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Toyota Patents Winking, Laughing, Crying Car

theodp writes "If the patent system ain't broke, don't fix it: The NY Times/IHT reports that four inventors working for Toyota in Japan have won a patent for a car that they say can help drivers communicate better by glaring angrily at another car cutting through traffic, as well as appear to cry, laugh, wink or just look around." The article goes on to describe "...a car with an antenna that wags, an adjustable body height, headlights that vary in intensity and hood slits and ornamentation designed to look like eyebrows, eyelids and tears."

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  1. What I want to know by IncarnadineConor · · Score: 5, Funny

    is what part of the car is going to represent the middle finger

    1. Re:What I want to know by Mz6 · · Score: 1

      Would the stick shift count?

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    2. Re:What I want to know by da3dAlus · · Score: 1

      The knee.

      Next question please.
      Yes, you in the shirt...

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    3. Re:What I want to know by tambo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I suspect the primary claim of this patent reads: "A method of substantially increasing the frequency of auto accidents by adding distraction to the road, comprising..."

      Seriously, what an awful idea. Yes, let's pay attention to the emotions of the cars around us. Because even after the advent of cellphones, food from drive-throughs, stereos, GPS devices, and in-car LCD screens - we're still paying WAY too much attention to our driving situation.

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    4. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Screw that.

      I want rocket launchers and flame throwers.

      Let's have some real retribution for those who piss me off, none of this namby pamby crying shit.

      And don't dare mod this comment as "funny".

    5. Re:What I want to know by Maestro4k · · Score: 1
      • is what part of the car is going to represent the middle finger
      The hood ornament?
    6. Re:What I want to know by shufler · · Score: 2, Funny

      The inventors say that these features on cars will make driving more entertaining.

      As long as you're being entertained watching the crying car behing you, as you rear-end the angry car in front of you, what difference does it make?!

      THEATER FOR THE ROAD.

    7. Re:What I want to know by Asprin · · Score: 1


      Under - freaking - rated. Well done.

      I would only add that this at least nowadays you can pretend to ignore that jerk behind you at the intersection by fiddling with your radio in a non-confrontational way. How the hell do you pretend to ignore Speed Buggy callin' you out without making your car look intimidated and evasive?!

      Try as I might, I just can't see how emotional driving could possibly be a good thing.

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    8. Re:What I want to know by Blublu · · Score: 1

      Someone already thought of that Don't know about rocket launcers though. Maybe you really want a tank?

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    9. Re:What I want to know by e2d2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But let's be honest, how many people in this self-centered world really give a shit what other's around them think? I would wager about 1%.

      This is a complete waste of time. But hey, what else do they have to do? It's not like there is an energy crisis going on...

    10. Re:What I want to know by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I disagree. At least it'll mean you're paying attention to the vehicles on the road.

      Cars are already designed to try to clue you in to what the driver is thinking - for example, brake lights, turn signals, horns, etc. Communication of intent between drivers is critical while on the road. Now, some of this is more what the driver "feels" than what they are planning, but I doubt it would *hurt*. The more attention you pay to what's on the road ahead of you, the better.

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    11. Re:What I want to know by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      by adding distraction.. by making you pay attention to other cars.

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    12. Re:What I want to know by tambo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      At least it'll mean you're paying attention to the vehicles on the road.



      But are you? Instead of paying attention to all of the cars, you're paying more attention to one particular car. And it's not guaranteed to be a car that's important to your driving situation - it could very well be a car on the opposite side of the road.



      One of the other posters wrote it best: as you look in your rear-view mirror at the guy behind you, whose car is making a frowny-face, you're likely to rear-end the guy ahead of you.



      Or, look at it this way: You're spending less time thinking about driving, and more time thinking about our ephemeral human interaction with the other driver.



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    13. Re:What I want to know by tambo · · Score: 1
      by adding distraction.. by making you pay attention to other cars.

      Sure! And by that same token, we should let people mount billboards on top of their cars. Because in addition to allowing them to profit (by further cluttering our consciousness with marketing), you'd be paying more attention to the car, thus making the roads safer.

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    14. Re:What I want to know by atrizzah · · Score: 1

      Personally, I would love the ability to convey my emotions to the other drivers on the road. I think it's a great idea. An idea that will undoubtedly provoke road rage worldwide, but a great idea nonetheless

    15. Re:What I want to know by dlmarti · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine what this is going to do to california highways. They already shoot each other for honking. What are they going to do if the other car growls at them.

      I hope this will never happen.

    16. Re:What I want to know by billcopc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Communication on my car is best done with a bumper sticker.

      "Bite my shiny metal ass"

      I'm one of those road warriors who holds an extreme grudge against Honda teens, Lexus dinks, and every other idiot who fails to realize that:

      a. you're just a sack of meat, $$$ or not
      b. other people are sacks of meat too
      c. cars are tougher than sacks of meat

      When someone consciously pulls a stupid stunt near me, I take it as a threat to my health and well-being, and react accordingly. Getting the finger is getting off easy, in the street or a bar it would have been a severe beating.

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    17. Re:What I want to know by Glog · · Score: 1

      In light of the recent movie "I, Robot" I'd like to remind you that we won't always have to drive cars ourselves. When cars become autonomous betcha there's gonna be a bunch of bored "drivers/passengers" looking for all kinds of diversions. At that time Toyota might even patent "A method for sumilating sex between vehicles"... They are just taking a preemptive patent on this one.

    18. Re:What I want to know by xp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What we really need is IM-enabled cars. "Hey you, yellow car, wake up, the lights green."
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    19. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you show the hot MILF next to you that you're ready for some backseat action? :)

    20. Re:What I want to know by Coulson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We could also go a long way by expanding the capabilities of the existing communications channels.

      For instance, why not have brake lights shine brighter the harder you're braking? That would give people behind you an indication of how hard they need to brake, without waiting to judge your change in velocity.

      Or brake lights that shine forward?
      Or acceleration lights that shine green (brighter the faster you accelerate)?
      Or turn signals that tick louder the farther you've traveled with them on (to remind you to turn them off)?

      Lots of innovations in car UI just waiting to happen, but it's so fscking standardized that no one's going to make them. I'm glad to see Toyota's at least thinking about what it means to actually drive a car, rather than just trying to build the latest rendition of an old concept.

      P.S. I get really incensed by the ads that are running right now -- I forget whose -- where the company claims to have 're-invented the wheel', 'rethought the car from the ground up', and 'come up with something completely revolutionary'. Then they show you a picture and it's... a sedan. Same as every other car on the road. Whoop-de-fucking-do.

    21. Re:What I want to know by Rei · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you spend your entire time as you're walking smiling, frowning, crying, etc?

      Odds are, the answer is 'No'.

      People don't spend their time expressing emotions to strangers unless they have a reason for it, and when they do, there's generally a good reason for it, and it's generally either appreciated or causes a desired interaction. That's the nature of communication in crowds.

      This would, more than anything, encourage *good* driving. There have been many times where, when I've been in a big pack of cars and desparately needed to get over, another car went out of their way to let me over. Such behavior, in direct human interaction, generally receives a "thank you" or a smile, but there is no way to do this in your conventional car (cars can pretty much only say "Hey!" - the implied meaning of the horn). For all the person knows, their action went unappreciated.

      The "thank you" or smile aren't functionless.

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    22. Re:What I want to know by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      I don't want to know how you know the car ahead of you is angry. Being able to see its face implies one set of odd and undesirable possibilities, and if you can't then there are worse possibilities.

    23. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, in short; you're a totally psychotic sociopath.

      Gee, that's nice to know.

    24. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's stopping you? Taxi drivers, at least in some cities, do this all the time. The only reason you don't is that there is no market. No one cares enough about your car to sponsor you.

    25. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AUTO BOTS wage their battle to
      destroy the evil
      forces of
      the deceptacons!!!!!!!!!

    26. Re:What I want to know by tambo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Do you spend your entire time as you're walking smiling, frowning, crying, etc?

      Odds are, the answer is 'No'.

      True. But that's even worse: now a car expressing emotion is an unusual occurrence, one that prompts you to pay attention to it.

      Can you think of another visual event that might encourage people to be better drivers? How about a wreck by the side of the road? A small visual indicator of the consequences of bad driving might encourage people to be more careful.

      But what is the real impact of that? It's a visual distraction - and it causes people to gawk, horrendously tying up traffic. Worse, people have follow-up accidents: they're so busy looking out the side window that they hit something. All visual distractors have the same impact - and the more interesting they are, the more adverse the result.

      Even car horns are distracting. If someone behind you honks their horn, you always shift your eyes off the road to your rear-view mirror to see what's up. Many accidents have happened in that instant. And if the car isn't honking at you, then that accident was pointless.

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    27. Re:What I want to know by peatbakke · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, maybe it's about time drivers pay attention to the other cars on the road.

    28. Re:What I want to know by twofidyKidd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Cars are already designed to try to clue you in to what the driver is thinking..." Yes, well, drivers have to actually be thinking for it to be of any use.

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    29. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Turn signals and brake lights were bad enough, but this is just ridiculous.

    30. Re:What I want to know by Proc6 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      But what is the real impact of that? It's a visual distraction - and it causes people to gawk, horrendously tying up traffic. Worse, people have follow-up accidents: they're so busy looking out the side window that they hit something.

      You mean like those pesky Vipers, Porsches, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and HumVee's with 5 foot lift kits? YEAH, GET RID OF THEM ALL! Thou shalt all drive gray Volvos!

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    31. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't read the story (of course), but I heard it on the radio this morning. It's not all "facial" stuff. Lowering the car to make it more menacing was also listed.

    32. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Good lord. Talk about over-rationalization. Your logic is sloppy too, you offer a hypothetical of someone's horn causing an accident, but don't consider how many accidents are prevented by using the horn. By your logic we should eliminate turn signals and brake lights too, because some driver will be distracted by a turn signal on one side and not see an impending collision on the other. Turn signals and brake lights were also at one time an 'unusual occurence', but that does not mean that the signals should never have been implemented.

      Better communication of the driver's intentions is a good thing, and will make driving safer not less safe.

    33. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wanted to have one of those LED-ticker signs in the back window of my car. It would be programmed with a few common messages (turn on your lights, back off, jackass, etc) that I could select at the touch of a button. Very useful.

    34. Re:What I want to know by homer_ca · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but I can see their reasons behind this. On the road, cars are like anonymous machines. When people hide behind their cars it enables a lot of aggressive or inconsiderate behavior that they wouldn't do in a face to face situation. I've seen this before with online behavior too. You've probably known a few rude online assholes who act polite and mild mannered in person.

    35. Re:What I want to know by DoctorHibbert · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Communication of intent between drivers is critical..."

      Obviously you are new to driving.

      If the other driver knows my intent, then I've lost the element of surprise.

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    36. Re:What I want to know by one4nine4two · · Score: 1

      Sounds cool, but would it be legal?

    37. Re:What I want to know by Drawkcab · · Score: 1

      Patents expire. So unless they think that change would come in the near future it wouldn't necessarily be relevant. Car companies are always coming up with funny concept cars that never make it into mass production. A patent on something frivolous like this doesn't necessarily mean that they've put a lot of thought into actually doing it.

    38. Re:What I want to know by glitch23 · · Score: 1

      Tell that to the police who don't like you using certain color neon lights on your vehicle or neon lights at all in some states.

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    39. Re:What I want to know by TobiasSodergren · · Score: 1

      If I recall correctly, Herbie the love bug did express feelings and drived about by itself. And that was as early as 1968.

    40. Re:What I want to know by RyatNrrd · · Score: 2, Informative
      P.S. I get really incensed by the ads that are running right now -- I forget whose -- where the company claims to have 're-invented the wheel', 'rethought the car from the ground up', and 'come up with something completely revolutionary'. Then they show you a picture and it's... a sedan. Same as every other car on the road. Whoop-de-fucking-do.

      ...And it has an internal combustion engine of traditional Victorian design, and it runs on petrol. I couldn't agree more. If they really were to 'reth[ink] the car from the ground up,' maybe they'd be able to fix a few of the major MAJOR problems with the current design.

      Nah, pay the engineers to put eyebrows on the fucking thing instead.

    41. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's really needed is a window sized strobe tube in the shape of the finger with a dark background to shield the user. Flash it and the other guy will have the finger imprinted on his retina for at least half a minute.

    42. Re:What I want to know by kabloom · · Score: 1

      I, for one, hope our society can learn to be civil to each other, and I think that cars are greatly lacking the "Thank You" button, and the "I'm sorry" button.

      They do not need a middle finger.

      Tomorrow is the 9th of Av, the day on which the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. Our sages state in the Talmud (Yoma 9b) that the second temple was destroyed because of sinat chinam--wanton and baseless hatred.

      Can we learn our lesson already?

    43. Re:What I want to know by tambo · · Score: 1
      Your logic is sloppy too, you offer a hypothetical of someone's horn causing an accident, but don't consider how many accidents are prevented by using the horn. By your logic we should eliminate turn signals and brake lights too, because some driver will be distracted by a turn signal on one side and not see an impending collision on the other.

      Down, boy.

