"Older (meaning non-Nspire) can be programmed in C and assembly, the others can be jailbroken to allow it"
I meant without having to fuck around with a PC to do it. A machine that can't be properly programmed without using another device to do it is not properly programmable as far as a casual user is concerned.
Either bring out a calculator that is essentially a programmable scientific computer with a PROPER programming language, (not some hobbled joke that would have embarrassed an 8 bit home computer) and a PROPER display , or just call it a day , accept smartphones can do everything a graphic calc can do except better and just stick to producing cheap school calculators that can do logs, trig and notalot else. TI sort of tried with the TI-92 about 10 years ago but the display was a joke and it was dog slow. Oh , and cost a small fortune.
"Wahhh waahhhh. You got called out on your bullcrap,"
Oh dear, are we're really down to the teenage debating level already? Do yourself a favour and grow up. And I guess you can't read either since all you did was spout rubbish about what you thought I was implying.
"{Linux distro} is vastly more popular than all the free BSDs combined, and its a damn good system,"
Care to point out where I said otherwise? No, did't think so.
"arn't endless majorly-incompatable variants of it."
Distros tend to have incomtabilities with each other and even with previous version of the same distro. True or false? Its a simple answer, see if you can manage it though if you really want to come out with another juvenile attempt at diverting attention feel free. As you said, its only the 2 of us reading this now so you're not fooling anyone other than perhaps yourself.
"Don't try that smartass, clever, internet-arguing shit with me."
I'm so sorry if you're incapable of coming up with a suitable response. I'll write it all in single syllable words in capitals just for you next time so you have a better chance.
"Don't try to feign being offended that I'm misrepresenting you. I'm not. Don't try that shit on, nobody else is reading this anymore except you and me, and we both know full well what the deal is."
Only in your mind sonny. All I implied was thats its better to have a single platform than lots of slightly different ones. Thats not the same as saying any one distribution is shit. Perhaps that concept is too complex for you to grok, but unfortunately it seems you're just another knee jerk fanboi who can't handle even the slightest debate about whatever it is that you've nailed your ego and self worth too. You're all the same type of psychotic nutjobs.
"Everyone in Sweden and all of Northern Europe does it this way"
If by northern europe you don't include the UK, ireland or france then sure. If you mean just scandinavia then maybe , but scandinavia != the world and a lot of people in the rest of the world (myself included) find cheques quick and simple. I've done electronic payments for many things including my house and car and they are somewhat more hassle than just writing a cheque and handing it over.
"With a mobile phone and the bank's App, a transfer takes less than 1 minute and is complete... try doing that with a check/cheque"
I can write a cheque in seconds. How long it takes for the workman to cash it is not my concern. And why the hell should I have to own a fucking smartphone to be able to pay someone??
"it's worse than cash"
Cash is anonymous. Rather useful if you want to avoid tax. And yes I have used it for that and no I don't give a damn if you disapprove so save your breath.
"Hmm, why would electronic banking be a PITA when paying for a builder?"
Hmm , let me think. Because he doesn't have a computer or card reader on site and he doesn't do electronic banking anyway.
"I use online banking for person-to-person transfers (even the very small amounts) "
Good for you. But not everyone loves technology so much that they find farting about with electronic payment simpler than spending 30 seconds writing a cheque.
"No personal checks in Sweden, so all person-to-person transfers are done in cash"
Did they get rid of cheques or did they never have them? I always thought sweden was an advanced country , but it doesn't sound like it. Personal cheques are damn useful in situations where electronic banking can be a PITA and cash isn't feasible - eg paying a builder.
"The FUD is behaving as if FreeBSD is somehow better than {entire set of Linux distros}."
I never said it was. Why don't you don't take your own advice and YOU try reading what *I* wrote.
Since when does saying that FreeBSD is a good system mean that I'm having a pop at linux? And there ARE lots of slightly incompatable distributions of linux whether you like it or not. So I don't see what your issue is.
