) diverged from occult thought and adopted rationalism as their basis. This is the classic "Faustian" split.
And in the end, Transhumanism will prevail and achieve the Gnostic goals of transcending human nature, and just incidently, totally destroying all religion - especially the monotheistic ones, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Have a nice day.
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"when have you heard any non-fanatic religious person say "believe or die," or something to that effect?"
Amusing - defining the requirement for a "non-fanatic religious person". I suppose you can find one, but what's the point?
If you want, though, you can count the Catholic bozos who used to show up on Art Bell's show to promise "earthquakes and darkness" if you didn't "immediately bow down before God". These morons acted like Mafia extortion thugs. If they had spoken to me like that, I'd had beat their asses to a pulp for daring to threaten me.
The history of the Christian religion has most definitely been a study in "believe or die". Ask the Albigenses, the Cathars, the witches, or for that matter, the Jews. The latter is particularly amusing since Christianity was founded by Paul, a Roman double agent who hijacked the Jewish religion and used it to persecute the Jews in the name of their own prophet (who was a fanatical Jew who had absolutely no intention of founding a new religion, let alone one that would persecute Jews for his "execution" - which never happened anyway.) (Not that the Jews didn't deserve it, they were nationalistic assholes like everybody else in those days, invading their neighbors until the Romans, who were really good at it, came down and kicked their asses entirely out of their own country.)
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Only in America is this true.
How else to explain that a group of Israelis filming and high-fiving each other during the collapse of the World Trade Center would be allowed to return to Israel while their boss flees the country?
And the reports of Israeli spies trying to gain access to US nuclear submarine bases in recent months is ignored by all but local news agencies?
(Not to mention the Liberty case, of course. Or the likelihood of the Niger uranium documents having been forged in Israel. One could go on.)
Oh, that's a nice idea: a Cuban refugee would be a "willing participant" in being shot by a sniper! Absolutely brilliant! And citing the fact that President Kennedy shot down the Pentagon's plans does nothing to ease anyone's mind - except yours apparently - that the Pentagon was seriously contemplating actually doing this crap. As for you having no fucking clue, I rest my case.
As for 9/11, please explain how with a couple hundred flight schools in Florida that Mohammed Atta ended up at one with connections to the CIA and the DEA?
Not to mention the total standdown of US air defenses (including those in the New York area who have been conducting emergency response exercises for exactly that scenario for the past twenty years - except on 9/11) and not to mention the fact that Condoleeza Rice called San Francisco mayor Willie Brown the day before and told him not to fly on that day.
I reiterate: you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're just another patsy relying on "conspiracy theory" insults which makes your condescending tone about being rude merely hypocritical.
Well, of course, there are always exceptions to every "rule" (and my statement was perhaps too strong.) Usually, the cops justify their system by claiming that every case of "police brutality" is just a "few bad apples". This is totally false. However, I can equally well believe that there are a "few good apples" in the bunch.
However, as Robert Anton Wilson once said, it makes no difference that some Nazi concentration camp guards tried to ease the inmates conditions, while others just did their jobs, and others make the conditions worse. The end result is the same.
I met correctional officers in the joint who were not assholes. However, the fact that they were correctional officers at all met my criteria for being "morons". Who wants a job, no matter how well it pays, where you get to stand around being insulted by other morons (ie, the inmates)? So I guess I can stand by my statement in that sense.
Since Bush intends to attack them before the elections.
Seven naval carrier groups heading now for the Taiwan Straits under the ostensible cover of "intimidating China over Taiwan". You don't need seven groups for that. It is acknowledged that two would be adequate or even four. You need seven because you want three to five to stay in the Straits to prevent the Chinese from entering the war while you need the rest to conduct stand-off air raids on NK. You can't get too close to NK because they have hundreds of MiGs and their airbases are so close to the south that they can engage within six minutes. And they are trained to swarm US aircraft to prevent stand-off missiles from dropping them. So you need lots of carriers that can stand-off and launch air raids to support the stealth bombers.
Flight of stealth bombers in South Korea for "training exercises for the next three or four months".
Entire infantry brigade - the backbone of the US "tripwire" in South Korea - moving rapidly out of the country, supposedly to Iraq. This follows up the moving south of all US troops from the DMZ to avoid being "wiped out in three hours" which is the estimate should the North invade the South.