      Talk about sloppy logic. I didn't suggest eliminating horns - I merely pointed out that they can be a distraction. (And the horn example wasn't originally mine - the post to which I was responding brought them up as a positive distractor.)

      Of course, distractors should be kept when they have a net positive gain. Turn signals are distracting, but they allow other drivers to get out of the way. Horns are distracting, but obviously help to prevent some accidents. (And the distraction is minimized because they're purely audible - you don't have to move your eyes to get the full message.) Net result is positive - even though they distract, they should be kept.

      But I see very few net positives to automobile facial expressions (compared with the simpler, audible message conveyed by a car horn.) People will spend extra time fiddling with their emotion-display icon, and extra time gawking at the facial expressions of other cars. Is that a happy-smiley or an embarrassed-smiley? Is that Volvo frowning at me or the driver next to me? Hey, that's a neat frowny-face, I wond*CRUNCH*

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    44. Re:What I want to know by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      I got lots of things in my car to let people know how I feel. a red lightbar (I'm a fireman), a PA speaker, and a siren :)

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    45. Re:What I want to know by TheLink · · Score: 1

      "(cars can pretty much only say "Hey!" - the implied meaning of the horn)."

      I've tried to propose different horns for different messages (other than Hey/Oi!), my theory is that it might help reduce misunderstanding and escalations to road rage.

      Coz most people interpret the horn message negatively.

      If you could say "excuse me", yes, no, it'll be better.

      Or bark, growl, yelp, whimper, whine :).

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    46. Re:What I want to know by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      cars do have billboards on them quite often....

      you ever go out?

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    47. Re:What I want to know by JosKarith · · Score: 1

      What I want to have is a system to assign people "wanker points". You get say three to hand out each year, and you can assign them to anyone who annoys you. Get 3 wanker points = 1 point on your license.
      Think of it as a mobile version of peer-review.
      Oh, for american drivers who don't know - if you get 12 points on your license then you lose it for three years.

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    48. Re:What I want to know by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was at decently high levels during the dot-com age. Red Bull still does it, in particular for college campuses. And there are still companies such as Vehicles4Free that offer it. *shrug* There's a fair listing on the right of Google if you search for 'car ads' although I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are like http://www.poetry.com/ or those "lyrics publishers" that offer to publish your works for a small fee and offer practically nothing.

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    49. Re:What I want to know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At that time Toyota might even patent "A method for sumilating sex between vehicles"...

      Hey, there's prior art for that one. It's called a train. Or maybe that's groupsex?

  2. I just want to know... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...would Herbie the Love Bug count as prior art?

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    1. Re:I just want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UltraCar would.

    2. Re:I just want to know... by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

      I think you could safely post IMDb links to Herbie
      movies as prior art, yes :)

    3. Re:I just want to know... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Or 'RC' from Toy Story.

    4. Re:I just want to know... by mog007 · · Score: 1

      What about those cute cars that Chevron was using for their Techron enhanced gas?

    5. Re:I just want to know... by Grizzlysmit · · Score: 1
      ...would Herbie the Love Bug count as prior art?
      shouldn't that be prior "tack" considering how tacky both this and "Herbie the Love Bug" where/are.
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  3. if they can patent that.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can I patent a method of sticking a single finger out the window to express my frustration with other drivers?

  4. Two Words: by XCorvis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Two Words:

    Moon Roof

    1. Re:Two Words: by AbbyNormal · · Score: 1

      I'm from Pennsylvania you insensitive sod!

      My Two words: Turret Cannon

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    2. Re:Two Words: by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

      I'm from Pennsylvania you insensitive sod!

      My Two words: Turret Cannon


      i sure hope you're talking about they guy near my house that drives around with a herse with flames on the hood and turret cannon welded to the roof. he scares me.

  5. Doesn't this increase the danger? by Gentoo+Fan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you spend a few extra split seconds looking in the mirror at another car's "expression" then you are spending less time looking ahead of you.

    1. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only if you take a picture of it with your camera phone.

    2. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "If you spend a few extra split seconds looking in the mirror at another car's "expression" then you are spending less time looking ahead of you."

      And looking in the rear view mirror at the driver behind you is going to take less time some how?

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    3. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by allism · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the extra time the driver of the emoticar is spending trying to get the right emotion to display...

    4. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the extra time the driver of the emoticar is spending trying to get the right emotion to display...

      Next, they'll need voice recognition.

      "Pissed!"
      "That chick's hot, WINK! WINK!"
      "Fuck, that cop is going to pull me over. CRY!"

      LK

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    5. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by dustinbarbour · · Score: 1

      not that anyone is gonna buy one of these monstrosities.. not that toyota would even build the things.

    6. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 1

      Looking in the rear view mirror is a must for any driver. You should know as much about your environment as you possibly can.

      Those split seconds aren't "extra"...if there's a car in your rear-view mirror, you should glance at it long enough to get an estimate of how far away they are. Are they too close? Will they hit you if you break suddenly? Absorbing a car's facial expression shouldn't require concious effort.

      That said, I think it's a bad idea to start with. I've frequently driven in places where glaring at another driver will get you run off the road.

    7. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worst.
      Car Idea.
      Ever.

    8. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by CowsAnonymous · · Score: 1

      Yeah, what ever happened to a quick honk for "Go ahead", two quick honks and a wave for "hi", and a long blare for "Learn how to use your turn signal"

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    9. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by stinkyfingers · · Score: 1

      That's why I want my horn to be a recording of Adam Sandler yelling, "ASSHOLE!!!!"

      Really, this is the only expression I ever wish I could convey to other drivers.

    10. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by LincolnQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Doesn't this increase the danger?

      Well, possibly, but if someone is trying to communicate with you, it may be the best way anyway. Think about it. Would you rather they flash the lights, honk the horn or wave? You will spend more brain cycles trying to parse these messages. Generally, an interface that uses ingrained brain 'hardware' to communicate is usually better than teaching everyone that signal X means Y.

      You may remember that we had that article on Facetop last week, where you can use your existing hand-eye coordination 'hardware' to drive the pointer. That sounds like really stellar UI. This is similar in that it would use humanlike social cues to communicate. (Then again... social cues? I must be new here.)

      The only problem I'm seeing is that the facial expressions that a car can make are probably nothing like actual social cues, and that they would not be similar enough to trigger expression recognition code in your brain. Who knows.

    11. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Thing+1 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, I never look at other drivers. I view other cars as just that, other cars, not really acknowledging the fact that there are other humans doing the piloting. I guess driver's ed worked well for me, as I don't experience (or express) road rage.

      I'm not a robot, not yet at least ;-) but vehicles to me are entities in and of themselves. So if the vehicle itself gives me an expression, I'd give it some attention (and thus have less attention left for the rest of the driving experience), but even if a driver gives me the finger and falls halfway out of his window doing so, I wouldn't notice him -- unless his car happened to start swerving.

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    12. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by baudilus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree, this could actually reduce the time spent looking in the mirror. If you cut someone off, the guy in the car behind you is going to do everything he can to get your attention (flip you the bird, honk, scream, shoot at you). If this car is at all successful, after the first phase of 'wow, look at that!' comments from drivers, people will get used to it and disregard angry drivers at a glance, easily guaging their emotional state from the very visible front end of the car, rather than peering at the driver him/herself.

      On a side note, I'd like to the car do this automatically, without the driver having to flip a switch or push a button, kind of like Suki's car in 2 Fast 2 Furious (albeit hers was only on the dashboard LCD, not outside the car).

    13. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Crizp · · Score: 1

      You never know :) The Japanese car companies have made some crazy stuff...

    14. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No worse a distraction than some jerk speeding up behind me with red & blue strobe lights brighter than the sun.

      Sheesh, the nerve. Like I'm letting him get around me now!

    15. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One might argue, that, as humans are hardwired to quickly asses human facial expressions, we might spend less time looking in the rear-view mirror if cars had them. I think it would be at least worth a scientific study.

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    16. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by joggle · · Score: 1

      I did exactly that on a recent road trip. Some guy behind me was driving with one of those cardboard covers across the windshield with a sunglasses image. It baffled me at first how a guy could be driving on the interstate without being able to see ahead but then I noticed two eyes peering over the sun screen. Either he or I where begging for a Darwin Award for that one...

    17. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by rupert2000 · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about road rage, but I think a lot of reckless drivers (lane changers, tailgaters, etc) do so because they don't, as you said, acknowledge the fact that there are other human beings driving the cars that are cutting off and endangering the safety of.

    18. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by lawpoop · · Score: 1
      "...the facial expressions that a car can make are probably nothing like actual social cues, and that they would not be similar enough to trigger expression recognition code in your brain"

      I think the fact that they actually look like facial expressions, which anybody can recognize without any training, is evidence that they *do* trigger expression recognition in the brain. As a side note, I've always felt very strongly since I was a kid that looking at head-lights and rear-bumper lights were like staring at a pair of eyes. Eye recognition is one something very common in animal visual systems, and is exploited by a lot of prey animals to scare aware predators. There are tons of butterflies, caterpillers, etc. with 'eye patterns' on them that would belong to a relative large face. These eye patterns are nothing but a couple of high-contrast does. Eyes are the basically are simply dark holes, a pair of organic camera obscuras.

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    19. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      I want a hands-free car-to-car phone, addressable by license plate.

      'Car! Call WJF-390, Alberta Canada'

      *ring*

      "Hello?"

      'Hey asshole, drive much???'

    20. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by pokeyburro · · Score: 1

      No kidding. One time I was changing lanes when the lady in destination lane pulled up to my rear and flashed her headlights at me. I was so distracted by her "expression" that I almost dropped my cellphone.

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    21. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a coworker who was runnig for some local office and she covered her back window with a election sign. I would never vote for someone that stupid.

    22. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by JunichiTelex · · Score: 1

      Weel, I would think simply looking in your mirror to judge distance would take less time then having to judge the distance and notice the car's emotion.

    23. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by winwar · · Score: 1

      Well, you are supposed to check your mirrors regularly anyway (to see where other vehicles are).

      The extra time looking at a vehicles expression is time that should be spent looking where you are going....

    24. Re:Doesn't this increase the danger? by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      I agree completely, and would like to clarify my position: a lot of people are carefree while driving thinking that they're walking or running, and can maneuver nimbly. I, on the other hand, am fully aware that I'm piloting a 2-ton machine which, while it has good brakes, can't stop on a dime and I realize that other vehicles may not have as good brakes, either.

      To me it's somewhat like programming (fancy that) -- if everything happens in an orderly fashion there's less chance of bugs. So I never swerve or cut people off; even driving in rush-hour traffic I tend to let people get in front of me simply due to the fact that I will not tailgate: I always leave 2 seconds, preferably 3, between the car in front of me and my car to give me time to stop if the driver slams on his brakes. (I've been a passenger in an accident in which the driver followed too closely, and learned from it.) Leaving that much space, though, during rush hour, encourages the other drivers to "fill in the hole" and I'm okay with that, I just back off a bit more. We're all going to get there pretty much at the same time, especially when it turns into a parking lot.

      Thanks for listening!

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  6. the new kids craze by CmdrGoatse · · Score: 5, Funny

    2 tonne furbies on wheels

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  7. How long.... by Rob+Carr · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...before the first news article "Driver of Glaring Car Shot to Death"?

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    1. Re:How long.... by Maxite · · Score: 1

      Sometime in ten years. A real question is though, when the car is crying, what fluid does it release? Gasoline, brake fluid, power steering fluid, transmission fluid, antifreeze, oil? If it doesn't release fluid, whats to prevent fluid from leaking out? Also, what facial expression will the car make when it gets rear-ended?

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    2. Re:How long.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Also, what facial expression will the car make when it gets rear-ended?

      O(|( )|)O

    3. Re:How long.... by Blingin'+AMD · · Score: 1

      Only the goatse guy knows...

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  8. emotional ricer.... by sickmtbnutcase · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder what expression a riced-out version will show when mom's minivan beats it in a drag race...

    1. Re:emotional ricer.... by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 1

      Easy...

      >_<

    2. Re:emotional ricer.... by swordboy · · Score: 1

      Don't Laugh (sorry for the RM file - use if you don't have it already).

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    3. Re:emotional ricer.... by gclef · · Score: 1

      It's already got the ability to "cry"...no problem.

    4. Re:emotional ricer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ouch! 25 lbs of boost with factory block, rods and pistons. Still any lead foot dick head can go fast in a straight line. I wonder what it would be like to sit next to a minvan listening to the turbo spool up?

    5. Re:emotional ricer.... by Superfarstucker · · Score: 1

      It actually takes a considerable amount of skill to extract the maximum potential from high powered automobiles. I can see where your coming from, however, as your 1.5 litre honda motor really doesn't put out much juice.

    6. Re:emotional ricer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need tons of horsepower to really outrun someone in a drag race. Lots of it. Also, get up around 95, and most chicken out. That's when you punch it, and get up to 140 (you have the horsepower, don't you?).
      Soon, only the serious will be left to keep up. You need to be stone cold sober, and have the reflexes of a fighter pilot, or don't try it. Also, you need to plan ahead, way ahead. Know your road beforehand. This is a serious, deadly game you are playing.

  9. Why not incorperate it to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the friggin cell phone that is glued to everyone's head.

