India used to be a country occupied by British rule, British law, and British soveriegnty. But it isn't that way anymore. Wanna know why?
A guy named Ghandi told all of his friends that they didn't need guns, or laws, or revolution to win thier country back...all they needed to do was passively resist the british. That is...all they needed to do was ignore everything the british said.
That was exactly what they did...by the millions...do you think the British had the resources to jail 10,000,000 people? Nope...and the rest is history.
If we could carry http over a P2P layer most of what you're asking for would be delivered...
But there's another problem here. Intelligence and morality are not always(or even often) found in the same person.
I was interviewing with Cox Communications a few months ago, in thier high speed internet division. The guy who interviewed me(a slashdot readin geek btw) made it perfectly clear that his primary responsibility was to defend the Cox EULA. That is, if some dickless corporate schmuck told him to disallow all file-sharing programs used by thier customers....he would have no ethical problem doing that.
In the interview I told him that I was sharing my DSL line with my neighbor, because she just checks her e-mail once in a while. He stared at me coldy and told me that I was most likely breaking my DSL EULA, and he would shut me down if I was a COX customer....needless to say the interview went pretty south from there.
Now, these are the kinds of geeks who are succesful in the telecom world today...and I'm sure there are even worse people in the business. I'm beginning to think that it's a mistake to believe that it's Bill Gates vs "the rest of us"...there seems to be a large number of geeks who put thier pocketbook well before the "common good" of the internet community.
So how do you propose to build a network that "keeps out" the "dumbass politicians and greedy politicians" when all they need to do is hire one of these plentiful soulless greedy geeks?
Yep, too bad we don't have a way of dynamically caching web sites on P2P.
Will someone please think this up? Everyone should share the load equally...then we don't have to worry about satisfying all these marketing assholes for ad revenue to pay to keep our websites up!
If we all had symmetric broadband, and huge harddrives(which we will have very very soon), and just ONE DECENTLY BUILT NON-COMMERCIAL ANONYMOUS P2P SERVICE all of these problems would be a thing of the past...and we'd finally have OUR internet back again.
The way this works is, you mandate formats, not applications
Sure, but how do you expect to do that? There seems be any number of commitees and agencies that regulate things like traffic laws, public safety, pollution, economic policy, etc, etc...but where are our representatives?
Lawyers and finance people regulate business and anti-trust laws(supposedly), the Fed hires economists with Phds to make economic policy etc...but can anyone name a single government appointed/empowered commitee of computer scientists?
The only way you can make a "standard format" mandate is if you have:
1) A commitee of qualified and un-biased experts making the decisions as to what should or should not be allowed. 2) That commitee has to be empowered to enforce thier determination.
As far as I can tell, and please someone correct me if I'm wrong, we have niether of these two things established in this country.
What's the point of people like Bruce Perens saying what makes sense to almost all of us...if there's no infrastructure in place to make it a reality? Do you really think the governent cares two cents about what the IEEE thinks is "the right thing to do"? How do you expect this stuff to happen without representation in government?...sorry if I sound cynical, but I'm honestly asking can anyone give a concrete example to the contrary?
I agree...but can we please rename it to something a little more paletable?
When I see OGG I think of a cross between egg-nog and a sound I make to I clear my throat...it's nasty...MP3 has a much better ring about it.
I know this shouldn't matter...but when you're talking to your friends on the street, do you really want to tell them about all the OGG's you downloaded last night?
Then we'll start seeing OGG players called, over-easy, sunny side up, and scrambled ogg....it'll never end.
Please hire that marketing guy you knew in college and name it something we call all say without blushing.
You're just noticing this? Not that I disagree with most of it, but you're neglecting a minor point-- Most of the R&D is "made in the USA" when it comes to technology, and farmed out to foreign markets for production. And just for something to chew on, who developed the technology for the CPU in your computer? Your high end graphics card? Who has been the leader in computer developemnt and innovation for the last few decades?
Even more scary is the consequence of this. It implies that the primary source of income in this country is intellectual property.
We have the whole debacle with the RIAA and MPAA, whose sole mission in life is to save thier IP. You have companies like Merck and Phizer, who spend billions each year on research, which results is nothing more spectacular than a drug 'recipe'. And then of course, there's the technology sector. But it's not just our technology ideas we're farming out to foriegn manufactures, it's also previous generation manufacturing.
No wonder the trade defecit is growing so fast. The only thing we are exporting is ideas.
We import the smartest people from all over the world to go to school and work here, and they make ideas. The ideas are then patented, and sent outside the US for production.
Many of us are staunchly opposed to the way IP is affecting software and the internet. P2P being outlawed, fake mp3s in circulation, lawsuits etc....we embrace the open-source philosophy, but considering what the US economy is based on, this could be a very dangerous precedent for all of us.
