Your goal should not be to get more for less, but to advance the amout everyone gets over time. That is the fundamental flaw of communism: short term thinking. Competition fosters technological growth, which in the long run gives everyone more than any "fair" system of distibution.
That's why everyone on earth is dependent on communist China for practically everything they own, and the USSR was so powerful it was able to take on the entire western world for decades and build rocket ships. Because communism is fundamentally flawed.
You know what the fundamental flaw of communism is? Bad neighbors.
The problem is, as I've been flamed for before, Linux is still nowhere near the point where a non-techie will consider adopting it. Although it's much better than it was even a few years ago, it's still not an idiot-friendly OS where things 'just work', compared to what people are used to.
My 8 year old uses it just fine.
The woman is an airhead. Airheads regularly fail to critically examine what they're doing, then blame others for their lack of success. It's a personality flaw, and nothing anyone does is going to provide anything more than a very temporary fix. So, attempting to solve the problems of people like this woman by changing the operating system are doomed to failure.
Maybe I'm dense, but how the hell does flooding a wireless card with brute force dictionary attacks bottleneck on computation speed? You create your dictionary, once, you stick it on a hard drive, you stream it at your target through the wireless networking card, you wait.
This product seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Even if they did come up with some particularly clever algorithm for creating more effective dictionaries and speed it up GPUs, there's no need to recreate a dictionary every time you're doing a brute force attack.
The goal of yours to eliminate closed-source commercial software isn't even a noble goal. But you've come to desire that through use of bad commercial software. The fact is, some people, like me need to sell software to put food on the table.
It is my larger goal to eliminate currency by replacing it with a democratic system so effective that it blurs the line of separation between government and citizen, leading to a situation where the vast majority of people would actually prefer to govern their affairs with a democratic political system and a communist economic system because it gives them more for less. If that goal can be achieved, your needs will be met, and you will no longer have any motivation to support the concept of commercial software, but will become my ally and supporter out of a sense of vested self-interest. If it can't, I'll change my name to Don Quixote...
It's sort of like attempting to prove logically whether God exists or not.
God is the universe, and the universe is God. That is the definition of God, and because that is the definition of God, logic is irrelevant to the equation. I am ShieldW0lf. That is my name. I exist, and logic is irrelevant to the question.
If you find it necessary to debate the existence of God, it's because the person who described God to you implied that their opinions and conclusions as to the nature of God is an essential part of the definition of the word God, when they are not.
The whole point of the GPL is to strengthen those who are materially sharing your ideals while diminishing those who are materially acting against them.
What kind of flawed logic is this? This isn't a game-of-life board, you know. There's nothing "the GPL" can do to "diminish those" who don't adopt it.
How bizarre that the same ontological mistake is made again and again: code is confused with living, thinking, entities (i.e., humans).
It's no different than if I believed that guns should be used for self-defense, and only for self defense, and so I gave away free guns with the restriction that only those not convicted of murder were permitted to use them. Assume for arguments sake that I'm able to enforce this.
Now, all those people who want a gun for self defense will no longer pay arms dealers for the guns. Instead, they will take them free from me.
Now, the arms dealers have a dramatic drop in volume of sales, because only those who are interested in murder and aggression will be buying from them. Maybe 2/3rd of the arms dealers go out of business, and the per unit cost of the guns goes up dramatically.
This scenario strengthens those who agree with me. Some have more economic power in their pocket because they saved money, others have a gun for self defense even though they have no money at all.
But it also weakens those who disagree with me. Indiscriminate arms dealers find it harder to make a profit, and murderers pay more for their guns, leaving them with less economic power in their pocket. Some of them no longer can afford one.
This is how the GPL works. In the general sense, it destroys economic value by destroying scarcity and creating plenty, but it also increases scarcity for those who refuse to be bound by its covenants.
Oh, and with regards to your ontological comments, stop being such an idiot. If I run you down with my car, and someone says "He was killed by a speeding car.", it's not a false statement, and it's not implying that the car is alive. Get your head out of your ass.
I'm confused -- until this moment, wouldn't they have been hoping exactly this would happen, and cursing the fact that they had to deal with the GPL?