The excuse for moving the troops out is "we need them in Iraq". The excuse for moving the troops back out of Iraq to Korea will be "we need them to fight the Koreans". Instead of losing the US military in Iraq to the massive national resistance which is building and which cannot be defeated militarily, Bush figures it's easier to start a hot war the US can actually win - even though Pentagon estimates are the US will lose fifty thousand US troops in the first ninety days of a war with NK.
State department officials telling Congress that the North now has EIGHT nuclear weapons, not TWO. Amazing - the North spent twenty years getting TWO, and now we say they have EIGHT in the last 20 months. Shades of Iraqi WMDS.
State department and Senators also claiming the justification for "regime change" in North Korea is Kim "can't feed his people". Shades of "Saddam gasses his own people".
Clinton is dragged out to say the North is a threat - although he is careful for Democratic political reasons not to endorse pre-emptive strikes.
Conclusion: Bush's October Surprise.
I predicted this a year ago when the announcement was made about moving the DMZ troops. Everybody knew what it meant. So here we go.
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I don't owe anybody an apology who can't clearly communicate what he means. I read the post as straight forward. If it was intended as sarcasm or satire, let him say so.
I don't think most Americans think like Bush - I know they do. That, however, is not ALL Americans. Since I happen to be one, that fact is proven.
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"then by definition all public corporations behave unethically."
By George, I think he's got it!
Yes, all corporations are by definition "unethical" (whatever that means - which is basically nothing - I prefer the term "crooked" which means something).
All corporations are creatures of the state, manipulators of the state, and beneficiaries of the state. Since the state is by definition a monopoly on coercion, all corporations are coercive entities (varying only in the degree that they actually exercise any of their coercive "rights" on their customers).
The free market - the TRUE free market - does not recognize the validity of a corporation. A company, yes. A corporation, no.
I can only hope when Osama (or the CIA posing as Osama) decide to drop some more planes into buildings or detonate a "dirty bomb", that Microsoft is one of the targets.
"you think their employees are stupid?"
Yes.
"Microsoft can make very good software"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Another clueless Windows troll heard from!
Let me state it in plain English.
Microsoft software is SHIT. Their company is SHIT. Bill Gates is SHIT. The US Department of Justice is SHIT WARMED OVER.
And Windows trolls are SHIT.
Plain enough for you?
Have a nice day.
that they spend any of that $50 billion actually advancing the state of the art in computer science.
Oh, no, we need a stock buyback plan. Definitely more important for Billy Boy.
Fucking assholes. It's absolutely amazing how scummy Bill Gates actually is.
I always wondered what Melinda - an MS employee - thought of him being directly quoted as saying that MS could hire women at half the salary of men and make them do the grunt work because "they're only women."
Of course, once you snag a billionaire, I guess any feminist thoughts you might ever have had go out the window.
Microsoft must be destroyed! By any means necessary!
Mod this troll! Mod this flamebait! Is that all you got, huh? Are you nuts? Come at me!
"So they were Jews, not Christians then."
That was MY point. HE was the one saying they weren't "Christians" while my point was of course they weren't. Jesus himself was NOT a Christian - he was a fanatical follower of the Jewish Law and had no intention of creating a new religion - certainly not one that persecuted his own people for two thousand years for allegedly executing him - when not only was it the Romans who allegedly executed him, but there is evidence the crucifixion never happened at all.
The whole thing is a joke - except for the consequences for the world.
Kate Bush.
Tori Amos.
The Corrs.
Enya. (And Clannad and Medwyn Goodall)
Movie themes from "The Blue Max" to "Conan".
Billy Idol
Alan Parsons.
David Arkenstone.
Enigma.
Def Leppard.
Peter Gabriel.
Queen.
Sisters of Mercy.
Type O Negative.
Give up?
Try "expansive" as a phrase.
You want some notion about who supported Hitler?
Check out a recent fact I learned the other day - that the World Congress of Zionists supported Hitler. Why? Because they knew it would force emigration to Israel, that's why.
I think it was Ben Gurion or one of the other top Zionists that said if he could save all of Europe's Jews by sending them to England or only half by sending them to Israel, he would take the second option.
