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419ers Diversify Into Assassination Threats?
Richardsonke1 writes "Just when you thought 419ers couldn't get any worse, now they are sending death threats, according to a story at The Register. The emails require you to 'produce a mandatory sum of US$40,000.00 {FOURTHY THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS} only,into our account given below in nigeria within ninety six hours{96},alternatively you will be SNIPPED and GUNNED down during the period of our oncoming anniversary of fifty years.' All joking of 'snipping' aside, for those people who fall for regular 419 emails, this would terrify many gullible web users."
...after failing to pay Nigerian hitman.
--Rob
Don't you understand? We're going to be cut out!
That should be 'sniped' not snipped (as in sissors?? ;-)
Also, to be 'sniped' and gunned-down are pretty much the same thing there guys....
By the way kids, you want to be very, very careful about who you make threats to over the internet as the party offended may very well be a federal officer or worse yet for you, a former member of USMC STA (Scout/Sniper) team.
Enjoy,
Nick
I don't think I could afford FOURTHY thousand dollars (American or otherwise) ;)
will work for Karma
Great!
Now I have to read even more spam in order to filter out the fake death threats from the real ones!
What happens if I mark a real death threat from my arch-nemesis as spam? I won't be ready to protect myself.
I know more than a few people who would absolutely go nuts if they got this email. Oh and obligatory joke...
1) Send Death Threat Emails
2) Watch Money Roll In
3) Profit!
You dont even need the question marks.
Do these guys work for SCO too?
Let the bidding war begin!
Kinetic stupidity has a new brand leader: Allen Zadr.
They're going about this all wrong. Personally, I'd pay 5 or 10 bucks to have a certificate mailed to me from Nigeria certifying that I have indeed paid my way out of being "snipped".
Write back and ask if they take paypal.
If major governments can be convinced these are "terroristic threats" we might actually get some police action against these annoying criminals.
It Is the Nature of Information to Transgress Artificial Boundaries
Guess we have all the proof and reason we need to invade Nigeria now.
That was a scam?!?!
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At least this should bring in the FBI. Death threats crossing state lines has to qualify as an FBI/Justice Department investigation. Perhaps even the State Department if the email was really sent from a Nigerian server.
Perhaps now that the scammers have crossed this line they will get the attention of law enforcement. Sending a death threat is illegal, is it not? I realize that scamming people out of money is also illegal, but in this case it seems like the initial email is already crossing the line...
I think I'd rather be sniped than snipped. OUCH!!!
Yep, I never spell check.
More incorrect spellings can be found he
Jim Bell says 'hi'!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
1) Get labelled as a terrorist
2) ???
3) Profit
Step 2 happens somewhere where reporters aren't anymore let into so whatever it consists of can only be speculated about.
Sounds to me like we need to send in some special ops to Nigeria to conunter this new terrorist threat that has appeared on our shores!
Then they would know what sniping really means!
This is a death threat. The State Dept. of the countries involved have a responsibility to protect its citizens. No matter how inept the method might be the threat stands and needs to be addressed.
"Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
Cohen
It makes your country and INSTANT TERROR THREAT TO THE US. Prepare for parking lot status.
New weapon for Counterstrike, large shears! Prepare to be snipped!
If reality was like Slashdot, most people would be (-1) Redundant.
Note : - Your death has been paid for by someone you offended sometime
Bloody ex-wives.. i knew they were up to no good..
What would you do without a monitor? Sit and look stupid behind a keyboard and a mouse
Snipped, huh? But, but...it's impossible to have TWO vasectomies! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
It seems to me that the traffic of people making fun of them (baiters) is very high compared to the dumb people falling for the scam.
In fact, I've been following my friend's baits, and the scammers seem desperate, unwilling to cooperate if you ask for a picture of them or any other information. Contrast this with many months ago where they would take any pictures that you asked them.
Since most of the baiters play along with the scammers story to ridiculize them, the scammers are getting desperate and started to use this new scheme. It is hard to play along with a death threat, compared to, a petition of money for a church in nigeria.
"There is no teacher but the enemy."-Mazer Rackham
Not only will you be gunned down, but you will also be "SNIPPED" -- which could only mean circumcision.
This is a logical step, after all the recent kidnappings / beheadings that have been going on in the Middle East.
Prey on people's fears -- that they could be snatched in broad daylight.
People won't fall for this (they might forward it to the police department, but people pay these guys in their ignorant attempts to GAIN money), but I do like the possibility of having government agencies now taking action due to actual threats being involved.
I'm more than willing to hand over my 30% share of the 27 million dollars left by Sani Abacha, the late Nigerian dictator, if they call off assassinating me.
I'm generally "Interesting," "Insightful," and even "Funny" here. What the hell happens to me at parties?
The 420 guys are so much cooler than the 419 guys.
wakeup call for the people who receive such email? If you are stupid enough to believe the original 419 emails, then these assasination emails could certainly have an impact. It'll just spread word about this scam faster.
Aside- What if somebody in the us or europe threatened the would be assasinators with assasination instead? That would make for a real good laugh.
Somebody should reply back that that they are in the army(or assasins themselves) and send back menacing photos of soldiers with guns, grenades strapped to the belts etc..
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Note : - Your death has been paid for by someone you offended sometime ago and it will be adviceable that you co-operate with us a.s.a.p.
.A.JOHNSON SECRETARY.
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Oh please. "Someone" from "sometime" ago. $40k to not kill me. Riight. I guess, as the article mentions, this might be a little scary if it's, say, you're first email ever. But c'mon -- some anonymous hotmail account which has never been linked to me gets such a threat, and I'm supposed to worry enough to send $40k to a stranger? They'd need to include at least some personal info (name, address, car make/model/color, what I'm wearing and doing right now, etc.) to make it scary.
I don't see how this can work as well as the "traditional" greed-exploiting 419 scam.
And, assuming the bank account info is legit, seems like the authorities could put the smack down on this silliness pretty quickly.
everything in moderation
Maybe they offer the victim the choice of being emasculated or gunned down.
"Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
Cohen
So when a mail like this hits Bush's email account (taking in mind Dubya knows how to operate 'that Internet thing') , that would be a threat to him.
Would that finally let some agency take some serious actions against those scammers ?
The email list they're using has a lot of .gov addresses, in particular those on Pennsylvania Avenue. (the White House, for those who don't know)
That will get ALL federal law enforcement into a panic.
Don't pick up the pho*(@)$*@&@!@ NO CARRIER
We should have a licensing program to use the internet. You should be required to answer a set of questions asking you about life in general. If the results say you think everyone is out to get you, then you are adequately prepared to use the internet.
combine this with the "Bill Gates will send you $$$" emails.
"Bill Gates will send you $$$ if you send this to 10 of your friends....or else!"
In the current international climate, why would anyone send out stuff that could be considered terrorism? Now, they actually stand a decent chance of being caught. Before, it was only a minor annoyance to international law enforcement. Now, the senders are far more likely to be caught and punished severely.
:)
Not that there's anything wrong with that from our viewpoint though
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Second, that letter couldn't have come from Jim Bell, he has much better grammar.
Item: DHS is highly concerned with any kind of hacking or spamming under the umbrella of "critical infrastructure protection."
Item: the US has already been spun up once before by snipers and the threat thereof.
Question: Given the above, do you suppose that this kind of thing will be taken seriously by the government? Or, perhaps, the proper terminology would be "Too seriously."
And if so, what would be done about it? Probably nothing overseas; but what about the thousands of COMCAST and Cox Cable customers who leave themselves wide open to being hijacked to relay spam?
Dear Mr Assassin
I am willing to pay the 40.000 USD to you as soon as possible.
However, since my money is an old war treasure (33.234.177 USD exactly) locked in an anonymous account in the Canaries, in order to pay you, I need someone in your country to act as intermediary. And God has put you on my way to help me achieve this holy task.
I just need you to send me 28.000 USD in advance processing fee and...
Seriously this has now gone far enough. Scamming is one thing, but mass death threats to another country amount to terrorism.
So when does Bush plan on invading Nigeria?
Don't theathe him - he typthes with a lithp.
there no way im paying them, they arent going to sni
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I am interested in applying for the position of "Snipper" at your company. My job as a snipper was recently outsourced to a low income populace. However I can assure you I am one of the best snippers around and come from a long line of professional snippers. My qualifications include poor spelling, my own nigerian bank account, and huge list of email addresses. You can contact me by putting $50,000 USD in my bank account listed below, I will then trace the transfer back to you and know you are interested.
Your friend,
The Happy Snipper
PS. Hire me or be snipped!
Regardless, these guys have upped the ante from merely committing fraud to uttering death threats and financial extortion/blackmail, the latter of which carries a significantly greater penalty in most jurisdictions, afaik.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
I'm confused. I don't follow email scams, but if these scammers want to make money they have to offer some valid place for fools to send their money. Shouldnt there be a trail leading back to the scammers? How else are they going to collect their money?
I don't see why these folks arent "out of business" already.
...should visit windowsupdate to download the latest assasination threat filters.
I just need to add myself to the list of "killer email addresses".
BBC News: Panic at Nigrian "Killer Calls"
I'll forward it to a less-than-bright friend and scare the bejesus out of him with a laser pointer
I hate my sig
Have you ever seen "The Bourne Supremacy" ?
Well, you should, because I'm exactly like that.
I have you tracked and by the time you read this, you will have a cap popped in your ass, jerkwad.
Signed,
a person that will see the blood run from your body.
Gentlemen,
As a patriotic American, I am already armed to the teeth. If you aren't too 'snipped' to be up to the challenge, then my reply to you comes straight from our esteemed Commander In Chief:
"Bring It On!"
I'd be more than pleased to shoot your happy ass off. Have a nice day.
Is that something like what happens to the dog in the Offspring video?
Then again, with the way some people breed like rabbits, maybe snipping isn't such a bad thing.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
The real death threats are the ones from your ex-girlfriend.
Oh cut it out you..
when they send this e-mail to a Federal Agent, Judge, etc. personal e-mail address? Making a death threat on any of these persons is a felony and the US could seek extradition. Or mayby W. would consider this a terrorist threat and deliver a $40,000 piece of ordinance via the U.S. Air Force.
If I drive fast enough at the red light, it'll appear green.
...of the value of US money. My question is: Does anyone have an idea of how much it cost these jokers to send out an email blast like this? Obviously, a single moron could pay for the whole operation, but what do they stand to lose if noone does?
Check this out!
Might be worth 40k not to have this guy chasing you around with those...
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
So now I need a Kevlar/Tin foil hat I suppose.
reply back and forge your header to potus@whitehouse.gov and ask him to repeat his message
Like bombing Nigeria?
Remember who you're talking about here.
It's The Golden Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules."
Of course, that assumes that you're not planning to actually _go_ to Nigeria any time soon. The 419ers do sometimes kidnap and kill suckers who've gone there hunting for their money.
Bill Stewart
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So when a mail like this hits Bush's email account, that would be a threat to him.
Yaas! Based on traffic to a couple of my older accounts, several of the 419 team are using the standard "10,000,000 VAL1D E-MA1LZ!!!" CD of addresses snarfed from UseNet and the WWW. Which, I believe, included "president@whitehouse.gov" in the list of... er... targets?
On the down side, while the Secret Service have no sense of humor ("We're paid not to", I was once told by a freind who's done Presidential detail), and while they keep a file of EVERY threats, they also don't investigate every threat in merionesianly proctological detail. Of course, they do check out a lot of them, but automated death threats sent to world+dog via e-mail would seem lower down the protective detail priority list than the crayon piece snail-mailed to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
I don't think they'd have to be convinced, I think it actually falls into the law, at least here in the US:
According to Blacks (Law dictionary):
A person is guilty of a felony if he threatens to commit any crime of violence with purpose to terrorize another or to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. 18 U.S.C.A. 3077; Model Penal Code, 211.3.