The whole point of the GPL is to strengthen those who are materially sharing your ideals while diminishing those who are materially acting against them. I personally believe in the ideals behind the GPL, and I personally think it sucks to see that those who are materially acting contrary to those ideals are sharing the benefits of this code.
I would like to see the day arise where the closed source commercial software industry dies because it's forced to re-invent more and more wheels that open source software developers do not have to re-invent and is unable to remain competitive. That day just got further away.
No, the GPL just presumes to attempt to restrict what I do with my code that has no GPL code in it. Which is within their rights, but thoroughly corrupt and domineering of them.
Which makes sense, as Stallman is the ugliest type of human being--the zealot.
Stallman is a member of a Jewish political movement from the first century AD whose primary goal is to incite the people of Iudaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire?
Wow, that's crappy news. There's a whole group of people out there who couldn't afford the commercial license and were trying to make their business/development work around the GPL who now no longer have any need to make the effort, and therefore won't.
Any time you have a smaller group within a larger group, and they're acting together in secret to further their own interests at the expense of the larger group, you have a conspiracy.
Which means that every private enterprise is a conspiracy, every corporation is a conspiracy, every government group that secures funds whose purpose and/or usage is kept secret is a conspiracy, every nation state is a conspiracy.
Conspiracy is the natural order of our global civilization. Which makes those who laugh at "conspiracy theorists" all the more ridiculous looking.
Once you realize that, you see that it doesn't matter if you catch the conspirators or not. You can still understand the systemic mechanisms by which they are facilitated in their action, and act against those systemic mechanisms. This lets you actively disenfranchise enemies that you cannot see or even confirm the existence of.
Honestly though, in this case, if you don't recognize that the cables were repeatedly and intentionally cut in the Mediterranean as part of the ongoing military actions of the Allies of Evil, you're a simpleton who ought to be fed with a slingshot.
I'm beginning to think that in general, modern society is a Perfect Storm factory.
Can you think of any intersections between A) groups who might be in a position to guide modern society that way, B) groups who might want society to end up that way, and C) groups who are positioning themselves to thrive in the aftermath?
If you were given the opportunity to shape society to prevent such a thing, how would you live? How would you govern yourself if you were trying to systematically disenfranchise people with such goals without having the capacity to point them out? What systems, what supporting technology would you need to make such a lifestyle achievable by your neighbours?
This is our world, our birthright. We shouldn't have to revert to individual survialism and live with a prejudicial fear of systems and each other. We are capable of better, and we should stand up and take responsibility for ourselves. It's our failure to do so that makes these sorts of nightmare scenarios possible.
Bucci says he's sensitive to luxury-car owners who may not want to participate. "Many of our owners enjoy their car as a cocoon," he says.
They know this, and yet they violate the sanctity of that cocoon anyways. How self-destructively stupid can you get? Can you give the Darwin award to a car maker?
Will there be an advertisement where the driver rolls down their window to give someone some Grey Poupon and is overcome by the noise of nearby jackhammers, then rolls up the window and is blissfully appreciating the quiet when suddenly they're startled out of their relaxation by a blaring message from Toyota recommending that they investigate a nearby 5 star restaurant, the marketing department having recently decided to increase the volume because a large segment of their target demographic is hard of hearing?
When you, as a culture, embrace the concept of Riba, that would be a big step in leaving your legacy of evil oppression behind.
Funny thing about your culture... you recognize it's evil to do this sort of thing to each other, it's written in your holy books:
Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother: interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent upon interest. Unto a foreigner thou mayest lend upon interest; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon interest; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou puttest thy hand unto, in the land whither thou goest in to possess it. (Deuteronomy, 23:20-21)
Almost sounds like a racist conspiracy to steal from your fellow man. Oh, that must be because THAT IS WHAT IT IS. Yet, you systematically do this to other people, and then when they call you to task on it, you throw your hands up in the air and act like butter wouldn't melt in your mouths.
How many bullets did the money Bernard Madoff stole from everyone else on earth and distributed to his fellow racist conspirators pay for? Do you think systematically stealing from the rest of us, engaging in wars of conquest of other nations and murdering and subjugating their people is defensible?
