It is obvliuos this plan would include the proper royalties to all parties concerened. Therefore this is NOT piracy, instead it is legitimate marketing of a product. Does it disturb you slashdotteres because they would, OH MY GOSH, dare to charge for the recording?
Do you really think Kazaa only remotely impinges on the entertainment industry??? That's the sole purpose of this software. Pirating music, movies and software.
I know this will be marked flamebait because the thought police who vote on such things for Slashdot will not like what I have to say. (Funny for a baord that talks about guarenteeing free speech uses such measure to supress thought they don't agree with them). Let me put it bluntly: you guys are on crack. How about if I need food I walk in your house and raid your fridge? Or if I need to go somewhere I steal your car. Does that sound any different than "I want to hear a song, let me download it wihout paying?"
People create entertainment and DO NOT deserve to be ripped off. If you don't like how much it costs, that it has region coding or macrovision or whatever, don't buy it. But please, don't justify stealing as free speech.
IMHO, the problem with Trek movies nowadays is that they are trying to copy what worked in the past instead of coming up with something original.
Case in point: Star Treks I-IV were all differerent. Nothing alike, some better than others, but at least each were orginal plots.
With Insurrection they wanted a light movie like Star Trek IV. They analyzed why that one worked so well, then got it all wrong and made a horrible movie. The first was a fish out of water story that what charming and humor cam from seeing these people from an advanced future trying to deal with 1986 San Fran, while Insurrection gave us pimple and boob jokes. All I hear about Nemesis is that it is very much like The Wrath of Khan, something they set out to emulate.
As for this being the worst, it cannot be as bad as Insurrection or Star Trek V. Those are the bottom of the barrel.
In the pro world editing is equally fast on any platform (real time dissolves, etc.). Professional video comes down to the math intensive stuff: After Effects or Commotions, for instance. I always do my compositing, titles and other work in After Effects. It does not work in real time, and on a dealine I need to get my renders done fast. So it is a processor intensive thing.
If you are editing cuts, fine, speed is not the issue. But I just did a short comercial with fiftenn layers in After Effects, titles on that and a composite- it took eight hours on my 2Ghz machine. I NEED THE SPEED!
So, how does Final Cut Pro integrate into a system with AVID Film Composer. Can I send my HD's to California and they can just open them on their Final Cut Pro? AVID is an industry standard.
THis guy sounds more like a boutique studio and the article is really about midline editing. I'm talking ability to integrate with Hollywood. The standards are:
Non-Linear Editing: AVID Media/Film Composer
Audio Post: DigiDesign ProTools
THese are the apps I can guess will be in 90% of all professional facilities.
In the world of editing, for me PC's have the upper hand. One reason is AVID, the leader in pro editing, for instance. Even though I run the Matrox DigiSuite, I can read and write their files directly from an NTFS drive. In the pro world all oads lead to AVID and always will (interestingly, their sister company, DigiDesign, is THE pro audio application and it heavily favors the Mac).
But when it comes down to it, my problem with the Mac is one that many Apple fans have a problem with too: total power.
I mean, when you need to render that long composite you can get more horsepower on PC now, with the 3Mhz P4 ou specing the dual G4 1.25Mhz. In this biz speed is life.
Just a thought.
Thank you for your comments. The problem with makeing the CD-Enhanced compatible with multi-platforms is one of space an convienience. With only 250MBs to use on our CDs we, at this time, cannot handle it because of the need to put multiple copies of the total content. One CD-Enahnced I just did had 200MB of extras. Compared to th CD-Enhanced the majors do, ours rocks. This was a job for another label. It icludes a music video clip I directed, interview video, promo materials, and pages that show the lyrics of each song while the music plays.
A problem for us is cross platform solutions. We do use common formats for parts (such as Quicktime, PDF and so on) so you can view parts of it cross platform.
I am hoping to use flash to solve cross compatibility, however I need the discs to run without having to download or install anything. Do you have any good cross platform solutions. I'd like to hear them because reaching a wide audience is our goal.
We are just starting up now, but you can go to our site at http://www.pivotentertainment.com to find out about ou first artist.
In the article they said they will not be using the official CD-Audio logo because it does not follow the spec. They are trying to make a compatible CD with CD-Audio (Redbook). The logo gaurentees compatibility with all players. I guess they are telling us... NO PROMISES.
Oh, BTW: If they ask for money don't even bother. If they believe you are talented and can make them money they should not charge ANYTHING. If they do they are ripping people off and I cannot abide the action of these so-called labels.
