Probably explains why I never heard of it then...I last used screen in probably 2008 or 2009 when I would leave the console of a counterstrike or TF2 server in a screen session.
Was always a handy tool...I just haven't had reason to use it since about the last time it was updated.
Overall in the US, 10% is something like a hair under $150k per household. So it can really depend on your situation.
A single 25 year old earning 150k is probably feeling pretty good, even living somewhere like NYC.
But a household with two earners in their 40s and kids that makes 150k definitely counts as middle class. Certainly not on the low side of middle class (and in cheap areas, definitely doing pretty well), but its not like they are going to be overflowing with disposable income. Life isn't bad--which it shouldn't be for the middle class--but you aren't going to be retiring early and spending lots of time at that vacation home in the south of France.
His English comment doesn't even make sense. The kid wanted to switch to economics.
I know that there are some pretty lackluster econ programs out there (I have heard of some that will grant a degree in econ without requiring even single variable calculus), but I went to a school with a fairly rigorous econ program. I'm not going to say it was the most rigorous program in the school, but there were plenty of people who thought they would rather get better grades in an "easier" major than tough it out in econ once multivariable calculus and econometrics rolled around.
I'd still say that, in terms of general employability (without further education), a B econ grad is also better than an A english grad. Anyone looking to study english or history or similar, should honestly think about their choices. I don't think people shouldn't study them--but they need to seek some wisdom about their elective choices. Even if you are studying english, you should know some calculus, take some basic statistics, microeconomics and CS (intro-to-programming type stuff). You don't need an econ degree to go into the business world--and 95% of econ majors never use the upper-level coursework again--but having some evidence of qualitative skills on your resume is extremely important.
But you ignore financial aid (most people who have to borrow every cent will qualify for some at at least one school they apply to), term time employment, and summer jobs/internships.
If you absolutely can't get any financial aid (i.e. wealthy parents who won't pay for you but whose income prevents you from aid eligibility), then you are simply an idiot for not getting a job shelving books in the library and pursuing paying positions in the summers.
Term time employment is not hard to find (and in my experience, campus jobs tend to pay on the high side), and you can find something that is only 10-20 hours a week and won't interfere much with your studies. Also, half of the student jobs out there are the kind where you can study in your down time (the kids who check out books at the library or ring you up at the student coffee shop can spend half of their time doing their course reading). At $12 an hour (pretty common for student jobs, even without work-study), this can net you 6-7k each year. And of course you could always work more if you really needed to (and reduce living expenses below the "average" which includes the kids living off mom and dad).
Then, you should absolutely be working during the off periods. Not too hard to nab a retail job during winter break leading up to christmas (although not a ton of earnings from that either). But you should be working full time all summer, every summer. Even if you don't need the money, you should do this since it always seems like the kids who don't are the ones who have the hardest time finding jobs after graduation (no experience). Even if you can't beat the $12 an hour you had before, this should get you another 6k for the year. And after the first year of school, you get access to better programs, and internships from higher paying employers. Lots of places pay interns the same as 1st year employees...even in the middle of the crisis in the summer of 2008, lots of kids were getting an easy 15-18 an hour plus overtime. With a bit of work, its not that hard to clear 10k in a summer. Yeah--you don't get to go take that unpaid internship that the rich kids can afford, but it's ok--they are just being exploited anyways. You'll come out with experience, money, and maybe even a post-graduation job offer.
That pretty much covers all of your living expenses (and then some...considering you should probably be living a little sparser than the average student). Honestly, you could even still drop a grand in extra loan money on a cool spring break every year and it wouldn't really matter. You are still going to clock in at only mid 5-figure debt.
The people complaining in the media about 150k debt for 4 years of school are either lying, actually had post-graduate education, or made extremely poor and lazy decisions (and I count going to a $$$ private university as a poor decision if you have zero financial aid). Its not even easy to get 150k in loans. You can't get that much from federal loans...and private lenders aren't so favorable to slacker kids who can't even bother to earn a single dollar all 4 years.
Seems like it is pretty standard to fly economy. Even in the industries the parent poster listed, policies tend to be economy except for international flights and executives.
Thing is...if you fly often for work, you will reach status within a year and be getting upgraded on every flight. The monday-thursday consultants and other heavy business travelers are getting their upgrades for free...the fees are usually being billed to the client, and clients don't like to pay for first-class.
If you are telling truth (and not just parroting about a talking-point story as evidence the law sucks), you really should talk to an accountant.