Sounds pretty clear cut. And this is one place where Bush's obsession with invading countries could actually work to our advantage.
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
These guys are dumb not to include details of the person they're trying to scam. I mean they're going to be wrong 99% of the time, but you know there will be at least one person out there who is like "holy shit how did they know my dog is named fifi, I better give them the money."
The surprising thing is that this individual provided bank account info.
This leaves the scammer far less anonymity than he would normally seek to have.
Especially given that this was a death threat, revealing account info of the sender or an associate of the sender on the first email seems not only out of character for scammers (who are increasingly protective of personal details recently) but downright stupid.
It sounds to me like somebody got the wrong idea with everybody raving about how much they love SpamAssassin. It was probably somebody who does not understand English very well (most likely from Soviet Russia) mistakenly thinking that people love it when spam assassinates you. Ah, the dangers of taking Slashdot too literally.
Why not forward one to him with the comment
"I think this was meant for you."?
Forward them to the FBI, state department and to w@whitehouse.com.gov.
Personally, I'd be thrilled to know that I pissed off someone enough to warrant taking out a contract on me.
perhaps I need to get out more often...
I have something in common with Stephen Hawking...
...is better armed than the average Nigerian.
"A rumour has spread rapidly in the commercial capital, Lagos, that if one answers calls from certain "killer numbers" then one will die immediately."
Then there's the handshake..."a rumour that spread a few years ago that a handshake could cause sexual organs to disappear."
"Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
Cohen
I would hate to see what they "snippers" would do if they found out you were actually a woman!
My rights don't need management.
He's stupid enough, and paranoid enough to pay the 40,000. Well, he would probably have "daddy" pay, as usual.
Can't they just deduct the $40K from the $9 Million US the other guys have secured in a bank account from my (previously unknown) relavatives?
Homer no function beer well without.
US law and US Executive Branch practice are hypocritical and schizophrenic. The US doesn't have any jurisdiction outside the US, and the Executive Branch has the policy that US laws don't apply to US government officials outside the US, but they might or might not apply to citizens, and if you do something overseas they don't like, they can kidnap you and haul you in, or confiscate your boat in the "war on drugs" or whatever.
The chances of getting realistic proactive police support from the US Feds are relatively low, but if you did actually lose money, it's possible that they'll help track down the bank, but they'll probably hit a dead end quickly. The more useful support would be something like telling their embassy that we're more pissed off about death threats than the usual scams against greedy people, or freezing US assets of Nigerian banks that don't cooperate in tracking down the miscreants, but I'm not optimistic.
Bill Stewart
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This must be the "chatter" the CIA and NSA picked up on when Homeland Security raised the threat level from Mango Orange to WillyWonka Fireball Red. Now if you don't mind, I need to go back to homedepot for duct tape and plastic tarps.
... circumcision clinic. Pay is lousy, but the tips get you by.
Faith: n. -- That human impulse that drives them to steal appliances when the power goes out
Hopefully the FBI will take terrorism and death threats more seriously than scams and spam.
I'll bet a mere $10,000 would pay for a PI+hitman to take out the person threatening you. That's a huge savings, and it could be considered self defense.
So the list works more like this:
1) Send Death Threat Emails
2) ???
3) Die Die Die
.sigs are for post^Hers.
Slick Willy only sent one email while he was in office. Maybe he doesn't know how to operate 'that Internet thing.'
Dear Mr. Johnson, How are you gentlemen. All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction. You have no chance to survive make your time. HA HA HA HA ....
Cats
I am a geek. Already emasculated.
...the stuff you can get a newspaper publish during news-starved summers. I refuse to believe somebody can send such an email for real.
I have a baby on the way, I would have spent fourthy thousand dollars to be snipped if only I had known earlier.
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We have ordnance that cheap?
In fact, we do, or at least we did. There was something called the "lazydog" that was just a fist-sized chunk of iron with fins. They were shoveled out the back of a B-52 from high altitude. Kinetic energy did the rest. I don't know how widely-used or effective they were.
Plus you can send the assassins mail saying "My name is Laurent Kabila. You killed my Father. Prepare to die!" from whatever address the regular 419ers are using.
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A new type of scam is circulating on Internet:
"Buy today our new Generic Bullet Proof Suit and protect yourself from the nigerian snipers!!!!"
I am an experienced 419 scammer, having worked for one of the most famous 419 scammers around, Narob Kulad. I have decided to set up shop on my own and am gathering investors for such a project. Once we have 10 million US dollars, we will begin to send out emails to gullible investors. We only need $34,000 to hit our target of 10 million, and I am selling shares at $1,000 per share to achieve that goal. Our expected return is 400% within one month. We plan on paying back 50% of the profit to our investors at the end of the month and reinvesting the rest for future gains.
If you are interested in purchasing shares, please write to me at....
excitingthingstodo.blogspot.com
The article summary has too many CAPITAL LETTERS. It's like YELLING.
... even though they don't need it. But it looks good that they are an 'honest company' and buy all the licenses required by people that use these products - even licenses to kill.
Nick
From an radio intercepted from the Whitehouse: "...we will NOT allow these axis of ebil terrorize our upstanding rednecks! Prepare to redeploy all the remaining troops to Nigeria at once... And make sure they don't have any _nucular_ weapons while you're there!"
So when a mail like this hits Bush's email account He'd call the justice department and tell then that the Terror level just went up to brown. Then he'd have them spring into action and postpone the presidential election.
There is nothing so silly as other peoples traditions, and nothing so sacred as our own.
Not that GWB ever sees emails. He must have an army of people checking his email and giving him anything important. That said, my guess is that the President of America dosen't pay any attention to any email. I mean, can you imagine Vlad. Putin or Tony Blair sending him an email to discuss how much fun they had over the weekend alone "imminent terrorist threats"?
What is your penile percentile?
