Actually you bonehead , my machines are all Linux and FreeBSD and I happen to have worked as a sysadmin , network admin controlling cisco routers and a unix network programmer and I also happen to have a computer science degree so why don't you take your Standard Issue MS Bash (tm) and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
You're assuming people will run these for free when hundreds of thousands of people are using their bandwidth. They won't. While they remain effectively small , local connections with a few people on fine , but after that generosity of the people who run the node connected to the wider net will soon wear thin and they'll start istart barring certain connections or start charging. Theres no such thing as a free lunch my friend.
Ok , perhaps I'm being slightly sarcastic but IF they decide to make the phone into a handheld computer too then the opportunites to hack it could be quite large especially if it runs TCP/IP over the phone network. Ok , this can happen already with handheld computers but people who use them tend to be a bit more tech savvy and almost expect something nasty to happen. Joe and Flo Sixpack however won't have a clue and won't understand what it means to have their phone "owned" or "rooted". Imagine a virus running on the cellphone system.... nasty...
IP6 is too complex for general acceptance.
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Lets face it , unless you've got a Phd in networking chances are that some facet of IP4 routing , setup etc still confuses you. This goes for network admins too. Now multiply the complexity of ip4 by 10 and you get the nightmare that is IP6. I've tried to set up a home ip6 network that linked out to the internet but , oh my god , what kind of idiots invented this system?
I'm sorry , but even computer admins are human (yes its true) and we REALLy don't want to have to mess around with 128 bit meaningless entries in routing tables that were complex enough with 32 bits! Yes ip6 does some autocofiguration but someone has to set up the system so that some host does the autoconfig. Ever tried it? Don't , not unless you want to end up in a padded cell.
Even networking protocols should be designed for people to be able to use and I'm afraid with ip6 that simply hasn't happened. Back to the dsrawing board guys!
You can do anything you like with a language thats interpreted. You'd probably find that if Erlang was compiled (fully compiled, not just to run on a VM) those facilities would disappear because then the program would have to rely on the underlying OS just like any other binary.
Wow , you can reload modules while a program is *running*?! Man , why can't you do that in other programming languages... oh wait , you can , they're called.dll's in windows and shared objects (.so) in unix and you can write them in whatever language you like (usually C/C++). BFD.
I'd be interested to see you run an entire financial data center using CP/M. I know you were
being sarcastic but don't knock an OS just because its not "kool". It works and it works bloody well.
Maybe he just *wants* to defend his country which is what the armed services are for. You can argue whether given the nature of the potential conflict thats perhaps deluded or not , but thats the way it is with military types and I hold nothing against them for that attitude.
If you're quite happy with theft why not just shoplift the original CDs from the store? Or would you not do that because you operate under double standards? ie Electronic theft is ok , physical theft isnt?
High power was only about 50 watts but I was holding onto the antenna at the time and got a pretty hot hand PDQ. If the FCC does know about
it then they must have amazing intelligence
gathering since I don't live in the USA:o)
I mean , 1600km is a LONG distance to drive without somewhere to pull in an have some yummy burger. And just think how all that tossed out old food will help keep the penguins fed in the cold winters. And how about a few Holiday Inns while they're at it? I mean who *really* wants to sleep in a Snowcat with a dozen other smelly outward bound types if you can have the luxury of dralon sheets and cable TV?
Seriously , though , hasn't anyone noticed the sad irony of a road being drive through the last untainted wilderness on earth to serve scientists whose sole purpose is to measure the bad effects man is having on the enviroment? What the hell are they thinking??
Microwaves are usually treated as part of the RF spectrum. And yes , fighter radar can kill a bird if the microwaves fry it for long enough. Also I VERY much doubt that local radio station is broadcasting in the Ghz frequency range which is far higher than the FM or AM bands. If it is then it won't have many listeners. Long wave RF radiation used in normal broadcast radio is pretty much harmless. If it wasn't then we'd all have got cancer and died years ago though you can get RF burns if you're close enough to the aerial. I know this from personal experience with a high power CB rig.
A full screen logo might look nice , but as with windows , if something goes wrong during boot and the machine hangs you'll have no chance of finding out where since you won't be able to see where it got to in the boot process.
BT and OFTEL have had years to sort out the mess that is the UK phone system but they never bothered. "Oh , shall we have 2 digit area codes , no , lets make it 4 for the big cities , oh hold on , that little town will have 5 , but hey we don't have enough numbers in london now , lets divide its area code into 2 , 3 digit codes and have the local area codes 4 digits unlike everywhere else where they're 3 , err no , I mean 6 , err , except where there arn't any."