What if we did succeed, and we all got what we wished for? Perfect encryption....100Mbs in every home...100Tb harddrives...seamless P2P filesharing technology...
Surely our technology, software, pharmaceudical, and entertainment "IP" would enter into the public domain. I.e. instantly downloadable from anywhere in the world.
To enjoy all that pr0n you also need to overcome your superparamasturbatic limit.
Yes, by all means, will someone please conduct this research? It's becoming increasingly clear that pr0n consumers will not be able to keep up with production!
I don't need a larger penis(much), what I really need is a 1 to 4 penis adapter so I can keep up with all this porn!(hmm, guess I'll need two extra hands while were at it, but anything is possible with good science!)
While I appreciate the link, it ignores the problem.
We need to incorporate privacy protection at a very low level, like a service layer in the TCP/IP stack. That way everyone can be certain to remain anonymous unless they choose otherwise
What's the point of using privacy software if only 1% of the population knows how to use it? That just makes the 1% of us who can use it completely trackable. I mean, it's like a red flag. Next thing you know Ashcroft will be claiming that the use of public encryption is "due cause" for suspicion.
Unless we gaurentee a right to privacy for everyone, none of us will have it.
DirectX is even worse. DirectX is a versitile wrapper utility for game developers, allowing shops like Blizzard to build games faster and cheaper than ever before. Which game publishers like because it means more profits for them.
Unfortunately this translates into requiring the latest version of DirectX in order to play the newest games. Naturally, Microsoft is only supporting DirectX for Windows.
Many of us NT folks were pissed as hell to learn that MS no longer supported DirectX on windowsNT. This effectively meant that gamers using NT had to upgrade to XP in order to play new games.
If that's not a monopoly leveraging its influence, I don't know what is.
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India used to be a country occupied by British rule, British law, and British soveriegnty. But it isn't that way anymore. Wanna know why?
A guy named Ghandi told all of his friends that they didn't need guns, or laws, or revolution to win thier country back...all they needed to do was passively resist the british. That is...all they needed to do was ignore everything the british said.
That was exactly what they did...by the millions...do you think the British had the resources to jail 10,000,000 people? Nope...and the rest is history.
It's that simple, and it will work for us too.
Man you're a turd, if I had the money I'd bail John Walker out of jail and give him a gun so he can shoot your ass dead.
American trash.
Actually, the wave of the future was supposed to be the internet.
You know, buy/sell, shop, work, socialize online...too bad 99% of the population belongs in the 1800s somewhere.
If we could carry http over a P2P layer most of what you're asking for would be delivered...
But there's another problem here. Intelligence and morality are not always(or even often) found in the same person.
I was interviewing with Cox Communications a few months ago, in thier high speed internet division. The guy who interviewed me(a slashdot readin geek btw) made it perfectly clear that his primary responsibility was to defend the Cox EULA. That is, if some dickless corporate schmuck told him to disallow all file-sharing programs used by thier customers....he would have no ethical problem doing that.
In the interview I told him that I was sharing my DSL line with my neighbor, because she just checks her e-mail once in a while. He stared at me coldy and told me that I was most likely breaking my DSL EULA, and he would shut me down if I was a COX customer....needless to say the interview went pretty south from there.
Now, these are the kinds of geeks who are succesful in the telecom world today...and I'm sure there are even worse people in the business. I'm beginning to think that it's a mistake to believe that it's Bill Gates vs "the rest of us"...there seems to be a large number of geeks who put thier pocketbook well before the "common good" of the internet community.
So how do you propose to build a network that "keeps out" the "dumbass politicians and greedy politicians" when all they need to do is hire one of these plentiful soulless greedy geeks?
Yep, too bad we don't have a way of dynamically caching web sites on P2P.
Will someone please think this up? Everyone should share the load equally...then we don't have to worry about satisfying all these marketing assholes for ad revenue to pay to keep our websites up!
If we all had symmetric broadband, and huge harddrives(which we will have very very soon), and just ONE DECENTLY BUILT NON-COMMERCIAL ANONYMOUS P2P SERVICE all of these problems would be a thing of the past...and we'd finally have OUR internet back again.
*cough* P2P *cough*
Yep, this is why the future of web content is P2P also.
Goodbye slashdot effect.
Downfall? What world are you living in?
I mean seriously guys...this is some pretty funny shit. Here's a screenshot of thier site after it was hacked:
JPG of RIAA with pants around ankes
I particularly like the "Where can I find information on giant monkeys"
So umm, once again, why is this being ignored?
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that the RIAA website is now new and improved?