Hey I got one of these and didn't pay it. Sounds like BS. As I sit by this window and type, I feel completel i8nhsadfl;kc
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Just as long as he doesn't accidentally hit Niagra instead.
Hell.. Congressmen don't even check their own email!
What is your penile percentile?
I'm not afraid about "killer numbers"... but keep those penis-melting Zionist robot combs far, far away from me!
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
".we guarantee your saftey locally and internationally,on the completion of this contract and will not hesitate to disclose our men in your country to you and as well render our service if needed or on request"
Tell you guys what. If you are going to guarantee my safety locally and internationally, just give me the name of the person I'm going to have to contact just in case something goes wrong and I have to collect on that guarantee. Then it's a deal.
What about the cadaver-cam?
Any spoon would be too big.
I place my wager that this is a spoof, intended to draw heat down on these gnatwits that have hitherto escaped consequence for their spamiferous actions. And well done, and applause, and best wishes for great incarceration.
Out with 419eaters, in with 419killaz! Huzzah!
This is obviously blatant hollow threats but if those scammers grow in sophistication and actually start calling people on the phone with those same threats things may get very interesting... Things said on the phone are still taken much more seriously than bulk mail.
Your pizza just the way you ought to have it.
Sorta like that Czech guy who walked into the Nigerian embassy in Prague and shot some random nigerians, because he was sick of the spam? Ouch.
I wonder if Nigeria is one of the countries that still practice circumcision and they do indeed mean snipped. Ouch!
Too lazy to create a sig...
The Portland, OR field office told me, "Work it out with your local authorities, if they cannot help you, contact us." Now, keep in mind that I did my homework before calling the field office. Yahoo.com was even good enough to provide a free phone call from their legal council (kudos yahoo!) to explain to me *exactly* what I needed to do such that they could assist the authorities in a full investigation.
To make a long retort simply longer, the local yokels didn't know what to do. We got no joy with them because basically, the stalker had never shown up and brandished a weapon, or somehow vandalized property in a way we could proove or shot her dead on the doorstep.
We ended up getting results by simply *daily* badgering the detective who took the case. I walked him through everything from "how email works for dummies" to speaking with the DA to subpeona Yahoo.com for their mail records.
The whole ordeal took several months and the FBI's part in the entire deal (even though, as you correctly point out, these were serious threats of bodliy harm across state lines) was a fart in a hurricane. I would like to be able to give them props, but without a corpse, they apparently did not feel motivated.
Cheers,
-- RLJ
PS - serious note: I am amazed how many people I have related this story too who either know somebody in a similar situation or have been in this situation. Fixing this problem in my lady's life is one of the most positive things we have done to date. If you have questions how it worked or how to go about this, email me, I will respond - greg.crowe@gmail.com
"US is crap! Bush is a tool! Wait, what were we talking about?"
Hokey statistics and ancient misconceptions are no match for a good thought in your head, kid!
This sounds so much as the deadly "Viper Assesination Squad"!!!!!!!
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1) Obtain your enemy's bank account number. This could be as simple as writing them a check, then looking at the back of the check once it clears the bank.
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3) Send out this spam to everybody on list, but substitute your enemy's information.
4) Laugh uproariously next time this person goes to make a withdrawal from the bank, only to be led away in chains by federal marshalls!!!
Hours of fun!!! Amuse your friends! Confound your enemies!!!
But seriously, how do we know that the person whose bank account is listed is actually the person that sent the email?
How do I sign up for the Federal Do Not Assassinate List? I need to know NOW!
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. - Geek's corollary to Clarke's law
Page 25 of this pdf has a sample of this scam from when it was sent via snail-mail in 1994.
who are those slashdot people? they swept over like Mongol-Tartars.
Could you verify this story about Tijuana's accidental zoo?
If true, then your rock is defective.
This is not my sig.
I get a LOT of these 419 emails everyday.
And I respond to every one of them by telling them that if they will send me $10,000 I will fly to Nigeria and put a bullet in their heads.
And I mean it to. I would if they would.
If you were a real man, you would have traced his IP address, subpoenaed the ISP for the user's personal info austensibly to sue him, then gone to his house and blown off his kneecaps with a shotgun.
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You git, there aren't any tigers within a hundred miles of you and your stupid rock!
Someone you trust is one of us.
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First theyb sell some yellow ckaes and aluminum tubes to Saddam and now this! These guys are really axing to get invaded.
Most of us were snipped shortly after birth.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Then reply back, and inform them that you've already paid, and that you have the certificate confirming your payment. You can offer to send them a copy of the certificate, but I doubt they'd be willing to give you an address to send it to.
Alternatively, you can claim that you paid $50k, and now that they've lowered the price, you want $10k back.
There are way too many possibilities of how to annoy the sender on this one.
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
... spam assassinates YOU.
Don't you think they're aiming too high? Exactly how many people who are gullible enough to pay out to avoid being snipped have $40,000 in cash laying about? Make it $100, or $1000, something that people can pay out on impulse, and you might make some money (until the cops break down your door).
They can threaten me all they want and I still won't send any money. Not due to my being broke or anything but because of one simple little problem. They will never find my house, even I can't find my own house half the time!
Will there be more people who contact the police/FBI than people who would otherwise (if it was just "normal" scam) pay the money? Or will there even be more people than those who actually respond to (buy from) SPAM?
Because this could even slashdot the police with received death threats. Therefore it is a terroristic act. Go tell W.
And what will they do when they find out that the person they sent it to was actually a woman?
penis enlargers, viagra, or DEATH!! or something like that ;)
Sounds like it's time to add Nigeria to the Axis of Evil? I mean, they are now threatening our lives. This is the same thing that terrorists do right?
They better be careful! Nigeria was where the yellow cake Uranium was *supposed* to be coming from? That supposition is enough for us to start bombing! Ahh, is that the sent of WAR I smell!??!??
I'm beating a dead horse. Apologies in advance...
In Nigeria, spam assassinates YOU!
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This is not terrorism. This is just death threats and blackmail. When YOU link every fucking little crime in the world with terrorism, YOU are playing right into the hands of those people who want to read every piece of mail, listen to every conversation, control your thoughts.