If you had any decency, you would be ashamed to be associated with the history and continued actions of your people. You damned well should be. Personally, I hope any of you who refuse to get the hell out of there and leave those people in peace get slaughtered to the last man, woman and child. It's nothing more or less than what is deserved.
Yikes, I hope no one was using SQL Server. 6 months to move every system to a new operating system? Moving one single system is a huge effort that most companies wouldn't even think about doing in such a short time.
Technically, you could convert the Windows install into a virtual machine, install Linux and fire up the virtual machine with Windows installed on it, and you'd be in compliance. If I was one of the technicians responsible for implementing this, and knew I wasn't going to make my deadline, that's what I would do.
IMO, it's interesting to note the difference between the two. Israel seems to always have its military act together, beginning with the war it fought right after it got its land [back].
On one side, we have what was termed "e-vandalism." On the other side, we have a very planned strategy to do something, although I don't know what yet.
Just an interesting look into the different... tactics, if you will.
Disclaimer for contextual reading of this comment: I am pro-Israel, anti-terrorism, and I really do think Israel wants peace and Hamas wants no-live-Jew-on-face-of-earth. This is not an anti-Jew post.
You may as well ask why the Anarchists of Spain didn't organize themselves into a highly regimented vertical power structure and defeat their enemies rather than being defeated. The answer is, they thought it was immoral. This is practically identical. The Islamic people call the Jews "The People of the Book", and it is their position that those sort of power structures are sinful and wrong.
Disclaimer for the contextual reading of this comment: I am anti-Israel, pro-liberty, and I really do think the people of Israel are racists, thieves and war criminals who need to be stopped, not because of their bloodline, but because of their vicious ideology.
Except, of course, that the currency is under control of the government, and therefore, they can print more at any time, and hand them out to organizations that are without accountability. This devalues your money, and transfers that value to the corporation. It's just like taxes, except it's less work because you don't need to retrieve anything from the population.
So while your post might sound good to the ignorant, it's not an accurate representation of the realities of the situation.
It has to do with accountability, and stated ideals and responsibilities.
When the government screws the people, you can at least point at them and say "That's not right, you're not supposed to do that, and we're going to hold you to higher standards. We have that right."
When a corporation screws the people, they're just doing what "they're supposed to do". They have no higher standards to be held to.
That's the freedom we brought to the USSR. The people still get screwed, but the leadership is free of the requirement to even make it seem like they're looking out for the people, and can flaunt the arbitrary manner in which they wield their power with impunity.
There are people that believe the "Gates Foundation" is more of a marketing move than a moral standpoint. When you give that much money under the name of a company founder, you don't need advertisement... Viral marketing kicks in and it's spread by word of mouth. They can spend money on things they want to do and get free advertisement "credit" for the company.
It's not a marketing move, and it's not a moral standpoint. People are denied access to drugs that are cheap to manufacture because they are encumbered with intellectual property. Nations were prepared to do away with intellectual property law and supply their population with the medicine they needed. That's why Gates is doing this. He doesn't give them money because he wants to help them, he gives them money because he wants to maintain the laws that prevent them from helping themselves, because his fortune depends on the exploitation of people using those laws as a mechanism. If the Gates foundation did not exist, more people would have medicine.
This sort of behavior would be totally illegal if it wasn't disguised as charitable work. That's what the Gates foundation is for, to allow them to circumvent laws, manipulate and subvert government programs and engage in even more anti-social behavior than they are already known for.
No. Maybe the geek community won't "trust" MS, but then again that is not news (though plenty geeks use MS products regularly). Businesses will use WIndows 7 without any questions. Their only concern is the money spent.
Right. Who is going to support it? The jocks and the cheerleaders?
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Your goal should not be to get more for less, but to advance the amout everyone gets over time. That is the fundamental flaw of communism: short term thinking. Competition fosters technological growth, which in the long run gives everyone more than any "fair" system of distibution.
That's why everyone on earth is dependent on communist China for practically everything they own, and the USSR was so powerful it was able to take on the entire western world for decades and build rocket ships. Because communism is fundamentally flawed.
You know what the fundamental flaw of communism is? Bad neighbors.
