It's amazing that during an election year that I've yet to hear one thing from Dean or Bush about this. Is everyone bought and paid for?
I honestly think that a lot of the current commentators are dead on when they say that this is a "fad" and this will eventually balance itself out. Wait until some corporations get a gut full of having their code halfway across the globe. Most companies aren't willing to let you work at home and yet they're willing to hire hoards of people they'll never meet to write their code? Heh. This will right itself eventually.
You can bleat and complain as much as you want about the effectiveness of academic training, but the power of the diploma is well-established in job hunting.
It's been my long experience that employers who would hire primarily for academic accomplishments are advertising the fact that they don't have the ability to evaluate you straightup. An employer like that is difficult to work for because it's very difficult to communicate with them.
<BLOCKQUOTE>Besides, college is fun and is often a good place to mature and improve other important social skills.</BLOCKQUOTE>
Hell, you can get all that at your neighborhood bar without having to spend $10k a year.
You're really not answering his question though. I've yet to hear some skills that you can train for that are mildly interesting that are guaranteed not to be shipped off to India.
Offshoring is NOT just affecting IT, it's also: - CPAs - Lawyers - Radiologists.etc., etc., etc.
I would think there would be a lot of potential in Nanotechnology, but why wouldn't that be shipped off as well?
I find it hard to swallow that there aren't more and more valuable scholarships to encourage growth in the tech sector.
Take a number junior. We work in the field and are unhappy there isn't growth in the tech sector.;-) Consider applying for a tech scholarship from an Indian company, they must be drowning in "loose" dollars.;-)
<blockquote> and even fewer that don't give a paltry one-time prize of $500 or less.</blockquote>
Dude, that's the entire domestic IT budget for IBM. What do you expect?;-)
Consider flat out deception - tell an executive at IBM, Hewlett-Packard, etc., that you have Indian connections, you'll be able to skip school and go straight into the Board Room.;-)
Thank you! Finally, someone clarified the issue. It's amazing how many people are waving the Usenet flag around in this thread and that is an apples and oranges comparison.
Usenet is basically dead. Everyone has moved to forums.
It's interesting that no one has written software to syphon off new forum posts from all the forums you frequent so you can read them all in one place like Usenet software did.
/. ran a story about this very thing from IBM's R&D who also came to the same conclusion.
Honestly, it's hard to believe that it took PHD "rocket scientists" to come to the conclusion that email is probably better interfaced as a forum. We've all known that for years. It's also hard to understand why there aren't "big name" email clients that already support that kind of interface.
Thinking of Microsoft's offering in this area, it would be nice if they automatically emailed the author of the worm that ravaged your system so you could conduct a forum-interfaced conversation with the person. Kinda like an auto-Friendster between worm-authors and worm-targets.;-)
SafariShane needs to turn around and hack back in to the system in a week and show that the new company's security measures weren't that great.;-) This will ingratiate himself with the CEO and get the new company kicked out.
Question #1 - Mr. Szulik, I am a desktop user of Red Hat, and your recent emphasis on Enterprise-level Linux leads me to ask if you know where I can get the best price on a copy of Windows XP?
The first clue you're being paid too much is when you start building castles instead of homes.;-)
It's disingenous to include "CEO's of underperforming companies" when you can't include the man who's in charge of software technology for Microsoft and the whole thing is riddled with security issues. I'd say he's being paid a bit too much with that track record.
I purchased a Black-and-White Sidekick day **1** when they started selling. I never had one problem with that unit and carry it with me (and use it!) every waking moment.
I purchased a Color Sidekick about a month after they were available. Same story. Not one problem.
I have no idea what a person has to do to a Sidekick to cause it go out. Keep in mind that you can't do the following with a Sidekick and you'll be okay: 1) You can't roll a motorcycle with a Sidekick on your belt and expect it to work. 2) You can't jump out of an airplane and land on your Sidekick and expect it to work. 3) You can't operate a Jackhammer all day with a Sidekick on your belt and expect it to work.;-)
I keep waiting for a device that has the functionality of my T-Mobile Sidekick (IM, email, web browsing, phone, scheduler, notes, etc.) that is as thoughtfully made (screen flips up to reveal a solid thumb-board and every bit of data I enter is automatically backed up on T-Mobile's servers) that is anywhere close to the price point ($300).
I bet this Nokia device is plenty expensive and I could send out an email 10 times faster with my Sidekick thumb-board than you could peck one out with the stylus on this device (if you could find your stylus;-) ).
http://www.t-mobile.com/products/overview.asp?ph on eid=195184
The company "also unveiled 'WinFX,' which it described as a new application programming model for Windows that is the evolution of its.NET programming framework.
GEEZ! Just when the.Net rewrite was just getting underway!
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It's amazing that during an election year that I've yet to hear one thing from Dean or Bush about this. Is everyone bought and paid for?