London has had *4* area code changes in the last 15 years and other cities and towns have suffered the same problem , apparently to create more numbers but these new numbers never appear. Local areas in london now begin with 7 or 8 and have done so for about 3 years now. Still no sign of those codes beginning 1-6 or 9. Where are they??
One of the reasons I use slackware is because I *like* the BSD style init scripts. the SysV init system is very logical I admit but its also long winded and it can be a pain in the arse to track down problems. And if you want a kernel with a compiled boot logo just recompile your kernel to enable framebuffers and you get it for free. Whats the big deal?
Here in the UK the FM is a bit of a joke. Just like you in the US have clearchannel ruling the waves we have a number of big corporations (Capital , Chrysalis) doing the exact same thing. Every local FM station now sounds like 101 others except for maybe a local breakfast show but. AM is slightly better but only because thats where all the piss poor community/religious stations live but even here the Mouldy Oldie 60s stations are all the one station broadcasting through multiple transmitters with different jingles, stabs and ads. Pirate radio though (especially in london) has taken off. At the last count London had MORE THAN 80 FM pirates. Why? Because the commercial stations don't play what people want and despite risking a large fine and up to 2 years in jail people still run these stations because others listen. Ok , a lot of the DJs frankly sound retarded and the music can be utter crap but it still amazes me that the commercial stations and the BBC take no notice of what is going on.
Oh get a bloody clue. If you have a channel sending 64Kbit of data then it'll use >= 64Khz of
bandwidth. How many of those channels do you think
you can fit on the VLF waveband which ends at
100Khz?? And who says most of the VLF band is empty , a lot of it is used for time signals, navigation bouys , military comms and so on. The
reason these wavelengths arn't used for high speed
comms is because ITS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!
When you've gone and read a decent communications
physics book get back to me.
Umm , just how do you expect to get megabit per second bit rates on VLF which has an EM frequency
measured in tens of Khz? I can't believe any real radio ham wouldn't know about fundamental physics such as this. I smell BS.
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Yeah , that'll really fool the spammers who suscribe to the newsgroups on a day to day basis.
Install slackware and try apt-get and see where it gets you.
Actually you bonehead , my machines are all Linux and FreeBSD and I happen to have worked as a sysadmin , network admin controlling cisco routers and a unix network programmer and I also happen to have a computer science degree so why don't you take your Standard Issue MS Bash (tm) and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
You're assuming people will run these for free when hundreds of thousands of people are using their bandwidth. They won't. While they remain effectively small , local connections with a few people on fine , but after that generosity of the people who run the node connected to the wider net will soon wear thin and they'll start istart barring certain connections or start charging. Theres no such thing as a free lunch my friend.
Ok , perhaps I'm being slightly sarcastic but IF they decide to make the phone into a handheld computer too then the opportunites to hack it could be quite large especially if it runs TCP/IP over the phone network. Ok , this can happen already with handheld computers but people who use them tend to be a bit more tech savvy and almost expect something nasty to happen. Joe and Flo Sixpack however won't have a clue and won't understand what it means to have their phone "owned" or "rooted". Imagine a virus running on the cellphone system.... nasty...
Lets face it , unless you've got a Phd in networking chances are that some facet of IP4 routing , setup etc still confuses you. This goes for network admins too. Now multiply the complexity of ip4 by 10 and you get the nightmare that is IP6. I've tried to set up a home ip6 network that linked out to the internet but , oh my god , what kind of idiots invented this system? I'm sorry , but even computer admins are human (yes its true) and we REALLy don't want to have to mess around with 128 bit meaningless entries in routing tables that were complex enough with 32 bits! Yes ip6 does some autocofiguration but someone has to set up the system so that some host does the autoconfig. Ever tried it? Don't , not unless you want to end up in a padded cell. Even networking protocols should be designed for people to be able to use and I'm afraid with ip6 that simply hasn't happened. Back to the dsrawing board guys!
ISPs already control the nodes. Unless you know some other way of connmecting your home PC to the net? If so please let us all know.
You can do anything you like with a language thats interpreted. You'd probably find that if Erlang was compiled (fully compiled, not just to run on a VM) those facilities would disappear because then the program would have to rely on the underlying OS just like any other binary.
Wow , you can reload modules while a program is *running*?! Man , why can't you do that in other programming languages ... oh wait , you can , they're called .dll's in windows and shared objects (.so) in unix and you can write them in whatever language you like (usually C/C++). BFD.
