You mean the other 40% who are deliberately excluding themselves by vowing to vote it down regardless of the contents?
Those 40%?
The 40% that just so happen to coincidentally be Republicans. Funny that.
Joe Liberman may be a festering, infected boil on Satan's cock, in the vice-like-employment of the insurance industry, but at least he is coming to the table to discuss how to destroy the bill. The Repubs aren't even doing that.
I believe it does, since I've never heard anyone specifically distinguish between mpeg and mpeg-ps, and I've never met an mpeg (1) file I couldn't play, although I don't come across them often. We did have one client who specifically wanted a series of clips to be in mpeg1 format for backwards compatibility with their current systems and we had no issues with it in Quicktime, so whatever codecs Apple ships with the player by default worked just fine.
No, I'm claiming that Quicktime on its own can play mpeg files, which has been the case for any Mac I have ever owned (even ones without FCP installed).
It won't play mpeg2 files without the extra codec from apple, that is installed either via FCP, or buy buying it standalone (or getting it from perian).
And I believe you on the Windows 7 codecs - I just haven't personally used it. My experiences with Windows stop at XP with a little bit of Vista Home basic.
Probably some people. The point is that it is available for Windows users if they want it (or forced on them if they want to use an iPod or iPhone, depending on who you ask), thus it is being actively developed for platforms other than Mac by Apple, which is a far cry from "slapping an i in front of the name and making it Mac only" as the GP asserts Apple would do "in the best case scenario".
I worked in the professional video field for 5 years - when I say quicktime played back mpeg2 and mpeg files, that's what I mean - files the end with the extension mpg and mp2, as generated by Compressor right out of FCP exports.
Quicktime supports the mpeg container.
If Windows 7 ships with mpeg2 playback that is finally good news - like you said, XP and earlier did not, so if you added an OEM DVD drive you could not play DVDs unless you purchased a DVD playing app (or one came bundled with the drive). If you bought a machine with a drive already in it then it usually shipped with PowerDVD or some other third party software that provided the mp2 playback.
I know it doesn't do hardware acceleration (not supported at all in OS X yet) but I used to shoot and edit 1080i material (circa 2007/8) in XDCAM HD and it works just fine, and that's the XDCAM HD raw, AIC, H.264 and HDV formats.
The mpeg2 codec for quicktime costs extra from Apple (license issue, even though the DVD player app that ships with OS X plays mpeg2 already, crazy) - Windows does not come with native mpeg2 playback either for the same license reason.
Hardware accelerated video is a relatively new phenomenon outside of niche applications (like the old school Media 100 system I used to work on - 300Mhz of mayhem with hardware acceleration), and if it's not addressed soon I'm sure there will be problems, but right now it's not the be all and end all unless you're trying to make a media box with a beefy card and weak CPU - I expect the issue will be sorted when the Apple TV finally gets updated.
I'm sorry, but they're not dropping OS X support, they just have no one in the current project to handle that side of it, hence asking for more manpower.
If Microsoft puts an advert in the paper asking for more developers for Windows do you assume that they are dropping support for Windows?
Also, if you really are a "longtime programmer of many languages" then Obj-C really shouldn't be much of a stretch for you. It's not like it's written in Latin.
Your thinly veiled Apple bash post has been exposed I'm afraid.
A friend of mine has well over 1TB of legit mp3 files (made from years of CDs, tapes and LPs) on a server in his garage and iTunes handles them just fine. So does iTunes on his wife's Macbook.
The iPod naming scheme was irrelevant - it was never designed to work as a mass storage device as far as your music was concerned (ie, you didn't need to see how the thing was storing the music to use it - you set it up in iTunes and it would handle that for you. The obfuscation was probably all that was needed to placate the music industry at the time (in talks for iTMS for a long time remember), but was trivial to overcome if you needed to). It was never about being "superior", and no one ever claimed it was. You have just decided that was the reason to justify your position.
You really don't understand just what Quicktime is, but suffice to say it's not just a media player (take a look at the codebase for it sometime), and it can be easily extended with multiple different formats just like VLC or Mplayer - What you use for your front end is up to you of course, but your assertion that Quicktime is absolute rubbish is just not accurate.