The Zionists have been honking the Holocaust horn for decades to justify genocide against the Palestinians. If you read any of the quotes from the Zionist literature going back to the nineteenth century, you will see that they advocated racism, land theft, genocide and murder against the occupants of Palestine for long before the Holocaust. Jabotinsky was recently quoted in an article by Stan Goff as specifically advocating racial purity for the Jews in Israel - Goff commented that the statement could have come directly from the mouth of Hitler.
This is what you get when you have moronic religious beliefs.
There's no distinction between a Zionist and a Nazi when it comes to racism and genocide.
You want bigoted? Talk to Jerry Falwell or Ariel Sharon. Don't come to me.
Do your own Google for the facts.
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Your idea that some Cuban would take a bullet is fucking insane - not to mention the fact that nowhere in the documents is it suggested that the plan was to use a willing participant anyway.
Based on what I remember of the Northwoods article, the plan was presented to the Secretary of Defense and Kennedy and shot down. Which means they actually intended to do it - it was not merely blue-sky planning.
As for Florida flight schools, I quote you CNN here (http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/flight.schools/
Those aspiring to a career as a commercial pilot are often drawn to Florida, which is home to at least 250 flight training schools. Not only are programs plentiful, but the cost is relatively inexpensive for students coming from overseas.
You got a problem with the number, take it up with CNN.
You want evidence of CIA connections, Google for "Daniel Hopsicker", a former NBC producer who has written a book on notorious drug smuggler Barry Seals and now has one out on the 9/11 terrorists which allegedly establishes CIA connections to the flight school where Atta supposedly got his training.
You want the Willie Brown story, go here:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
According to a report Friday, May 17, 2002, on Pacifica Radio, the warning to San Francisco's mayor came from squeaky-clean Condoleezza Rice.
You got a problem with that, take it up with KPFK.
Sure, consider the discussion closed. You obviously get all your news from Fox and Rush, so it's hardly likely you'll ever get your head out of your ass to see what's going on.
Since you rely on the Bible, a notoriously manipulated and rewritten document, obviously you have no fucking clue.
Even complaining that the Jews of the day were not "Christians" shows your pathetic lack of comprehension of basic facts from biblical study and archeology. No surprise there for a Christian fanatic like yourself.
Especially true in China.
Which is why Bush is preparing to attack North Korea as we speak - to prepare for the next war with China in the next couple of decades when the rich oligarchs in the West decide to deprive China of being an economic superpower.
Ever notice how when the rhetoric heats up about North Korea that hard disks go missing in Los Alamos?
It's not a coincedance.
Given that the only thing Microsoft produces is shit, there should be more than enough flies on Ballmer's wall already.
Just ask any of them.
SCO is in big trouble, that's what they're up to.
According to GrokLaw, their latest missive to the court basically says, "Copyright problems? What copyright problems? We never said IBM gave illegal stuff to Linux! We just said it was a contract dispute! And, oh, by the way, to get some evidence of that (because we don't have any right now), we need to look at all of IBM source code going back to 1989."
The judge is going to poop or go blind.
I'd say the case is very close to summary judgement in IBM's favor and Linux is off the hook.
Well, in defense of Samba, if you're going to interoperate with a "festering pile of shit", you pretty much are going to come away smelling a bit.
I mean, the point of Samba is interoperability, right? So what else can they do? Invent a new method? Well, okay, cool, but how does that solve their core reason for existence which is interoperability? Whatever they do has to work with Windows servers or what's the point?
If it's shit, it's MS's fault (which I note you agree with.)
"Apparently you are not very well read if you believe Paul founded Christianity."
On the contrary, AFAIK it is the consensus of Biblical scholars that Paul essentially created the fundamental core of Christian belief. Of course, he borrowed from extant doctrines, but his particular spin - especially regarding the resurrection - is the core of Christianity and the major portion of it originates from his doctrine.
And certainly the followers of Jesus were opposed to this. Jesus' own brother, according to the Dead Sea Scrolls (suppressed, BTW, by the Catholic scholars studying them for forty years - considered the archeological scandal of the 20th Century), sent missionaries in his wake telling people not to follow Paul's teachings as they were opposed to those of Jesus. He then confronted Paul whereupon Paul attempted to incite the crowd to attack Jesus' brother; instead, the crowd turned on Paul. Paul "checked in" (as we say in Federal prison) to Roman custody and demanded a hearing in Rome as was his right as a Roman. Forty of Jesus' followers, hearing this, swore never to eat, drink or sleep until they had killed him. Word of this plot leaked, and Paul was escorted out of town by over 100 Roman soldiers. He apparently went back to Rome where only recently has any indication of his activities come to light (I'm not familiar with the current research).