We only accept solicited submissions, i.e. hearing a band at a gig. Other sumissions are junked because we are looking for artists with IT! We do not do compilations, and we have a very small roster where we are developing artists who are good.
I don't even bother to download mp3s of indie artists because most are badly recorded, or they may be a good singer but not a developed songwriter, or the other way around. Ratio of bad to good material too high
I believe that marketing is important as well, this is why we are teaming up with artists, not owning them. Those days are gone, but most artists must realize that as they develop they need to focus on strengths and we will help develop them in other areas. Such as, our artist Andread Alvarez can sing, dance, and interview. Over the last year she is learing, with he producer, to craft songs an lyrics.
Your response is just another jaded one, and I understand where you are coming from. We are doing it differently and we believe we will succeed by combining the talents of everyone, fairly.
If what you say is the truth, then you are not the average downloader of music. One person does not represent the majority.
I work in the industry. Sales are down. Look at the figures about internet sales recently released: overall internet sales are up significantly overall, but for CDs it has fallen 20%.
My company, Pivot Entertainment, believes that the industry has devauled the concept of the album by emphasizing singles and creating "throwaway" music. Back in the day I used to by new LPs because they were an album, not just a couple of good songs and bad filer. Plus artwork, poseters. All kinds of extras. We are releasing two album independently next year. We have 10 great songs on each, awesome packaging, CD-Enhanced bonuses which put the majors to shame. This is something people will want to own because it is a total package.
Until the industry fixes this, piracy is encouraged.
First off, as long as the CD plays in the CD Audio player the digital bitstream from the digital output should be pure.
I know that some soundcards have S/PDIF and/or optical inputs, especially those made for home music production. Many CD players have the outas as do all DVD players.
Of course, will these play in all audio CD Players. The lack of the CD Audio logo is a hint that it violates the Red Book specification.
That is called "expenses." All producs have them. IBM makes the CPU for the new Nintendo game system. Do they do this for free? If you open a hot dog stand, do you not have to buy the dos and the buns? You make it sound like MS is stupid for having expenses!
Fact is they pay these fees and their business plan includes them as expenses. Piracy steals MS's money to recoup the expense.
How does not wanting to lose money to pirates and creating a system wih fair play not benefit MS and the everyday users who do not use mods and actually purchase software?
All game systems since the SNES lose money on the sale of the game system itself. This includes PS/2. They make money on the sale of licensed products (games or hardware) and are trying to protect their investment.
To think this is some lark to test market some other product is stupid. This is about reclaiming their investment.
Look... MS is protecting their investment which you benefit from Each Xbox sold is done so at a loss and they make money from the selling of licensed games and add ons. Mod chips allow PIRACY through illegal "backups" that are traded or sold. This business model is why the Xbox, PS/2 and other games systems sell so cheaply, otherwise they would be selling for $600 or more.
MS is in the hole $177-million on Xboxes and you are all upset because they are protecting their investment and would like to make a profit? If you don't like the rules DON'T BUY THE PRODUCT.
And this has nothing to do with free speech. This has to do with viability and survival. Steal the games and Xbox goes away.
To me Mac is a poor choice. Talk about monolpoly: they are both OS and hardware. Who makes Macs? Only Apple, limiting competition and allowing them to demand premium pricing. Face it: Macs are overpriced for what they do.
Plus, Apple is notorious for upgrading their OS and leaving a trail of broken software to wait for updates. Even worse, they don't play fair with 3rd party hardware vendors. Such as with the iMovie. It will only write to the installed Apple DVD-R and refuses to work with 3rd party burners. When a retail outlet was giving a crack away to make it work, Apple wasted no time in hardlining them to stop.
How about Apple's hatred of LINUX due to the hacking of their proprietary ROMS to make LINUX boot on a Mac? Or the way they baited BeOS for purchase, instead bought NeXT and then basically forced BeOS off their platform.
I think OS X is a wonderful operating system. I just wish it ran on other platforms. And, BTW, does Apple really think you only need one mouse button???
I edit professional video on Windows 2000 via Matrox Digisuite. That and the apps like Adobe After Effects Production Bundle and Media Cleaner Pro have nothing even close to it on LINUX. Plus the games! Love the games!
Even though, with this EULA, I still made one click within SP1 and disabled auto-updating, including notification. Updates now only occur when, or if, I go to Windows update.
Seems to me that the new EULA covers their ass against lawsuits if data is lost due to a missed security update. "We told them they had to do it, your honor. Not our fault of the worm wiped the hard drive!"