  10. Oh great by dacarr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just what we need. All these hotrodders and riceboys that soup up their cars to bounce or sound like they go faster than they're going, and now we have the manufacturers participating in a slightly backhanded way.

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    1. Re:Oh great by fox8118 · · Score: 1
      Just what we need. All these hotrodders and riceboys that soup up their cars to bounce or sound like they go faster than they're going, and now we have the manufacturers participating in a slightly backhanded way.


      What? You mean that dealer lied to me when he said those stickers gave an extra 5 horse power?
    2. Re:Oh great by tomhudson · · Score: 1
      I donno. When they write this:
      a car with an antenna that wags, an adjustable body height, headlights that vary in intensity
      ... it kind of sounds like the first shitbox I owned :-) Does that count as prior art?
  11. Fargin Iceholes! by Aerog · · Score: 2, Funny

    So does this include a speech distorter so it sounds like the car is screaming obscenities at the rest of the idiots out there?

    I'd set mine to "Bender"

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    1. Re:Fargin Iceholes! by mog007 · · Score: 1

      Oh great... now in rush hour traffic we can hear thousands of "bite my shiny metal ass" on the way to work.

  12. not good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great. One more thing for people to concentrate on instead of driving. People can't handle using their turn signals, is having a selector to show a dozen different emotions going to help any?

  13. Herbie the Lovebug by LineGrunt · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I believe Walt Disney can demonstrate prior art via the Herbie the Lovebug series of movies...

    Duh!

    LG

    1. Re:Herbie the Lovebug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually Herbie did none of those things. Have you even ever seen any of the movies?!?

    2. Re:Herbie the Lovebug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just about every cartoon out there that featured an anthropamorphic vehical can be considered prior art. But who said anything about prior art being in the way of getting a patent?

  14. When is Microsoft going to patent... by saskboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    When is Microsoft going to patent...
    The crying computer?

    Install Windows ME and Office XP on a Pentium 166MMX, with 64MB of RAM, and it'd cry too. Sorry, that would be me crying, so I guess the patent would have to be for computers that make humans cry...

    And some flavour of Linux could patent a computer that gives out free beer.

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    1. Re:When is Microsoft going to patent... by saskboy · · Score: 1

      That post was most certainly not offtopic. I mean, it discussed silly patents, and crying.

      It was a joke. Just because something car related, has a Microsoft reference, doesn't make it automatically offtopic. I hope you were metamoderated out of existance.

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  15. The future is here! by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait... No, thats totally (for lack of better word, no offense to anyone) Gay. Very Gay. When are you going to make them fly like you promised in the 50's? Thats the future I want. I want a flying car with laser cannons! And missles that come out of the tail pipe! With a racing stripe!

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    1. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you can't think of a word better than 'gay', then I think you should go back to remedial English for a while before posting anywhere, much less /.

    2. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah baby. Give me some raw tailpipe action. Let's see that surprise as I slide it in...

      BTW, you are a homophobe.

    3. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get bent.

    4. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't listen to all of these stupid fags who bitch about your choice of words.

      It's a very descriptive word that has a very nuanced meaning. Those queers who don't want to admit this should just suck a dick and shut the fuck up.

    5. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great come-back, you should write comedy.

    6. Re:The future is here! by iabervon · · Score: 1

      It all depends on who your car winks at. And using your car's headlights as eyes gives it a great excuse to stare a foot below women's eyes.

    7. Re:The future is here! by Nafai7 · · Score: 1

      If it is 'gay', it's cool and trendy! Which an emotional car could be that... hmm....

    8. Re:The future is here! by bugnuts · · Score: 1

      ... at her fenders?

      or the spare tire?

    9. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      I want a flying car with laser cannons! And missles that come out of the tail pipe! With a racing stripe!

      With blackjack... and hookers... in fact forget the car.
    10. Re:The future is here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      gay means happy and homosexual means people who are attracted to their own gender.
      They can call themselves whatever they want to but they will not create a new definition of an old word for me. If anyone wants to refer to their demographic as some otherwise common word, I will not suffer their anger for my continuing to use that word. The word Gay has never had a negative connotation, so don't dream one up.

  16. Call them automoticons by khendron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like smilies for cars to me ;-)

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    1. Re:Call them automoticons by zantispam · · Score: 4, Funny

      re: automoticons

      Didn't the Autobots beat them up?

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    2. Re:Call them automoticons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and their slogan is going to be:

      "does more than blink the eye"

      Bah dum!

      Thank you, thank you! I'll be here all week!

  17. Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny by Nakito · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope the inventors complied with their duty to submit a copy of "Roger Rabbit" to the patent office. Benny the Cab anticipates every technology described in the article.

    1. Re:Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1

      Not to mention Speed Buggy. (Was that the right name?) Vrooom-a-zoom-zoom!

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    2. Re:Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny by Diamon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sorry, Speed Buggy predates Benny by 15 years.

    3. Re:Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      ...And Speed Buggy, who's been around longer than Benny the Cab.

    4. Re:Prior art disclosure obligations and Benny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What there was that beatle bug, love bug? Car 5? 54? 3... whatever. It anticipates every technology described and is not animated!

  18. thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally, a patent that will block a BAD idea. Thanks Toyota!

  19. As if my commute couldn't get worse... by ibullard · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...now I have to deal with being surrounded by crying cars on the way to work.

    Screw that.

  20. Speed Buggy? by mdrechsler · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did anyone else think of Speed Buggy or am I the only dope that remembers that show?
    http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServl et/showid-5028/Speed_Buggy/

    1. Re:Speed Buggy? by rworne · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think Wheelie And The Chopper Bunch is more accurate. In this show, the VW bug showed facial expressions with the lights and bumper as well as showing exclamations and other symbols on the windshield.

      Funny thing is, Wheelie was the only character on the show that didn't talk.

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    2. Re:Speed Buggy? by mrmez · · Score: 1

      Speed buggy and, to a lesser extent, Herbie the love bug came to my mind when I read this.

    3. Re:Speed Buggy? by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 1

      Nope, you're not a lone dope.

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  21. I want a chrome teeth grill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that will actually munch on other cars. An angry face just doesn't express my displeasure when someone cuts me off.

  22. Like a lion about to pounce? by Al+Dunsmuir · · Score: 1

    Brings "Bite Me!" to a whole new level!

    1. Re:Like a lion about to pounce? by Moofie · · Score: 1

      I like Hi. Cram it. better.

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  23. Incredible! by Pendersempai · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hehehehe... Japan is so funny. Anthropomorphic cars. Hehehe... Can we order them with Garfield stripes?

    1. Re:Incredible! by JPelorat · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but your top speed goes to shit and you have to stop to fill up the gas tank 6 times a day.

      And forget about swerving around any dogs in the road...

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  24. This is gonna look hilarious by OOO0000OO0O0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know those Chevron cars? Those toy and clay model ones that they use in the commercials and you can buy at gas stations? Well, that's what I think is going to happen. I am going to be laughing my ass off and on during my entire commute if this thing was introduced heavily into the market. As such, it is important to provide safety controls for the drivers and passengers laughing their heads off and not concentrating on the road.

    I propose that along with the car that has the expressions, when they get introduced into the general car population deep enough, that each be provided with a driver laughing restraint system, such as a swift kick in the balls by actuating the gas pedal or something.

    In other news, a car gets indicted for sexual harrassment.

    1. Re:This is gonna look hilarious by BluedemonX · · Score: 1

      I can't wait for Harley Davidson to licence the technology and hire the Hells Angels to work out the skinning.....

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  25. What kind of face . . . by kmankmankman2001 · · Score: 1

    does it make when it's flattened by an SUV?

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    1. Re:What kind of face . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont worry about that,

      it will smile since more damage will be done to the poorly designed SUV.

      kind of reminds me of the "paradox" from SNL.

      "one team designed it with the most advanced safety features ever, the other team included no safety features, and in fact made it destruct on impact throwing passengers up to 300 yards"

      which one is your SUV

    2. Re:What kind of face . . . by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Obviously, the headlights need some kind of shutters so that they can display an "X" shape.

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    3. Re:What kind of face . . . by kmankmankman2001 · · Score: 1

      The Canyonero . . . choice of Marge Simpson.

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  26. So instead of alternate fuels... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Instead the money is spent on making a car appear to have emotion. Why not just make a large magnifying glass or some other magnification device that allows other drivers to see the facial/ hand expressions of the drivers?

    Then again...

    1. Re:So instead of alternate fuels... by BelugaParty · · Score: 1

      What a novel idea! Maybe every car should have a wifi link streaming video to surrounding cars. A hud display can put the pictures of the immediately surrounding cars in a line on the windshield, like avatars or little IM pictures. It would be wonderful, and everyone would rejoice!

  27. Emotive crap. by Fallen+Andy · · Score: 1

    Oh. The beauty of our neuroses. Jeez. Doesn't this stuff just make you want to AARRGGH! I know it's end of july but pleeze Zeus (hey I live in Athens GR) can we have some real news

    1. Re:Emotive crap. by gclef · · Score: 1

      No, actually it made me giggle like a schoolgirl. I think this is great. I'd love to see a car like this on the roads...it would be hysterical. Heck, if you could retro-fit it to existing cars, I might add it to mine (depending on price).

  28. And? by Otter · · Score: 1
    If the patent system ain't broke, don't fix it:

    Snideness noted, but what exactly is "broke" here?

    • Prior art? I'm not sure Herbie counts.
    • Obvious? Like a lot of inventions, it's obvious after someone else has come up with it.
    • Stupid? Probably, but then don't buy one.
    1. Re:And? by Snowmit · · Score: 1

      Well if there's an objection to the awarding of this patent, it certainly isn't that it's obvious. I mean, I've now knows about the invention for at least 10-20 minutes and I *still* don't understand what it's good for.

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    2. Re:And? by cyborch · · Score: 1

      I think that Herbie actually would count as prior art. It is after all a car and it does display emotions. Remember that patents are about inventions not how they are used. If the inventors of a car that displays emotions choose only to use their invention in a movie how does that make it less of an invention? So, yeah, prior art.

      Prior art is where we have seen patents fail miserably a lot lately. This is yet another example of it. On top of that it IS kinda stupid. Admit it. Even though stupidity isn't in itself reason to void a patent it makes it stand out more so we might notice it.

      If it aint broke...

      When just about everyone here can find examples of prior art within seconds how can the people granting these patents miss it? Could it be because the authority granting patents earn money from granting patents are not the same people who have to uphold them, or even enforce them.

  29. For those who don't know... by jmkaza · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:For those who don't know... by jpetts · · Score: 2, Funny

      The real "love bug" beginning with those letters...

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    2. Re:For those who don't know... by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Herbie must feel pretty lonely after all these years, shouldn't someone introduce him to the Pussy Wagon ?

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  30. Patent critique? by k98sven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The patent system may be broken, but I don't really see how this would be an indication of it.

    At least to me, this is not an obvious idea.

    Unless of course, you have a Japanese sense of imagination. I'd trust the people who invented Domo-kun , Vending machines for 'used' underwear and heated, self-deodorizing toilets to come up with just about anything.

    1. Re:Patent critique? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, it's not an obvious idea .. if the patent were filed a hundred years ago. Facial expressions on cars have a long history in art, though. If you can get the patent in before the history, then that's fine. But that didn't happen here.

    2. Re:Patent critique? by mekkab · · Score: 1

      The patent system may be broken, but I don't really see how this would be an indication of it.


      This is slashdot; where quirky technology idea mixed with knee-jerk tinfoil-ism leads to front page story. I know I can't wait until my story on "Gaurdian robots running Embedded Linux that break through your windows and rape sleeping M$ users" makes it to the front page!

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    3. Re:Patent critique? by sosume · · Score: 1

      How many comic books do you have? I bet 1 out of 25 features a car with emotions. Science fiction books? Herbie? Prior art, prior art...

  31. I'll buy one when... by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

    ...it can star in a "Girls Gone Wild" video, flashing tits and drunk on jello shots.

  32. Imagine... by WD_40 · · Score: 1

    a beowulf cluster of these...

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    1. Re:Imagine... by mikiN · · Score: 1

      That was my idea, you insensitive clod!

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  33. New Improved Christine by Elsebet · · Score: 1

    "Whoa, whoa. You better watch what you say about my car. She's real sensitive." Now she will furrow her brows, headlights flashing in anger before running you over!

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  34. Sadly... by HaloZero · · Score: 1

    I believe Apple owns the patent to this.

    Ever booted a (much older) Mac with a bad disk? Or shutdown improperly and cause loss of data? It cries!

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  35. ABS disabled? What the hell? by Ayandia · · Score: 1

    So far I haven't had any problems with just glaring angrily at the other drivers myself, and my car's unchanging and expressionless front-end doesn't betray my internal turmoil OR get me shot at.

    They should get my stupid air bag and anti-lock brakes to work properly before they "humanize" cars.

  36. Most needed expressions... by meganthom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Forget anger and letting people merge in front of you... Here's what I want my car to be able to express:

    1) Oops!
    2) New to area.
    3) I'm completely lost.
    4) Medical emergency.
    5) Learner

    How many times are we angry with people who just happen to be dealing with one of the above and who we would easily forgive if we knew as much?

