Bible thumper...might be agitating to you, but still the truth. Yeah, "Welcome to Science", just trying to point out that "Hey, you can draw conclusions like scientists do!" I never "Blew off religion entirely", not once. I may have blown off Christianity and their belief in their god, but not religion. One day, christianity will become "Christian mythology" just like the greek/norse/egyptian/american indian/ mythology.
Ok, you can be "THOSE" too, that's fine. You are also one whose bible beliefs are based on the 60 different ways you can interpret words and sentences. That, coupled with blaming it on poor translation, makes it sound like you are trying to justify just spending $100 on a tarrot card reader.
Attacking you personally? I attacked the whole Catholic community, not just personally. If I had wanted to attack you personally, I'd make fun of your mom or something. That comment wasn't meant to reinforce my discussion with you, it rhetorical. I could have just as well used the spanish inquisition.
Yeah ok, god exists out of time. If I were a fantasy writer, wanting to create an uber superhero, I'd say he can travel in more than three dimensions too.
The whole idea of ridiculing someone for believing in somthing unproven while
That's funny, I don't recall ridiculing him, perhaps that's your interpretation. I never said "faith" in itself was a bad thing, I just said that religion was based heavily on it, and that stands to reason.
It is the apparently rampant practice of ridiculing another's faith while having your own that makes you look bad. #1. I never expressed my own, or even implied I have one; I was merely point out the logic mismatches in his. #2. I don't care about "looking bad", especially about/.. I have bigger fish to fry.
I also find it terribly ironic that you accuse the poster you responded to of 'picking arguments' and then you did the exact same thing. Haha, yeah you're right. I "picked" my arguments. I should have just disproved the whole bible while I was at it. Why on earth would I just chose to argue every point he made, and not every single one that has ever come up?
There is in fact a ton of argument over whether the word used in Genesis means... Awww, fuck. You're one of _THOSE_ people. So instead of the grandparent, who decided to argue just certain bible things, you want to argue the definitions of words. Allow me to attempt to edify you: If you keep changing the definitions of words, you will get nowhere.
For fucks sake, a day is a fucking day. Nowhere else in the bible does it _EVER_ imply that a day is longer than 24 hours, and "days" are mentioned many times in the old testament. In fact, everywhere else in the old testament, a day is the period between dawn and dawn.
Now get back to sodomizing little boys before you hurt your head.
Like any bible thumper, you are picking and choosing your arguments.
The age of the earth is not mentioned biblically. Indeed, but isn't the creation of everything mentioned? I seem to recall they say he created people just a few days after the earth. So, to be pragmatic, the earth is mans age (x) plus a few days (3 for example): x+3 days.
You're right, it isn't a coincidence -- we have the same designer! Good job, you pointed out this fact can be used in creationism as well as evolution.
shows EVERY KNOWN PHYLUM coming into existence fully formed Yeah, welcome to science. 542mya multicellular organisms started showing up. This is quite a bit older than what the bible says. That it was an explosion is far from a fact, it's still being debated in the scientific community. There are many theories that can explain it, including your "god" one. Some of the more-fact based ones are:
and if you call all disproved scientific ideas "religion" then you can say that all bad ideas are religious, Sounds good to me, as religion relies heavily on faith, and faith is really just someone taking guesses.
No offense, but I don't want to duke it out with you story by story, I just hoped to make a point.
Indeed, small companies do provide very good support (mainly because you can get the top level guys within a few minutes), but the points detailed in my previous points still happen.
At any rate, yes, it seems like I solve most of my problems while I'm waiting for them too.
Yahoo uses mysql for an application for which they loose thousands of dollars a minute if the DB goes down?
That has to be one of the worst cases of sentence mangling I've seen in a long time. I was arguing that companies, with a 50 BILLION dollar market cap run mysql, they are doing just fine. If you think they are stupid for it, fine, but I don't see you doing any better.