What about incorporating in order to move that tax burden off of your books and onto that of your business? Should help your subsidy eligibility. I'm not an accountant (and can't speak to the intricacies of an LLC vs an S-Corp), but I know that a lot of self employed people who recently made the jump from sole proprietorship to incorporation and they all wish they had done it years ago.
That was pretty much my thought. There was a deadline, people are lazy and put off signing up until that deadline was looming over them (and were possibly reminded when trying to do their taxes that they need to enroll). The deadline was extended until April 15th...but it is near enough that you should see a big increase in signups.
They probably had a pretty good idea of how many people would be required to sign up, how many of those people would opt out, and how many people would switch over from something else. Using these numbers, they probably picked 7m people as a conservative estimate of how many people would sign up...and thus it was easy to hit it.
Making a big deal of this is as if it were front-page news that the number of people completing their tax returns skyrocketed between March 15th and April 15th...of course they do. Nobody calls it into question because everybody knows that you put stuff like that (especially if you owe money) as long as possible. The problem here might be that the people at places like Fox News have been on corporate payroll for so long (with health benefits), that they have no idea what is going through the minds of someone who has to actually signup on their own.
Still fundamentally different things. Dropbox is meant for continuous live access (and is actually a handy way to get some semblance of version control for word docs and other binary files that don't play well with VCSs). It is also meant for syncing across computers--which doesn't make sense at all if you are using it to back up system-specific information/configuration files/etc. It will protect the documents you store in it, but it makes disaster recovery a huge pain since you are starting from scratch (but hey, at least having your files is better than having nothing)
Backup systems are meant to never have to be accessed. Until you need them, in which case you want quick and easy access, and if you really care, you want more than just your pictures backed up so that you can get up and running quick (i.e. dropbox might be ok for some home user who only uses the computer for personal use and would otherwise have zero backups. It's not ok for someone who uses that computer for a living and needs to be able to get up and running again quickly in order to start making money again).
I don't think getting the license is particularily difficult in the US.
It can be very expensive and take time to get those hours...but a crazy person who wins the lottery (or an insurance settlement) wouldn't have much trouble making it into the air.
While the practice isn't so nice, it's not exactly walmart's fault that this is the best way to get cheap labor.
Tying benefits to employment is stupid (especially with how often people are changing jobs these days). If everybody bought health insurance on their own (or had it provided by the government), then walmart wouldn't see a cost savings by hiring 2 people to work 20-30 hours instead of one to work 40-60, in fact they would probably see a savings since training costs would be reduced, turnover might be reduced (people will stop ditching the PT job as soon as they find something FT), and you might end up with a more effective employee.
IIRC, this essentially came as an unintended consequence of some government wage controls during/following the war. Companies couldn't raise wages to attract talent, so they started offering non-wage benefits. Now it is standard for it to come from your employer, while people buying their own insurance get screwed by high prices. Hard to break free of that system though...everybody expects the benefit, and it costs the company less to provide the benefit than they would have to pay you extra to afford your own insurance. So skilled/in demand workers keep getting their benefits, while the easily replaceable laborers get 30 hour work weeks.
This is a better alternative than that money going to other causes.
I'd much rather have a bunch of people out there building a life sized Ark (and maybe even employing some skilled tradesmen) than for that same money being spent winning local elections for candidates that want to take evolution out of textbooks.
The local dealer chains in a lot of areas tend to be very successful.
This means they can make lots of local political campaign contributions (both to buy influence and to get themselves tickets to all of the fundraising galas where they can meet and great with the townsfolk). They also tend to be somewhat of a dynasty, having been started back in the golden age of automobiles and inherited by younger family members
Then, what do you do when you've got 2 kids, and your dealer brother's got 2 kids, and you don't have enough dealerships for them to all inherit? Why not send one of them into politics? It could be very beneficial to your business to have someone on the city counsel, and you've got the cash to finance the race. Maybe later they move on to the state senate.
To play devil's advocate--If I stole your phone...I'd probably want to wipe all of your crap off of it anyways. Flash a fresh OS on there and it is good as new.
Just like if I stole your laptop to use it myself, I would wipe the drive first (though many thieves are not so clever), or if I wanted to sell it, I would put a clean OS on it. Might be some valuable information stashed on your drive, but if I am a petty thief, I probably care more about the easy money of selling electronics vs the more complex prospect of figuring out how to profit off a stolen identity (much more difficult than cash).