FUD is it? Tell me why then virtually every distro needs its own specific package for certain software? Wouldn't be anything to do with them all having different library versions would it? No , couldn't possibly be that....
FreeBSD might not be anywhere near as popular as linux but its a damn good system, and whats more there arn't endless ever-so-slightly incompatable distributions of it. Ok, its never going to threaten Linux but its good to have a proper alternative free Unix system available that is actually interested in its end users and isn't just a pet project of the devs (unlike certain other BSDs I could mention).
Which has turned into a complete dogs dinner in the last couple of decades first with the FPU stack based instructions being glued to a register based architecture then all the endless psuedo parallel long word instruction sets intel have thrown at their cpus like confetti. Its long been said that compilers make a better job of generating assembler than a human, but these days I doubt if a human could even grok the entire x86 instruction set to start with. I gave up long ago.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Its a nice often quoted soundbite from Franklin, but it doesn't make him right. And as has been said, we already gave up liberty in certain forms long ago. In fact any social animal does - there has never been any such thing as complete do-as-you-please liberty anywhere anytime except in the minds of deluded anarchists.
And the fisker has a VERY large battery. You'd hope for some short protection but obviously they didn't design for it being submerged. I'd be interested to know what happens if a Prius is submerged.
There are orders of magnitude more medical fsck ups caused by humans making a mistake than by medical devices making a mistake. If I had to choose between a machine giving me a correct dose or a overworked doctor who's been on call for 24 hours with hardly any sleep, well , its not going to be the doctor.
"Renaming variables, fields, and functions/methods is a major pain in the butt in any language if you have to do it manually. Having tools to do this instantly is a major reason for using IDEs and the like."
You mean like "%s/old name/new name/g" that the vi editor has had since the 80s? Perhaps you should try using a programmers editor. You might be surprised at just how little extra an IDE gives you.
"Having a tool that allows you to navigate efficiently in the code improves performance of the programmer in any case."
2 or more xterms and "grep". I find that combination far more efficient than some bloatware IDE. Admittedly I'm a C++ coder, not java, but I've used some IDEs and found them wanting. They want to be an entire coding "enviroment". Thanks , but I already have one - its called the operating system. However YMMV.
"I don't care about super awesome triangle counts and NOW WITH EVEN MORE PIXEL SHADERS!!! Wooh, who gives a fuck?! "
Err, people who want decent graphics? Sure , gameplay is important, but there are many 1990s DOS games with damn good gameplay. Why not go invest in a 15 year old PC for $2 and install every game from that era you can find for peanuts if you don't give a damn about the visuals?
Consoles are supposed to showcase cutting edge graphics, not simply play catch up to competitors products that are already long in the tooth. As for the controller? Its a gimmick. If I want hand held gaming I'll use a smartphone, and if I want proper HD gaming I have it on a TV/monitor thanks. Nintendo say its for 2 to play , yeah right, I'm sure one person suffering a small handheld screen is SOOOoo much better than simply split screening the TV. Not.
A system of realtime transmission of embedded digital data with live updates and multicolour graphics on a TV before most home computers with the computer actually built into the TV (not a set top box!) was pretty much bleeding edge for the time. Its was truly a quantum leap in home technology when up until that point when most people in the UK still didn't even have colour TV sets.
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"Older (meaning non-Nspire) can be programmed in C and assembly, the others can be jailbroken to allow it"
I meant without having to fuck around with a PC to do it. A machine that can't be properly programmed without using another device to do it is not properly programmable as far as a casual user is concerned.
Either bring out a calculator that is essentially a programmable scientific computer with a PROPER programming language, (not some hobbled joke that would have embarrassed an 8 bit home computer) and a PROPER display , or just call it a day , accept smartphones can do everything a graphic calc can do except better and just stick to producing cheap school calculators that can do logs, trig and notalot else. TI sort of tried with the TI-92 about 10 years ago but the display was a joke and it was dog slow. Oh , and cost a small fortune.
