We all have our points of view, but ultimately part of the price you pay for living in a democracy is sometimes having to put up with what you consider dumb decisions made by governments and the courts and other people for voting for idiots. You can't pick and choose which laws or warrants you obey - that way lies anarchy.
So if they want to chuck their toys out their pram then let them. There are plenty of other people who would like their jobs.
"nd it might wind up that the backdoor for China might just be in US phones."
I'd be surprised if China hasn't put some backdoors in all the processors and DSPs it manufactures. I doubt many companies take a sample of what they ordered and put it in an electron microscope to check there's no extra circuitry on the die.
Very little is secure to the author of the firmware who is also the designer of the hardware if that firmware and hardware can be usurped by said author.
This argument is nothing to do with security or frankly , the "rights" of the public. This is a battle between on one hand a not altogether trustworthy government organisation that wants access to any data it desires and on the other a not altogether trustworthy global corp who is worried about the affect on its share price but pretends its the little guy fighting for justice against The Man.
TBH this is one battle where neither of the plaintiffs is worth rooting for and if you want real security just use PGP or similar.
"If you make the frame look like random noise then it just looks like clutter. VERY hard to spot."
It only has to be slightly above the noise floor to be triangulated. The actual modulation is more or less irrelevant so long as the signal last long enough to pinpoint it.
"ou know what? It IS damn useful to be able to look at an app on my phone while I'm out of the house, and see whether or not the doors are locked, or the outside motion-sensor lights are on"
How about you make sure they are before you leave? Just a thought.
"or whether there's suddenly water standing on the basement floor"
Paranoia? Much? And what if there is - what you doing to do , rush back from work or fly back from holiday to sort it out? Too late by then anyway, damage is done.
"or to see which cars are at home in the driveway."
Don't you even know who lives at your house?
You sound like the sort of person who shouldn't be let out unaccompanied frankly.
That only exists in the masturbatory fantasies of various techno-evangelist startups and large corps trying to cash in on a fad. In the real world I doubt many people want their white goods networked, or their home heating or their kettle or clothes or any of 101 other everyday objects that function perfectly well standalone and have no reason to be networked or even computerised. But where there's a sucker there's money to be made and the techno sharks are circling.
"So, fork out the money to get supported software or STFU and start coding."
And people wonder why OSS supporters have a bad name in some quarters. Jesus H....
Newflash - I've coded free software. When people sent me emails to tell me there was a bug I didn't tell them to send me the fix themselves or STFU. Sort out your attitude boy.
Ah , the old "Only kernel developers can complain about an issue, users should shut up and say nothing" school of thought. I wondered how long it would be before some mouth breathing window licker said it. Congratulations, you are that idiot.
Eventually. But C has been going for over 40 years and counting and C++ 30 so I'm not going to start worrying about it just yet. I doubt many people will even remember todays flavour of the month Cloud languages in 10 years time, never mind 30 or 40. Its 4GL all over again. Anyone remember Powerbuilder? That was "where its at man" back in the 90s for rapid desktop dev. That turned out well. MS Silverlight? etc.
Depending on which bit of it you're in depends on how in demand you currently are. All the Kool Kids doing the latest new shiny will probably have job offers being thrown at them. But in 5-10 years time their skills will be borderline irrelevant (Ruby On Rails anyone?) so its retrain time again. And again. And again.
Meanwhile those of us plodding along doing old style boring backend coding in (supposedly according to the Kool Kids) grandpa languages like C/C++/Java or even COBOL might not have recruiters kicking down the door to get us to an interview but we're unlikely to be out of work for the forseable future or need retraining other than to learn some new library now and then so long as our skills are good to start with.
The BBC were constantly having a sly pop at the govenrment about funding this and funding that. The gov eventually got fed up with it and essentially said "Ok then, you do it if you think you can do better!" and gave them responsibility for funding pensioners.
But remember , the BBC don't *have* to do it, its optional. They can tell the pensioners to get lost and spend the money elsewhere - the ball is in their court. So lets see what those bleeing heart lefties do now they have to put their money where their oversized mouths are and actually make a difficult feckin decision instead of bad mouthing those who do.
