Yep, read your copied post up above. Now go read mine, and admit you are wrong. TONS of people interpret "Don't talk to cops" as "Don't talk to cops, period."
WRONG. Read these other posters. There are a lot of posters who believe that reporting your wallet being stolen, for example, is a waste of time.
In fact, NOT talking to cops is one of the reason for sky high violence rates in inner city America. People have had bad experiences with cops, so if that person is a victim of a crime themselves, they are less likely to go to cops, and MORE likely to take matters into their own hands, which escalates levels of violence. In fact, it's been put forward by many sociologists that there exists a separate level of justice in America, that is, street justice, whereby people take it upon themselves to exact revenge, or to steal something back from someone they believe stole something from them, and to avoid talking to the cops whenever possible, EVEN TO REPORT CRIMES. This is not a made-up thing; it is real, as evidence by some of the posters below. Pull your head out of the sand!!!
Bullshit. In some cases you will get your wallet back, if the person is caught at a later date. Always report thefts to police. The police can't return your property to you later if you do not report it stolen. Here in SF cops busted a guy who had 20 bikes in his house and was a recidivist bike thief. The cops could only return a few because many people did not report their bike stolen.
I'm sure you have had bad experiences with cops, and I too have met my share of asshole cops.
But I've seen tons and tons of interactions with cops where an average person will report a crime, a theft or an assault, and the cops will act respectful, try to get information, and then act on it.
This is just dumb. There are countless cops, all over the country, all over the world in fact, who will try to help you if you have been a victim of a crime. This stupid cynical response is the bane of our society at the moment. SOME cops are bad. And you shouldn't talk to one if they are suspicious of you.
But if you think the average cop is going to be suspicious of a little old lady who reports that a mugger just knocked her over and took her handbag, you are a complete tool. Come back to REALITY.
These are stupid rules, and should not be followed.
Q. "So your ex-boyfriend reached into your car window, grabbed your Bichon Frise and tossed it into oncoming traffic? That's horrible! Where does your ex-boyfriend live? We will go get him." A. "I want my lawyer."
If your actual response is to actually not contact law enforcement in the above situation, then you deserve what you get. Or perhaps you have a good reason for not having the cops know of your existence, such as a parole violation.
Unless the cops ask you questions that to which your talking to the cops might actually make you safer.
Q. "There is a rampage killer on the loose. We think he went into the this mall food court in which you are enjoying your nice cup of coffee. Did you see which way he went? Your quick response might save lives!" A. "Maybe, but..well, mum's the word."
This should say "Q. "Hey dude, I'm Officer McIlroy...this guy just stole an old lady's handbag and knocked her to the ground. Quick, did you see which way HE went?" A. "I want my lawyer."
The correct translation of the video is "Don't talk to cops when they suspect you of something."
Somehow, in the warped world of many of the anti-cop posters here, this gets warped into "Don't talk to cops for any reason whatsoever."
Q. "Hey dude, I'm Officer McIlroy...this guy just stole an old lady's handbag and knocked her to the ground. Quick, did you see which way she went?" A. "I want my lawyer."
Q. "So you have come to report your car was stolen. Approximately what time did you notice it missing?" A. "I want my lawyer."
Q. "You are calling to report your house was broken into and your computer was stolen?" A. "Yes, but I want my lawyer."
Q. "Everyone remain calm...we need everyone to evacuate the building. There's a fire in the basement. Follow us, we will lead you to safety." A. "I want my lawyer."
Q. "So your ex-boyfriend reached into your car window, grabbed your Bichon Frise and tossed it into oncoming traffic? That's horrible! Where does your ex-boyfriend live? We will go get him." A. "I want my lawyer."
If you believe the "only correct answer" is "I want my lawyer" in the above scenarios, then you deserve whatever crimes befall you. Grow up.
If you try to report your car was stolen to the police, and your response to the cop when he asks you when it was stolen is simply to provide your lawyers name, you will never get your car back, and the cop will (rightly) think you are an idiot.
The true translation of these videos is "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something." which is entirely reasonable.
It's a stupid video. The gist of the video is "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something."
If you have been assaulted, the cops will generally try to help you if they can. If your response when your car is stolen is to not talk to the cops to report your car stolen, then you are a complete fool.