The problem is, as I've been flamed for before, Linux is still nowhere near the point where a non-techie will consider adopting it. Although it's much better than it was even a few years ago, it's still not an idiot-friendly OS where things 'just work', compared to what people are used to.
My 8 year old uses it just fine.
The woman is an airhead. Airheads regularly fail to critically examine what they're doing, then blame others for their lack of success. It's a personality flaw, and nothing anyone does is going to provide anything more than a very temporary fix. So, attempting to solve the problems of people like this woman by changing the operating system are doomed to failure.
Maybe I'm dense, but how the hell does flooding a wireless card with brute force dictionary attacks bottleneck on computation speed? You create your dictionary, once, you stick it on a hard drive, you stream it at your target through the wireless networking card, you wait.
This product seems like a bunch of bullshit to me. Even if they did come up with some particularly clever algorithm for creating more effective dictionaries and speed it up GPUs, there's no need to recreate a dictionary every time you're doing a brute force attack.
The goal of yours to eliminate closed-source commercial software isn't even a noble goal. But you've come to desire that through use of bad commercial software. The fact is, some people, like me need to sell software to put food on the table.
It is my larger goal to eliminate currency by replacing it with a democratic system so effective that it blurs the line of separation between government and citizen, leading to a situation where the vast majority of people would actually prefer to govern their affairs with a democratic political system and a communist economic system because it gives them more for less. If that goal can be achieved, your needs will be met, and you will no longer have any motivation to support the concept of commercial software, but will become my ally and supporter out of a sense of vested self-interest. If it can't, I'll change my name to Don Quixote...
the day I let RMS speak for my morality is the day I eat razor blades.
Six of one, half dozen of the other...
It's sort of like attempting to prove logically whether God exists or not.
God is the universe, and the universe is God. That is the definition of God, and because that is the definition of God, logic is irrelevant to the equation. I am ShieldW0lf. That is my name. I exist, and logic is irrelevant to the question.
If you find it necessary to debate the existence of God, it's because the person who described God to you implied that their opinions and conclusions as to the nature of God is an essential part of the definition of the word God, when they are not.
Easy.
The whole point of the GPL is to strengthen those who are materially sharing your ideals while diminishing those who are materially acting against them.
What kind of flawed logic is this? This isn't a game-of-life board, you know. There's nothing "the GPL" can do to "diminish those" who don't adopt it.
How bizarre that the same ontological mistake is made again and again: code is confused with living, thinking, entities (i.e., humans).
It's no different than if I believed that guns should be used for self-defense, and only for self defense, and so I gave away free guns with the restriction that only those not convicted of murder were permitted to use them. Assume for arguments sake that I'm able to enforce this.
Now, all those people who want a gun for self defense will no longer pay arms dealers for the guns. Instead, they will take them free from me.
Now, the arms dealers have a dramatic drop in volume of sales, because only those who are interested in murder and aggression will be buying from them. Maybe 2/3rd of the arms dealers go out of business, and the per unit cost of the guns goes up dramatically.
This scenario strengthens those who agree with me. Some have more economic power in their pocket because they saved money, others have a gun for self defense even though they have no money at all.
But it also weakens those who disagree with me. Indiscriminate arms dealers find it harder to make a profit, and murderers pay more for their guns, leaving them with less economic power in their pocket. Some of them no longer can afford one.
This is how the GPL works. In the general sense, it destroys economic value by destroying scarcity and creating plenty, but it also increases scarcity for those who refuse to be bound by its covenants.
Oh, and with regards to your ontological comments, stop being such an idiot. If I run you down with my car, and someone says "He was killed by a speeding car.", it's not a false statement, and it's not implying that the car is alive. Get your head out of your ass.
I'm confused -- until this moment, wouldn't they have been hoping exactly this would happen, and cursing the fact that they had to deal with the GPL?
The whole point of the GPL is to strengthen those who are materially sharing your ideals while diminishing those who are materially acting against them. I personally believe in the ideals behind the GPL, and I personally think it sucks to see that those who are materially acting contrary to those ideals are sharing the benefits of this code.