"Security updates forced on them?" What??? They are not mandatory. In fact, I think it is great they are going back to fix old systems. Are you telling me that no upgrade for a LINUX distro has ever broken a program?
And if fixing a security proble breaks software, well, then the software was probably written to exploit an opening as a shortcut that is now closing, much like how Win 95/98 software that directly addressed hardware would not run on Win NT.
No one is worse than Apple with breaking software with each update. My god, each MacOS update that comes out we wait for a few months or more to be sure all the apps are updated and still run. We are sill waiting for Protools to run on OS X.
MS has done a vaery good job with this, and slowly migrating us from the 16-bit code.
That would be destruction of merchandise- a crime. Just don't buy them. DIVX (the Circuit City rental DVD, not the CODEC) died because of consumer rejection, so can this.
I had a chance to try a DVD video as part of a consumer test./.'ers will find the last part really interesting. It was called EZ DVD, and, upon contact with air, would begin self destructing until, within 72 hours, it would be unreadable.
My wife came home from the mall with a package of materials for a consumer test EZ DVD. It was a copy of "Kate and Leopold" (they had others but that was the wife's choice-- oh boy!). The questinnaire included what we thought of the quality (poor- no chapter stops, pan and scan), how much we would pay (I put $3.95 but they had up to like $7) etc.
Here is the whack part: I put it in my DVD-ROM. It would not play back correctly nor would DVD-Decryptor rip it. I put it back in the DVD-V player and it worked fine (it was suppsed to last 72 hours before destruction and it had only been about 3 hours). I don't know if this was a test of a new anti-copy device or a side effect of the disc's construction. Mysterious. Has anyone else tested the disc's as well?
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The prose to open the article states that Film GIMP is a movie editor, but that is wrong. It is not an AVID or DigiSuite or anything. The page it refers to says it if for retouching frames at 16-bits per color channel. Very cool for retouching (Adobe After Effects works in 8-bit space and can fake 10-bit cineon space for film). But does it do more?
What software does it compete against? Will it have plug-ins like After Effects or Combustion? Is it just for high-bit-resolution frame fixes? Does it have a time-line for effects over multiple frames or is the effects on a frame by frame basis?
So far I see very little info on its true useability. Anyone can answer my questions?
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It is obvliuos this plan would include the proper royalties to all parties concerened. Therefore this is NOT piracy, instead it is legitimate marketing of a product. Does it disturb you slashdotteres because they would, OH MY GOSH, dare to charge for the recording?
Do you really think Kazaa only remotely impinges on the entertainment industry??? That's the sole purpose of this software. Pirating music, movies and software.
I know this will be marked flamebait because the thought police who vote on such things for Slashdot will not like what I have to say. (Funny for a baord that talks about guarenteeing free speech uses such measure to supress thought they don't agree with them). Let me put it bluntly: you guys are on crack. How about if I need food I walk in your house and raid your fridge? Or if I need to go somewhere I steal your car. Does that sound any different than "I want to hear a song, let me download it wihout paying?"
People create entertainment and DO NOT deserve to be ripped off. If you don't like how much it costs, that it has region coding or macrovision or whatever, don't buy it. But please, don't justify stealing as free speech.
IMHO, the problem with Trek movies nowadays is that they are trying to copy what worked in the past instead of coming up with something original.
Case in point: Star Treks I-IV were all differerent. Nothing alike, some better than others, but at least each were orginal plots.
With Insurrection they wanted a light movie like Star Trek IV. They analyzed why that one worked so well, then got it all wrong and made a horrible movie. The first was a fish out of water story that what charming and humor cam from seeing these people from an advanced future trying to deal with 1986 San Fran, while Insurrection gave us pimple and boob jokes. All I hear about Nemesis is that it is very much like The Wrath of Khan, something they set out to emulate.
As for this being the worst, it cannot be as bad as Insurrection or Star Trek V. Those are the bottom of the barrel.
AVID is the standard. No major film or TV show is posted on Premiere or FCP or anything. It is the professional standard.
In the pro world editing is equally fast on any platform (real time dissolves, etc.). Professional video comes down to the math intensive stuff: After Effects or Commotions, for instance. I always do my compositing, titles and other work in After Effects. It does not work in real time, and on a dealine I need to get my renders done fast. So it is a processor intensive thing. If you are editing cuts, fine, speed is not the issue. But I just did a short comercial with fiftenn layers in After Effects, titles on that and a composite- it took eight hours on my 2Ghz machine. I NEED THE SPEED!