In subsequent centuries, when the descendents of Jesus went to Rome to petition Bishop of the Roman Church (who had not yet taken to being called "Pope") for recognition (including sharing of the financial spoils) for their versions of the Church, the Bishop essentially told them to "kick rocks". The Catholic Church could not afford to have any of Jesus' descendents talking about the original hijacking of Jesus from the Jews.
Which is also why the Catholic Church came down hard on the Celtic Church which inherited many aspects of Judaism as a result of the many contacts between the original followers of Jesus and the British Isles via the trade routes.
Read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", "The Messianic Legacy" and especially "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception", all by Baigent and Leigh. It's all laid out in excruciating detail and utterly devastates the notion that the Christian Church has any legitimacy at all.
The Christian Church is literally nothing but an extortion racket out together by an Roman opportunist and suckers who couldn't deal with the reality of Jewish oppression by the Romans.
Even the Jews couldn't handle it, eventually ditching messianic Judaism for rabbinical Judaism.
It would be the biggest fucking joke in human history if it hadn't resulted in millions of deaths in religious massacres, not to mention the brain-deadening brainwashing of hundreds of millions over two thousand years.
Believe me, the Jews and the Christians (and the Muslims) have much to answer for - and the Transhumans will see that the bill comes due.
I spent eight years in Federal prison and nobody ever threatened me with being "snipped"!
As for "gunned down"... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Come on down, Nigerian niggers!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
No, he's not, because he doesn't exist.
Anybody who wastes time debating nonsensical religious concepts with a moron is a moron.
And I'm not debating here - I'm just declaring you a moron. Which is fun, basically.
Your religion is bullshit, your beliefs are crap, no doubt your politics is equally asinine, and you personally are a moron.
Fortunately your kind are doomed to death.
Have a nice day.
You're the idiot. Science and religion have been and always will be at fundamental odds with each other, regardless of some bozo scientists who claim differently.
However, there is one point which you may just appreciate.
Science resulted from the blending of Greek rationalism with Gnostic thought. Gnosticism (in some cults, anyway) advocated the transcendence of humanity by specific practices (The word "Transhuman" derives from the Greek "transhumanar"). These concepts led to the development of occultism, which in turn led to the development of alchemy, which in turn led to the development of the science of chemistry. (A parallel development occurred in China where Taoism in pursuit of alchemical immortality resulted in considerable early biochemical knowledge.) Science essentially resulted when people in pursuit of the goals of religion (or more precisely , spiritual goals) diverged from occult thought and adopted rationalism as their basis. This is the classic "Faustian" split.
And in the end, Transhumanism will prevail and achieve the Gnostic goals of transcending human nature, and just incidently, totally destroying all religion - especially the monotheistic ones, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Have a nice day.
"when have you heard any non-fanatic religious person say "believe or die," or something to that effect?"
Amusing - defining the requirement for a "non-fanatic religious person". I suppose you can find one, but what's the point?
If you want, though, you can count the Catholic bozos who used to show up on Art Bell's show to promise "earthquakes and darkness" if you didn't "immediately bow down before God". These morons acted like Mafia extortion thugs. If they had spoken to me like that, I'd had beat their asses to a pulp for daring to threaten me.
The history of the Christian religion has most definitely been a study in "believe or die". Ask the Albigenses, the Cathars, the witches, or for that matter, the Jews. The latter is particularly amusing since Christianity was founded by Paul, a Roman double agent who hijacked the Jewish religion and used it to persecute the Jews in the name of their own prophet (who was a fanatical Jew who had absolutely no intention of founding a new religion, let alone one that would persecute Jews for his "execution" - which never happened anyway.) (Not that the Jews didn't deserve it, they were nationalistic assholes like everybody else in those days, invading their neighbors until the Romans, who were really good at it, came down and kicked their asses entirely out of their own country.)
Only in America is this true.
How else to explain that a group of Israelis filming and high-fiving each other during the collapse of the World Trade Center would be allowed to return to Israel while their boss flees the country?
And the reports of Israeli spies trying to gain access to US nuclear submarine bases in recent months is ignored by all but local news agencies?