Quite. The people who advocate a life of leisure clearly have little to no understanding of human nature. There's a reason even vastly rich people like Gates and Ellison still do some form of work even though they never need lift a finger again for the rest of their lives.
... that is so complex that a simple messaging app can't support older versions of an OS? All it does is send text and picture data which AFAIK was supported by phones 10 years ago before smart phones even came on the market. So WTF excuse can they come up with that sounds genuine?
"they don't offer the kind of capabilities we need to expand our app's features in the future."
Oh riiiight. So they can't be bothered to continue current support even though it means NO EFFORT on their part. They just want everyone to see the New Shiny when it comes out. Idiots.
Robot programming? Until they can program themselves of course.
Of course once enough blue & white collar people are put out of work by automation and a threshold is crossed whereby massive social unrest ensues then the standard corporate goal of reducing costs no matter what will have to be re-evaluated. Either voluntarily or by force.
Hmm, now why are lasers being suggested in the first place. Is it because the amount of fuel required to get to that speed (and hence the same amount required to slow down from it) is infeasible? Yeah. maybe thats it A/C. Course, you'd have known that if you had a single working braincell.
Sure, they might take you there, but you'll only be passing by , because unless someone has built another laser array ON mars you won't be stopping until you hit something. Which could be the same day or a billion years later as the dried out dust that used to be your corpse slowly orbits the galaxy.
Sadlhy a lot of people in the 1st world really have no idea what real poverty is and genuinely think that internet access is as important as food, water and sanitation. Their idea of hardship is not being able to tweet for a day.
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Er yes, thats why I said let them quit. Do try and keep up.
You might admire them, others mileage may vary. Personally I wouldn't piss on Snowdon if he was on fire.
We all have our points of view, but ultimately part of the price you pay for living in a democracy is sometimes having to put up with what you consider dumb decisions made by governments and the courts and other people for voting for idiots. You can't pick and choose which laws or warrants you obey - that way lies anarchy.
So if they want to chuck their toys out their pram then let them. There are plenty of other people who would like their jobs.
Well in a few months you'll have them all under President Trump. Enjoy.
"nd it might wind up that the backdoor for China might just be in US phones."
I'd be surprised if China hasn't put some backdoors in all the processors and DSPs it manufactures. I doubt many companies take a sample of what they ordered and put it in an electron microscope to check there's no extra circuitry on the die.
" If Apple are shown to be insecure,"
Very little is secure to the author of the firmware who is also the designer of the hardware if that firmware and hardware can be usurped by said author.
This argument is nothing to do with security or frankly , the "rights" of the public. This is a battle between on one hand a not altogether trustworthy government organisation that wants access to any data it desires and on the other a not altogether trustworthy global corp who is worried about the affect on its share price but pretends its the little guy fighting for justice against The Man.
TBH this is one battle where neither of the plaintiffs is worth rooting for and if you want real security just use PGP or similar.
"If you make the frame look like random noise then it just looks like clutter. VERY hard to spot."
It only has to be slightly above the noise floor to be triangulated. The actual modulation is more or less irrelevant so long as the signal last long enough to pinpoint it.
Oh yeah, its an experience all right. Possibly not quite the one they had in mind though.
"ou know what? It IS damn useful to be able to look at an app on my phone while I'm out of the house, and see whether or not the doors are locked, or the outside motion-sensor lights are on"
How about you make sure they are before you leave? Just a thought.
"or whether there's suddenly water standing on the basement floor"
Paranoia? Much? And what if there is - what you doing to do , rush back from work or fly back from holiday to sort it out? Too late by then anyway, damage is done.
"or to see which cars are at home in the driveway."
Don't you even know who lives at your house?
You sound like the sort of person who shouldn't be let out unaccompanied frankly.
That only exists in the masturbatory fantasies of various techno-evangelist startups and large corps trying to cash in on a fad. In the real world I doubt many people want their white goods networked, or their home heating or their kettle or clothes or any of 101 other everyday objects that function perfectly well standalone and have no reason to be networked or even computerised. But where there's a sucker there's money to be made and the techno sharks are circling.