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    1. Re:Most needed expressions... by musikit · · Score: 1

      can i get a

      6) stupid F***IN tourist go home!

    2. Re:Most needed expressions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is actually a brilliant idea. +3 to awesome for you.

    3. Re:Most needed expressions... by solarwolf · · Score: 1

      You forgot one.
      6) I'm old! Go around!

    4. Re:Most needed expressions... by ViolentGreen · · Score: 1

      1) Oops!
      2) New to area.
      3) I'm completely lost.
      4) Medical emergency.
      5) Learner


      6) Old

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    5. Re:Most needed expressions... by ffejie · · Score: 1

      This was exactly what I was thinking when I clicked on the article. Granted, I ended up getting load of crap from that waste of time. I would like to also see:

      6) I'm in a rush.

      I have frequently considered installing a marquee type thing on the back of my car for this purpose. I drive a lot (100+ miles a day) can anyone tell?

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    6. Re:Most needed expressions... by SnappleMaster · · Score: 1

      That's a great idea, but how many people would just set it to "Medical emergency" and leave it there so that other drivers would get the heck out of the way?

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    7. Re:Most needed expressions... by cosmo7 · · Score: 1

      7) Enough already with the siren, I'm on my cellphone.

  37. Road Rage by guitaristx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Shouldn't the idea be to decrease road rage? It's a great novelty idea, but nothing more. As someone already mentioned, it distracts drivers from watching the road. That's partly the reason why there are many restrictions (at least, in the US) about blinking lights, moving parts, etc., on vehicles. Personally, I think the little spinny-things on the rims are annoying enough, and I'm not looking forward to the car giving me the same head-tilted-back, lower-lip-stuck-out, looking-out-from-under-a-goofy-looking-hat, I-wanna-be-like-the-rappers-on-TV expression as the driver.

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  38. It'll never sell by Bearpaw · · Score: 1

    Won't sell enough to mass-produce, anyway. Too many people revel in the emotional anonymity of riding in a metal box. If this really helped people communicate while driving, even in this limited second-hand way, they might have to acknowledge that they're sharing the road with other people, and they might be less inclined to drive so obliviously and/or obnoxiously to others. The market for that is way too small.

    1. Re:It'll never sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a japanese car. They will buy it whatever the cost.

  39. I wonder... by ZZeta · · Score: 1

    ...what's the disappointed-of-the-USPTO glare...

    Oh, wait, we (my car and me) never expected them to make any sense anyway....

  40. Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey they patented "Speed Buggy!!!" now it'll never come back to saturday morning ;-(

    Mike

  41. The real question by Guildencrantz · · Score: 1

    The real question, for me atleast, is whether or not it weeps for our future.

    ~~Guildencrantz

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    1. Re:The real question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ~~Guildencrantz

      Aren't you supposed to be dead?

  42. So, the patent office has never heard of by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1
  43. So it's on the front, right? by HaloZero · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's great, really, but what I'd rather like/need is a way to communicate with those people behind me, who like to tailgate.

    Something like, 'You do not have appropriate stopping distance. Back off, or I'll test my theory by way of brakes.'

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    1. Re:So it's on the front, right? by MisanthropicProgram · · Score: 1
      Not only that, but I would like to apploogize sometimes. There are times, for whatever reason, I'll do something stupid. Sometimes, especially here in Atlanta, traffic is so thick that you can't help doing someone stupid sometimes. It would be nice to somehow say "I'm sorry" to someone.

      I also really like your idea about the tailgaters. There's no excuse. Nine times out of ten, when I see an accident on the side of the road, it's a rear end collision. The tailgaters are also the people who bitch about the high insurance rates too.

    2. Re:So it's on the front, right? by unsung · · Score: 1


      I'd say that your brake lights are a good communication tool.

      You can make a bumper sticker that says, "I brake for tailgaters."

    3. Re:So it's on the front, right? by untaken_name · · Score: 0, Troll

      Sometimes, especially here in Atlanta, traffic is so thick that you can't help doing someone stupid sometimes.

      Hmm. The traffic must be *really* bad if you have time for that.

    4. Re:So it's on the front, right? by Jim_Hawkins · · Score: 3, Funny

      No. Do not test your theory by way of brakes. Even if they hit you, you still have to go through the hassle of exchanging information, talking with insurance, etc. That's annoying.

      Do what I do.

      Keep a realistic looking stuffed toy dog (even a cat does the trick) in your car -- it doesn't need to be big or anything -- just realistic looking. Then, when someone is tailgating you, calmly roll down your window and release Fido (make sure your hand doesn't stick out too far -- ruins the realism).

      Trust me...I almost died laughing when I tried it the first time. The guy slammed on his brakes and swerved to avoid hitting my "dog." And, well, let's just say he kept a healthy distance after that.

    5. Re:So it's on the front, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geeze and when you cause someone to be killed by that stunt and go to jail I bet you'll be laughing your way through 10 years too I bet!

      The more people there are like you , the less people we need like you.

    6. Re:So it's on the front, right? by TheAwfulTruth · · Score: 1

      I always thought that it was telling that we have so many hand jestures for "F*CK YOU" and none for "I'm Sorry"...

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    7. Re:So it's on the front, right? by HaloZero · · Score: 1

      I wish that were true anymore. Usually, that's what I'll do - tap the brakes a few times. 90% of the people who seem to love my bumper don't get it. That, or they can't see my brake lights, which would not surprise me. Usually, it's someone in an unnecssarily large pickup or a Ford Exploder or other such monstrosity.

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    8. Re:So it's on the front, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That should come standard with all hatch-backs... it's as if the sight of a smaller back end means "ride my ass". (I always thought it was the larger the "back end"...)

    9. Re:So it's on the front, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So...just stay off his ass and he won't have to throw his fake bitch. And, my guess is...he's kidding.

      (Heck, sometimes I'd like to throw my bitch out the window. I mean...err...sorry honey!)

  44. Automobile voice chat by dustman · · Score: 1

    I have always thought that a cheap sort of CB radio available in every car would be very useful to increasing driver courtesy.

    Maybe the radio receivers could tell which direction a transmission was coming from, and provide cues to people in the car (by positioning the voice across the speakers, or something).

    Or maybe that wouldn't be necessary, in Counter-Strike you don't necessarily know the location of your teammates, but the voice chat helps immensely.

    I think one of the problems with driving, that causes a lot of stress, is that your interaction with other people is very impersonal, and what communication can be done is through a very narrow channel (flashing your lights, waving your hand, etc)...

    How many times have you pulled to a 4-way stop slightly after someone else, but they aren't moving. You feel a little frustrated, you wonder what's wrong with the other guy. Then, after 20 seconds or so, you both move at the same time, now you're saying to yourself, "What's this idiot's problem?"...

    But, if you pulled up slightly after him, and he said "oh, you go right through, I need to help my wife find the pen in the glove compartment", everything is much smoother.

    I guess it probably couldn't happen for technology reasons, it might be too hard to make a good user interface... But, it would solve a lot of problems imo...

    1. Re:Automobile voice chat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're on to something there. Maybe you should shoot it over to Onstar and see what they say. Have an option to talk with other Onstar users.

    2. Re:Automobile voice chat by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Amen, I've always thought the same thing. How much road rage could've been averted if someone had apologised? How often have people wanted to say "go ahead"?

      Conversely, how often have you wanted to pick up the blonde in the next car. Or warn oncoming traffic that you just passed a speed trap. Or call the guy puttering along in the fast lane a retarded road-turd.

      Either way, this is long overdue. CB has numerous usability issues that come from its nature as a radio transmission. Maybe that could be fixed now with more modern techniques?

    3. Re:Automobile voice chat by Coulson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The drawback is that you'll get the internet/chat room phenomenon. Anonymous communication leads to insults ('u r g4y'), flame wars, etc. Some people would hopefully use it well, but (as with CB radio), it risks turning into a pissing contest.

      That said, when you commute you're traveling as part of a community of drivers. I think that having the ability to convey a limited set of phrases ('go ahead', 'thank you', 'sorry/my bad') would be beneficial. Pre-programmed voice macros would solve the problem: give people the ability to transmit, but enfore curteous phrasing. As soon as you open it up to allow people to say anything, it's likely to lead to more road rage.

    4. Re:Automobile voice chat by dustman · · Score: 1

      I thought of this, but I don't think it would be anything nearly as bad as you are saying.

      How often to you get people milling around in a supermarket, turning into a pissing contest? It happens sometimes, but not frequently.

      And, the ability to set a user on "ignore" would help, too.

      You mention the "internet/chat room phenomenon", but, a point against that, is again bringing up Counter-Strike (and other half-life mods): This is a community not known for its maturity, but surprisingly little "voice chat abuse" occurs, because it's easy to just simply click a person's name and you won't hear them anymore.

      The problem, again, is one of user interface, I think. If the driver is distracted, searching for how to /ignore some teenage punk, then that's bad.

    5. Re:Automobile voice chat by Pendersempai · · Score: 1

      I think it would also increase the potential for road rage by orders of magnitude. Right now, drivers give one another the finger and pantomime screaming (or actually scream, but it's all the same to the other driver) and that's it. With your device, they'd get involved in protracted shouting matches, which when done in person escalate into physical shoving and intimidation. On the road, that escalation might find its analogue in tailgating, nudging, or worse. And it certainly would lead to less aware driving.

    6. Re:Automobile voice chat by mikiN · · Score: 1
      Maybe that could be fixed now with more modern techniques?
      One word. BlueTooth.
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  45. Hmmm, Is This Good? by blueZhift · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This certainly sounds like it could be useful, as generally more communication is a good thing. But from my own observations, I'm not entirely sure that the other driver knowing what I'm thinking/feeling is a good thing. I've had plenty of thoughts about the asinine driving of other people that probably would have resulted in fights rather than better understanding! I, of course, drive perfectly!

  46. Not obvious? by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    Perhaps - but certainly not new.

    Herbie the Love Bug

    and, of course, his cartoon brother,

    speed buggy

    1. Re:Not obvious? by Braves+Fan · · Score: 1

      Herbie, Speed Buggy, and animated Chevron cars would not qualify as prior art. Unless you believe Star Trek would count as prior art for someone trying to patent a working transporter.

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    2. Re:Not obvious? by Sloppy · · Score: 1
      With a Star Trek transporter, there's the big question of how do you do it. With this stuff, the engineering is trivial. The only innovative thing is that they decided to do it. Everything else about it -- what to do, how to do it, is already known.

      Just what is the invention? What work did they put into it? As far as I can tell, the only work they might have done is marketing: someone got the idea that maybe customers might actually want this feature. Maybe they did some research or a poll.

      To put it another way: we grant patent monopolies in order to encourage inventors to do something. What is the something in this case, that the prospect of a patent monopoly has encouraged them to do? What is the thing they did, which wouldn't be profitable unless they were given a monopoly by the government?

      If the marketing research is the only R&D that they put into it, I think granting a patent on that is going to be pretty dangerous. That means if some media company's marketing department discovers that Boy Bands are able to sell CDs in high numbers, then other media companies can't also flood the market with Bo-- hey wait a minute. I changed my mind. Braves Fan, you are right! They should be granted a patent on this at once.

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    3. Re:Not obvious? by sosume · · Score: 1

      My little nephew has a car with eyes as headlights and a big smiling mouth on the front bumper. It has a cord which can be pulled to make the car move.

      Maybe Toyota's implementation was different, the concept is the same.

  47. dayam i m getting one of those fo sho by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    and i'm installing hydros on it yea!

  48. Herbie nothing! Wonderbug! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds more like Wonderbug (aka Schleppcar) from the Kroft show of the same name.

  49. how long? by imthatguy · · Score: 0

    well its already happened.....in Japan!

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    1. Re:how long? by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      In Japan? What did he get shot with? A spitball?

      LK

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    2. Re:how long? by mikiN · · Score: 1
      In Japan? What did he get shot with? A spitball?

      Why, a front or rear wheel fired rim-mounted shuriken blade, of course! (inconspicuously concealed in the design of the rims)

      I, for one, welcome our new Autobot Overlords!

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  50. Cute factor = +10 by Audigy · · Score: 1

    OMG KAWAII!!! (sarcasm) ...Great, now cars can profess disgust and joy just like little virtual avatars in games like Ragnarok Online and Final Fantasy XI. ...though the concept is a little bit intriguing. I still need one of those scrolling LED signs to stick in my rear-view mirror. The possibilities are endless.

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  51. elementry school - police car VW bug did it. by emptybody · · Score: 1

    in the 70's the cops would come to school and bring a tricked out VW bug. it had modified headlight eyes that winked and blinked and turned on command.
    it had a modified hood mouth that opened and closed to "talk"
    and the fenders would move too I think.
    also had a hat :)

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    1. Re:elementry school - police car VW bug did it. by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

      so what was the message supposed to be?

      "kids, you should stay away from drugs, otherwise..."

  52. bAH! by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can see it now... "Driver slipped off icy road when tears (from car) landed on ice"

  53. Yeah, whatever.... by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    how about increasing fuel efficiency? (yes, even more.

    or making them safer (fundementally instead of bigger and heavier)

    or better communication integration for the ever-pressed-to-the-ear cell phones

    or better collision avoidance systems

    or making headlights that can be "ub3r" that don't blind everyone on the road

    Yeah, making sure the car has emotions and becomes more distracting is a stellar idea. Yesh.

