No way it's going to do anything to real data centers.. And just targeting this slashdvertisment as "data center for geeks in you mom basement" is just stupid. For real geeks is laughable - kind of child play, for all of us who seen real DC hardware. For general consumer which wants his routing and data back up it's not going work too. Sounds too complex (marketed for geeks), too hard to configure. These are just glorified routers for very limited community to write software for and hack various devices with it. They're pretty cool indeed. Home automation? etc
Yesterday article about binary incompatibility was just a troll and some fellow slashdotter already pointed to this: http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2008/04/04/dear-dev-corvin/ This is a short answer from MS employee. Can't be more clear, because entire article was complete bullshit.
We're trying as fast as we can to reach that Earth planet we were talking about recently, but our board computer we upgraded to Windows Vista, crashed several times, which resulted our ship to be put for few years on Uranus orbit, so we won't be able to reach that Earth planet before the what earthlings call year 2011.
Thanks for understanding, Forever yours, Windows 7 overlords.
That's right.. Read Mark Russinovich blog for instance - he actually writes content and I got used to trust his words for granted, because the guy knows windows internals and he's involved in actual windows development. TFA is just a bunch questionable ideas - it's usually called yellow journalism. Guy doesnt build his article on real knowledge or some insider information - he's just pulling "facts" out of his ass. "Sources" doesn't mean I want an URL to press-release or tech article. But at least I want to know wtf he got this from, which contradicts everything I know about WinSxS, Vista and Windows 7 from LEGITIMATE sources.
No single link to source - where did they get this info, just unfounded speculations. Windows 7 early builds was already demoed and there's no evidence that it will be backward-compatible. Also WinSxS (side-by-side dlls) is what windows xp uses to maintain different versions of runtimes from the start and obviously it has little to do with OS speed. While reading this article the only thought prevailed - wtf author is smoking. Complete rubbish.
I think what he was actually saying and I agree with him, that addiction starts right when you have your first drink. It's just a matter of time and how much you drink and your tolerance it develops into something nasty. It fucks with your brain even if it's 200mg of beer.
One day I read that to 100% restore high-level brain functions, one needs 2 weeks of sobriety. The one who has couple of beers/wine etc each week or two is simply working on suboptimal level if brain is the main tool. It's ok for other workers and maybe CEOs, but not for scientists, where you need as much advantage as you can.
It is funny though that MS itself started this way and B Gates knows about this, maybe even better than anybody in the industry, yet we've being seen MS to become big bureaucratic enterprise that can't really innovate no more. Their XP success is pretty much logically follows from NT4, and NT4 was still being developed by VMS hacker guys, old-type, so MS windows department just added bells and whistles and created new OS. What modern day MS Windows department itself can produce we've seen few times already (ME and Vista). So far MS is turning into big behemoth that can serve only niche customers (like IBM LotusNotes, Sun etc). Maybe it's just logical development of any enterprise, when the very first head forgets that he didnt quite started the enterprise to make money or please shareholders. And throwing money on the problem does nothing.
It's the first thing I do when installed fresh copy of windows. I do this with TweakUI XP - it's download at MS site. Very handy little tool to make initial tuning.
And how many %% of OSS crowd really care about OS/2? I don't care, for instance. It's just small %% who remembers what OSS is and wants its source. You can't please everybody with finite resources. As another poster in this sub-thread said, open sourcing any code isn't free at all.
Look, the idea is doomed to die once fulfilled (XP vs Vista, anyone? MS just in dead end). If Linus still sees obvious ways to improve his code and sees ways to improve for other ppls code, this becomes good driving force for innovation. Everyone benefit from this, when men like Linus want to scratch their itch. "Linus speaking for Linux" argument only can be in some half-blocked mind. Linus doesn't think in terms of Linux - he's the creator of Linux, he'd to think above this level and this is good, it's the process of improvement. I think further years will unleash us more and more in OS design and hardware design. It's just getting better and better. And Linus not agreeing with current design for me is why I love technical progress, because sooner or later we have something better!
Perl is de-facto standard and is going to stay this way forever. Python just can't surpass perl shell-like syntax and C-likeness.. Not gonna happen in any time soon. And we love it this way;)
No offence, but it's mostly child-talk, what I read in the summary. Do you really think slashdot crowd is that stupid? Planning, achieving goals, time management is very important to all adult people. And they're usually good at it, that's why they're called adults. For kids out there article doesn't help anyway, because it's just a bunch of pre-canned orders. Embarrassing. Please don't let slashdot to become another "Cosmopolitan" or "Men's health". We value scientific and system approach here, not some light journalism.
>> when people could actually fall in love with life-like robots
It doesn't even require a life-like robot for a nerd to fall in love with.. Usually a bit of pixels on the screen, resembling some attractive women having sex with men do just fine $)
It's true when you redistribute your web solution as product. But when you make a web service, install it and start serving to the public, and service contains AGPLed code in it, it's violation. With GPL code it wasn't violation, because you weren't really distribute your code to the public, so it was safe.
OK.. I agree that it's violation of perl module author. But it's web service author violation too, because it's using AGPL software on the web. Perl module author violates by not setting compatible license, but web service author violates too by presenting web service to the world made with AGPL software? Or not? Anyway... I think this will fragment opensource toolbox for web developers which isn't good.
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get hairy when you use it too much for the "entertainment" taking 90% of your harddrive ;)?
No way it's going to do anything to real data centers.. And just targeting this slashdvertisment as "data center for geeks in you mom basement" is just stupid. For real geeks is laughable - kind of child play, for all of us who seen real DC hardware.
For general consumer which wants his routing and data back up it's not going work too. Sounds too complex (marketed for geeks), too hard to configure.