STOP CALLING EVERY FUCKING THING "TERRORISM" JACKASS!
Jokes asides, these people are threathening innocent web users of DEATH here. I don't know about you, but if I'd received such a letter by snail mail, it would been at least worthy of a police/state police/fbi investigation? Its gone way too far. WTF!?!
This is a stolen sig.
That's a huge savings, and it could be considered self defense
It would be self-defense if a guy was sneaking around your bushes with a sniper rifle, not if he'd merely made threats. In order for deadly force to be justifiable as self-defense, there has to be a clear and immediate danger.
If you took out a contract on the person it would be first degree murder. Maybe the judge would see mitigating circumstances and give you life without parole instead of sending you to the electric chair.
Ah... hmmm.
Is it too late to defect to Soviet Russia??
hey i am scared. turn off all the spam filters and provider means of deleting my spam even before it gets to my inbox.
otherwise, how could i read the nice death threats that them nigs (nigerians) send me, and so i couldnt save my poor little life and pay them the sum they ask for...
jeezuz, i always knew, spam protection is a scam itself.
spam can save your life. u better start reading all the spam you get _TODAY_
You GUTLESS piece of West African SHIT! You haven't got the balls to off the kleptocratic assholes who are running your third rate petroleum state into the ground, so why should I fear you? You scum sucking RETARD!
You don't know who I am, you don't know where I live,so FUCK YOU! Come here and lick my butthole clean you PATHETIC PIECE OF CRAP!
Come and GET ME! Why? Because I'm one of several million good Americans who believe in the SECOND AMENDMENT, and I WILL CHEERFULLY BLAST YOUR NASTY LITTLE NADS OFF with my SHOTGUN(S) and then let MY DOGS have you for DINNER.
So fuck off you cowardly piece of worm ridden dogshit. In fact, calling you dogshit is an insult to excrement. Go choke yourself, asshole.
Haven't heard back from him yet.
Probably won't.
RS
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
fucking nigers :P
If anyone gets one of these let me know - I'll not kill you for only £20K, heck introduce a friend and I'll not kill them too for a mere extra £5K (as long as they apply at the same time as you).
We're talking major savings here AT THESE PRICES I CAN'T KEEP THIS OFFER GOING FOR TOO LONG - HURRY WHILE IT LASTS!!!
AT&ROFLMAO
Okay, the 419 scams are pretty weird to start with, but this... something about it just doesn't ring true. So far, there only seems to be one of these emails out there. It's pretty well known among the web-savvy that if you mention Nigeria in combination with any sum of money, you're probably talking about a scam. Throwing in assassination seems overkill.
This seems more likely to be a "Joe Job" to get someone else in trouble.
Happiness is relative, Based upon the way we live.
Dear Mr Nigerian Scammer,
How fortunate that you should make your threats today. You see today I received an email from Maryam Abacha regarding the death of her husband, General Sani Abacha the late former head of state of Nigeria. She has deposited $30 million US into a bank account and all I have to do to recover it is help her retrieve the rest of her $700 million. She says all she requires is my phone and fax numbers, but if you'll promise not to threaten me again I'll pass yours on instead. Can I have these details as well as your address please?
If this should fail I am told I qualify for a $300,000 for as little as $700 a month. This is amazing considering my bad credit, but I'll send you that email address too.
If both of these fail may I suggest that you do the following, and I will personally send you the cash:
1) Have a sign made up that says "This is what all us scammers deserve"
2) Castrate yourself.
3) Shove your newly removed member up your backside.
4) Take a picture of this and send it to me by email.
Have a nice day Mr scammer.
Seriously these people have gone from preying on greed to preying on paranoia. They need to go down.
These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
This is why I love reading the register:
"We hasten to add that he has not, however, just shot his best mate and buried his face in an enormous pile of cocaine."
You just don't find that kind of reporting on the mainstream news.
Dear Towogbola,
Thank you for contacting me regarding my imminent demise at the hands of a paid killer. I appreciate your forthrightness and honesty regarding this situation.
However, I do not have $40k right now and beyond that, I have a moral issue with being threatened when I do not feel I deserve it (and sometimes, when I do). Instead of wiring you the money, I have chosen option B (detailed below). Please do not worry about your fate, as the immortal soul of a human is not responsible for the actions of the material body (which you will soon be leaving behind), and in your next life, perhaps you will not be born into an ass-backwards crime state populated mainly by weak cowards such as your current incarnation. Anyway, may the best man win.
Yours truly, the best man.
*Option B involves me doing to you what you threatened to do to me. Also known as "If you can't take the heat, get the hell out of MY kitchen." Did you see the trailer for The Bourne Supremacy? Plan B is like that. Except, you don't have the defensive resources of a superpower nation-state to keep me from ending you. Well, sleep tight. Tired people are too easy to kill.
"A witty saying proves nothing." ~Voltaire
"d'Oh!" ~Homer
Just ask the cops. You and the person threatening to kill you could be standing right next to 2 Saint Louis officers, but if you complained, you'd be asked if you were the president. So apparently all death threats are legal in Saint Louis unless someone threatens to kill you and you happen to be the president. Otherwise you're on your own.
As so.. just need to make it look official looking:
from: genhammond@dod.gov
to: spammer
Dear Mr. Spammer,
You have made a death threat against a citizen of the United States of America.
In accordance with the Patriot Act, and the Defense Act of the United States, I am authorized and obligated
to conduct an operation to deploy force against you.
However, in this time of war, missiles are a rare commodity best spent fighting terrorists instead of
pathetic lowlifes like yourself. As such, I am willing to spare your life, if you deposit $250000 in US funds
into account #453234576 of the Bank of America.
You have 48 hours to comply, or you will be destroyed. There will be no negotiations.
Hammond.
from: rumsfield@pentagon.gov
to: genhammond@dod.gov
General,
You are authorized to deploy two (2) cruise missiles in the state of Nigeria under Patriot Act sect 3202.