Bullshit. Talk to police if you are a victim of a crime. If you have been assaulted, had stuff stolen, or any have had any number of other horrible things that happen daily to people in this country minding their own business, then the cops are the first people you want to talk to after you call 911. They will usually try to track down the person, if they are able to, and they will ask you reasonable questions.
Anyone who thinks the first response of a cop is to suspect you of a crime when you report one yourself is an idiot.
Bullshit. The thrust of that video, and all the videos out there that say the same thing, is really "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something, without counsel, ever" which is reasonable advice.
But in the real world, on planet earth, people all over the country call cops all the time to report things stolen, or assaults, or thefts, and the cops don't immediately go after the person who reports the crime. It's asinine to think that cops generally operate that way.
If they can, they will. If you have a good description, and if you can give them reasonable information to help them track the guy down, the cops will usually try to do something. If you can't provide any information about the mugger, what the hell can they do? It sucks but that is how it is.
Idiot. Every day, all over the country, there are crimes. Thousands of them.
People go and report those crimes to the cops.
The cops, if they are able to, will generally try to help.
In some cases, there's nothing they can do. But if you think that the first response of a cop if you tell him you were just assaulted on the street is to ignore you and not ask you which way the guy went, you are a complete and utter tool.
Bullshit. The vast majority of cops get into the line of work because they want to help people. If you believe that a cop's first response is to start suspecting YOU when you report a crime against you to them, you are incredibly naive and cynical. Some cops are assholes to the average person, sure. But Most of the cops I have dealt with are entirely reasonable in situations when you are reporting a crime against them.
The facts are completely against this sort of idiocy.
Day after day, year after year, people all around the country are victims of crimes by thugs. People's shit gets stolen. People are mugged. People are robbed. People are raped. People are assaulted.
And the FACTS are that in the vast majority of those cases, the average person will call 911, and the cops will come, and people will describe what happened, and the cops will do their best to HELP THEM OUT. They will try to track down the accused. They will ask reasonable questions about which way the assailants went, or what items were stolen. They will NOT start suspecting the person who reports the crime and talks to them like a reasonable person, which is what you morons seem to think cops have an overwhelming tendency to do in this alternate warped reality world you live in.
Do some cops abuse the system? Yes. Are some cops bad apples to whom you should never talk to under any circumstances? There are some, sure...but every time I come on slashdot, I see morons yelling about how bad the police, as an institution, are. Never talk to cops my ASS. My stuff got stolen from a club recently, and the club has video of who did it. I know for a fact the cops are currently trying to track the person down. Should I be a dumbass and say, "Oh well, all cops are bad, might as well live with the fact that hundreds of dollars in property of mine was stolen. I shouldn't report it because NEVER TALK TO COPS."
Bullshit.
What you people MEAN to say is "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something." That is the real, underlying meaning behind most of what the posters on here say, although they won't admit it.
The reality is, in the real world, when a serious violent crime happens to you or someone you love, you have TWO choices. A) Tell the cops B) Try to take revenge yourself. And that is NOT the way to live in a civilized society.
The problem with this is that it undermines the community aspect of games. SimCity 4 has 10 years worth of community-built content, all built for free. It's amazing, truly.
But SimCity 5 most likely will not have this sort of thing, seeing as how you must be online the entire time. What developer wants to make the Empire State Building with their own spare time if EA is going to put it on their store and sell it as a micro-transaction?
The first time I went to England, and got on the Underground, the tube, I noticed a faint, but pervasive, smell of body odor. It was not overwhelming, mind you, but it was there.
Now, either A: Those who manage the tube don't disinfect or cycle the air in the trains often, or B: British people don't wash as much.
It wasn't a big deal, but it was certainly there. This was the case every time I rode the underground for the week I was there, and by the end I had just gotten used to it and didn't notice it as much.
I also noticed this when I went to nightclubs in England...a very faint smell of B.O. Dunno why. Not being judgmental...but it was certainly there.
The San Francisco Bay Area, a metropolis if there ever was one, has a ton of windfarms just west of the city on the Altamont Pass and thereabouts. One of the largest in the world, actually.
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Yep, read your copied post up above. Now go read mine, and admit you are wrong. TONS of people interpret "Don't talk to cops" as "Don't talk to cops, period."
Our society is full of them.