Anyway, no I don't work for yahoo, but I can read:
With oracle contracts, if you call in at 10:00pm on a saturday their time, you don't need to worry about this person:
A. Having a screaming baby in the background. B. Having a screaming wife in the background. C. Being piss drunk at a bar. D. Not being able to provide you undivided attention because they're at the movies. E. Not at a friends house playing a video game. F. Calling you back later because they are not at a computer right now. G. On a camping trip with the entire company, and the only person at the office is the receptionist.
Trust me, I've worked for and with companies that provide cell-phone number support, and these is way too common.
No, I don't have 35 people supporting me, and by no means am I advocating that oracle support is the best. I am just saying Oracle, IBM, et. al. support seems to offer:
A. Attention to detail. B. A standardized environment.
So what if you're talking to a level2 right away. It's that level2s job to ascertain whether he can help me; If he cannot, he'll escalate, there is nothing wrong with this.
Thanks, but I don't remember going around asking about how many dbas work for peoples companies. I just said one guru cannot provide enterprise support.
One look at there terrible website would turn me off. If they don't have the time to dedicate to their professional image, what am I supposed to show my CIO? He would laugh at these guys, they can't even write HTML. http://www.sra.co.jp/public/sra/contact/index-en.h tml They might be the best in the world, but people tend to trust the ones who pay attention to detail.
One guru could support a small company on a database. One guy would not be able to provide enterprise level support for one database. Perhaps your definition of enterprise is "a 8 person law firm". Mine, OTOH, is something like a $500M+ public company that could lose thousands of dollars a minute on downtime. If that's my thousands of dollars a minute, I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to only hire one person, much less some wanna be support company.
That's tough dude...I've mad a few m-i-l jabs and all of them funny, and most to do with her weight, and I've been modded funny everytime. You seemed to draw the short straw though.
Note to mods--read the headline of the article, then the body of this post, this is a joke and quite funny.
We don't have enough holy land to satisfy the world...seriously, the palastinians (sp) and jews and everyone else don't care about food, they want israel. Fuck it, give it to them, and give me some friends with intelligence.
You're obviously no admin if you're talking about an app kill-9ing itself. That's the worst thing that could possibly happen, I've had juniors work for me trying it, it took me a few times to figure out why the server kept crashing.
Kill-9ing does not always clean memory, open files, sockets, etc.
Besides, as far as I know, a good many of these problems are because the earth doesn't have enough resources.
Imagine the day when we can start new countries on different planets, when the human population grows exponentially because we have populated more than one place. We could ideally form an indefinite amount of governments and societies, some for the religious people, some for the not so religious. That era, not this one, is the best time to be alive.
We're going to stuck on this religious, corrupt planet until we figure out how to get the hell out of here.
Call it ridiculuous, sure. But think about it, this is what you "feed the hungry" people don't realize:
This problem will _NEVER_ go away.
There will always be a bell curve, always. There will always been unemployed, there will always be starving people, and there will always be homeless. We might as well try to get ahead now, because we'll fight the homeless/hungry disease for a very long time.
Bible thumper...might be agitating to you, but still the truth.
Yeah, "Welcome to Science", just trying to point out that "Hey, you can draw conclusions like scientists do!"
I never "Blew off religion entirely", not once. I may have blown off Christianity and their belief in their god, but not religion. One day, christianity will become "Christian mythology" just like the greek/norse/egyptian/american indian/ mythology.
Ok, you can be "THOSE" too, that's fine. You are also one whose bible beliefs are based on the 60 different ways you can interpret words and sentences. That, coupled with blaming it on poor translation, makes it sound like you are trying to justify just spending $100 on a tarrot card reader.
Attacking you personally? I attacked the whole Catholic community, not just personally. If I had wanted to attack you personally, I'd make fun of your mom or something. That comment wasn't meant to reinforce my discussion with you, it rhetorical. I could have just as well used the spanish inquisition.
Yeah ok, god exists out of time. If I were a fantasy writer, wanting to create an uber superhero, I'd say he can travel in more than three dimensions too.
Would you believe my bible if I wrote it?