I'd be interested to see you run an entire financial data center using CP/M. I know you were being sarcastic but don't knock an OS just because its not "kool". It works and it works bloody well.
Lets see how well your 733T PDA works in a space enviroment after its been hit with a few cosmic rays. Idiot.
Maybe he just *wants* to defend his country which is what the armed services are for. You can argue whether given the nature of the potential conflict thats perhaps deluded or not , but thats the way it is with military types and I hold nothing against them for that attitude.
If you're quite happy with theft why not just shoplift the original CDs from the store? Or would you not do that because you operate under double standards? ie Electronic theft is ok , physical theft isnt?
High power was only about 50 watts but I was holding onto the antenna at the time and got a pretty hot hand PDQ. If the FCC does know about it then they must have amazing intelligence gathering since I don't live in the USA :o)
I mean , 1600km is a LONG distance to drive without somewhere to pull in an have some yummy burger. And just think how all that tossed out old food will help keep the penguins fed in the cold winters. And how about a few Holiday Inns while they're at it? I mean who *really* wants to sleep in a Snowcat with a dozen other smelly outward bound types if you can have the luxury of dralon sheets and cable TV? Seriously , though , hasn't anyone noticed the sad irony of a road being drive through the last untainted wilderness on earth to serve scientists whose sole purpose is to measure the bad effects man is having on the enviroment? What the hell are they thinking??
Microwaves are usually treated as part of the RF spectrum. And yes , fighter radar can kill a bird if the microwaves fry it for long enough. Also I VERY much doubt that local radio station is broadcasting in the Ghz frequency range which is far higher than the FM or AM bands. If it is then it won't have many listeners. Long wave RF radiation used in normal broadcast radio is pretty much harmless. If it wasn't then we'd all have got cancer and died years ago though you can get RF burns if you're close enough to the aerial. I know this from personal experience with a high power CB rig.
A full screen logo might look nice , but as with windows , if something goes wrong during boot and the machine hangs you'll have no chance of finding out where since you won't be able to see where it got to in the boot process.
BT and OFTEL have had years to sort out the mess that is the UK phone system but they never bothered. "Oh , shall we have 2 digit area codes , no , lets make it 4 for the big cities , oh hold on , that little town will have 5 , but hey we don't have enough numbers in london now , lets divide its area code into 2 , 3 digit codes and have the local area codes 4 digits unlike everywhere else where they're 3 , err no , I mean 6 , err , except where there arn't any." London has had *4* area code changes in the last 15 years and other cities and towns have suffered the same problem , apparently to create more numbers but these new numbers never appear. Local areas in london now begin with 7 or 8 and have done so for about 3 years now. Still no sign of those codes beginning 1-6 or 9. Where are they??
One of the reasons I use slackware is because I *like* the BSD style init scripts. the SysV init system is very logical I admit but its also long winded and it can be a pain in the arse to track down problems. And if you want a kernel with a compiled boot logo just recompile your kernel to enable framebuffers and you get it for free. Whats the big deal?
Here in the UK the FM is a bit of a joke. Just like you in the US have clearchannel ruling the waves we have a number of big corporations (Capital , Chrysalis) doing the exact same thing. Every local FM station now sounds like 101 others except for maybe a local breakfast show but. AM is slightly better but only because thats where all the piss poor community/religious stations live but even here the Mouldy Oldie 60s stations are all the one station broadcasting through multiple transmitters with different jingles, stabs and ads. Pirate radio though (especially in london) has taken off. At the last count London had MORE THAN 80 FM pirates. Why? Because the commercial stations don't play what people want and despite risking a large fine and up to 2 years in jail people still run these stations because others listen. Ok , a lot of the DJs frankly sound retarded and the music can be utter crap but it still amazes me that the commercial stations and the BBC take no notice of what is going on.
Probably cos the moderators were as dumb as you.
Oh get a bloody clue. If you have a channel sending 64Kbit of data then it'll use >= 64Khz of bandwidth. How many of those channels do you think you can fit on the VLF waveband which ends at 100Khz?? And who says most of the VLF band is empty , a lot of it is used for time signals, navigation bouys , military comms and so on. The reason these wavelengths arn't used for high speed comms is because ITS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE! When you've gone and read a decent communications physics book get back to me.
Well then how do you expect 802.11b to work then? Or do you think the standard will work at 20kbs?
Umm , just how do you expect to get megabit per second bit rates on VLF which has an EM frequency measured in tens of Khz? I can't believe any real radio ham wouldn't know about fundamental physics such as this. I smell BS.
It was a joke you idiot. See if you can CQ a sense of humour.