A kill switch that bricked the phone (or made it unable to join a mobile network or fully boot until disabled) would kill the residual value of the phone. Sure, maybe you could harvest it for parts, but if the bootloader is locked and the OS is hosed, nobody is going to be using it as a phone again.
A lot of phone thefts in big cities like NYC/Chicago go like this:
Person is on the train, engrossed in their facebook news feed (and probably have their headphones on so as to be further zoned out). Train pulls into stop and doors open. Thief rips phone out of person's hand and dashes out the closing doors. By the time the victim or anyone nearby recognizes what just happened, the doors are closed and the train is pulling away (and to an outside observer on the platform, it just looked like a guy who forgot it was his stop and dashed to get off the train). Less pro thiefs may not have the timing down, but they can probably run fast enough to still avoid getting caught.
If everyone knew that that phone would become worthless, these types of thefts would calm down. You might have a phone to play with for an hour (and if you were savvy, you might try using the linked email to break into some financial accounts), but the sketchy guy in the ice cream truck with a "cash for phones" sign isn't going to want soon-to-be bricked devices.
As an aside, if I were a robber, I am not sure if I would take the phone or not. Maybe take it and toss or break it (especially if it will be bricked remotely). The last thing I would want after robbing someone is something that is so easily tracked. My movements after the theft might be recorded and the phone might be hard to sell since they are much easier to check the history on than cash or random jewelry (and I would have to turn it on show any potential buyer that it was working).
The audio latency issues on android are kind of a shame.
The one reason I almost bought an ipad instead of an android tablet was basically so I could use the ReBirth app (and maybe other music apps in the future). Figured it wasn't worth double the money for a single app when I got a deal on a 2013 Nexus 7...but I wish I could run it.
There are some alternatives but the audio latency just kills it. You can write stuff and then hit play, but you can't adjust it on the fly without lag. If you are writing it in advance, might as well use a computer since you aren't taking advantage of a big multitouch control surface to have live control of multiple effects.
To be fair, ctrl-shift-t is magical. I found out about it years ago and use it multiple times per day.
In fact, now that I have started doing my breakfast/couchbound casual browsing on a Nexus 7 instead of a netbook, I have come to miss the ease of restoring closed tabs (that and easy within-page searching...you can at least do that on a tablet, but it is a lot slower than with ctrl-f and f3)
Unless you are burning your food to a crisp until it is a bitter, blackened mess, you are fine. Food temps don't traditionally get anywhere near high enough for this to be a problem or a danger.
It may be a well made and tasty bacon (I have had TJ's bacon, its not bad at all), but it is definitely cured and definitely contained nitrites. This article explains why sometimes, it can even be labeled "Uncured" despite the fact that it is actually cured (since USDA regulations apparently don't currently include celery-curing): http://fyi.uwex.edu/meats/file...
I don't even know why you would want to eat nitrite-free bacon...it won't taste like bacon and it might give you botulism. Either stick to fresh pork or accept that nitrites are required when consuming cured/smoked/aged pork products.
Check out my response to his request for sources above. I found an abstract for a paper that corroborates the fact that you can't actually measure the amount of nitrites going in to a celery-cured product (probably due to the reasons you specified).
I also cite an article that cites a cooks illustrated study that found more residual nitrites in the celery-bacon than in traditional bacon, suggesting that they might use more nitrites in the curing process. However, I just found this abstract which says that bacteria growth was found to be higher in "no-nitrate-or-nitrite-added" meats than in traditional cured meats. This suggests to me that they might have *less* nitrites since the bacteria isn't being inhibited (it also suggests that you should avoid the alternative methods if you plan to store the meat for a long period of time before consuming).
I pulled out some of my sausage books. First, let me apologize--in my prior posts, I have been mixing up nitrites and nitrates. Sodium Nitrite is in instacure #1 (sodium nitrate is added to instacure #2 which is not used for things like bacon...usually only air dried meats like aged salamis) and is used when meat will be smoked/steamed/etc. Bacon is just cured and smoked pork belly (and pork belly was often listed on restaurant menus as "Fresh Bacon" until recently when pork belly became trendy again).
The Ruhlman/Polcyn charcuterie book doesn't go deep enough into detail, but cites Harold McGee's "On Food And Cooking". I don't have a copy, so I've tried to find some other sources.
Ruhlman writes about "Uncured" and "No Nitrites or Nitrates Added" Bacon. Of particular note is his link to his article about meat curing safety concerns where he talks about the actual dangers of nitrites (only a few grams of sodium nitrite can kill you, which is partly why curing salt is only ~6% sodium nitrite).