WRONG. Read these other posters. There are a lot of posters who believe that reporting your wallet being stolen, for example, is a waste of time.
In fact, NOT talking to cops is one of the reason for sky high violence rates in inner city America. People have had bad experiences with cops, so if that person is a victim of a crime themselves, they are less likely to go to cops, and MORE likely to take matters into their own hands, which escalates levels of violence. In fact, it's been put forward by many sociologists that there exists a separate level of justice in America, that is, street justice, whereby people take it upon themselves to exact revenge, or to steal something back from someone they believe stole something from them, and to avoid talking to the cops whenever possible, EVEN TO REPORT CRIMES. This is not a made-up thing; it is real, as evidence by some of the posters below. Pull your head out of the sand!!!
Bullshit. In some cases you will get your wallet back, if the person is caught at a later date. Always report thefts to police. The police can't return your property to you later if you do not report it stolen. Here in SF cops busted a guy who had 20 bikes in his house and was a recidivist bike thief. The cops could only return a few because many people did not report their bike stolen.
I'm sure you have had bad experiences with cops, and I too have met my share of asshole cops.
But I've seen tons and tons of interactions with cops where an average person will report a crime, a theft or an assault, and the cops will act respectful, try to get information, and then act on it.
This is just dumb. There are countless cops, all over the country, all over the world in fact, who will try to help you if you have been a victim of a crime. This stupid cynical response is the bane of our society at the moment. SOME cops are bad. And you shouldn't talk to one if they are suspicious of you.
But if you think the average cop is going to be suspicious of a little old lady who reports that a mugger just knocked her over and took her handbag, you are a complete tool. Come back to REALITY.
These are stupid rules, and should not be followed.
Q. "So your ex-boyfriend reached into your car window, grabbed your Bichon Frise and tossed it into oncoming traffic? That's horrible! Where does your ex-boyfriend live? We will go get him."
A. "I want my lawyer."
If your actual response is to actually not contact law enforcement in the above situation, then you deserve what you get. Or perhaps you have a good reason for not having the cops know of your existence, such as a parole violation.
Unless the cops ask you questions that to which your talking to the cops might actually make you safer.
Q. "There is a rampage killer on the loose. We think he went into the this mall food court in which you are enjoying your nice cup of coffee. Did you see which way he went? Your quick response might save lives!"
A. "Maybe, but..well, mum's the word."
This should say
"Q. "Hey dude, I'm Officer McIlroy...this guy just stole an old lady's handbag and knocked her to the ground. Quick, did you see which way HE went?"
A. "I want my lawyer."
Wish I could edit.
The correct translation of the video is "Don't talk to cops when they suspect you of something."
Somehow, in the warped world of many of the anti-cop posters here, this gets warped into "Don't talk to cops for any reason whatsoever."
Q. "Hey dude, I'm Officer McIlroy...this guy just stole an old lady's handbag and knocked her to the ground. Quick, did you see which way she went?"
A. "I want my lawyer."
Q. "So you have come to report your car was stolen. Approximately what time did you notice it missing?"
A. "I want my lawyer."
Q. "You are calling to report your house was broken into and your computer was stolen?"
A. "Yes, but I want my lawyer."
Q. "Everyone remain calm...we need everyone to evacuate the building. There's a fire in the basement. Follow us, we will lead you to safety."
A. "I want my lawyer."
Q. "So your ex-boyfriend reached into your car window, grabbed your Bichon Frise and tossed it into oncoming traffic? That's horrible! Where does your ex-boyfriend live? We will go get him."
A. "I want my lawyer."
If you believe the "only correct answer" is "I want my lawyer" in the above scenarios, then you deserve whatever crimes befall you. Grow up.
If they suspect you of something, sure.
If you try to report your car was stolen to the police, and your response to the cop when he asks you when it was stolen is simply to provide your lawyers name, you will never get your car back, and the cop will (rightly) think you are an idiot.
The true translation of these videos is "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something." which is entirely reasonable.
It's a stupid video. The gist of the video is "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something."
If you have been assaulted, the cops will generally try to help you if they can. If your response when your car is stolen is to not talk to the cops to report your car stolen, then you are a complete fool.