    1. Re:Yeah, whatever.... by CrankyFool · · Score: 3, Insightful
      > how about increasing fuel efficiency? (yes, even more or making them safer (fundementally instead of bigger and heavier)

      These are the Japanese we're talking about here, not the American auto industry. Their cars are the most gas-efficient mass-produced cars you can get in the US. They're making some larger SUVs, but only because that's what Americans want to buy. You can still buy a high-efficiency Civic.

      >or better communication integration for the ever-pressed-to-the-ear cell phones

      Have you seen the Acura's Bluetooth integration?

      >or better collision avoidance systems

      So we can have every slashdotter bitch about how that takes away from their control and they can't trust an automated system to do their avoidance for them?

      >or making headlights that can be "ub3r" that don't blind everyone on the road

      Yeah, what's up with that? We want lights that put out tons of visible light and throw it out far, but that won't blind anyone who looks at them. Is that so hard?

    2. Re:Yeah, whatever.... by ViolentGreen · · Score: 1

      Well I was reading this thread and taking it pretty lightly since it probably won't happen.

      You raise an excellent point. Why spend millions of dollars on "eye candy" when there is so much more that NEEDS to be done with automobiles.

      Thanks for a most insightful comment.

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    3. Re:Yeah, whatever.... by Coulson · · Score: 1

      or making headlights that can be "ub3r" that don't blind everyone on the road

      What about polarizing headlights and windshields at a 45-degree angle, so that you can see the reflection from your headlights, but oncoming headlights won't blind you?

      Or, to make sure you can still see oncoming cars in the dark, polarize at a 40-degree angle. It would still cut down on the glare. Then you could crank up the output (or leave it the same but have less night-blindness due to glare).

    4. Re:Yeah, whatever.... by Q+Who · · Score: 1

      Based on your comment, I would say that you are a useless, bitter person, who never created anything worthful in his life.

      Grow up, get a life.

  54. Useless if you live in Boston by neuguy · · Score: 1

    I drive in Boston every day, I would always leave it on heart attack angry face.

  55. Adjustable body height by Patik · · Score: 1

    Snoop Dogg's cars have had this ability for years.

  56. There's an easier solution.... by dcigary · · Score: 1

    ...based on a routine I heard from a stand-up comic once:

    "Every car should be required to have a cell phone, and the license plate is the phone number".

    I can just imagine what kind of chaos that would cause...

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  57. Prior Art by jmpresto_78 · · Score: 1

    Prior art can definitely be found here:

    Benny the Cab in Who Framed Roger Rabbit

  58. here's an idea by sickmtbnutcase · · Score: 1

    (If applicable) flip your rear window washer over so it sprays upward and fill it with oil.
    Not saying I've done it. Just an idea.

    1. Re:here's an idea by HaloZero · · Score: 1

      1) Don't have a rear window washer.
      2) Oil is a little too dense for the washer-fluid pump.
      3) I wonder if I'd be responsible for deaths. Catch me if you can!

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    2. Re:here's an idea by Aerog · · Score: 1

      ...used to work with a guy who had his front washer nozzles angled outward, so as to spray the people next to him at a traffic light.

      Still not a bad idea, though....

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  59. Closely related by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For a while now I've been meaning to build an LED display for the back of my car so I can flash messages like GET OUT FROM UP MY ASS and plain old FUCK YOU! to whoever's tailgating me.

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    1. Re:Closely related by NetNinja · · Score: 1

      It's all fun and games until you piss the person off behind you and he blows you away with his 12 guage shotgun with slug rounds.

    2. Re:Closely related by bombom · · Score: 1

      How about you simply move over to the right lane when doing 60 in a 70 zone so that people don't have to tail you?

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    3. Re:Closely related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Local ordinances often prohibit public profanity, and despite court challenges they have almost always been upheld. I suggest you reconsider what messages to use.
      On a side note, their system sound like it would be more automatically activated. (I didn't read this article, just the NYT story.)

    4. Re:Closely related by Ibanez · · Score: 1

      Up until I turned sixteen I wanted to get a neon sign of a hand giving the middle finger I could mount in the rear window of my truck. I thought it would be hilarious, and be easier than actually doing it myself. Then I got over the idea and realized how not funny it was.

      I'm now in college and for some odd reason, I now think it would be hilarious again.

    5. Re:Closely related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you just move over one lane and let the car pass you?

      I hate people that get into the fast lane and then pace the car to their right. That's just arrogant.

    6. Re:Closely related by Blastrogath · · Score: 1

      How about you simply move over to the right lane when doing 60 in a 70 zone so that people don't have to tail you?

      Atitudes like this are why I like beefed up rear bumpers and "I brake for tailgaters" stickers.

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    7. Re:Closely related by superflippy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because I'm going 80 in a 70 zone and I'm
      a) too nice of a person to let you go 110 and get a ticket.
      b) driving a car too tall to fit underneath the truck in the lane next to me.
      c) pretending I'm in NASCAR by letting you draft 3 inches from my bumper.
      d) secretly amused by your obvious frustration.

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    8. Re:Closely related by Aerog · · Score: 1

      You have my vote with one exception. How about move over to the right lane ALL THE TIME?

      Atitudes like this are why I like beefed up rear bumpers and "I brake for tailgaters" stickers.
      I'm more of the school of "moving right should be obvious". If you're not the fastest thing in your lane, move one lane right. Repeat. If you're faster than the next guy, move one lane left. Then move back right. Is that so hard? Just because I need to turn off in 8 blocks doesn't mean I drive in the left lane all the way there!

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    9. Re:Closely related by bombom · · Score: 1

      Attitudes like what?

      The smoothest flowing traffic is the safest traffic. When a-holes are driving in the left lane below the speed limit, they create an artificial bottleneck restricting traffic flow.

      All us regular drivers are asking is that you move over when someone wants to pass you, and not be a tool and try to hold traffic back just cause someone had the balls to get you to move over. No one is asking you to speed up, you can granny drive in the right lane just as well as you can in the left lane.

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    10. Re:Closely related by Blastrogath · · Score: 2

      There are 3 or 4 roads where I live that have more than 2 lanes. Tailgating is not limited to freeways, it happens plenty on 2 lane roads. The whole right/left lane issue is a red herring.

      Tailgating doesn't take "balls", it takes stupidity and a disregard for the safety of others. If you need to prove your manhood by driving recklessly then there isn't much there to prove the existance of anyway.

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    11. Re:Closely related by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      I learned to drive in a country where people understand the difference between right and left and so if I'm driving slower I'll already be in the right lane. Unfortunately, as far as I can see, most Americans don't know the difference.

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    12. Re:Closely related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dont' forget:

      E) Because I live in Memphis, when you come up behind me going 110, I'm moving over simply to load my MAC-10 and lower my window. Live and learn; die and the world is short one jackass.

    13. Re:Closely related by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      No one is asking you to speed up, you can granny drive in the right lane just as well as you can in the left lane.

      I wish that was true, but I'm routinely tailgated while in the right lane goning 79 in a 70. About twice a month, someone will get behind me in the right lane, pull up real tight and never pass me. Exits go by, I flash my brakes. Half the time they are so busy yacking the don't even know.

      Anyway, there are two kinds of tailgaters. Those who do it to make a point and those who always do it no matter what. Both are evil, but the second kind really make me angry.

      Don't tailgate me when I'm in the right lane or when I'm waiting for the car in front of me to get the f%6& out of the way.

    14. Re:Closely related by dragonman97 · · Score: 1

      ROFL! Nice to see you around these parts, Flippy :).

    15. Re:Closely related by AndyChrist · · Score: 1

      I don't drive below the speed limit in the left lane. I get tailgated by a-holes who are driving WAAAAY above the speed limit. (If 75-80 isn't fast enough for you, go to a fucking race track)

      Don't assume. You know what happens when you assume.

    16. Re:Closely related by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 1

      You're right. I really need to add the head-up display and reverse firing rocket launchers at the same time.

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    17. Re:Closely related by superflippy · · Score: 1

      Whaddya know! It's always nice to a fellow Superfan on /.

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    18. Re:Closely related by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      when I was picking out a lightbar, this one came into mind: http://www.whelen.com/hires/mgm02coarb.jpg, but as a fireman, everyone behind me will be far away since I'll just be going really fast to get somewhere, I don't see how it would benefit. Even if I went to a car accident, I'd just throw on my hazards, but that is still pretty cool.

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  60. how does that work? by dAzED1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I posed a question when I submitted this story yesterday: they claim that the horn only sends one message, and doesn't allow you to thank someone who lets you cut in. How does a smile on the front of your car tell someone behind you thanks? I always found that a simple wave accomplished this quite well, myself.

  61. Finally! by Randolpho · · Score: 1

    It's about time a patent was issued for something *valid* for a change.

    If this were compared to most software patents, it would be a patent for the concept of using an automatic transmission gear-shifter, decades after nearly every car has an automatic transmission.

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  62. "Awake" car by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

    An "awake" car would have "open shutters, headlights fringed with complementary 'eyebrows,' an erect antenna and brighter glass and exterior panels."

    So it has an erect antenna and it's batting eyebrows uh? I'm sure this car has great pimping potential...

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  63. Patent is hack of Herbie the Love Bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It definately sounds like a hack of Herbie the love bug. There are probably other lesser known instances of prior art to the patent in old issues of popular mechanics or some old wonders of technology documentary in black/white tv. This is yet another example that the patent system is broken.

  64. Chevron with Techron? by greymond · · Score: 1

    Sure i'd get a car that showed emotion, but i'm a sucker for over-priced, non-essential, almost-useless-gadgets....BUT by the description I immediately thought of the Chevron with Techron commercials. First I thought - "hay if my car looked/acted like that it'd be kinda cool" but then I thought "Does this count as Prior Art? Could Chevron sue Toyota or some such lame as scenario?"

  65. Quintessentially Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man this is sooo Janpanese. Whimiscal, imaginative, fun, anthropomorphizing machinery, almost-makes-sense-but-totally-impractical.

    How many reasons, here's 2:
    - drivers already have way to much crud going on like cellphones, food, entertainment systems, etc; we don't need people spending time communicating by freaking semaphore with their neighbors on the highway at 60 mph
    - more non-essential parts to break (we don't all drive new cars); what happens if the mechanism stops working in glare-mode, Am I gonna pay for rent or getting it back in smiley-mode?

  66. BBC series addresses similar issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The BBC series with John Cleese entitled "The Human Face" explores this notion a little bit. I'm not surprised at all that someone is trying to implement it.
    It sounds like these engineers are trying to take what is essentially a blank stare (your hood/grill) and give it some (small) flexibilty. Most of the emoting we do while driving never makes it past the windshield, and we end up feeling like people are ignoring us. The simple ability to express ourselves and get some reaction in return may do a lot to lessen peoples' anger at other drivers. In any case, check out the DVD...

  67. scared car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When one of these cars is really scared, will it start leaking?

  68. Driving is serious business. by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    But, if you pulled up slightly after him, and he said "oh, you go right through, I need to help my wife find the pen in the glove compartment", everything is much smoother.

    Driving is serious business.

    Driving is not a time to help someone find a pen. It is time to follow the rules of the road. Don't mess with the rules, just follow them.

    If you have other business to deal with, take care of it some other time.

    Thanks,
    A Decent Driver

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  69. Your Rights Online? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Huh?

  70. "Damn you, KITT!" by payndz · · Score: 1
    "KITT! Why the hell are there suddenly 50 pimped-out lowriders chasing us and firing Uzis?"

    "I'm sorry, Michael - I honestly thought it would make them happy if I winked at them!"

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    1. Re:"Damn you, KITT!" by glossator · · Score: 1

      Well, you can always get out of that predicament by pressing Turbo Boost or Oil Slick (not to mention the ubiquitous Micro Jam)...

  71. I don't drive by firstposter161 · · Score: 1

    You insensitive clod

  72. Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mentions patents... check.
    stupid features only a male virgin could get excited about... check.
    comment upon comment demonstrating a genuine interest in this "story"... check
    obligatory bleeding-hearts complaining we should be more worried about the environment... check

    Yeah, this is slashdot alright.

  73. Possesed cars by adewolf · · Score: 1

    What will be the autoemoteicon for possesed cars like in the film The Car:
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/ -/6305 511861/qid=1090871045/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-08236 99-1556664?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

    Alex

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    1. Re:Possesed cars by adewolf · · Score: 1

      OOps corrected link:
      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail /-/6305 511861/qid=1090871295/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-082369 9-1556664?v=glance&s=dvd

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  74. I, for one... by ALeavitt · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our gas-powered, robotically expressive overlords. Wait a minute, how is that different from the last set of overlords?

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  75. Cleaning up after it? by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    A car that acts like a pet? Great, now I'll have to carry around a bunch of jumbo sized trash bags and a glove to pick up my car's "messes".

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    1. Re:Cleaning up after it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My car already does that, excretes various fluids, I can't leave it one place too long, gotta keep moving along to fresh territory.

  76. Why don't they make them really representative by Loco3KGT · · Score: 2, Funny

    And make their larger SUVs look like male genitalia?