. 400+ hotdogs (or quite a lot of bacon) has fewer nitrites than a single serving of Arugula (a whole foods favorite) or 4 servings of celery or beets.
Fact Sheet from American Meat Institute. Possibly biased source, but has some discussion of how beets/celery are used to create cured meats (which by definition include nitrites).
UW-Madison Meat Laboratory pamphlet. Has some good discussion of what the different terminology on meat product labeling means. Particularly of note is the USDA rules that allow you to call products cured with non-traditional sources of nitrites "uncured" despite the fact that they are cured. Also discusses how meats only make up 5% of our nitrite intake and ~90% of the nitriate and nitrite added to meats is broken down and converted to other compounds, leaving very little behind.
Some discussion on the curing process from one of the better sausage resources online. Cited for discussion of actual quantities and ratios of curing salts needed to work. You need about 50ppm to be effective, the FDA asks for 156ppm to ensure enough curing plus a safe amount of nitrites. If whole foods is selling it, you can be sure it meets these requirements.
I recognize that I have yet to provide a source that substantiates the claim that the celery-bacon may have more nitrates than traditional bacon. According to this abstract (can't access the full paper), it is not possible/difficult to "analytically measure the amount of nitrite produced by this [alternative] process" (since nitrites break down and while you can measure their presence after the fact, you can't measure their presence in the initial curing)
Hope some of this answers your questions (or points you in the right direction if you have journal access). My takeaway from it all is that it really doesn't matter. There is so little of it present in cured meats compared to other foods that are never even questioned that it seems like a total red-herring used to sell one brand over another (like
Curing is based on a formula. You need a certain amount of sodium nitrate per pound of pork.
The celery method must add at least that much nitrate or the meat would never pass inspection as a cured product and couldn't be called bacon.
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Was always a handy tool...I just haven't had reason to use it since about the last time it was updated.
A single 25 year old earning 150k is probably feeling pretty good, even living somewhere like NYC.
But a household with two earners in their 40s and kids that makes 150k definitely counts as middle class. Certainly not on the low side of middle class (and in cheap areas, definitely doing pretty well), but its not like they are going to be overflowing with disposable income. Life isn't bad--which it shouldn't be for the middle class--but you aren't going to be retiring early and spending lots of time at that vacation home in the south of France.
I know that there are some pretty lackluster econ programs out there (I have heard of some that will grant a degree in econ without requiring even single variable calculus), but I went to a school with a fairly rigorous econ program. I'm not going to say it was the most rigorous program in the school, but there were plenty of people who thought they would rather get better grades in an "easier" major than tough it out in econ once multivariable calculus and econometrics rolled around.
I'd still say that, in terms of general employability (without further education), a B econ grad is also better than an A english grad. Anyone looking to study english or history or similar, should honestly think about their choices. I don't think people shouldn't study them--but they need to seek some wisdom about their elective choices. Even if you are studying english, you should know some calculus, take some basic statistics, microeconomics and CS (intro-to-programming type stuff). You don't need an econ degree to go into the business world--and 95% of econ majors never use the upper-level coursework again--but having some evidence of qualitative skills on your resume is extremely important.
If you absolutely can't get any financial aid (i.e. wealthy parents who won't pay for you but whose income prevents you from aid eligibility), then you are simply an idiot for not getting a job shelving books in the library and pursuing paying positions in the summers.
Term time employment is not hard to find (and in my experience, campus jobs tend to pay on the high side), and you can find something that is only 10-20 hours a week and won't interfere much with your studies. Also, half of the student jobs out there are the kind where you can study in your down time (the kids who check out books at the library or ring you up at the student coffee shop can spend half of their time doing their course reading). At $12 an hour (pretty common for student jobs, even without work-study), this can net you 6-7k each year. And of course you could always work more if you really needed to (and reduce living expenses below the "average" which includes the kids living off mom and dad).
Then, you should absolutely be working during the off periods. Not too hard to nab a retail job during winter break leading up to christmas (although not a ton of earnings from that either). But you should be working full time all summer, every summer. Even if you don't need the money, you should do this since it always seems like the kids who don't are the ones who have the hardest time finding jobs after graduation (no experience). Even if you can't beat the $12 an hour you had before, this should get you another 6k for the year. And after the first year of school, you get access to better programs, and internships from higher paying employers. Lots of places pay interns the same as 1st year employees...even in the middle of the crisis in the summer of 2008, lots of kids were getting an easy 15-18 an hour plus overtime. With a bit of work, its not that hard to clear 10k in a summer. Yeah--you don't get to go take that unpaid internship that the rich kids can afford, but it's ok--they are just being exploited anyways. You'll come out with experience, money, and maybe even a post-graduation job offer.
