"...the facial expressions that a car can make are probably nothing like actual social cues, and that they would not be similar enough to trigger expression recognition code in your brain"
I think the fact that they actually look like facial expressions, which anybody can recognize without any training, is evidence that they *do* trigger expression recognition in the brain. As a side note, I've always felt very strongly since I was a kid that looking at head-lights and rear-bumper lights were like staring at a pair of eyes. Eye recognition is one something very common in animal visual systems, and is exploited by a lot of prey animals to scare aware predators. There are tons of butterflies, caterpillers, etc. with 'eye patterns' on them that would belong to a relative large face. These eye patterns are nothing but a couple of high-contrast does. Eyes are the basically are simply dark holes, a pair of organic camera obscuras.
One might argue, that, as humans are hardwired to quickly asses human facial expressions, we might spend less time looking in the rear-view mirror if cars had them. I think it would be at least worth a scientific study.
That's really fascinating. For instance, maybe state A has a law against storing information X about people. However, in the Matrix network, is there any thing to prevent them from requesting that data from another state where it's allowed to be stored? And if there is a constant connection, it wouldn't be different from storing it locally.
I'm sure one could argue that the local computer loading the data into RAM constitutes 'storing' it, but I don't think the people involved are particularly worried about the letter or the spirit of the law at this point.
If I were to get socked in the eye, I would rather have the squishey tissue squeezing against itself than have a tough, polycarbonate disc of higher density getting knocked towards my brain.
I think it's more about making sure that they do get it (not "Oops! I guess I never did get it" 20 years later), and secondly, making sure you don't have a rolling 20% block of kids missing school for a 3 month period while the infection is running its course.
I think the SETI idea comes from a 1950 sci-fi mindset about aliens and out space. The aliens are Like Us, where we are western scientists. It's a linear view of civilization, not unlike sim-earth or something, where first you have one-celled organisms, multi-cellular organisms, then animals, then intelligents, then civilization, bronze age, iron age, radio age, etc.
This is the same reasoning as the great chain of being, where, starting from rocks, then going on to plants and animals, the only thing above man is angels, who live in heaven (now known to be outer space). Since they are more advanced than use, they are a race of humble geniuses quietly pursuing knowledge and understanding, like any advanced civilization, where as we miserable humans, stuck on this God-forsaken (literally) chaotic, changing rock, are just one step up from the slime that our bodies are made out of and are on the brink of self-annihilation.
It all depends on whether you consider aliens Like-Us or Not-Like-Us. Scientific knowledge is scientific knowledge, but when scientists start day dreaming, they tell stories that are quite similar to stories people have been telling for thousands of years.
Actually, I think it's not a bad thing. I was reading somewhere that allowing the credit card companies to do loan sharking has cut off major funding for the mafia. Eveyone gets in trouble sometimes, and in the old days, mom and pop used to go to Guido.
At least credit card companies don't break your legs. Between them and the mafia, I would choose to support the cc industry.
The problem with the robot laws is that they are strong AI problems. What exactly does 'harm' mean? If a robot sees a person smoking, should it rip the cigarette from their mouth? If it sees someone walking, should it run over and pick them up before they do irreprable harm to their knee ligaments? What constitutes harm on a robot?
The robot is also subject to the ethical/philosophical conundrums such as killing a person to stop a train headed into a group of people, or cutting off the limb of a person trapped under a fallen tree, etc.
Well, isn't the hallmark of understanding re-creation? I understand that all couldseeding experiments have failed ('chemtrail' conspiracy theories notwithstanding), which leads me to believe that we don't really get how water condenses into clouds. If we did, shouldn't we be able to seed clouds?
As I understand it, the water vapor is already in the air, but we don't understand how it specifically condenses into a cloud. My question is if a bacteria population causes this as they reproduce. Not that a cloud is a itself an organism, but the result of bacteria creating a hospitable environment for themselves.
I was doing some reading on astrbiology and I noted that someone was theorizing that the changing cloud structure on venus might be an indication of life activity. I don't know weather he meant the coulds were the life itself, or a byproduct thereof.
Anywho, seeing as how we have little clue how earthly clouds develop, some are theorizing that certain bacteria are necessary for cloud formation. What if the whole cloud is a bacterial colony? Clouds have an organic shape, and certain patterns seem similar to bacterial growth patterbs.