I honestly think that a lot of the current commentators are dead on when they say that this is a "fad" and this will eventually balance itself out. Wait until some corporations get a gut full of having their code halfway across the globe. Most companies aren't willing to let you work at home and yet they're willing to hire hoards of people they'll never meet to write their code? Heh. This will right itself eventually.
It's been my long experience that employers who would hire primarily for academic accomplishments are advertising the fact that they don't have the ability to evaluate you straightup. An employer like that is difficult to work for because it's very difficult to communicate with them.
<BLOCKQUOTE>Besides, college is fun and is often a good place to mature and improve other important social skills.</BLOCKQUOTE>
Hell, you can get all that at your neighborhood bar without having to spend $10k a year.
You're really not answering his question though. I've yet to hear some skills that you can train for that are mildly interesting that are guaranteed not to be shipped off to India.
.etc., etc., etc.
Offshoring is NOT just affecting IT, it's also:
- CPAs
- Lawyers
- Radiologists
I would think there would be a lot of potential in Nanotechnology, but why wouldn't that be shipped off as well?
So true. So true.
Take a number junior. We work in the field and are unhappy there isn't growth in the tech sector.
<blockquote> and even fewer that don't give a paltry one-time prize of $500 or less.</blockquote>
Dude, that's the entire domestic IT budget for IBM. What do you expect?
Consider flat out deception - tell an executive at IBM, Hewlett-Packard, etc., that you have Indian connections, you'll be able to skip school and go straight into the Board Room.
There was some?
Huh. This should make for a tiny featurette.
Thank you! Finally, someone clarified the issue. It's amazing how many people are waving the Usenet flag around in this thread and that is an apples and oranges comparison.
A butt is a terrible place to store a head.
Usenet is basically dead. Everyone has moved to forums.
It's interesting that no one has written software to syphon off new forum posts from all the forums you frequent so you can read them all in one place like Usenet software did.
That would be some mega-useful software.
/. ran a story about this very thing from IBM's R&D who also came to the same conclusion.
;-)
Honestly, it's hard to believe that it took PHD "rocket scientists" to come to the conclusion that email is probably better interfaced as a forum. We've all known that for years. It's also hard to understand why there aren't "big name" email clients that already support that kind of interface.
Thinking of Microsoft's offering in this area, it would be nice if they automatically emailed the author of the worm that ravaged your system so you could conduct a forum-interfaced conversation with the person. Kinda like an auto-Friendster between worm-authors and worm-targets.
SafariShane needs to turn around and hack back in to the system in a week and show that the new company's security measures weren't that great. ;-) This will ingratiate himself with the CEO and get the new company kicked out.
;-)
Problem solved.
WTF does this mean? Can someone translate this to English?
PHB = Pointy Hair Boss?
LOL!!!
Question #1 - Mr. Szulik, I am a desktop user of Red Hat, and your recent emphasis on Enterprise-level Linux leads me to ask if you know where I can get the best price on a copy of Windows XP?
The first clue you're being paid too much is when you start building castles instead of homes. ;-)
It's disingenous to include "CEO's of underperforming companies" when you can't include the man who's in charge of software technology for Microsoft and the whole thing is riddled with security issues. I'd say he's being paid a bit too much with that track record.
Keep in mind that satisfied people don't post!
;-)
I purchased a Black-and-White Sidekick day **1** when they started selling. I never had one problem with that unit and carry it with me (and use it!) every waking moment.
I purchased a Color Sidekick about a month after they were available. Same story. Not one problem.
I have no idea what a person has to do to a Sidekick to cause it go out. Keep in mind that you can't do the following with a Sidekick and you'll be okay:
1) You can't roll a motorcycle with a Sidekick on your belt and expect it to work.
2) You can't jump out of an airplane and land on your Sidekick and expect it to work.
3) You can't operate a Jackhammer all day with a Sidekick on your belt and expect it to work.
Sync software exists *today*.
That is certainly rude of T-Mobile. No question.
How could the Meca of the telecom industry - the Carolinas - not offer any device?????
Fair enough. How much did your Clie cost?
*cough* *cough*
"The official Microsoft Longhorn Developers website went live."
Must not be running Longhorn.
I keep waiting for a device that has the functionality of my T-Mobile Sidekick (IM, email, web browsing, phone, scheduler, notes, etc.) that is as thoughtfully made (screen flips up to reveal a solid thumb-board and every bit of data I enter is automatically backed up on T-Mobile's servers) that is anywhere close to the price point ($300).
;-) ).
h on eid=195184
I bet this Nokia device is plenty expensive and I could send out an email 10 times faster with my Sidekick thumb-board than you could peck one out with the stylus on this device (if you could find your stylus
http://www.t-mobile.com/products/overview.asp?p
The company "also unveiled 'WinFX,' which it described as a new application programming model for Windows that is the evolution of its .NET programming framework.
.Net rewrite was just getting underway!
GEEZ! Just when the
"building apps that are as smart as Outlook."
I was hoping they'd shoot higher than that.
Geez, lighten up. :-)
:-( You got the point though.
I even tried using Google to find the correct spelling and couldn't.
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