That pretty much covers all of your living expenses (and then some...considering you should probably be living a little sparser than the average student). Honestly, you could even still drop a grand in extra loan money on a cool spring break every year and it wouldn't really matter. You are still going to clock in at only mid 5-figure debt.
The people complaining in the media about 150k debt for 4 years of school are either lying, actually had post-graduate education, or made extremely poor and lazy decisions (and I count going to a $$$ private university as a poor decision if you have zero financial aid). Its not even easy to get 150k in loans. You can't get that much from federal loans...and private lenders aren't so favorable to slacker kids who can't even bother to earn a single dollar all 4 years.
Thing is...if you fly often for work, you will reach status within a year and be getting upgraded on every flight. The monday-thursday consultants and other heavy business travelers are getting their upgrades for free...the fees are usually being billed to the client, and clients don't like to pay for first-class.
What about incorporating in order to move that tax burden off of your books and onto that of your business? Should help your subsidy eligibility. I'm not an accountant (and can't speak to the intricacies of an LLC vs an S-Corp), but I know that a lot of self employed people who recently made the jump from sole proprietorship to incorporation and they all wish they had done it years ago.
They probably had a pretty good idea of how many people would be required to sign up, how many of those people would opt out, and how many people would switch over from something else. Using these numbers, they probably picked 7m people as a conservative estimate of how many people would sign up...and thus it was easy to hit it.
Making a big deal of this is as if it were front-page news that the number of people completing their tax returns skyrocketed between March 15th and April 15th...of course they do. Nobody calls it into question because everybody knows that you put stuff like that (especially if you owe money) as long as possible. The problem here might be that the people at places like Fox News have been on corporate payroll for so long (with health benefits), that they have no idea what is going through the minds of someone who has to actually signup on their own.
Backup systems are meant to never have to be accessed. Until you need them, in which case you want quick and easy access, and if you really care, you want more than just your pictures backed up so that you can get up and running quick (i.e. dropbox might be ok for some home user who only uses the computer for personal use and would otherwise have zero backups. It's not ok for someone who uses that computer for a living and needs to be able to get up and running again quickly in order to start making money again).
It can be very expensive and take time to get those hours...but a crazy person who wins the lottery (or an insurance settlement) wouldn't have much trouble making it into the air.
Do you even read slashdot, or do you just come here to post your awful shit?
Get your own damn blog.
Tying benefits to employment is stupid (especially with how often people are changing jobs these days). If everybody bought health insurance on their own (or had it provided by the government), then walmart wouldn't see a cost savings by hiring 2 people to work 20-30 hours instead of one to work 40-60, in fact they would probably see a savings since training costs would be reduced, turnover might be reduced (people will stop ditching the PT job as soon as they find something FT), and you might end up with a more effective employee.
IIRC, this essentially came as an unintended consequence of some government wage controls during/following the war. Companies couldn't raise wages to attract talent, so they started offering non-wage benefits. Now it is standard for it to come from your employer, while people buying their own insurance get screwed by high prices. Hard to break free of that system though...everybody expects the benefit, and it costs the company less to provide the benefit than they would have to pay you extra to afford your own insurance. So skilled/in demand workers keep getting their benefits, while the easily replaceable laborers get 30 hour work weeks.
I'd much rather have a bunch of people out there building a life sized Ark (and maybe even employing some skilled tradesmen) than for that same money being spent winning local elections for candidates that want to take evolution out of textbooks.
Good to know--I will have to try again. Glad they fixed this, as it was really a bummer
Netflix wins hands down there...my HTPC is significantly more powerful than my parents roku...but their amazon streaming looks way better.
This means they can make lots of local political campaign contributions (both to buy influence and to get themselves tickets to all of the fundraising galas where they can meet and great with the townsfolk). They also tend to be somewhat of a dynasty, having been started back in the golden age of automobiles and inherited by younger family members
Then, what do you do when you've got 2 kids, and your dealer brother's got 2 kids, and you don't have enough dealerships for them to all inherit? Why not send one of them into politics? It could be very beneficial to your business to have someone on the city counsel, and you've got the cash to finance the race. Maybe later they move on to the state senate.