I would like to see the day arise where the closed source commercial software industry dies because it's forced to re-invent more and more wheels that open source software developers do not have to re-invent and is unable to remain competitive. That day just got further away.
No, the GPL just presumes to attempt to restrict what I do with my code that has no GPL code in it. Which is within their rights, but thoroughly corrupt and domineering of them.
Which makes sense, as Stallman is the ugliest type of human being--the zealot.
Stallman is a member of a Jewish political movement from the first century AD whose primary goal is to incite the people of Iudaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire?
Wow, that's crappy news. There's a whole group of people out there who couldn't afford the commercial license and were trying to make their business/development work around the GPL who now no longer have any need to make the effort, and therefore won't.
Thanks Nokia.
Any time you have a smaller group within a larger group, and they're acting together in secret to further their own interests at the expense of the larger group, you have a conspiracy.
Which means that every private enterprise is a conspiracy, every corporation is a conspiracy, every government group that secures funds whose purpose and/or usage is kept secret is a conspiracy, every nation state is a conspiracy.
Conspiracy is the natural order of our global civilization. Which makes those who laugh at "conspiracy theorists" all the more ridiculous looking.
Once you realize that, you see that it doesn't matter if you catch the conspirators or not. You can still understand the systemic mechanisms by which they are facilitated in their action, and act against those systemic mechanisms. This lets you actively disenfranchise enemies that you cannot see or even confirm the existence of.
Honestly though, in this case, if you don't recognize that the cables were repeatedly and intentionally cut in the Mediterranean as part of the ongoing military actions of the Allies of Evil, you're a simpleton who ought to be fed with a slingshot.
During the summer I switch to working four ten hour days. Its nice as it gives me Fridays off and have a long weekend. :)
I used to do that back when I worked at the explosives factory... shame it's not there anymore...
Looks like all the stuff I don't like about Vista, mixed with all the stuff I don't like about Mac's.
I'll stick with Ubuntu, thanks. If it doesn't run APT, it's shite.
I'm beginning to think that in general, modern society is a Perfect Storm factory.
Can you think of any intersections between A) groups who might be in a position to guide modern society that way, B) groups who might want society to end up that way, and C) groups who are positioning themselves to thrive in the aftermath?
If you were given the opportunity to shape society to prevent such a thing, how would you live? How would you govern yourself if you were trying to systematically disenfranchise people with such goals without having the capacity to point them out? What systems, what supporting technology would you need to make such a lifestyle achievable by your neighbours?
This is our world, our birthright. We shouldn't have to revert to individual survialism and live with a prejudicial fear of systems and each other. We are capable of better, and we should stand up and take responsibility for ourselves. It's our failure to do so that makes these sorts of nightmare scenarios possible.
Bucci says he's sensitive to luxury-car owners who may not want to participate. "Many of our owners enjoy their car as a cocoon," he says.
They know this, and yet they violate the sanctity of that cocoon anyways. How self-destructively stupid can you get? Can you give the Darwin award to a car maker?
Will there be an advertisement where the driver rolls down their window to give someone some Grey Poupon and is overcome by the noise of nearby jackhammers, then rolls up the window and is blissfully appreciating the quiet when suddenly they're startled out of their relaxation by a blaring message from Toyota recommending that they investigate a nearby 5 star restaurant, the marketing department having recently decided to increase the volume because a large segment of their target demographic is hard of hearing?
The Asian economy is the powerhouse of the globe. Anyone who is involved in finance is going to be paying attention to it.
What time is it in Asia when it's Sunday evening in the UK? Monday morning.
When you, as a culture, embrace the concept of Riba, that would be a big step in leaving your legacy of evil oppression behind.
Funny thing about your culture... you recognize it's evil to do this sort of thing to each other, it's written in your holy books:
Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother: interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of any thing that is lent upon interest. Unto a foreigner thou mayest lend upon interest; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon interest; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou puttest thy hand unto, in the land whither thou goest in to possess it. (Deuteronomy, 23:20-21)
Almost sounds like a racist conspiracy to steal from your fellow man. Oh, that must be because THAT IS WHAT IT IS. Yet, you systematically do this to other people, and then when they call you to task on it, you throw your hands up in the air and act like butter wouldn't melt in your mouths.