There are many ways to burn CDs on the Mac without using commercial software - for one thing, it is built into the OS, but there are open source projects that also do burning on OS X and have for a long time.
Perian adds all of those codecs that you claim is "not easy" to add support for. A few clicks and it's installed. Log out and back in again at the installer's suggestion (not essential) and the job is done.
Not sure what your issue is with HD h.264 content - works just fine for me (HD files created from XDCAM HD source material, YMMV).
Divx support is easily added via perian, or using the standalone DivX installer from their main website - not sure how you didn't find that.
To force a change to stick regarding the "open with" command, that's one of those Finder quirks. I always set this by using Get Info (command+i) on a file and then changing the default there, and selecting "apply to all files of this type". If the Finder crashes for any reason before this preference is saved it may not stick - logging out and back in will save it.
Quicktime itself is far from crap. It has problems, like any media player, but it has been improved gradually over time. The newest incarnation (Quicktime X) has been totally rewritten, and I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but fortunately QT Player 7 stays around if you prefer to use the more familiar version (or you have plugins that depend on it).
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Well, I think he can have this one, since the entire budget is 1 day's worth of combat in Iraq.
If he tells the US military to go on holiday for a week in Iraq he can fund this 7 times over.
You mean the other 40% who are deliberately excluding themselves by vowing to vote it down regardless of the contents?
Those 40%?
The 40% that just so happen to coincidentally be Republicans. Funny that.
Joe Liberman may be a festering, infected boil on Satan's cock, in the vice-like-employment of the insurance industry, but at least he is coming to the table to discuss how to destroy the bill. The Repubs aren't even doing that.
Although to be pedantic, methane doesn't smell.
The purest farts are silent, and not deadly, unless lit.
I believe it does, since I've never heard anyone specifically distinguish between mpeg and mpeg-ps, and I've never met an mpeg (1) file I couldn't play, although I don't come across them often. We did have one client who specifically wanted a series of clips to be in mpeg1 format for backwards compatibility with their current systems and we had no issues with it in Quicktime, so whatever codecs Apple ships with the player by default worked just fine.
Yes, that is what I have said in every post I have made in this thread.
No, I'm claiming that Quicktime on its own can play mpeg files, which has been the case for any Mac I have ever owned (even ones without FCP installed).
It won't play mpeg2 files without the extra codec from apple, that is installed either via FCP, or buy buying it standalone (or getting it from perian).
And I believe you on the Windows 7 codecs - I just haven't personally used it. My experiences with Windows stop at XP with a little bit of Vista Home basic.
Probably some people. The point is that it is available for Windows users if they want it (or forced on them if they want to use an iPod or iPhone, depending on who you ask), thus it is being actively developed for platforms other than Mac by Apple, which is a far cry from "slapping an i in front of the name and making it Mac only" as the GP asserts Apple would do "in the best case scenario".
So what's the problem? Extra hoops? It does work when you do that.
(Or you could just use Perian for Xvid)
I worked in the professional video field for 5 years - when I say quicktime played back mpeg2 and mpeg files, that's what I mean - files the end with the extension mpg and mp2, as generated by Compressor right out of FCP exports.
Quicktime supports the mpeg container.
If Windows 7 ships with mpeg2 playback that is finally good news - like you said, XP and earlier did not, so if you added an OEM DVD drive you could not play DVDs unless you purchased a DVD playing app (or one came bundled with the drive). If you bought a machine with a drive already in it then it usually shipped with PowerDVD or some other third party software that provided the mp2 playback.
I know it doesn't do hardware acceleration (not supported at all in OS X yet) but I used to shoot and edit 1080i material (circa 2007/8) in XDCAM HD and it works just fine, and that's the XDCAM HD raw, AIC, H.264 and HDV formats.
The mpeg2 codec for quicktime costs extra from Apple (license issue, even though the DVD player app that ships with OS X plays mpeg2 already, crazy) - Windows does not come with native mpeg2 playback either for the same license reason.
Hardware accelerated video is a relatively new phenomenon outside of niche applications (like the old school Media 100 system I used to work on - 300Mhz of mayhem with hardware acceleration), and if it's not addressed soon I'm sure there will be problems, but right now it's not the be all and end all unless you're trying to make a media box with a beefy card and weak CPU - I expect the issue will be sorted when the Apple TV finally gets updated.