So, how does Final Cut Pro integrate into a system with AVID Film Composer. Can I send my HD's to California and they can just open them on their Final Cut Pro? AVID is an industry standard. THis guy sounds more like a boutique studio and the article is really about midline editing. I'm talking ability to integrate with Hollywood. The standards are: Non-Linear Editing: AVID Media/Film Composer Audio Post: DigiDesign ProTools THese are the apps I can guess will be in 90% of all professional facilities.
In the world of editing, for me PC's have the upper hand. One reason is AVID, the leader in pro editing, for instance. Even though I run the Matrox DigiSuite, I can read and write their files directly from an NTFS drive. In the pro world all oads lead to AVID and always will (interestingly, their sister company, DigiDesign, is THE pro audio application and it heavily favors the Mac). But when it comes down to it, my problem with the Mac is one that many Apple fans have a problem with too: total power. I mean, when you need to render that long composite you can get more horsepower on PC now, with the 3Mhz P4 ou specing the dual G4 1.25Mhz. In this biz speed is life. Just a thought.
Thank you for your comments. The problem with makeing the CD-Enhanced compatible with multi-platforms is one of space an convienience. With only 250MBs to use on our CDs we, at this time, cannot handle it because of the need to put multiple copies of the total content. One CD-Enahnced I just did had 200MB of extras. Compared to th CD-Enhanced the majors do, ours rocks. This was a job for another label. It icludes a music video clip I directed, interview video, promo materials, and pages that show the lyrics of each song while the music plays.
A problem for us is cross platform solutions. We do use common formats for parts (such as Quicktime, PDF and so on) so you can view parts of it cross platform.
I am hoping to use flash to solve cross compatibility, however I need the discs to run without having to download or install anything. Do you have any good cross platform solutions. I'd like to hear them because reaching a wide audience is our goal.
We are just starting up now, but you can go to our site at http://www.pivotentertainment.com to find out about ou first artist.
In the article they said they will not be using the official CD-Audio logo because it does not follow the spec. They are trying to make a compatible CD with CD-Audio (Redbook). The logo gaurentees compatibility with all players. I guess they are telling us... NO PROMISES.
Oh, BTW: If they ask for money don't even bother. If they believe you are talented and can make them money they should not charge ANYTHING. If they do they are ripping people off and I cannot abide the action of these so-called labels.
We only accept solicited submissions, i.e. hearing a band at a gig. Other sumissions are junked because we are looking for artists with IT! We do not do compilations, and we have a very small roster where we are developing artists who are good.
I don't even bother to download mp3s of indie artists because most are badly recorded, or they may be a good singer but not a developed songwriter, or the other way around. Ratio of bad to good material too high
I believe that marketing is important as well, this is why we are teaming up with artists, not owning them. Those days are gone, but most artists must realize that as they develop they need to focus on strengths and we will help develop them in other areas. Such as, our artist Andread Alvarez can sing, dance, and interview. Over the last year she is learing, with he producer, to craft songs an lyrics.
Your response is just another jaded one, and I understand where you are coming from. We are doing it differently and we believe we will succeed by combining the talents of everyone, fairly.
If what you say is the truth, then you are not the average downloader of music. One person does not represent the majority.
I work in the industry. Sales are down. Look at the figures about internet sales recently released: overall internet sales are up significantly overall, but for CDs it has fallen 20%.
My company, Pivot Entertainment, believes that the industry has devauled the concept of the album by emphasizing singles and creating "throwaway" music. Back in the day I used to by new LPs because they were an album, not just a couple of good songs and bad filer. Plus artwork, poseters. All kinds of extras. We are releasing two album independently next year. We have 10 great songs on each, awesome packaging, CD-Enhanced bonuses which put the majors to shame. This is something people will want to own because it is a total package.
Until the industry fixes this, piracy is encouraged.
First off, as long as the CD plays in the CD Audio player the digital bitstream from the digital output should be pure. I know that some soundcards have S/PDIF and/or optical inputs, especially those made for home music production. Many CD players have the outas as do all DVD players. Of course, will these play in all audio CD Players. The lack of the CD Audio logo is a hint that it violates the Red Book specification.
That is called "expenses." All producs have them. IBM makes the CPU for the new Nintendo game system. Do they do this for free? If you open a hot dog stand, do you not have to buy the dos and the buns? You make it sound like MS is stupid for having expenses!
Fact is they pay these fees and their business plan includes them as expenses. Piracy steals MS's money to recoup the expense.
How does not wanting to lose money to pirates and creating a system wih fair play not benefit MS and the everyday users who do not use mods and actually purchase software?
You can do whatever you want to it. Put a mod chip in. Just don't expect to play your pirated hacked games on Xbox Live.