    Or is Chevy already trying to do that with the Corvette?

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  77. OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 0

    Ok, then what is the correct word that will convey the exact same feeling to the audience of slashdot. One of the reasons why there are a bilion ways of saying the same thing in the English language, is that each one has its own sublte nuances that affect the meaning. So while you may deride my word choice lacking imagination, the fact is that the words I did use were the correct ones in this case and anyother words would have changed the meaning. So while a group of people ( gay, lesbian, transgender) may take offense of the charterisation, the reality is that the word really transends their use of it as a descriptor of their sexuality. In fact, there are still those that resent that very same community for adopting the word "Gay" for their use.

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    1. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, if the word "gay" has a specific descriptive meaning that applies in this case, could you enlighten the rest of us and give us "your" definition of "gay" in this context?

    2. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong, and obnoxious.

      You think the word "gay" communicates "bad, evil, etc." What it communicates in REALITY is "I'm an asshole, a homophobic biggot, and oh yeah, I don't like this." Want a better word? Sure!

      -Stupid
      -Awful
      -Useless
      -Silly
      -Worthless
      - Ridiculous

      If some of those don't work, well, it's not my fault. You're the one who's not communicating clearly!

      Your poor vocabulary is no excuse for being offensive.

    3. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. It is gay.

    4. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by lubricated · · Score: 1

      > Ok, then what is the correct word that will convey the exact same feeling to the audience of slashdot.

      faggety.
      homo sexual.
      etc. . .

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    5. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by linzeal · · Score: 1
      Lame, n00bish...

      Saying things are 'gay' is like calling something 'nigger rigged'.

    6. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by sinnfeiner1916 · · Score: 0

      there is no right to not be offended. it might fall under 'persuit of happiness,' but then again, there is no right to actually /be/ happy, just to try. obviously, no one can guarantee happiness.

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    7. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it is not.

      Gay has an actual definition in the English language that existed long before it was used to refer to male homosexuals.

      gay
      adj 1: bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer; "a cheery hello"; "a gay sunny room"; "a sunny smile" [syn: cheery, sunny] 2: full of or showing high-spirited merriment; "when hearts were young and gay"; "a poet could not but be gay, in such a jocund company"- Wordsworth; "the jolly crowd at the reunion"; "jolly old Saint Nick"; "a jovial old gentleman"; "have a merry Christmas"; "peals of merry laughter"; "a mirthful laugh" [syn: jocund, jolly, jovial, merry, mirthful] 3: given to social pleasures often including dissipation; "led a gay Bohemian life"; "a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies" 4: brightly colored and showy; "girls decked out in brave new dresses"; "brave banners flying"; "`braw' is a Scottish word"; "a dress a bit too gay for her years"; "birds with gay plumage" [syn: brave, braw] 5: offering fun and gaiety; "a gala ball after the inauguration"; "a festive (or festal) occasion"; "gay and exciting night life"; "a merry evening" [syn: gala(a), festal, festive, merry] 6: homosexual or arousing homosexual desires [syn: queer, homophile(a)] n : someone who practices homosexuality; having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex [syn: homosexual, homo]

      Note: only the last definition has anything to do with homosexuality. "Nigger rigged" on the other hand is a definite racial slur. Just because the homosexual community has decided to use an English word to refer to their lifestyle doesn't mean the word does not have other unrelated uses.

    8. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by mrmagos · · Score: 0

      Saying things are 'gay' is like calling something 'nigger rigged'.

      ahem...I beileve the PC term for that is Afro-engineered.

      oh yeah, I'm going to hell for that.

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    9. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by drfeces · · Score: 1

      Words often undergo a meaning shift, don't blame it on the person that uses the word, instead blame it on the society that shifted the meaning. The word "gay" just so happened to be a word that has shifted meaning a few times.

      "Gay" used to be a synonym for "happy" or "fun". The Flintstones invited everyone to "...have a gay ol' time." Everybody knew what that meant at the time.

      Then "gay" shifted, homosexuals or fruity folks started being referred to as "gay". People got pissed, some didn't care, oh well. You can stand in front of a steamroller, jump up and down, scream curses at it and give it dirty looks all you want but that won't stop it from rolling right over you.

      Now, the meaning of "gay" has shifted again. Sure, "gay" kept its previous meanings but "gay" can now also be used to describe something that is undesirable because of its ridiculousness or something that "sucks" or is "stupid". Once again, getting mad and calling names is not going to stop it. What's done is done, live with it. It's not going away.

      BTW, as far as I know, the word "gay" does not in any way communicate "evil", that is your inclusion and perhaps your opinion.

      I feel that the only mistake the original poster made was to apologize for his use of the word "gay" before he used it, conveying the sense that he himself was not entirely comfortable with its use. The sharks smelled blood and attacked...

    10. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

      Please keep other people's feelings under consideration.

      The current politically correct version of "nigger rigged" is "Afro-Engineered".

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    11. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by BenVis · · Score: 1

      "You can stand in front of a steamroller, jump up and down, scream curses at it and give it dirty looks all you want but that won't stop it from rolling right over you."

      I agree that the meanings of words will inevitably change as attitudes and values change. As responsible people it is incumbent on us to pay attention to these changes and notice the attitudes and values they convey. Using the term gay in place of some other negative word or phrase reflects an attitude I don't share, so I don't do it.

      If one feels that being gay is a bad or ridiculous thing, well, everyone is entitled to an opinion. I just think we should acknowledge the implications of our word choice and take responsibility for them.

      And back on topic: I just yell when someone is driving rudely. They don't hear me (so they aren't distracted), and it makes me feel better. I don't think these cars are such a good idea. Maybe they patented it so nobody could do it?

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    12. Re:OT: an obvious rant on word choice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, slashdottese equivalent to "nigger-rigged" would be "kludged".
      Slashdottese equivalent to "gay" would be "Marketing likes this..."

  78. I bet... by Digz · · Score: 1

    ..that the emotions EASILY add at least 50 HP to a ricer! Man, with this and the wiper LEDs you'd be unbeatable!!

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  79. lots of potential... by mr_spatula · · Score: 1

    Will it have an "Oh shit!" expression when you wreck?

    Will it vomit windshield fluid if the driver is drunk?

    1. Re:lots of potential... by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 1

      Instead of an "oh shit" expression, how about building cars that crap solid blocks of waste instead of polluting the air?

      Then pass legislation to make the owners pick their cars crap up and put it in a bin?

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    2. Re:lots of potential... by mikiN · · Score: 1

      >Instead of an "oh shit" expression, how about building cars that crap solid blocks of waste instead of polluting the air?
      That wouldn't be too nice for those driving behind you, now wouldn't it? (Imagine being hit by a dense chunk of autopoop while doing 70).

      >Then pass legislation to make the owners pick their cars crap up and put it in a bin?
      Imagine people wandering all over the highway panning their motorized pet's excrements-now that would give a whole new meaning to the words 'traffic jam'. Or would it turn into a big (messy) pile-up?

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    3. Re:lots of potential... by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 1

      "Hello. Is that Fred's Autorepair Centre?"

      " Yes sir."

      "My Cavalier is constipated"

      "!"

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  80. "angrily at another car" ??? by guzzirider · · Score: 1

    What ever happened to the good old The Smith & Wesson Model 29?
    Do ya feel lucky, punk?

    Guzzi
    Dallas, Texas

  81. Heh, those cars already exist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Heh, those cars already exist! by BlueJay465 · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new car with personality overlords.

  82. Stupid. by Sir_Real · · Score: 1

    And thus begins the eternal war between the Autobots and Decepticons.

  83. This seems about right... by bangular · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's nice to see Toyota get a patent these days. They took a big hit when Honda got the patent for ricers.

    1. Re:This seems about right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be a local thing... around here the rice is all on the Neons and Cavaliers. A joint DaimlerChrysler/GM patent maybe?

  84. NO DISTRACTION THERE! :-( by enigmals1 · · Score: 0

    Yeah, you're not even suppose to have your dome light on at night while driving... I'm sure this won't be a distraction at all. *rolling eyes*

    And you think females on the phone driving in the left lane is bad now?! wait until they start having to play with their auto-emotion settings while driving! It will never make it into a production street-legal car.

  85. So if you are horny... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    ..will the car drive around all day long honking incessantly?

    How will we be able to tell if there is a traffic jam ahead, or several cars filled with teenagers?

    Damn teenagers.

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  86. That was really from the Onion, right?! by Anita+Coney · · Score: 2, Funny

    Right?!

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  87. Toyota Pod Concept by MooBob · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is just the patent for the Toyota Pod concept, featured in one of the Gran Turismo concept games. Here's a little bit more information: http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Toyota@$POD%20 Conceptb.html

    1. Re:Toyota Pod Concept by GTRacer · · Score: 1
      Dang - you beat me to it. Have you run the pod race yet? Odd event, but kinda charming with all the flashing and beeping.

      Especially if you rough up the CPU cars!

      GTRacer
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  88. I wanna hack one by MajorDick · · Score: 1

    If I do can I patent the EVIL portion ?

    A car that when you glare at someone it RUNS THEM OFF THE ROAD, Now that I would buy.

    Aside from that feature which I do not see listed the whole thing is well....

  89. Won't help much in MA. by pillageplunder · · Score: 1

    Unless of course they can have it show abject gibbering terror the first time it enters a rotary.

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  90. "Pick up" Lines by 10101001011 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait for the possible dating situations...

    Ford F-250 winks at the cute little Toyota Echo.

    "Hey good lookin', what's a car like you doin' on a highway like this?"

    Will that be premium or supreme?

    Can I change your oil?

    And my personal favorite:
    Wanna flash me?

    Thank you, I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your waitress and try the steak...

  91. Great... by sup191 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now my wife AND my car can look pissed at me all the time.

  92. Just what I need . . . by josquin9 · · Score: 1

    My car not starting after a red light because it's too busy flirting with the Mazda in the next lane.

  93. And i guess.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that the car will look worried when driving through a bad neighbourhood, making the poor driver the obvious target of a nice mid-day-mugging..

  94. prior art! by Arab · · Score: 1

    any number of cartoons and as mentioned earlier are prior art for this.

  95. A rare story by rbanzai · · Score: 1

    It's a rare /. story that can be interesting, funny, clever and stupid all at the same time.

  96. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very Informative Link

  97. Personal contact by Perianwyr+Stormcrow · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not just the anonymity that does it, it's the physical contact. If you go up to some guy in the super market and say "OH EMM GEE YOU ARE THE FUCKING GAYEST GUY ON EARTH DUBYA TEE EFF IS YOUR PROBLEM", you aren't insulated by tons of steel or miles of wire.

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    1. Re:Personal contact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misspelled "YUO", "TEH", "SI", "and "YUOR". Hope this helps.

  98. Great... by retodd · · Score: 1

    ...now I'll know if they guy who ran me over was drunk, sleeping at the wheel, or really pissed off at me

  99. Prior Art by siriuskase · · Score: 1

    Don't the Chevron cars count as prior art? Sure, they are just animations, but that counts as a design prototype.

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  100. What happened to the finger? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

    I liked the finger. That was a good program.

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  101. Well this is Japan... by cryptochrome · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...Therefore I wouldn't expect to see the middle finger much, but I would expect to see all the standard manga/anime visual icons.
    There's a good list of them here, along with all the appropriate emoticons, although they left out a bunch of other less common stuff (bloody nose for sexual overstimulation, snot bubble for sleeping, escaping spirit for half dead, completely white from shock, puking looks kind of like a waterfall), and certain mouth patterns (aggressive fangs).

    In particular, expect to see sweat drops, popping veins, and funny eyes. ^_^;

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    1. Re:Well this is Japan... by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

      Flipping the bird is a fairly common insult, I think. I know I've seen it in PLENTY of anime, sometimes combined with the "eyelid pull"

    2. Re:Well this is Japan... by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      Gee, you don't suppose the patent application slightly neglected to use the word "cartoon" regarding prior art? In addition to anime, there is a long history of emotion-expressing cars. "Speed Buggy", anyone?

    3. Re:Well this is Japan... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anime icons? Will these cars sport multiple tentacles?

  102. AND WHY CAN'T I PUT METAL IN THE MICROWAVE? by hudsonhawk · · Score: 1

    And what's the deal with airline food?

    Seriously, you're about as on-topic as the submitter's comment about the patent system. It's like seeing a story about case modding and saying, "OMG why are people spending effort on case modding when I still don't have holographic displays on my computer?!?"

  103. I'd like to see by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    it's expression as it drives off a cliff, right before impact and a nice big hollywood explosion.

    weep! weep! WAP

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  104. The only thing I need to communicate to drivers... by danish · · Score: 2, Funny

    is the middle finger. As a New Jerseyian (born and raised), I have a sub-two second roll down window/extend arm/raise middle finger time. It's second nature in situations like "soccer mom in minivan on my right doesn't even look out her left window and tries to change lanes into my car." My response then was an instictive, sub-second horn/brake/swerve/flip-bird.

    This system is sufficient for any and all inter-driver communication needs I could ever imagine.

  105. Erect Antennae! by glowfish · · Score: 1

    Now THAT's communication!