I expect the operation will be complete within 72 hours, as discussed.
from: prez@whitehouse.gov
to: rumsfield@pentagon.gov
Monkeyman sez:
Very well. But I want something good. Explosions and all. We will discuss this at meeting today.
from: rumsfield@pentagon.gov
to: prez@whitehouse.gov
I think that's a little extreme right now..
Iran and Syria plans may be compromised if we proceed. Recommend scaling back.
from: tenet@cia.gov
to: ashcroft@pentagon.gov
Please make the necessary arrangements.
from: prez@whitehouse.gov
to: tenet@cia.gov
Monkeyman sez:
Nuke the bastards.
from: tenet@cia.gov
to: prez@whitehouse.gov
Mr. President,
Recommend operatives work with Nigerian police to apprehend this suspect.
from: director@fbi.gov
to: tenet@cia.gov
See below. Possible threat to national security.
from: agent75091@fbi.gov
to: director@fbi.gov
This is a CIA matter.. please forward to the appropriate people.
from: myemail
to: SNITCH@fbi.gov
I am the maverick of Slashdot
You are protecting the rock instead of the other way around.
Panic at Nigerian 'killer calls'
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3906607.stm
Here's one on usenet from 2001...
Bush doesn't read his e-mail account. He has someone read them and just tell him the important stuff.
Produce a mandatory sum of US $40,000.00 {FOURTHY THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS} only, into our account given below in nigeria within ninety six hours {96} ,alternatively George Bush will be re-elected.
Dear Towogbola,
Thank you for your email. Being a Vietnam Vet at one time I really enjoyed killing. Since then I haven't had the oppertunity to kill anyone legally in the last 30 years and I truly love a fire fight. I look forward to the arrival of your hench men and have left my front door unlocked for easy access. You will recieve their heads via Fedex next day air after feeding their bodies to my hounds to confirm the kills.
To keep your company from suffering the loss of capital covering the death of your employees please send $80,000.00 US DOLLARS to my paypal account.
HAVE A BLESSED DAY!
Kindest Regards,
Epod DelelosiOh, I'm sorry. I forgot; "They just wouldn't DO something like that!"
-FL
But not everyone's perfect.
"Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
I spent eight years in Federal prison and nobody ever threatened me with being "snipped"!
As for "gunned down"... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Come on down, Nigerian niggers!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Richard Steven Hack - This sig is TOO GODDAMN SHORT TO DO ANYTHING USEFUL WITH! MORONS!
... unfortunately it's mostly Christians on top of the oil (who have their environment totally trashed during extraction), so invading for the sake of the Christians and the oil isn't a coherent policy. (Would we let that bother us?)
Does anyone know whether most of the Nigerian scammers are Muslim or Christian? The country's split about evenly betweent the two groups. If it's the Muslims, well, some of them are fairly free about killing people....
On the more serious side (more serious than murder?): Why doesn't the West simply cut off all electronic banking connections into Nigeria? Phone and Internet lines too? Obviously, because they have lots of oil. Still, if we cut them off, and they cut us off, who would give up first? Can the most-populated African country survive without the world?
"with their freedom lost all virtue lose" - Milton
From the article:
Looks like somebody's getting fired from Marketing.Since they felt that lindows infringed on windows, they are now only one letter away from having linux infringe on lindows, in the same way. All they need to do now is buy a vowel and then Linus is in big trouble.
The difference between Canada and the USA is that in Canada healthcare is a right and gun ownership is a privilege.
I worked at this internet cafe in Portland, OR last year. Apparently someone who posted to a few message board from our shop who had intimate knowledge (that was not public) of a cop slaying in northern CA just two days previous. The FBI came to our cafe and said they'd copy the HDDs for evidence. My boss offered to make ghost images and gave them a 4 hours timeframe. They said they had special software and could do it in half that. The 2 agents made a call and a bunch more showed up.
They hooked up new HDDs and installed software. It took them 8 hours and 7 agents (most just standing around), I think 2 were technicians they called in and the rest just showed up for the hell of it. When the job was done, instead of giving us the copies and taking the originals they took thier copies with them.
The thing is, we wiped the temp spaces daily. You'd thnk they would take the originals and get down to some serious forensic data retrieval. Not the case...
Oh wait, Dick and Rummy say there's no oil there? Oh well, it must not be important then.
With a cable crimper... oh the humanity!
One god, one market, one truth, one consumer.
This sounds like the "Deadly Viper Assassination Squad"
In fact, I bet the creator of this scam had that idea after having watched Kill Bill, but he watched it in it's nigerian translation, and he tried to translate that back into english, and there we go: INTERNATIONAL ASSASINATORS AND WORLD SECURITY ORGANISATIONS
perception is reality
congratulation's NIGGERS
YOU HAVE JUST MANAGED TO PISS OFF A WHOLE CONTRY OF HALF CRAZED GUN TOTING PSYCHOPATH'S
JUST LOOKING FOR A REASON TO HUNT DOWN A BUNCH OF MORONIC RAGHEADS FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT
So lets see
- Our president has attacked and invaded another contry for no justifiable reason
- 70% of American's own or have access to a weapon
- America has a considerable amount of Militia Men who are just dying for ANY excuse to kill someone else.
- By sending this email it is guaranteed to be
- forwarded to the FBI
- forwarded to the CIA
- forwaded to someone who is known to be a gun toting maniac looking for a reason to kill anyone
- Also consider that we have a psychotic maniac in the white-house that thinks the only way he can get reelected is by being a war time president and he is loosing in the election pols
By the Way if anyone has actually gotten one of these letters please post it on-Lucas
Dear assasination company: Im not giving you squat. Ill be waiting for you on the corner of clinton and boardwalk in my hometown on 7/24/04 so you can kill me. Ill be wearing a green shirt and no pants, so ill be easy to spot. COME GET ME! MUAHAHAHA! Sincerely, Hugh Jass
All misspellings and grammatical errors in the above post are intentional and part of my artistic expression.