"I'll call you The Fudmeister from now on."
*guffaw* Did you think that up all by yourself or did your little sister help you?
"FreeBSD tends to have incomtabilities with other BSDs and even with previous version of FreeBSD. True or false? "
Answering a question with a question is the desperate last resort for the defeated. Thanks for playing.
"Wahhh waahhhh. You got called out on your bullcrap,"
Oh dear, are we're really down to the teenage debating level already? Do yourself a favour and grow up. And I guess you can't read either since all you did was spout rubbish about what you thought I was implying.
"{Linux distro} is vastly more popular than all the free BSDs combined, and its a damn good system,"
Care to point out where I said otherwise? No, did't think so.
"arn't endless majorly-incompatable variants of it."
Distros tend to have incomtabilities with each other and even with previous version of the same distro. True or false? Its a simple answer, see if you can manage it though if you really want to come out with another juvenile attempt at diverting attention feel free. As you said, its only the 2 of us reading this now so you're not fooling anyone other than perhaps yourself.
"Don't try that smartass, clever, internet-arguing shit with me."
I'm so sorry if you're incapable of coming up with a suitable response. I'll write it all in single syllable words in capitals just for you next time so you have a better chance.
"Don't try to feign being offended that I'm misrepresenting you. I'm not. Don't try that shit on, nobody else is reading this anymore except you and me, and we both know full well what the deal is."
Only in your mind sonny. All I implied was thats its better to have a single platform than lots of slightly different ones. Thats not the same as saying any one distribution is shit. Perhaps that concept is too complex for you to grok, but unfortunately it seems you're just another knee jerk fanboi who can't handle even the slightest debate about whatever it is that you've nailed your ego and self worth too. You're all the same type of psychotic nutjobs.
Wow, a real +5 insightful response there mate. Got no answers then?
And no, I'm not whoever you seem to think I am.
"I changed my PIN to be 6 digits on some test gear and ended up having to get a new bank card because the UK ATM network is hard coded to 4 digits."
Why couldn't you use the test gear to change it back to 4 digits , or once its set to 6 digits is it fixed at that and can't be reverted?
"Everyone in Sweden and all of Northern Europe does it this way"
If by northern europe you don't include the UK, ireland or france then sure. If you mean just scandinavia then maybe , but scandinavia != the world and a lot of people in the rest of the world (myself included) find cheques quick and simple. I've done electronic payments for many things including my house and car and they are somewhat more hassle than just writing a cheque and handing it over.
"With a mobile phone and the bank's App, a transfer takes less than 1 minute and is complete ... try doing that with a check/cheque"
I can write a cheque in seconds. How long it takes for the workman to cash it is not my concern. And why the hell should I have to own a fucking smartphone to be able to pay someone??
"it's worse than cash"
Cash is anonymous. Rather useful if you want to avoid tax. And yes I have used it for that and no I don't give a damn if you disapprove so save your breath.
"he gives you an invoice with his/her banking info and you just transfer it. He'll just email/SMS you the invoice. Pretty simple. "
Considerably less simple than just handing him a cheque on the day he finishes.
"Hmm, why would electronic banking be a PITA when paying for a builder?"
Hmm , let me think. Because he doesn't have a computer or card reader on site and he doesn't do electronic banking anyway.
"I use online banking for person-to-person transfers (even the very small amounts) "
Good for you. But not everyone loves technology so much that they find farting about with electronic payment simpler than spending 30 seconds writing a cheque.
"No personal checks in Sweden, so all person-to-person transfers are done in cash"
Did they get rid of cheques or did they never have them? I always thought sweden was an advanced country , but it doesn't sound like it. Personal cheques are damn useful in situations where electronic banking can be a PITA and cash isn't feasible - eg paying a builder.
"The FUD is behaving as if FreeBSD is somehow better than {entire set of Linux distros}."