  106. First rule of inventors. by unsung · · Score: 1


    No. 1 rule for individual inventors, don't try to patent anything related to the automotive industry. That is an industry that patents *everything*, and will spend big money to protect it's IP.

  107. Great! This means Toyota... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...cars will have finally have some personality. God knows they need all they can get. Now we can have smiley toasters on wheels!

    -Z

  108. Better yet... by Cyno01 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mount it backwards in the front... "TURN YOUR GODDAMN BLINKER OFF!!!"

    lamenessfilter, dont use caps, blah blah blah

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  109. Don't laugh by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have a issue of Grassroots Motorsports, where they did an autocross competition between a 1965 Porsche 356, a 1967 Jag XKE convertible, and a stock 2003 Honda Odessy minivan.

    The minivan, with stock tires, smoked the Jag, and tied the Porsche. With one level better tires, the minivan smoked the 356 as well. Smoked it badly

    1. Re:Don't laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean automobile technology has improved greatly in 30 years? So that something pedestrian today would have been amazing in the 60's?

      Let's put my laptop against some screaming computers from the same time era! Would you be impressed if I smoked them badly?

      I have an idea, let's put the 03 minivan against an 03 911 Turbo and see who smokes whom! That comparison is almost as stupid as the one you cite.

    2. Re:Don't laugh by pokrefke · · Score: 0

      that's believable, when you consider the 35-40 year technology difference.

    3. Re:Don't laugh by joggle · · Score: 1

      Try doing a similar test with commercial airplanes. You'll probably be less than impressed by the progress made in the past 40 years. I'm hoping the next 40 years will be more interesting with sub-orbital flight finally entering the picture.

    4. Re:Don't laugh by Jens_UK · · Score: 1

      I'm not impressed by the Odyssey requiring one level better tires, if the 356 was not offered the same modern tires. 225/60 on the Odyssey versus meager (probably) 165/78 on the 356 is far and away enough to justify a performance difference. Two inches in tread width is not insignificant, nor is the ~25% difference in aspect ratio.

    5. Re:Don't laugh by hurfy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thats hardly fair. How about personal planes vs personal auto? They have come pretty close to same increase. Werent many zippy 200-300 mph private planes 40 years ago. Compare commercial cars/trucks with commercial planes perhaps. Neither of which is particularly impressive performance. (yes, both made some economy gains though)

    6. Re:Don't laugh by phliar · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Try doing a similar test with commercial airplanes.
      Ok, compare the DH Comet (or B-707) to the current 777. Gas turbine engines (the "jet") have been absolutely revolutionized from the 60s. Compare thrust and fuel consumption -- "orders of magnitude" would not be an exaggeration. Look at airfoil deisgn and cruising speeds -- going from Mach 0.68 or so to today's Mach 0.8. Consider design and construction techniques. No, airliners are a bad example of static technology.

      I'm hoping ... sub-orbital ...
      Unlikely. Consider this: if air travel were instantaneous -- runway to runway -- your travel time will still be many hours. Ground transport to/from airport, check-in, baggage handling, security, aircraft taxi -- a significant proportion of travel time. Travelling faster than Mach 0.8 in the atmosphere takes a huge amount of energy (civilian supersonic travel is unlikely to come back). Escaping the atmosphere will require hugely more. Add to that the cost of life support -- passengers do not want to don space suits to visit grandma, and decompression would be rather more serious than at 35,000 feet. More likely: turbine manufacturing advances? Modern gas turbine engines are ridiculously expensive. Different source of energy? It would be nice to not have to carry large quantities of explosives (chemical fuel) on passenger-carrying craft.
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    7. Re:Don't laugh by glitch23 · · Score: 1

      and a stock 2003 Honda Odessy minivan.

      That must be a vehicle that hasn't made it to the states yet.

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    8. Re:Don't laugh by joggle · · Score: 1
      While the effenciencies of turbine engines have certainly increased, it pales in comparison the improvements of advances in automobile technological advances, which have improved immensions while simultaneously increasing effency, etc. Piston-engine technology is about as static as one can imagine for the last 40 years. They still weigh as much as ever, are roughly as effecient as ever, polute as much as ever, etc.

      Personal aircraft have certainly seen good use of new materials and construction techniques over the last 20 years, but commercial airlines are only recently making significant progress implementing composite materials (I believe the only composites in the old 747s where the floor boards--preventing stewesses from wearing high-heel shoes--and overhead bins). The 747 (designed back in the 60s) has a remarkably efficient aeronautical design which, taking into account engine upgrades over the years, has only recently been surpassed by planes with airfoils that stretch the drag bucket closer to mach.

      Unlikely. Consider this: if air travel were instantaneous -- runway to runway -- your travel time will still be many hours. Ground transport to/from airport, check-in, baggage handling, security, aircraft taxi -- a significant proportion of travel time. Travelling faster than Mach 0.8 in the atmosphere takes a huge amount of energy (civilian supersonic travel is unlikely to come back). Escaping the atmosphere will require hugely more. ...

      Off of the top of my head I can think of solutions to many of the problems you reported:

      • Baggage check-in (and the added weight): The baggage could be sent on another, standard, plane. This would allow for the sub-orbital plane to take off with only the passangers being screened ahead of time. The baggage would still be screaned, of course, just at a later time or perhaps while they are in the process of taking off. Once they get to where they're going, the baggage could be delivered to their hotel by taxi or courier--covered by the ticket price. This would allow for more people to fly on the sub-orbital flight, more than offsetting the cost incurred by having to have the baggage delivered seperately. And since suicide bombers are out there, I don't think there's really a safety issue here of flying luggage without the owner on board the flight.
      • Fuel requirements: Using something other than a rocket to get above most of the atmosphere (like Burt Rutan's design) greatly reduces the amount of rocket fuel needed for such a flight. If a material is ever invented to contain a large, evacuated space and still be fairly light (big if of course), it would be possible to get to this altitude potentially quickly and almost for free. I also don't believe civilian super-sonic flight is coming back (at least not in the 30000-50000ft elevation range, at higher altitudes it still may be possible using a ramjet), unless some increadible advance occurs in airfoil design to mitigate the drag caused by the shock waves.
      • Life support isn't really an issue. All commercial jets already have life support, the only additional 3 things that need to be done are to store additional oxygen on board, ensure that the cabin is air tight to a pressure differential of about .8 atmospheres (not that hard, really) and have enough battery power to last during the space portion of the flight.

      So, best case scenario, a person going from New York City to Tokyo would:

      1. Go to a subway station with his/her luggage - 15 min (this is best case, remember).
      2. Take the subway to JFK - 20 min.
      3. Walk from subway to terminal - 15 min.
      4. Check in and deliver luggage - 2 min. I'm assuming it's like 1st class check-in which is usually pretty quick
      5. Proceed to gate. Since they won't have any luggage, they should be able to get through screening in less than 10 min. so I'll say this will take 20 min.
      6. Wait and board plane - 20 min.
      7. Take off and climb to altitude - 80 mi
    9. Re:Don't laugh by joggle · · Score: 1

      Sorry about that aweful first sentence, I forgot to proof-read that part. What I really meant to say is that improvements have really improved the advances in advanced automobile engine super technology or something :).

    10. Re:Don't laugh by CcntMnky · · Score: 0

      I would like to point out that the 356, the original Porsche, was NOT a sports car. It was actually really cheap when it came out. It evolved into more sport with the 356 Speedster, and eventually turned into the 911, Porsche's first real sports car.

      The 356 is remembered as a sports car because of the history that it spawned, and because of its good qualities in handling, etc.

      Also, autocross racing demands tight cornering and acceleration, the two most improved aspects of automobile performance.

  110. Fine, then. . . by Fritz+Benwalla · · Score: 1

    I hereby declare it fair game to shoot someone simply for owning the car, no need to wait until they do something *else* offensive.

    See, it's more efficient already.

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  111. oldtimer by Barryke · · Score: 1

    If this technology would be applied, i bet oldtimer sales would rise.

    For one, I always wanted my own lifesize brumm brumm !

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  112. this has potential, wankers by evilmousse · · Score: 1

    I'm schocked to read how this is being slammed. True enough, it may well be more japanese cutesy-ness than anything else, but I see lots of potential here, and I'm surprised no UI designers have chimed in with wisdom. I submit there are several valid views of just what makes for driving, including position relative to the road, position relative to other cars, and laugh or not, a social view is just as valid. The phrases "sunday driver" or "minivan mom" attest to it. My current home is a decent example. Each area has their own unique bad-driving style, and I blame Milwaukee's on having frequent freeway exits on both the right and left sides. The classic "fastest on the left, slowest on the right" school of driving totally fails here, and the problem results in all lanes being a mix of people who want to drive fast, and people who want to drive slow. ...and nothing but being able to pick them out ahead of time can really help. We already do a great job of this; beyond even assessing the type of car, there is almost a posture that can be seen from afar: someone looking for a turn, someone looking to pass, someone not paying attention, etc. (My most loathed is people who sit at a light with no blinker on, then hold up traffic to make the turn against oncoming traffic when i could have passed on the right had i known. I only guess right about 50% of the time on those..) I'm not saying this anthrompomorphic attempt is the answer, but I do think that posture as a signal of intention could eventually be an invaluable element of driving: it's so elementary in understanding that all mammals I can think of understand. Wouldn't it be nice to know at a glance which cars at a red light intend to get going quick, and which are just cruising? Or perhaps we'll just hand our steering wheels over to programs like in the 4-lane-traffic simulation article of recent... I for one welcome our new transportational masters. -evilme

  113. Hood Shits! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At first read, I would love it if I could use my car to perform some "Hood Shits" on all the pricks on the road. Sign me up!

  114. Prior Art Example by IllogicalStudent · · Score: 1

    Anyone from Toronto, ON (or those who've ever watched Toronto's international Santa Claus Parade) remember Toronto Police Services' "Blinky" ? Prior art, I think so!

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    1. Re:Prior Art Example by Bull999999 · · Score: 1

      How about the Kight Rider?

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  115. can it show a little leg to the police car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to get you out of a speeding ticket

  116. Prior art by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Funny

    My old 1974 Fiat X-1/9. Bump the headlight switch just right, and the left headlight pod would go op, down, and back up again. Winking, as it were.

  117. Does it talk? by HitScan · · Score: 1

    But have they gotten it to say "Autobots, let's roll out!" yet? Then they'll have something worth talking about.

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  118. And when.. by bodhimindspirit · · Score: 1

    the moving parts start to inevitably wear out you'll get cars with partial facial paralysis... cars that won't stop winking, or can only smile with half a face, or have a floating eye

  119. Tailgaters by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I usually handle tailgaters by slowing down to about half the speed limit, and continuing to slow down until they either get the point and back off, or get fed up and blow past me.

    Seriously, the danger from tailgating is that they might rear-end you (duh). If you slowly reduce your speed this greatly reduces the risk of a high-speed read end collision while simultaneously giving them a great incentive to stop tailgating. They're doing it because they think it'll get them to their destination faster. I simply make it clear to them that they'll NEVER get there if they insist on tailgating me.

    In my experience, most people get the hint and back off.

    1. Re:Tailgaters by Warpedcow · · Score: 1
      I usually handle tailgaters by slowing down to about half the speed limit, and continuing to slow down until they either get the point and back off, or get fed up and blow past me.

      Seriously, the danger from tailgating is that they might rear-end you (duh). If you slowly reduce your speed this greatly reduces the risk of a high-speed read end collision while simultaneously giving them a great incentive to stop tailgating. They're doing it because they think it'll get them to their destination faster. I simply make it clear to them that they'll NEVER get there if they insist on tailgating me.

      In my experience, most people get the hint and back off.


      Your method is fine, so long as you are driving in the driving lane (in the USA, the right-most lane) and not in any of the passing lanes. You should be in the passing lane only to pass. And slowly crawling by a semi by going 0.01 MPH faster is NOT passing! ;) Also, on two-lane highways (one lane per direction) you should pull over and let people behind you go by if you're going that slow.

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    2. Re:Tailgaters by AbbyNormal · · Score: 1

      Please see my other post if you do not follow the speed limit:
      Two Words

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    3. Re:Tailgaters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tryed that once. SUV behind me blew past me, cut directly in front of me, and slam on the breaks. He then spent the next 10 miles trying to run me off the road every time I tryed to pass him, almost causing a collision with a van entering the freeway... and people wonder why I don't like SUV owners!

    4. Re:Tailgaters by joggle · · Score: 1
      If you have a cell phone you should have called the cops. Seriously. In Colorado (at least in the Denver area) *277 would get you a direct connection to the reckless driving office of the state highway patrol. I'm sure there are similar numbers in other states (don't want to resort to 911 if you don't have to).

      BTW, to use this technique correctly you need to GRADUALLY decrease your speed, not immediately. That way they'll usually pass you without getting overly aggrevated (assuming they don't get the hint). Also, you probably shouldn't go below the speed limit (esp. if you're on a two-lane road with an especially dense person following you).