It worked with mortage spammers, and I'm convinced that it would work equally with 419 spammers. It attacks them via the same statistical model that they use.
Spamming is based on two sem-related statistics:
What we're currently suffering under is #2: That was the initial response to spammers -- don't respond, and hope that they go away. Unfortunately, that's overwhelmed by #1. We just got it a bit wrong.
It's not that we shouldn't respond to them -- it's that we should not give them our business.
If everybody who was annoyed by spam (i.e. everybody reading this) spent 1 minute a day doing something intended to annoy the spamming community, we'd make their life hell. Remember: there's thousands of times as many of us as there are of them. 1 minute a day times the billion or so internet users out there would come to millions of man-hours would come to about 50,000 man-years per month. Even if our one-minute of work cost them an average of one second to respond to it, that would come to ovef 10,000 man=years/to deal with our counter-spamming over the next year -- and that's 24hour day years, not 8-hour shift-days.
Considering that there's only supposed to be about 100 or so hard-core spammers out there, that means that we're looking at about 100 person-years which means that (at 3 shifts/day), that each spammer would have to hire about 300 people just to shift thru our responses to find legitimate 'marks'.
And there are other things we can do to them too...
- Engage them in useless conversations.
- find out which credit cards they accept, and write/phone those companies asking them to dump them. (enough requests will cause them to do a profit-loss analysis)
- do anything you can think of that would cause them to lose time/money/energy.
Don't let the above list limit you. Come up with your own ideas. Remember -- You don't have to spend a large ammount of time on this. More to the point, you shouldn't spend a large ammount of time on this. The strength is in the numbers.Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
Until someone is gunned down,
OK. Now you all have been wishing to make some difference against spam. Who's the first? Choose, into the head or into the heart.
__
Men with no respect for life must never be allowed to control the ultimate instruments of death.
GW Bu
bring it on little man... bring it on.
GWB
Oh good, I'm not the only one who had no idea what the fuck merionesianly meant.
"Why Subscribe?" Good question...
How can they suck money out of an account just by knowing the bank account number?
As far as I was aware, it would still need some fraud on their part, since bank account numbers really aren't secret - you give them to all and sundry to set up automatic deposits (eg. to get paid into your account etc.)
So any money they did manage to get away with would be a loss due to the bank's lack of security measures, and the bank would have to pay it back - the bank loses, not you.
Or is there something I'm missing?
Unless you have been dumb enough to give them your address at some point, surely there is no way they could find you, especially if you have used a fake name like the guys over at http://www.419eater.com/ (Shiver Metimbers, Luke I Amyofatha, Ivanna Tinkle, etc.). If ISPs won't even give your personal information to the RIAA, surely they won't give it to Nigerian "snippers!" http://www.419eater.com/ even has stories of people getting money from the Nigerian 419 scammers! By the looks of the lengths some of these 419 scammers are willing to go (holding signs that say "Arse Bandits," putting fish on their heads, etc.) I see little chance in their orchestration of an assassination!
"Dear Assassinator,
did you ever notice that that to be an assassin, you have to have two asses?"
don't you mean "Emaciated" ? ;-)
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know when your gonna get food poisoning.
THAT was fucking funny! Hahahaha!
Interesting to say the least. It seems to almost identically mirror the email version.
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know when your gonna get food poisoning.
Also, to be 'sniped' and gunned-down are pretty much the same thing there guys....
Sniped implies getting hit with a bullet. If you get bludgeoned to death with a gun, that technically could be "gunned-down".
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
since that article about the scammers getting scammed themselves happened, now they're sending out scams about killing people.. someone's upset.. aww.
I suicidal a lot anyway :-P
in my life God comes first.... but Linux is pretty high after that
Francis Smit
you shouldn't do this. Why is social acceptable for people to tease & bully people with speech impediments when it isn't if they've got other disabilities? Having a speech impediment ruined my time at school. I had no friends and was forced to drop out. I literally had people chaising me with knives, saying "want a bishcuit?" and trying to set me on fire because of this speech impediment. Meanwhile TV advertisements were being regularly run that showed those with speech impediments as being mentally retarded.
The worst thing about having a speech impediment is that people do not interpret it as being a disability like being paralysed, but being an integral reflection of the person's intelligency. People who would think of the 'poor dear' over someone in a wheelchair will view you with discust.
So please don't do this. Of course, I expect most people reading this article wouldn't care and just go "ha ha" like Nelson in the Simpsons. In my experience, most young males are highly abusive when given half a chance.
Hunted down and taken offline with a bullet to the head.
Humm, snipers and all that eh?
All I have to say is they had better make the first shot count, cause the second one is mine, and it will count as a final settlement. The only time I've had to use more shots the target was 640 yards away. That took 3, nice buck too.
Screw 'em, and the camel that rode in on them too.
Cheers, Gene
I know for a fact that at least one Federal appellate judge has received one of these. (How do I know? I was fixing his Net connection and saw it in the Inbox.)
Don't expect the government to do anything. First, it's not a threat directed at the officeholder; this is a To Whom It May Concern. Which means that while it's still an offense the Feds can get involved over, the Feds would (a) say "we've got bigger fish to fry" and (b) there'd be a bureaucratic fight over who had authority--would it be US Marshals Service, the by-law protectors of the Judiciary? Would it be the FBI, since this is international extortion and wire fraud? Would it be the Secret Service, since this is financial crime using our nation's banking system? Would it be the Federal Trade Commission, since this is spam?
So the long and short of it is (a) the Feds don't care, since they've got bigger fish to fry, and (b) even if they did care, they'd spend a year locked in committee meetings just figuring out who had lead on this one.
Ah, cheap and puerile cynicism which gets modded up as 'insightful'. God, I love Slashdot.
Recently, a friend of mine who works in the Federal public defender's office was brutally attacked when she was jogging. The litany of injuries is almost too shocking to be believed. It's definitely the worst beating I've ever heard of. In the interests of Jane's medical privacy, I'm not going to go into details. It's enough to say the injuries were horrific and turned my stomach, and I've been through EMT school and emergency-room rotations.