(Not to mention the Liberty case, of course. Or the likelihood of the Niger uranium documents having been forged in Israel. One could go on.)
Oh, that's a nice idea: a Cuban refugee would be a "willing participant" in being shot by a sniper!
Absolutely brilliant! And citing the fact that President Kennedy shot down the Pentagon's plans does nothing to ease anyone's mind - except yours apparently - that the Pentagon was seriously contemplating actually doing this crap. As for you having no fucking clue, I rest my case.
As for 9/11, please explain how with a couple hundred flight schools in Florida that Mohammed Atta ended up at one with connections to the CIA and the DEA?
Not to mention the total standdown of US air defenses (including those in the New York area who have been conducting emergency response exercises for exactly that scenario for the past twenty years - except on 9/11) and not to mention the fact that Condoleeza Rice called San Francisco mayor Willie Brown the day before and told him not to fly on that day.
I reiterate: you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're just another patsy relying on "conspiracy theory" insults which makes your condescending tone about being rude merely hypocritical.
See how many civil liberties you lose then.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
9/11 was just a warmup exercise.
Bush has PLANS for you.
Starting with a NUCLEAR terrorist incident and a Second Korean Wsr.
You heard it here first.
Suckers.
"perhaps we can pull that discussion aside RIGHT HERE"
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Are YOU a dreamer!
This is
Well, of course, there are always exceptions to every "rule" (and my statement was perhaps too strong.) Usually, the cops justify their system by claiming that every case of "police brutality" is just a "few bad apples". This is totally false. However, I can equally well believe that there are a "few good apples" in the bunch.
However, as Robert Anton Wilson once said, it makes no difference that some Nazi concentration camp guards tried to ease the inmates conditions, while others just did their jobs, and others make the conditions worse. The end result is the same.
I met correctional officers in the joint who were not assholes. However, the fact that they were correctional officers at all met my criteria for being "morons". Who wants a job, no matter how well it pays, where you get to stand around being insulted by other morons (ie, the inmates)? So I guess I can stand by my statement in that sense.
Since Bush intends to attack them before the elections.
Seven naval carrier groups heading now for the Taiwan Straits under the ostensible cover of "intimidating China over Taiwan". You don't need seven groups for that. It is acknowledged that two would be adequate or even four. You need seven because you want three to five to stay in the Straits to prevent the Chinese from entering the war while you need the rest to conduct stand-off air raids on NK. You can't get too close to NK because they have hundreds of MiGs and their airbases are so close to the south that they can engage within six minutes. And they are trained to swarm US aircraft to prevent stand-off missiles from dropping them. So you need lots of carriers that can stand-off and launch air raids to support the stealth bombers.
Flight of stealth bombers in South Korea for "training exercises for the next three or four months".
Entire infantry brigade - the backbone of the US "tripwire" in South Korea - moving rapidly out of the country, supposedly to Iraq. This follows up the moving south of all US troops from the DMZ to avoid being "wiped out in three hours" which is the estimate should the North invade the South.
The excuse for moving the troops out is "we need them in Iraq". The excuse for moving the troops back out of Iraq to Korea will be "we need them to fight the Koreans". Instead of losing the US military in Iraq to the massive national resistance which is building and which cannot be defeated militarily, Bush figures it's easier to start a hot war the US can actually win - even though Pentagon estimates are the US will lose fifty thousand US troops in the first ninety days of a war with NK.
State department officials telling Congress that the North now has EIGHT nuclear weapons, not TWO. Amazing - the North spent twenty years getting TWO, and now we say they have EIGHT in the last 20 months. Shades of Iraqi WMDS.
State department and Senators also claiming the justification for "regime change" in North Korea is Kim "can't feed his people". Shades of "Saddam gasses his own people".
Clinton is dragged out to say the North is a threat - although he is careful for Democratic political reasons not to endorse pre-emptive strikes.
Conclusion: Bush's October Surprise.
I predicted this a year ago when the announcement was made about moving the DMZ troops. Everybody knew what it meant. So here we go.
'Nuff said.
I don't owe anybody an apology who can't clearly communicate what he means. I read the post as straight forward. If it was intended as sarcasm or satire, let him say so.
I don't think most Americans think like Bush - I know they do. That, however, is not ALL Americans. Since I happen to be one, that fact is proven.