You don't like the rules, don't buy the product.
All game systems since the SNES lose money on the sale of the game system itself. This includes PS/2. They make money on the sale of licensed products (games or hardware) and are trying to protect their investment.
To think this is some lark to test market some other product is stupid. This is about reclaiming their investment.
Look... MS is protecting their investment which you benefit from Each Xbox sold is done so at a loss and they make money from the selling of licensed games and add ons. Mod chips allow PIRACY through illegal "backups" that are traded or sold. This business model is why the Xbox, PS/2 and other games systems sell so cheaply, otherwise they would be selling for $600 or more.
MS is in the hole $177-million on Xboxes and you are all upset because they are protecting their investment and would like to make a profit? If you don't like the rules DON'T BUY THE PRODUCT.
And this has nothing to do with free speech. This has to do with viability and survival. Steal the games and Xbox goes away.
To me Mac is a poor choice. Talk about monolpoly: they are both OS and hardware. Who makes Macs? Only Apple, limiting competition and allowing them to demand premium pricing. Face it: Macs are overpriced for what they do.
Plus, Apple is notorious for upgrading their OS and leaving a trail of broken software to wait for updates. Even worse, they don't play fair with 3rd party hardware vendors. Such as with the iMovie. It will only write to the installed Apple DVD-R and refuses to work with 3rd party burners. When a retail outlet was giving a crack away to make it work, Apple wasted no time in hardlining them to stop.
How about Apple's hatred of LINUX due to the hacking of their proprietary ROMS to make LINUX boot on a Mac? Or the way they baited BeOS for purchase, instead bought NeXT and then basically forced BeOS off their platform.
I think OS X is a wonderful operating system. I just wish it ran on other platforms. And, BTW, does Apple really think you only need one mouse button???
I edit professional video on Windows 2000 via Matrox Digisuite. That and the apps like Adobe After Effects Production Bundle and Media Cleaner Pro have nothing even close to it on LINUX. Plus the games! Love the games!
Even though, with this EULA, I still made one click within SP1 and disabled auto-updating, including notification. Updates now only occur when, or if, I go to Windows update. Seems to me that the new EULA covers their ass against lawsuits if data is lost due to a missed security update. "We told them they had to do it, your honor. Not our fault of the worm wiped the hard drive!"
"Security updates forced on them?" What??? They are not mandatory. In fact, I think it is great they are going back to fix old systems. Are you telling me that no upgrade for a LINUX distro has ever broken a program? And if fixing a security proble breaks software, well, then the software was probably written to exploit an opening as a shortcut that is now closing, much like how Win 95/98 software that directly addressed hardware would not run on Win NT. No one is worse than Apple with breaking software with each update. My god, each MacOS update that comes out we wait for a few months or more to be sure all the apps are updated and still run. We are sill waiting for Protools to run on OS X. MS has done a vaery good job with this, and slowly migrating us from the 16-bit code.
That would be destruction of merchandise- a crime. Just don't buy them. DIVX (the Circuit City rental DVD, not the CODEC) died because of consumer rejection, so can this.
I had a chance to try a DVD video as part of a consumer test. /.'ers will find the last part really interesting. It was called EZ DVD, and, upon contact with air, would begin self destructing until, within 72 hours, it would be unreadable.
My wife came home from the mall with a package of materials for a consumer test EZ DVD. It was a copy of "Kate and Leopold" (they had others but that was the wife's choice-- oh boy!). The questinnaire included what we thought of the quality (poor- no chapter stops, pan and scan), how much we would pay (I put $3.95 but they had up to like $7) etc.
Here is the whack part: I put it in my DVD-ROM. It would not play back correctly nor would DVD-Decryptor rip it. I put it back in the DVD-V player and it worked fine (it was suppsed to last 72 hours before destruction and it had only been about 3 hours). I don't know if this was a test of a new anti-copy device or a side effect of the disc's construction. Mysterious. Has anyone else tested the disc's as well?
The prose to open the article states that Film GIMP is a movie editor, but that is wrong. It is not an AVID or DigiSuite or anything. The page it refers to says it if for retouching frames at 16-bits per color channel. Very cool for retouching (Adobe After Effects works in 8-bit space and can fake 10-bit cineon space for film). But does it do more?
What software does it compete against? Will it have plug-ins like After Effects or Combustion? Is it just for high-bit-resolution frame fixes? Does it have a time-line for effects over multiple frames or is the effects on a frame by frame basis?
So far I see very little info on its true useability. Anyone can answer my questions?