Here's my question: If clouds are not bacterial colonies, what non-organic chemical processes produce shapes and structures similar to clouds?
I don't think there will be any collision problem if they are re-used. If they are generated randomly, what are the chances that two RFID tags of the same number will meet in space and time? Probably not often enough to worry about, and then the difference should be obvious. A 2008 Post Office receipt vs. a 2021 can of baked beabs.
Don't dispose of your old monitors. They have lead and other hazardous materials that we really don't want in our groundwater. Please take this opportunity to have them disposed of properly.
Maybe FF could look at how long you've been staring at a page, how slowly you scroll down a page, how wide and deeply you navigate a site, how often you return to a link, etc. and use these criteria to create a history page that better shows what you were interested in at the time. This 'history of interest' might actually replace the bookmarks, unless you're the type who uses the bookmarks to 'file and forget'.
There was an interesting piece on NPR a while ago. The guy was arguing that the popularity of Nascar was due to the increasing computerization of work. Guys like to watch Nascar because it's still mostly mechanical. Most of them worked on cars in their youth, not computers.
Going back, people who grew up on farms and moved in to the cities got factory jobs in cramped spaces with a tyrranical clock. Baseball is played in fields, with no clock pressures. A lot of slow paced standing around with bursts of action. Appeals to the youth of those factory workers.
$400/month with cable/net/water? That's cheap! Here in Columbus, rent on apartment starts at $500! You can get single rooms in the OSU campus/ghetto area for $400, but again, that's cheap university area/ghetto (and I do mean ghetto) housing.
You might have a look at housing costs around the nation. It wil give you a better idea as to why Joe Blow is broke.
"Whoa. No offense was intended there. If I came off a bit strong, it's probably my anger at B&B showing through."
"No no, wasn't offended. Actually I should be the one apologizing with the 'sorry I'm not a nerd' comment"
"It's okay. I'm actually not that much of a stickler for continuity..."
Sheesh, get a room, you two.
Steven's corollary to Godwin's Law: There is a positive relationship between the number of apologies give two avoid a flame war in successive threads and the amount of nausea felt in the reader's stomach.
Well, that's probably true. I say let the youth have their fun. But from what I've heard and read of the statistics, a fair number of Americans are falling behind in credit card debt, and not because of frivolous spending. Do you have cheap dorm or cheap university housing? A house and two cars are the basic requirements of life in America -- are cities are designed so that you ca't work without a car. Anyways, I don't know what the catch is, but apparently it's catching a lot of people.
You're actually in one of the age ranges that has the most disposable income. A lot of your buddies bought PCs and blew the rest of their money in drinking binges. Wait till you have a mortgage, 2 car payments, spouse, and 2.6 kids.
OK, OK, but what I should have tried to say is that technology and design are not mutually exclusive -- the same aesthetic that drives you to make a visually apealing appliance would also apply to interface design and functionality. So good design isn't necessarily superficial. It can also apply to the apps and the OS, and make for better computing experi^H^H^H^H^H^H^H productivity, less steep learning curve, etc.
When a funeral procession goes by, would all the cars be crying?
There's probably more... that's what they 'reply' button is for.
I think the fact that they actually look like facial expressions, which anybody can recognize without any training, is evidence that they *do* trigger expression recognition in the brain. As a side note, I've always felt very strongly since I was a kid that looking at head-lights and rear-bumper lights were like staring at a pair of eyes. Eye recognition is one something very common in animal visual systems, and is exploited by a lot of prey animals to scare aware predators. There are tons of butterflies, caterpillers, etc. with 'eye patterns' on them that would belong to a relative large face. These eye patterns are nothing but a couple of high-contrast does. Eyes are the basically are simply dark holes, a pair of organic camera obscuras.
One might argue, that, as humans are hardwired to quickly asses human facial expressions, we might spend less time looking in the rear-view mirror if cars had them. I think it would be at least worth a scientific study.
I'm sure one could argue that the local computer loading the data into RAM constitutes 'storing' it, but I don't think the people involved are particularly worried about the letter or the spirit of the law at this point.
If I were to get socked in the eye, I would rather have the squishey tissue squeezing against itself than have a tough, polycarbonate disc of higher density getting knocked towards my brain.
I think it's more about making sure that they do get it (not "Oops! I guess I never did get it" 20 years later), and secondly, making sure you don't have a rolling 20% block of kids missing school for a 3 month period while the infection is running its course.