The FBI was on the case within hours of Jane's body being discovered. Before she was even out of surgery the FBI was on the streets asking questions. There was absolutely no evidence that Jane was targeted for her work as a Federal employee, but y'know what? The FBI agents didn't seem to care all that much. What they cared about was that an innocent woman was beaten so badly she wasn't recognizable anymore, strangled, left for dead and still alive only by a miracle and a Lifeline helicopter flight. That was what they cared about. The fact she was a Federal employee was just what gave the FBI freedom to get involved.
Now, the brutal mugging of a pretty woman doesn't threaten anyone's bottom line. It costs a lot of money to do the full-court press. It takes a lot of overtime and a lot of dedication. And the FBI did so because she was an American citizen and someone put an Old Testament hurt on her and that pissed the FBI off.
The local police now have a suspect in the case. A local whacko who targeted Jane because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Nothing Federal about it. The FBI didn't hog the spotlight, they didn't grandstand for the cameras. It was enough that the guy was caught, and they genuinely didn't give a damn if they got props for it or not.
That's the FBI.
Do they screw up? Sure. Of course. There's no organization on earth that doesn't.
But you're screwing up, too, by believing the most puerile, most cynical things about the FBI, without ever bothering to consider the good, responsible law-enforcement work they do that never makes the papers.
Of all philosophies, cynicism unalloyed by idealism is the most bankrupt, most hollow.
(If you want more information to make sure I'm not making this up, check the Iowa City or Cedar Rapids newspapers for information on Jane Kelly of the public defender's office.)
I've got this open in a tab in Mozilla. The title is truncated, fittingly enough, into "Slashdot | 419ers Diversify Into Ass....".
________________________________________________
suwain_2
'ridiculize'?
Christ, did anybody on Slashdot ever go to school?
All these responses involve feeding people to dogs, not sure why.
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Like 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov.
I was looking for an e-mail with the Nigerian police, but couldn't find any...
An engineer who ran for Congress. http://herbrobinson.us
One could try to transfer money out of the account. It's illegal if they file a complaint, but I bet they wouldn't dare. I'm not sure if it's illegal if they don't file a complaint. Then again, I suppose you could always claim you misread the e-mail and initiated the transfer in the wrong direction....
An engineer who ran for Congress. http://herbrobinson.us
These Nigerian scam guys may look like a joke to most of us, but they are dangerous criminals who would, in fact, kill you if you make trouble and they could get a hand on you. There have been several occasions already, for example a Norwegian businessman named Kjetil Moe in 1999. The guy was 65 years old and of the old school where he thought that any problems could be resolved by a face-to-face meeting. He actually travelled to South-Africa to meet these guys. He promptly went missing and was found killed later. The newspaper coverage was quite intensive at the time. Here's one link.
STANDARD TRUST BANK VICTORIA ISLAND BRANCH LAGOS
If the bank is in Nigeria, the scam is Nigerian, even if the operator of the crime is from Germany, South Africa or South Florida.
Beyond that, I would agree that not all so-called 419 scams originate or route through Nigeria, however - to this day - a fairly high percentage of these scans do originate or route through Nigeria.
Kinetic stupidity has a new brand leader: Allen Zadr.
Does it cover sexual harassment?
Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
Just ask Cheney! I'm surprised we haven't invaded them already. Then again, having your Army strained to the breaking point by a useless war may have cooled even this adminstration's desire to start any more. Sean
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Invade nigeria and confiscate all computers, labeling them as WMS's (Weapons of Mass Scams).
use moneybookers and send moneybookers account details to them. that way you can be safe and they cant suck money out of you.
moneybookers.com
I don't belive anyone would pay $40,000 to anyone to have someone else given a vasectomey
Saying Apple is better than MS is like saying Botulism is better than rabies.
How about we offer to send them the funds either as a personal cheque, or international money order. You could write it from a dummy account, of course, but in order for it to be cashed wouldn't it have to have the proper name of the recipient?
I think what we need is a bank that will allow us to make "bait cheques" particularly for this kind of problem, which are worth no cash value but upon receipt at another financial institution will immediately raise a flag that the recipient is a scammer...
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email indicating that I was targeted for execution which could be prevented by the deposit of US$40k to your bank account. Please be advised that we have traced the account and for the princely sum of US$5k have hired a group of African hitmen who are happy to take out your entire organisation and the officials of the bank you mentioned.
Perhaps you can consider the folly of charging First World Rates when perfectly competant professionals are available at Third World rates. These professionals can not only do the same work as you at a lower rate, they can also ensure that you and your organisation are removed from future bidding. In Western cultures it's usually referred to as "Outsourcing" and if it can work for IT, it can work for assassinations too.
We look forward to doing business with you in future lives...
Regards,
xyz
I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down...
If not for any other reason, the diplomatic pressure could be aimed at making it harder for criminals to have anonymous bank accounts - and by anonymous, I also mean the accounts made on badly forged IDs.
You are right. Crying, "Obvious!" certainly doesn't 'prove' that a psy-ops group is involved with the proliferation of spam and virus static on the web. But then I also certainly don't need hard evidence to be 90% convinced of it being the case. To not take past behavior into account and then make projections based on it is to deliberately ignore critical data.
What you are suggesting is that there is NO manipulative attempt being made on the part of one of the MANY well-funded covert groups whose sole purpose is to shape social behavior and force political situations advantageous to their employers. If the internet, one of the only remaining conduits of free communication in the world, were not being targeted by these groups, then they'd be seriously slacking off at the switch!
-FL
For somebody so ready to accuse another of not knowing what they are talking about, you're awfully quick to make groundless assumptions about the sources of my knowledge. Think about that for a second or two, and what it signifies. .
In any case, there are many more sources of data walking around out there than just the internet and print publications. You clearly need to do some better research, because I can assure you that I am not the one filled with erroneous notions.
-FL