Just like if I stole your laptop to use it myself, I would wipe the drive first (though many thieves are not so clever), or if I wanted to sell it, I would put a clean OS on it. Might be some valuable information stashed on your drive, but if I am a petty thief, I probably care more about the easy money of selling electronics vs the more complex prospect of figuring out how to profit off a stolen identity (much more difficult than cash).
A kill switch that bricked the phone (or made it unable to join a mobile network or fully boot until disabled) would kill the residual value of the phone. Sure, maybe you could harvest it for parts, but if the bootloader is locked and the OS is hosed, nobody is going to be using it as a phone again.
Person is on the train, engrossed in their facebook news feed (and probably have their headphones on so as to be further zoned out). Train pulls into stop and doors open. Thief rips phone out of person's hand and dashes out the closing doors. By the time the victim or anyone nearby recognizes what just happened, the doors are closed and the train is pulling away (and to an outside observer on the platform, it just looked like a guy who forgot it was his stop and dashed to get off the train). Less pro thiefs may not have the timing down, but they can probably run fast enough to still avoid getting caught.
If everyone knew that that phone would become worthless, these types of thefts would calm down. You might have a phone to play with for an hour (and if you were savvy, you might try using the linked email to break into some financial accounts), but the sketchy guy in the ice cream truck with a "cash for phones" sign isn't going to want soon-to-be bricked devices.
As an aside, if I were a robber, I am not sure if I would take the phone or not. Maybe take it and toss or break it (especially if it will be bricked remotely). The last thing I would want after robbing someone is something that is so easily tracked. My movements after the theft might be recorded and the phone might be hard to sell since they are much easier to check the history on than cash or random jewelry (and I would have to turn it on show any potential buyer that it was working).
The one reason I almost bought an ipad instead of an android tablet was basically so I could use the ReBirth app (and maybe other music apps in the future). Figured it wasn't worth double the money for a single app when I got a deal on a 2013 Nexus 7...but I wish I could run it.
There are some alternatives but the audio latency just kills it. You can write stuff and then hit play, but you can't adjust it on the fly without lag. If you are writing it in advance, might as well use a computer since you aren't taking advantage of a big multitouch control surface to have live control of multiple effects.
In fact, now that I have started doing my breakfast/couchbound casual browsing on a Nexus 7 instead of a netbook, I have come to miss the ease of restoring closed tabs (that and easy within-page searching...you can at least do that on a tablet, but it is a lot slower than with ctrl-f and f3)
Unless you are burning your food to a crisp until it is a bitter, blackened mess, you are fine. Food temps don't traditionally get anywhere near high enough for this to be a problem or a danger.
It may be a well made and tasty bacon (I have had TJ's bacon, its not bad at all), but it is definitely cured and definitely contained nitrites. This article explains why sometimes, it can even be labeled "Uncured" despite the fact that it is actually cured (since USDA regulations apparently don't currently include celery-curing): http://fyi.uwex.edu/meats/file...
I don't even know why you would want to eat nitrite-free bacon...it won't taste like bacon and it might give you botulism. Either stick to fresh pork or accept that nitrites are required when consuming cured/smoked/aged pork products.
I also cite an article that cites a cooks illustrated study that found more residual nitrites in the celery-bacon than in traditional bacon, suggesting that they might use more nitrites in the curing process. However, I just found this abstract which says that bacteria growth was found to be higher in "no-nitrate-or-nitrite-added" meats than in traditional cured meats. This suggests to me that they might have *less* nitrites since the bacteria isn't being inhibited (it also suggests that you should avoid the alternative methods if you plan to store the meat for a long period of time before consuming).
The Ruhlman/Polcyn charcuterie book doesn't go deep enough into detail, but cites Harold McGee's "On Food And Cooking". I don't have a copy, so I've tried to find some other sources.
. 400+ hotdogs (or quite a lot of bacon) has fewer nitrites than a single serving of Arugula (a whole foods favorite) or 4 servings of celery or beets.
Hope some of this answers your questions (or points you in the right direction if you have journal access). My takeaway from it all is that it really doesn't matter. There is so little of it present in cured meats compared to other foods that are never even questioned that it seems like a total red-herring used to sell one brand over another (like
Curing is based on a formula. You need a certain amount of sodium nitrate per pound of pork. The celery method must add at least that much nitrate or the meat would never pass inspection as a cured product and couldn't be called bacon.