"So, fork out the money to get supported software or STFU and start coding."
And people wonder why OSS supporters have a bad name in some quarters. Jesus H....
Newflash - I've coded free software. When people sent me emails to tell me there was a bug I didn't tell them to send me the fix themselves or STFU. Sort out your attitude boy.
Ah , the old "Only kernel developers can complain about an issue, users should shut up and say nothing" school of thought. I wondered how long it would be before some mouth breathing window licker said it. Congratulations, you are that idiot.
"People in the US are more likely to have the courtesy of not suiciding at all."
Wrong, they just east 4000 calories of cholesterol laden processed junk a day instead. Its suicide , just not so violent.
"But they will become obsolete. "
Eventually. But C has been going for over 40 years and counting and C++ 30 so I'm not going to start worrying about it just yet. I doubt many people will even remember todays flavour of the month Cloud languages in 10 years time, never mind 30 or 40. Its 4GL all over again. Anyone remember Powerbuilder? That was "where its at man" back in the 90s for rapid desktop dev. That turned out well. MS Silverlight? etc.
Depending on which bit of it you're in depends on how in demand you currently are. All the Kool Kids doing the latest new shiny will probably have job offers being thrown at them. But in 5-10 years time their skills will be borderline irrelevant (Ruby On Rails anyone?) so its retrain time again. And again. And again.
Meanwhile those of us plodding along doing old style boring backend coding in (supposedly according to the Kool Kids) grandpa languages like C/C++/Java or even COBOL might not have recruiters kicking down the door to get us to an interview but we're unlikely to be out of work for the forseable future or need retraining other than to learn some new library now and then so long as our skills are good to start with.
The BBC were constantly having a sly pop at the govenrment about funding this and funding that. The gov eventually got fed up with it and essentially said "Ok then, you do it if you think you can do better!" and gave them responsibility for funding pensioners.
But remember , the BBC don't *have* to do it, its optional. They can tell the pensioners to get lost and spend the money elsewhere - the ball is in their court. So lets see what those bleeing heart lefties do now they have to put their money where their oversized mouths are and actually make a difficult feckin decision instead of bad mouthing those who do.
Making a big deal about his "rights" while completely missing the bigger picture.
Quite. The people who advocate a life of leisure clearly have little to no understanding of human nature. There's a reason even vastly rich people like Gates and Ellison still do some form of work even though they never need lift a finger again for the rest of their lives.
... that is so complex that a simple messaging app can't support older versions of an OS? All it does is send text and picture data which AFAIK was supported by phones 10 years ago before smart phones even came on the market. So WTF excuse can they come up with that sounds genuine?
"they don't offer the kind of capabilities we need to expand our app's features in the future."
Oh riiiight. So they can't be bothered to continue current support even though it means NO EFFORT on their part. They just want everyone to see the New Shiny when it comes out. Idiots.
"What jobs are safest?"
Robot programming? Until they can program themselves of course.
Of course once enough blue & white collar people are put out of work by automation and a threshold is crossed whereby massive social unrest ensues then the standard corporate goal of reducing costs no matter what will have to be re-evaluated. Either voluntarily or by force.
The internet can prevent droughts,famines and the spread of disease can it? Do tell us more...
If you really believe that then need to get out there and travel a bit instead of getting all your information about the world online.
"Per dollar invested, internet access does more to alleviate poverty "
An economists answer. Sadly having net access does nothing for an empty stomach or a baby dying of disease.
Hmm, now why are lasers being suggested in the first place. Is it because the amount of fuel required to get to that speed (and hence the same amount required to slow down from it) is infeasible? Yeah. maybe thats it A/C. Course, you'd have known that if you had a single working braincell.
"Lasers might take you to Mars some day."
Sure, they might take you there, but you'll only be passing by , because unless someone has built another laser array ON mars you won't be stopping until you hit something. Which could be the same day or a billion years later as the dried out dust that used to be your corpse slowly orbits the galaxy.
Sadlhy a lot of people in the 1st world really have no idea what real poverty is and genuinely think that internet access is as important as food, water and sanitation. Their idea of hardship is not being able to tweet for a day.