I never said it was. Why don't you don't take your own advice and YOU try reading what *I* wrote.
Since when does saying that FreeBSD is a good system mean that I'm having a pop at linux? And there ARE lots of slightly incompatable distributions of linux whether you like it or not. So I don't see what your issue is.
"Your FUD about distros "
FUD is it? Tell me why then virtually every distro needs its own specific package for certain software? Wouldn't be anything to do with them all having different library versions would it? No , couldn't possibly be that....
FreeBSD might not be anywhere near as popular as linux but its a damn good system, and whats more there arn't endless ever-so-slightly incompatable distributions of it. Ok, its never going to threaten Linux but its good to have a proper alternative free Unix system available that is actually interested in its end users and isn't just a pet project of the devs (unlike certain other BSDs I could mention).
Which has turned into a complete dogs dinner in the last couple of decades first with the FPU stack based instructions being glued to a register based architecture then all the endless psuedo parallel long word instruction sets intel have thrown at their cpus like confetti. Its long been said that compilers make a better job of generating assembler than a human, but these days I doubt if a human could even grok the entire x86 instruction set to start with. I gave up long ago.
Sorry , but yes.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Its a nice often quoted soundbite from Franklin, but it doesn't make him right. And as has been said, we already gave up liberty in certain forms long ago. In fact any social animal does - there has never been any such thing as complete do-as-you-please liberty anywhere anytime except in the minds of deluded anarchists.
And the fisker has a VERY large battery. You'd hope for some short protection but obviously they didn't design for it being submerged. I'd be interested to know what happens if a Prius is submerged.
There are orders of magnitude more medical fsck ups caused by humans making a mistake than by medical devices making a mistake. If I had to choose between a machine giving me a correct dose or a overworked doctor who's been on call for 24 hours with hardly any sleep, well , its not going to be the doctor.
Anyone who uses common names for different variables or variables and functions is an idiot. So its a moot point.
"Renaming variables, fields, and functions/methods is a major pain in the butt in any language if you have to do it manually. Having tools to do this instantly is a major reason for using IDEs and the like."
You mean like "%s/old name/new name/g" that the vi editor has had since the 80s? Perhaps you should try using a programmers editor. You might be surprised at just how little extra an IDE gives you.
"Having a tool that allows you to navigate efficiently in the code improves performance of the programmer in any case."
2 or more xterms and "grep". I find that combination far more efficient than some bloatware IDE. Admittedly I'm a C++ coder, not java, but I've used some IDEs and found them wanting. They want to be an entire coding "enviroment". Thanks , but I already have one - its called the operating system. However YMMV.
"I don't care about super awesome triangle counts and NOW WITH EVEN MORE PIXEL SHADERS!!! Wooh, who gives a fuck?! "
Err, people who want decent graphics? Sure , gameplay is important, but there are many 1990s DOS games with damn good gameplay. Why not go invest in a 15 year old PC for $2 and install every game from that era you can find for peanuts if you don't give a damn about the visuals?
Consoles are supposed to showcase cutting edge graphics, not simply play catch up to competitors products that are already long in the tooth. As for the controller? Its a gimmick. If I want hand held gaming I'll use a smartphone, and if I want proper HD gaming I have it on a TV/monitor thanks. Nintendo say its for 2 to play , yeah right, I'm sure one person suffering a small handheld screen is SOOOoo much better than simply split screening the TV. Not.
"Both Linux and windows servers I administrate involve (a) GUI management applications for the services/daemons "
You need to improve your unix CLI skills if you have to use a GUI to manage system daemons.
Wow, such an in depth insighful reply about the economic context. Did you think that up all by yourself or did your mum help you?
A system of realtime transmission of embedded digital data with live updates and multicolour graphics on a TV before most home computers with the computer actually built into the TV (not a set top box!) was pretty much bleeding edge for the time. Its was truly a quantum leap in home technology when up until that point when most people in the UK still didn't even have colour TV sets.