The whole idea of ridiculing someone for believing in somthing unproven while
/.. I have bigger fish to fry.
That's funny, I don't recall ridiculing him, perhaps that's your interpretation. I never said "faith" in itself was a bad thing, I just said that religion was based heavily on it, and that stands to reason.
It is the apparently rampant practice of ridiculing another's faith while having your own that makes you look bad.
#1. I never expressed my own, or even implied I have one; I was merely point out the logic mismatches in his.
#2. I don't care about "looking bad", especially about
I also find it terribly ironic that you accuse the poster you responded to of 'picking arguments' and then you did the exact same thing.
Haha, yeah you're right. I "picked" my arguments. I should have just disproved the whole bible while I was at it. Why on earth would I just chose to argue every point he made, and not every single one that has ever come up?
There is in fact a ton of argument over whether the word used in Genesis means...
Awww, fuck. You're one of _THOSE_ people. So instead of the grandparent, who decided to argue just certain bible things, you want to argue the definitions of words. Allow me to attempt to edify you: If you keep changing the definitions of words, you will get nowhere.
For fucks sake, a day is a fucking day. Nowhere else in the bible does it _EVER_ imply that a day is longer than 24 hours, and "days" are mentioned many times in the old testament. In fact, everywhere else in the old testament, a day is the period between dawn and dawn.
Now get back to sodomizing little boys before you hurt your head.
Linebreaks and paragraphs please, this is extremely hard to read. You could have just used all CAPS too.
Sorry man, I'm normally not a grammer nazi, but this is really bad.
take for granite.
It's granted.
"Take for granted":take to be the case or to be true; accept without verification or proof; "I assume his train was late"
Enjoy.
Oh Crap!
***Warning: This is not a babe in a swimming suit.***
Like any bible thumper, you are picking and choosing your arguments.
The age of the earth is not mentioned biblically. Indeed, but isn't the creation of everything mentioned? I seem to recall they say he created people just a few days after the earth. So, to be pragmatic, the earth is mans age (x) plus a few days (3 for example): x+3 days.
You're right, it isn't a coincidence -- we have the same designer! Good job, you pointed out this fact can be used in creationism as well as evolution.
shows EVERY KNOWN PHYLUM coming into existence fully formed
Yeah, welcome to science. 542mya multicellular organisms started showing up. This is quite a bit older than what the bible says. That it was an explosion is far from a fact, it's still being debated in the scientific community. There are many theories that can explain it, including your "god" one. Some of the more-fact based ones are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangian_glaciation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_warming
and
"The Cambrian Explosion has recently been a controversial topic regarding the history and evolution of life, with the idea posited that the Burgess Shale preserved such a wide variety of life and that the "Cambrian Explosion" was actually a slower radiation of animal forms than previously thought. The idea of an "explosion" of life in the Cambrian period is still being debated."
Taken from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion
and if you call all disproved scientific ideas "religion" then you can say that all bad ideas are religious,
Sounds good to me, as religion relies heavily on faith, and faith is really just someone taking guesses.
Java is not that slow. In ye olde days it had a pretty high memory overhead--it still does--but who cares anymore...
There ya go buddy, fix the problem by ignoring it! Works for others.
No offense, but I don't want to duke it out with you story by story, I just hoped to make a point.
Indeed, small companies do provide very good support (mainly because you can get the top level guys within a few minutes), but the points detailed in my previous points still happen.
At any rate, yes, it seems like I solve most of my problems while I'm waiting for them too.
WTF are you talking about?
i es/yahoo_finance.html
Yahoo uses mysql for an application for which they loose thousands of dollars a minute if the DB goes down?
That has to be one of the worst cases of sentence mangling I've seen in a long time. I was arguing that companies, with a 50 BILLION dollar market cap run mysql, they are doing just fine. If you think they are stupid for it, fine, but I don't see you doing any better.
Anyway, no I don't work for yahoo, but I can read:
http://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/success-stor
Thank you!
/., don't actually understand what "freedom of speech" means.