Been getting phonecalls from the RIAA lawyers Rob? Why is this on the front page of Yahoo News, but not on Slashdot?
Wow...ya...err...hrmm
Sure, but how do you expect to do that? There seems be any number of commitees and agencies that regulate things like traffic laws, public safety, pollution, economic policy, etc, etc...but where are our representatives?
Lawyers and finance people regulate business and anti-trust laws(supposedly), the Fed hires economists with Phds to make economic policy etc...but can anyone name a single government appointed/empowered commitee of computer scientists?
The only way you can make a "standard format" mandate is if you have:
1) A commitee of qualified and un-biased experts making the decisions as to what should or should not be allowed.
2) That commitee has to be empowered to enforce thier determination.
As far as I can tell, and please someone correct me if I'm wrong, we have niether of these two things established in this country.
What's the point of people like Bruce Perens saying what makes sense to almost all of us...if there's no infrastructure in place to make it a reality? Do you really think the governent cares two cents about what the IEEE thinks is "the right thing to do"? How do you expect this stuff to happen without representation in government?
I agree...but can we please rename it to something a little more paletable?
When I see OGG I think of a cross between egg-nog and a sound I make to I clear my throat...it's nasty...MP3 has a much better ring about it.
I know this shouldn't matter...but when you're talking to your friends on the street, do you really want to tell them about all the OGG's you downloaded last night?
Then we'll start seeing OGG players called, over-easy, sunny side up, and scrambled ogg....it'll never end.
Please hire that marketing guy you knew in college and name it something we call all say without blushing.
Even more scary is the consequence of this. It implies that the primary source of income in this country is intellectual property.
We have the whole debacle with the RIAA and MPAA, whose sole mission in life is to save thier IP. You have companies like Merck and Phizer, who spend billions each year on research, which results is nothing more spectacular than a drug 'recipe'. And then of course, there's the technology sector. But it's not just our technology ideas we're farming out to foriegn manufactures, it's also previous generation manufacturing.
No wonder the trade defecit is growing so fast. The only thing we are exporting is ideas.
We import the smartest people from all over the world to go to school and work here, and they make ideas. The ideas are then patented, and sent outside the US for production.
Many of us are staunchly opposed to the way IP is affecting software and the internet. P2P being outlawed, fake mp3s in circulation, lawsuits etc....we embrace the open-source philosophy, but considering what the US economy is based on, this could be a very dangerous precedent for all of us.
What if we did succeed, and we all got what we wished for? Perfect encryption....100Mbs in every home...100Tb harddrives...seamless P2P filesharing technology...
Surely our technology, software, pharmaceudical, and entertainment "IP" would enter into the public domain. I.e. instantly downloadable from anywhere in the world.
Wouldn't this nullify the US economy?
I don't need a larger penis(much), what I really need is a 1 to 4 penis adapter so I can keep up with all this porn!(hmm, guess I'll need two extra hands while were at it, but anything is possible with good science!)
1) Go find a butcher knife in your kitchen, and bury it in your yard.
2) After about 3 weeks, go dig it up. Make sure it's very rusty...else try step 1 again.
3) Plunge the blade into your godless heart.
While I appreciate the link, it ignores the problem.
We need to incorporate privacy protection at a very low level, like a service layer in the TCP/IP stack. That way everyone can be certain to remain anonymous unless they choose otherwise
What's the point of using privacy software if only 1% of the population knows how to use it? That just makes the 1% of us who can use it completely trackable. I mean, it's like a red flag. Next thing you know Ashcroft will be claiming that the use of public encryption is "due cause" for suspicion.
Unless we gaurentee a right to privacy for everyone, none of us will have it.
Anyone else smell the RIAA on this?
I mean, why wouldn't they buy the rights on the MP3 format, and then pull a stunt like this?
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
They're trying to take The SlashDot Effect(tm) out of our vernacular!
On the flip side, once that happens we can start talking frankly about P2P.
Ya, let's just ignore the other 99% of the population.
After all, stupid people don't deserve privacy right?
What's port 443?
- 99% of the people with a computer on thier desk.
Will you Unix snobs get off your asses and build an SWeb for the other 99% of us to use?
DirectX is even worse. DirectX is a versitile wrapper utility for game developers, allowing shops like Blizzard to build games faster and cheaper than ever before. Which game publishers like because it means more profits for them.
Unfortunately this translates into requiring the latest version of DirectX in order to play the newest games. Naturally, Microsoft is only supporting DirectX for Windows.
Many of us NT folks were pissed as hell to learn that MS no longer supported DirectX on windowsNT. This effectively meant that gamers using NT had to upgrade to XP in order to play new games.
If that's not a monopoly leveraging its influence, I don't know what is.