These are just glorified routers for very limited community to write software for and hack various devices with it. They're pretty cool indeed. Home automation? etc
Dress all as The Flash and line up so it appears like you're 1 man indeed, but moving very very fast.. Should be pretty original and cool
Yesterday article about binary incompatibility was just a troll and some fellow slashdotter already pointed to this:
http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2008/04/04/dear-dev-corvin/
This is a short answer from MS employee. Can't be more clear, because entire article was complete bullshit.
Dear Zo^H^HBill,
We're trying as fast as we can to reach that Earth planet we were talking about recently, but our board computer we upgraded to Windows Vista, crashed several times, which resulted our ship to be put for few years on Uranus orbit, so we won't be able to reach that Earth planet before the what earthlings call year 2011.
Thanks for understanding,
Forever yours,
Windows 7 overlords.
That's right.. Read Mark Russinovich blog for instance - he actually writes content and I got used to trust his words for granted, because the guy knows windows internals and he's involved in actual windows development.
TFA is just a bunch questionable ideas - it's usually called yellow journalism. Guy doesnt build his article on real knowledge or some insider information - he's just pulling "facts" out of his ass.
"Sources" doesn't mean I want an URL to press-release or tech article. But at least I want to know wtf he got this from, which contradicts everything I know about WinSxS, Vista and Windows 7 from LEGITIMATE sources.
No single link to source - where did they get this info, just unfounded speculations.
Windows 7 early builds was already demoed and there's no evidence that it will be backward-compatible.
Also WinSxS (side-by-side dlls) is what windows xp uses to maintain different versions of runtimes from the start and obviously it has little to do with OS speed.
While reading this article the only thought prevailed - wtf author is smoking. Complete rubbish.
I think what he was actually saying and I agree with him, that addiction starts right when you have your first drink. It's just a matter of time and how much you drink and your tolerance it develops into something nasty. It fucks with your brain even if it's 200mg of beer.
One day I read that to 100% restore high-level brain functions, one needs 2 weeks of sobriety. The one who has couple of beers/wine etc each week or two is simply working on suboptimal level if brain is the main tool. It's ok for other workers and maybe CEOs, but not for scientists, where you need as much advantage as you can.
Period. You can't stop software spreading if customers want it.
It is funny though that MS itself started this way and B Gates knows about this, maybe even better than anybody in the industry, yet we've being seen MS to become big bureaucratic enterprise that can't really innovate no more. Their XP success is pretty much logically follows from NT4, and NT4 was still being developed by VMS hacker guys, old-type, so MS windows department just added bells and whistles and created new OS.
What modern day MS Windows department itself can produce we've seen few times already (ME and Vista).
So far MS is turning into big behemoth that can serve only niche customers (like IBM LotusNotes, Sun etc). Maybe it's just logical development of any enterprise, when the very first head forgets that he didnt quite started the enterprise to make money or please shareholders.
And throwing money on the problem does nothing.
It's the first thing I do when installed fresh copy of windows. I do this with TweakUI XP - it's download at MS site. Very handy little tool to make initial tuning.
Uranus is so old :) Titanus is the way to go
And how many %% of OSS crowd really care about OS/2? I don't care, for instance. It's just small %% who remembers what OSS is and wants its source. You can't please everybody with finite resources.
As another poster in this sub-thread said, open sourcing any code isn't free at all.
Because in real world companies exist to make money, not please OSS crowd.
Look, the idea is doomed to die once fulfilled (XP vs Vista, anyone? MS just in dead end). If Linus still sees obvious ways to improve his code and sees ways to improve for other ppls code, this becomes good driving force for innovation. Everyone benefit from this, when men like Linus want to scratch their itch.
"Linus speaking for Linux" argument only can be in some half-blocked mind. Linus doesn't think in terms of Linux - he's the creator of Linux, he'd to think above this level and this is good, it's the process of improvement. I think further years will unleash us more and more in OS design and hardware design. It's just getting better and better. And Linus not agreeing with current design for me is why I love technical progress, because sooner or later we have something better!
Oh wait ;)
Perl is de-facto standard and is going to stay this way forever. Python just can't surpass perl shell-like syntax and C-likeness.. Not gonna happen in any time soon. ;)
And we love it this way
No offence, but it's mostly child-talk, what I read in the summary. Do you really think slashdot crowd is that stupid? Planning, achieving goals, time management is very important to all adult people. And they're usually good at it, that's why they're called adults. For kids out there article doesn't help anyway, because it's just a bunch of pre-canned orders. Embarrassing.
Please don't let slashdot to become another "Cosmopolitan" or "Men's health".
We value scientific and system approach here, not some light journalism.
I have a passive cooler on my card.. No jingle bells for me? :(
>> when people could actually fall in love with life-like robots
It doesn't even require a life-like robot for a nerd to fall in love with.. Usually a bit of pixels on the screen, resembling some attractive women having sex with men do just fine $)
>> Most of the code in the TCP/IP stacks were from Novell
Do you have any link to support your claim?
Most of TCP/IP stack both in Novell and MS Windows is from BSD code. And yes, they can use as they want.
Ethereal had this for years.. Although not automatic. But you still can match calls by SIP URIs and reconstruct wavs from the stream.
It's true when you redistribute your web solution as product. But when you make a web service, install it and start serving to the public, and service contains AGPLed code in it, it's violation.
With GPL code it wasn't violation, because you weren't really distribute your code to the public, so it was safe.
OK.. I agree that it's violation of perl module author. But it's web service author violation too, because it's using AGPL software on the web. Perl module author violates by not setting compatible license, but web service author violates too by presenting web service to the world made with AGPL software? Or not?
Anyway... I think this will fragment opensource toolbox for web developers which isn't good.