Too many people, especially people here on
I disagree.
Yahoo heavily depends on mysql, and it runs just fine. In fact, I used finance.yahoo.com to look up a market cap of 51.27B for yahoo.
Pay attention, then perhaps, someday, you may be able to prove something.
With oracle contracts, if you call in at 10:00pm on a saturday their time, you don't need to worry about this person:
A. Having a screaming baby in the background.
B. Having a screaming wife in the background.
C. Being piss drunk at a bar.
D. Not being able to provide you undivided attention because they're at the movies.
E. Not at a friends house playing a video game.
F. Calling you back later because they are not at a computer right now.
G. On a camping trip with the entire company, and the only person at the office is the receptionist.
Trust me, I've worked for and with companies that provide cell-phone number support, and these is way too common.
No, I don't have 35 people supporting me, and by no means am I advocating that oracle support is the best. I am just saying Oracle, IBM, et. al. support seems to offer:
A. Attention to detail.
B. A standardized environment.
So what if you're talking to a level2 right away. It's that level2s job to ascertain whether he can help me; If he cannot, he'll escalate, there is nothing wrong with this.
Yeah, most Linux apps did this long before OSX was out.
That's nice. My points still stand.
Thanks, but I don't remember going around asking about how many dbas work for peoples companies. I just said one guru cannot provide enterprise support.
One look at there terrible website would turn me off. If they don't have the time to dedicate to their professional image, what am I supposed to show my CIO?h tml
He would laugh at these guys, they can't even write HTML.
http://www.sra.co.jp/public/sra/contact/index-en.
They might be the best in the world, but people tend to trust the ones who pay attention to detail.
One guru could support a small company on a database. One guy would not be able to provide enterprise level support for one database.
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Perhaps your definition of enterprise is "a 8 person law firm". Mine, OTOH, is something like a $500M+ public company that could lose thousands of dollars a minute on downtime.
If that's my thousands of dollars a minute, I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to only hire one person, much less some wanna be support company.
Instead, I would hire a company with:
a plan ( http://www.mysql.com/company/ ) or
a proven track record ( http://www.oracle.com/customers/partners/index.ht
or, at the very least, one that my friends recommend.
Hahaha!
He said enterprise support, not a group of 10 d00ds that help "develop" postgres.
Anyway, the "scalability problems" is still unrefuted, and I'd venture to say that needs to be solved before you start claiming "enterprise support".
That's tough dude...I've mad a few m-i-l jabs and all of them funny, and most to do with her weight, and I've been modded funny everytime. You seemed to draw the short straw though.
Note to mods--read the headline of the article, then the body of this post, this is a joke and quite funny.
We don't have enough holy land to satisfy the world...seriously, the palastinians (sp) and jews and everyone else don't care about food, they want israel. Fuck it, give it to them, and give me some friends with intelligence.
You're obviously no admin if you're talking about an app kill-9ing itself.
That's the worst thing that could possibly happen, I've had juniors work for me trying it, it took me a few times to figure out why the server kept crashing.
Kill-9ing does not always clean memory, open files, sockets, etc.
Kill-9 on my systems, and suffer my kill-9.
Besides, as far as I know, a good many of these problems are because the earth doesn't have enough resources.
Imagine the day when we can start new countries on different planets, when the human population grows exponentially because we have populated more than one place. We could ideally form an indefinite amount of governments and societies, some for the religious people, some for the not so religious. That era, not this one, is the best time to be alive.
We're going to stuck on this religious, corrupt planet until we figure out how to get the hell out of here.
Sure I'm dreaming, but it's a nice thought.
Call it ridiculuous, sure. But think about it, this is what you "feed the hungry" people don't realize:
This problem will _NEVER_ go away.
There will always be a bell curve, always. There will always been unemployed, there will always be starving people, and there will always be homeless. We might as well try to get ahead now, because we'll fight the homeless/hungry disease for a very long time.
Not to mention the fact that if it's in your pocket, the twins are recieving the radiation.