Bullshit. Talk to police if you are a victim of a crime. If you have been assaulted, had stuff stolen, or any have had any number of other horrible things that happen daily to people in this country minding their own business, then the cops are the first people you want to talk to after you call 911. They will usually try to track down the person, if they are able to, and they will ask you reasonable questions.
Anyone who thinks the first response of a cop is to suspect you of a crime when you report one yourself is an idiot.
Bullshit. The thrust of that video, and all the videos out there that say the same thing, is really
"Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something, without counsel, ever" which is reasonable advice.
But in the real world, on planet earth, people all over the country call cops all the time to report things stolen, or assaults, or thefts, and the cops don't immediately go after the person who reports the crime. It's asinine to think that cops generally operate that way.
Come back to reality.
If they can, they will. If you have a good description, and if you can give them reasonable information to help them track the guy down, the cops will usually try to do something. If you can't provide any information about the mugger, what the hell can they do? It sucks but that is how it is.
Idiot. Every day, all over the country, there are crimes. Thousands of them.
People go and report those crimes to the cops.
The cops, if they are able to, will generally try to help.
In some cases, there's nothing they can do. But if you think that the first response of a cop if you tell him you were just assaulted on the street is to ignore you and not ask you which way the guy went, you are a complete and utter tool.
Bullshit. The vast majority of cops get into the line of work because they want to help people. If you believe that a cop's first response is to start suspecting YOU when you report a crime against you to them, you are incredibly naive and cynical. Some cops are assholes to the average person, sure. But Most of the cops I have dealt with are entirely reasonable in situations when you are reporting a crime against them.
This is utterly stupid and I'm sick of it.
The facts are completely against this sort of idiocy.
Day after day, year after year, people all around the country are victims of crimes by thugs. People's shit gets stolen. People are mugged. People are robbed. People are raped. People are assaulted.
And the FACTS are that in the vast majority of those cases, the average person will call 911, and the cops will come, and people will describe what happened, and the cops will do their best to HELP THEM OUT. They will try to track down the accused. They will ask reasonable questions about which way the assailants went, or what items were stolen. They will NOT start suspecting the person who reports the crime and talks to them like a reasonable person, which is what you morons seem to think cops have an overwhelming tendency to do in this alternate warped reality world you live in.
Do some cops abuse the system? Yes. Are some cops bad apples to whom you should never talk to under any circumstances? There are some, sure...but every time I come on slashdot, I see morons yelling about how bad the police, as an institution, are. Never talk to cops my ASS. My stuff got stolen from a club recently, and the club has video of who did it. I know for a fact the cops are currently trying to track the person down. Should I be a dumbass and say, "Oh well, all cops are bad, might as well live with the fact that hundreds of dollars in property of mine was stolen. I shouldn't report it because NEVER TALK TO COPS."
Bullshit.
What you people MEAN to say is "Don't talk to cops if they suspect you of something." That is the real, underlying meaning behind most of what the posters on here say, although they won't admit it.
The reality is, in the real world, when a serious violent crime happens to you or someone you love, you have TWO choices.
A) Tell the cops
B) Try to take revenge yourself. And that is NOT the way to live in a civilized society.
Pedantic. Not pendantic.
Pedant. Quiet.
This book needs to be made into a movie posthaste.
The problem with this is that it undermines the community aspect of games. SimCity 4 has 10 years worth of community-built content, all built for free. It's amazing, truly.
But SimCity 5 most likely will not have this sort of thing, seeing as how you must be online the entire time. What developer wants to make the Empire State Building with their own spare time if EA is going to put it on their store and sell it as a micro-transaction?
You can dodge a tree.
The first time I went to England, and got on the Underground, the tube, I noticed a faint, but pervasive, smell of body odor. It was not overwhelming, mind you, but it was there.
Now, either
A: Those who manage the tube don't disinfect or cycle the air in the trains often, or
B: British people don't wash as much.
It wasn't a big deal, but it was certainly there. This was the case every time I rode the underground for the week I was there, and by the end I had just gotten used to it and didn't notice it as much.
I also noticed this when I went to nightclubs in England...a very faint smell of B.O. Dunno why. Not being judgmental...but it was certainly there.
Beer!
The San Francisco Bay Area, a metropolis if there ever was one, has a ton of windfarms just west of the city on the Altamont Pass and thereabouts. One of the largest in the world, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Pass_Wind_Farm