Don't you have homework to do?
I'm sorry, but they're not dropping OS X support, they just have no one in the current project to handle that side of it, hence asking for more manpower.
If Microsoft puts an advert in the paper asking for more developers for Windows do you assume that they are dropping support for Windows?
Also, if you really are a "longtime programmer of many languages" then Obj-C really shouldn't be much of a stretch for you. It's not like it's written in Latin.
Your thinly veiled Apple bash post has been exposed I'm afraid.
I'm sorry what?
You are making no sense. I'd link the Darth Vader filling a kettle in the sea picture, but this isn't 4Chan.
You can't do it - it's not possible in OS X at this time, even though it should be.
Have to wait for Apple (or Nvidia/ATI + Apple) to enable that.
iTunes doesn't handle DVD playing by default in OS X - what are you talking about?
Also, who previews files in iTunes? Just pop it open in Quicktime or VLC, surely?
A friend of mine has well over 1TB of legit mp3 files (made from years of CDs, tapes and LPs) on a server in his garage and iTunes handles them just fine. So does iTunes on his wife's Macbook.
The iPod naming scheme was irrelevant - it was never designed to work as a mass storage device as far as your music was concerned (ie, you didn't need to see how the thing was storing the music to use it - you set it up in iTunes and it would handle that for you. The obfuscation was probably all that was needed to placate the music industry at the time (in talks for iTMS for a long time remember), but was trivial to overcome if you needed to). It was never about being "superior", and no one ever claimed it was. You have just decided that was the reason to justify your position.
You really don't understand just what Quicktime is, but suffice to say it's not just a media player (take a look at the codebase for it sometime), and it can be easily extended with multiple different formats just like VLC or Mplayer - What you use for your front end is up to you of course, but your assertion that Quicktime is absolute rubbish is just not accurate.
There are many ways to burn CDs on the Mac without using commercial software - for one thing, it is built into the OS, but there are open source projects that also do burning on OS X and have for a long time.
Oh you mean like they did with the iPod and iTunes, making it Mac only and stopping anyone else from... oh wait no.
Or Quicktime, which is Mac only and no one else can... oh wait.
Err, surely Safari, based on KHTML, taken like candy from a baby from OSS and then made Mac only!!! mwuhahahahahaha! oh wait.....
Sorry, any more? The evil empire building isn't going so well.
It doesn't seem to - I just tested an mkv file on Quicktime X and it spat it back at me, but the same file plays fine in Quicktime 7.
In the huge bullet point list, in bold, by product code, with a further text explanation for each piece.
It's halfway down the page underneath the photograph of the machine and the bold face, all caps title "FASTRA II".
Do you need a screenshot also?
For some links:
http://www.divx.com/en/software/mac/divx
http://www.perian.org/
googling "mac video codecs" has perian at number 2, xvid at number 3, 3vix at number 8 and WMV at number 9.
Perian adds all of those codecs that you claim is "not easy" to add support for. A few clicks and it's installed. Log out and back in again at the installer's suggestion (not essential) and the job is done.
Not sure what your issue is with HD h.264 content - works just fine for me (HD files created from XDCAM HD source material, YMMV).
Divx support is easily added via perian, or using the standalone DivX installer from their main website - not sure how you didn't find that.
To force a change to stick regarding the "open with" command, that's one of those Finder quirks. I always set this by using Get Info (command+i) on a file and then changing the default there, and selecting "apply to all files of this type". If the Finder crashes for any reason before this preference is saved it may not stick - logging out and back in will save it.
Quicktime itself is far from crap. It has problems, like any media player, but it has been improved gradually over time. The newest incarnation (Quicktime X) has been totally rewritten, and I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but fortunately QT Player 7 stays around if you prefer to use the more familiar version (or you have plugins that depend on it).
No, just that an anonymous assertion about something that can be observed by looking it up is absurd.
It's not a death threat if she says she'd like to kill someone.
It is is she says she is going to kill someone.
But doing it on a right wing radio talk show is a-ok?
Where are cops in that instance?