How many bullets did the money Bernard Madoff stole from everyone else on earth and distributed to his fellow racist conspirators pay for? Do you think systematically stealing from the rest of us, engaging in wars of conquest of other nations and murdering and subjugating their people is defensible?
If you had any decency, you would be ashamed to be associated with the history and continued actions of your people. You damned well should be. Personally, I hope any of you who refuse to get the hell out of there and leave those people in peace get slaughtered to the last man, woman and child. It's nothing more or less than what is deserved.
Yikes, I hope no one was using SQL Server. 6 months to move every system to a new operating system? Moving one single system is a huge effort that most companies wouldn't even think about doing in such a short time.
Technically, you could convert the Windows install into a virtual machine, install Linux and fire up the virtual machine with Windows installed on it, and you'd be in compliance. If I was one of the technicians responsible for implementing this, and knew I wasn't going to make my deadline, that's what I would do.
IMO, it's interesting to note the difference between the two. Israel seems to always have its military act together, beginning with the war it fought right after it got its land [back]. On one side, we have what was termed "e-vandalism." On the other side, we have a very planned strategy to do something, although I don't know what yet. Just an interesting look into the different ... tactics, if you will.
Disclaimer for contextual reading of this comment: I am pro-Israel, anti-terrorism, and I really do think Israel wants peace and Hamas wants no-live-Jew-on-face-of-earth. This is not an anti-Jew post.
You may as well ask why the Anarchists of Spain didn't organize themselves into a highly regimented vertical power structure and defeat their enemies rather than being defeated. The answer is, they thought it was immoral. This is practically identical. The Islamic people call the Jews "The People of the Book", and it is their position that those sort of power structures are sinful and wrong.
Disclaimer for the contextual reading of this comment: I am anti-Israel, pro-liberty, and I really do think the people of Israel are racists, thieves and war criminals who need to be stopped, not because of their bloodline, but because of their vicious ideology.
Get your own material, you insensitive clod.
Sure, you know Ubuntu kung-fu, but at what price?
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$34.95 or $43.75 with the PDF.
Or, you can go to isohunt.com
Except, of course, that the currency is under control of the government, and therefore, they can print more at any time, and hand them out to organizations that are without accountability. This devalues your money, and transfers that value to the corporation. It's just like taxes, except it's less work because you don't need to retrieve anything from the population.
So while your post might sound good to the ignorant, it's not an accurate representation of the realities of the situation.
It has to do with accountability, and stated ideals and responsibilities.
When the government screws the people, you can at least point at them and say "That's not right, you're not supposed to do that, and we're going to hold you to higher standards. We have that right."
When a corporation screws the people, they're just doing what "they're supposed to do". They have no higher standards to be held to.
That's the freedom we brought to the USSR. The people still get screwed, but the leadership is free of the requirement to even make it seem like they're looking out for the people, and can flaunt the arbitrary manner in which they wield their power with impunity.
That's freedom, western style.
There are people that believe the "Gates Foundation" is more of a marketing move than a moral standpoint. When you give that much money under the name of a company founder, you don't need advertisement... Viral marketing kicks in and it's spread by word of mouth. They can spend money on things they want to do and get free advertisement "credit" for the company.
It's not a marketing move, and it's not a moral standpoint. People are denied access to drugs that are cheap to manufacture because they are encumbered with intellectual property. Nations were prepared to do away with intellectual property law and supply their population with the medicine they needed. That's why Gates is doing this. He doesn't give them money because he wants to help them, he gives them money because he wants to maintain the laws that prevent them from helping themselves, because his fortune depends on the exploitation of people using those laws as a mechanism. If the Gates foundation did not exist, more people would have medicine.
This sort of behavior would be totally illegal if it wasn't disguised as charitable work. That's what the Gates foundation is for, to allow them to circumvent laws, manipulate and subvert government programs and engage in even more anti-social behavior than they are already known for.
No. Maybe the geek community won't "trust" MS, but then again that is not news (though plenty geeks use MS products regularly). Businesses will use WIndows 7 without any questions. Their only concern is the money spent.
Right. Who is going to support it? The jocks and the cheerleaders?