This is the same reasoning as the great chain of being, where, starting from rocks, then going on to plants and animals, the only thing above man is angels, who live in heaven (now known to be outer space). Since they are more advanced than use, they are a race of humble geniuses quietly pursuing knowledge and understanding, like any advanced civilization, where as we miserable humans, stuck on this God-forsaken (literally) chaotic, changing rock, are just one step up from the slime that our bodies are made out of and are on the brink of self-annihilation.
It all depends on whether you consider aliens Like-Us or Not-Like-Us. Scientific knowledge is scientific knowledge, but when scientists start day dreaming, they tell stories that are quite similar to stories people have been telling for thousands of years.
At least credit card companies don't break your legs. Between them and the mafia, I would choose to support the cc industry.
The robot is also subject to the ethical/philosophical conundrums such as killing a person to stop a train headed into a group of people, or cutting off the limb of a person trapped under a fallen tree, etc.
Well, isn't the hallmark of understanding re-creation? I understand that all couldseeding experiments have failed ('chemtrail' conspiracy theories notwithstanding), which leads me to believe that we don't really get how water condenses into clouds. If we did, shouldn't we be able to seed clouds?
As I understand it, the water vapor is already in the air, but we don't understand how it specifically condenses into a cloud. My question is if a bacteria population causes this as they reproduce. Not that a cloud is a itself an organism, but the result of bacteria creating a hospitable environment for themselves.
Anywho, seeing as how we have little clue how earthly clouds develop, some are theorizing that certain bacteria are necessary for cloud formation. What if the whole cloud is a bacterial colony? Clouds have an organic shape, and certain patterns seem similar to bacterial growth patterbs.
Here's my question: If clouds are not bacterial colonies, what non-organic chemical processes produce shapes and structures similar to clouds?
Just call them on the landline then.
Quuuusfaba.
I don't think there will be any collision problem if they are re-used. If they are generated randomly, what are the chances that two RFID tags of the same number will meet in space and time? Probably not often enough to worry about, and then the difference should be obvious. A 2008 Post Office receipt vs. a 2021 can of baked beabs.
"Crap booth" is not as interesting as it seems, but apparently communist Germany and capitalist America aren't really that different.
Don't dispose of your old monitors. They have lead and other hazardous materials that we really don't want in our groundwater. Please take this opportunity to have them disposed of properly.
1990: All hell breaks loose.
Maybe FF could look at how long you've been staring at a page, how slowly you scroll down a page, how wide and deeply you navigate a site, how often you return to a link, etc. and use these criteria to create a history page that better shows what you were interested in at the time. This 'history of interest' might actually replace the bookmarks, unless you're the type who uses the bookmarks to 'file and forget'.
Going back, people who grew up on farms and moved in to the cities got factory jobs in cramped spaces with a tyrranical clock. Baseball is played in fields, with no clock pressures. A lot of slow paced standing around with bursts of action. Appeals to the youth of those factory workers.
You might have a look at housing costs around the nation. It wil give you a better idea as to why Joe Blow is broke.
"No no, wasn't offended. Actually I should be the one apologizing with the 'sorry I'm not a nerd' comment"
"It's okay. I'm actually not that much of a stickler for continuity..."
Sheesh, get a room, you two.
Steven's corollary to Godwin's Law: There is a positive relationship between the number of apologies give two avoid a flame war in successive threads and the amount of nausea felt in the reader's stomach.
Well, that's probably true. I say let the youth have their fun. But from what I've heard and read of the statistics, a fair number of Americans are falling behind in credit card debt, and not because of frivolous spending. Do you have cheap dorm or cheap university housing? A house and two cars are the basic requirements of life in America -- are cities are designed so that you ca't work without a car. Anyways, I don't know what the catch is, but apparently it's catching a lot of people.
You're actually in one of the age ranges that has the most disposable income. A lot of your buddies bought PCs and blew the rest of their money in drinking binges. Wait till you have a mortgage, 2 car payments, spouse, and 2.6 kids.
OK, OK, but what I should have tried to say is that technology and design are not mutually exclusive -- the same aesthetic that drives you to make a visually apealing appliance would also apply to interface design and functionality. So good design isn't necessarily superficial. It can also apply to the apps and the OS, and make for better computing experi^H^H^H^H^H^H^H productivity, less steep learning curve, etc.