    5. Re:Tailgaters by Epistax · · Score: 1

      I hate'm too and I don't even drive! Let's say the speed limit is 55. Driving 60 mph is fine. If that ride is 30 minutes to work (for example), going that extra bit to 65 mph shaves off just over 2 minutes from the trip. If you need that bit more time then START SOONER. Now if you insist on being that guy who just must blast past everyone else on the road, it's up to you to wait for people to finish passing whoever they are passing. No one needs to speed up for you, buddy.

      For those not familiar to MPH the conversion to km/h is
      MPH * (1.5 hog heads / 14.2 furlongs) * 4 (barrels / fortnight^3) = k/h

    6. Re:Tailgaters by cosmo7 · · Score: 1

      If you're driving a stick a great way to freak out tailgaters is to put in the clutch and shift into reverse. Your reversing lights come on, causing the tailgater to immediately back off and waste time changing their pants.

      Remember to put the car back into an appropriate gear before lifting your foot off the clutch.

    7. Re:Tailgaters by spiritgreywolf · · Score: 1

      Fiiine... As long as (if you're in America) you aren't in the left most passing lane.

      The following is only meant for those not paying attention in the States and going slow in the left lane; If this is not you, you may continue.

      If you are going slower in the left lane, stop playing God (cop or both) and get the fsck out of the left lane!

      Usually the excuses are;

      "But I'm doing the speed limit?" I don't give a rats ass - again, get the hell out of the left lane. If you aren't going faster than me, move over to the right.

      "There's another lane, so you can go around." No, you can go to hell and read the law - slower traffic keep to the right. Again, get the hell out of my way.

      "You shouldn't be speeding!" Your opinion and it has been duly noted. Again, and as I pointed out before, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE LEFTMOST PASSING LANE!

      So - if you're in the left lane, (note, it doesn't say "The Speed Limit Lane" in the drivers handbook), GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!

      I am of the firm belief that if you are in the left lane and puposefully hindering traffic, I hope you DO get rear-ended - hopefully by a 30 ton garbage truck that makes Pate' out of you and your Yugo.

      Yeah... it's a sensitive subject...

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    8. Re:Tailgaters by RyatNrrd · · Score: 1
      Ooh, angry.

      Sounds to me like that guy does stay in the right hand lane. As he says, one of his objectives is to get the wanker behind to pass him and go bother someone else.

    9. Re:Tailgaters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My car (volvo S60 T5, with manual) won't shift into reverse unless your nearly at a standstill (say 3mph or less...) though maybe if I really pushed it in hard... ;)

    10. Re:Tailgaters by pclminion · · Score: 1
      If you're driving a stick a great way to freak out tailgaters is to put in the clutch and shift into reverse.

      I know for a fact I'd strip my reverse gear in my Outback (and probably ruin the gearbox) if I did that. I wouldn't suggest actually trying this at highway speeds unless you know how your transmission behaves :-)

      Now, I have thrown it into reverse (accidentally!) while doing 75 in a Toyota Tundra once. Rear wheels started burning up and I realized and corrected within a second, but I bet the guy behind me wet his shorts.

      I miss that truck, it never failed me once.

    11. Re:Tailgaters by cosmo7 · · Score: 1

      If you have the clutch in then the gear won't engage. If you lift your foot off the clutch then you might have some problems.

      Re: your Toyota - it's pretty unusual for a car to have syncromesh on reverse. You could double declutch though, if you are determined to wreck your gearbox : )

    12. Re:Tailgaters by linuxelf · · Score: 1

      So, the law about driving at the speed limit is ok to ignore. You don't care that you're going over the speed limit, and others shouldn't be playing God or Cop. Your opinion is duly noted. I'll stay in whatever lane I want. You can read the law, do not exceed the posted speed limit.

      When I want to go over the speed limit, I'm a good enough driver to take the lane that moves the quickest. If that means passing on the right, then I pass on the right. I drive well enough to handle this type of situation. If you're not a good enough driver to handle it, you really need to slow down, or consider mass transit.

      If you're going to ignore the white signs, you need to ignore the yellow ones too.

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    13. Re:Tailgaters by geolane · · Score: 1

      why don't you shift to a slower lane instead? If you slow to half the speed limit; you could be pulled over for not going fast enough.

    14. Re:Tailgaters by spiritgreywolf · · Score: 1

      Good enough to go around on the right? Huh? I already do that because of the slow, stupid people in the left lane. You missed my point.

      Don't speed?

      Point out one single highway where the speed limit is recognized or practiced by even a minor percentage of the drivers where a Police car is not anyhwhere in sight and I'll say you're not in the USA.

      I ride a motorcycle, so "going the speed limit" usually isn't an option as that's usually a lot slower than anyone else on the road - and I could get hurt - badly.

      Yes - you can drive in any lane you want, but if you are going slower than anyone else in the left lane, I'm just asking that you be a sweetie-pie and just move over. Why be a dick? Just to prove some point that you can drive in front of me? Nothing like being "goal oriented" I guess.

      It's just that type of "I'll drive in any lane I want" arrogance that leads to road rage.

      If you're not a wise enough driver to avoid rattling someone elses cage simply because you get off on some "you can't tell me what to do" power trip - perhaps it's you that needs to consider mass transit?

      In any case, don't worry about me, cupcake - I'll just ride around you like I already do when you aren't paying attention :-)

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    15. Re:Tailgaters by linuxelf · · Score: 1

      You really don't see that you're on the exact same "You can't tell me what to do" trip, can you? As soon as you got your motorcycle on the highway, you're already opening yourself up to getting hurt badly. The ones who are keeping you safe are the ones that are keeping the traffic going the speed limit.

      If the flow is already going the speed limit, in both lanes, and you're pissed because there is no speeding lane, then "going the speed limit" is an option, isn't it?

      It's just that type of "I'll go whatever speed I want" arrogance that leads to road rage.

      If you're not a wise enough driver to figure out that not everyone is going to share your view that speed limits are merely suggestions, and the only way to make sure that you aren't killed on your motorcycle is for everyone to to just ignore them and go however fast they please, then it is defnitely you who is on a "you can't tell me what to do" power trip?

      And don't worry about me either, moonpie - pass all you want. I'll be in the lane moving the fastest, even if that happens to be the left. There's always a nice grassy lane you can choose.

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  120. What do you think should be patented? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You patent a HOW not a WHAT, a specific mechanism, not a general concept that could be implemented in any number of ways.

    You can't patent a style, you can't patent a function. Functions live in the public domain, only mechanisms for performing those functions can be patented.

    It's not good enough for the concept to be original if the mechanism is obvious.

  121. What next from the Lumbergs at Toyota? by scupper · · Score: 1

    What next, a car that makes an "Oh" face?

  122. Other emotions by ps_inkling · · Score: 1
    So, if the driver is sleepy, will the headlights go out? Or if the driver is drunk, will the headlights go blurry?

    It would be interesting to use the car lighting to determine the mood and attitude of the driver. Of course, we already have a version of that today: bass-pounding music and ground lighting effects, or the soccer ball on the back of the urban assault vehicle.

  123. Chevron Techron more Appropriate for Prior Art by Zancarius · · Score: 1

    Anyone remember these commercials?

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  124. "gay" by phyruxus · · Score: 1
    I have gay friends and they use the term "gay" in a jokey way to describe things that are "lame", "suck", etc.

    I don't follow suit, because it makes me self conscious. I can see why someone might get offended but it doesn't seem to me that Bill, Shooter of Bul is attacking non-heterosexuals.

    (white) People used to use the "n" word to describe black people. Then black people started using it to refer to each other. Now, it Trent Lott says the "n" word, I figure it's cause he's a jerk. If my buddy (who is black) calls me "his n-gga", it's not offensive to me. Okay, maybe I don't like to hear it anyway, but I know he's not attacking me. Likewise, homosexual people use the word "queer" with each other. I don't use the n-word at all. I say "gay" but not around my gay friends. It's more about consideration, I think, than grammar and vocabulary.

    On the one hand, no one likes being labeled. On the other hand, words are just words. On the third hand, it all depends on context. I thought I had a point, but it's gone now....

    It's easy to take offense, or to see offense where it was not intended. It's also easy to unintentionally offend.

    Damn, what's this soap box doing under my feet?

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    1. Re:"gay" by phyruxus · · Score: 1
      just in case I appeared to leave room for interpretation in my above post:

      discrimination=ignorance=fear=weakness
      acc eptance=love=wisdom=growth

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    2. Re:"gay" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop being so damn gay.

    3. Re:"gay" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it so difficult for you to accept my discrimination?

      Oh, and I agree - stop being so damned gay.

  125. But they're not paying attention to you anyway by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 1

    The frustrating thing is that when someone cuts you off, they *AREN'T* looking at you, and *DON'T* look back at you. The idiot driving 55 in the passing lane is obviously ignoring you. So what's the point of having a car that shows emotion when the people you want to know you're upset are igoring you completely?

    That's why the only thing that ever really works is a .357 magnum. A few rounds through their rear windows definitely let's them know how you feel.

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  126. The adverts (or parodys) are gonna be great.. by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Funny

    As a car is stuck at the lights the eyes will slowly follow some girl crossing the road, and then the hood will pop open..

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    1. Re:The adverts (or parodys) are gonna be great.. by shlaf · · Score: 0, Interesting

      You fucking moron change your stupid signature and go fuck your own fucking goverment yourself.

      And ah, for your reading pleasure:
      http://www.bbcwatch.com/july04.html

    2. Re:The adverts (or parodys) are gonna be great.. by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      uhuh, uhuh, yeah, thats great.

      how about.. you bend over, and Mosssad can spank you.

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  127. Add a strobe light and you got by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The third base-mobile!

    Just think about it.

  128. Excellent idea by Frantactical+Fruke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back in the 60s, linguists postulated that your vocabulary influences your character, claiming even that bilingual people act differently depending on the language they're speaking.

    That would explain why drivers start acting like enraged apes as soon as they enter their cars: They are limited to honking, blinking, acceleration and hand signals.

    Kreegah, bundolo!

  129. Un-obvious???? by Vicegrip · · Score: 1

    I mean really.... because there's never been a movie/tv show ever that tried to portray a car as having emotions....

    And it isn't like the idea of making a piece of machinery have emotions isn't something we talk about on Slashdot ad-nauseaum.

    I'm sorry, but you must be easily impressed if you think this idea isn't obvious.

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    1. Re:Un-obvious???? by k98sven · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I mean really.... because there's never been a movie/tv show ever that tried to portray a car as having emotions....

      Let's get this clear: Yes, car's have been portrayed as having emotions lots of times.

      That is not original.

      What is original is proposing this as a real technical solution to an actual problem, as opposed to simple anthropomorphy.

      Since human faces have been drawn forever, I suppose the idea of Chernoff Faces would be obvious too. It is not.

    2. Re:Un-obvious???? by Vicegrip · · Score: 1

      But thats my point. There is a whole host of engineers out there who given the actual desire to do so would have come up with "wagging antennas" after a few beers and some sillyness. In fact, most of I read seems to be in fact just art in my opinion.

      Since mathematics cannot be patented your comparison is interesting. I'd never seen Chernoff faces until I read your link and concur that idea seems quite original. There's a lot of original math, literature, music, art and philosophy. We don't allow patents on those for very sound reasons. Why, all of a sudden, originality became the only criteria in deciding patents elsewhere can only be explained by wonton greed.

      Continuing your thoughts, I'd point out that you only need to go to a theme park to see all manner of real-world devices (everything from bumper-cars to the gadgets used to make machines in theme park rides more lively) that are already being used for this similar purposes.

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    3. Re:Un-obvious???? by Grrr · · Score: 1

      ...explained by wonton greed.

      Darn it - now I'm hungry.

      <grrr>

    4. Re:Un-obvious???? by Vicegrip · · Score: 1

      lol... do you want an eggroll with that?

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  130. What about drunk? by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

    That'd be helpful for law enforcement.

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  131. Flirting by car??!!! by RogueOne · · Score: 1

    great now my car can wink at the sexy brunette who just merged in ahead of me, now all I need is for it to be able to wolf-whistle at the girls on the roadside...

    1. Re:Flirting by car??!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can already be done... http://tinyurl.com/5lnp6

  132. Incorrect Patent Number... by zungu · · Score: 1

    The article cites incorrect patent no.

    This patent is for a USB powered lamp...
    6,575,593

  133. Ford was way ahead of Toyota by orionware · · Score: 1

    The other manufactures better hurry as most of the domestics have been way ahead of the curve.

    Ford patented the transmission that dies after 20,00 miles

    Chrysler already patented the Minivan / Roadside Grill

    And Firestone already patented the "self blowing" tires.

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  134. This is a good thing. by njfuzzy · · Score: 1

    This is a good thing. Road rage, some accidents, and much of the general stress of driving comes because Drivers Are Assholes. That happens because the road is too anonymous-- we don't see the people, we see cars. Add some emotional feedback to the system, and the road would be a lot safer and less draining for all of us.

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  135. Fun with tailgaters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When someone's been on my tail for a while, I keep an eye on them in the mirror until I see them look off the road. I then press lightly on the brake, just enough to turn the lights on. When they look back and see my brake lights already on, they panic and slam on their brakes. Double the fun if they have their own tailgater.

  136. Re:Herbie the Lovebug, slight difference by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    There is a minor difference... The Toyota car is controlled by the driver to express the driver's emotions. Herbie was a cranky car with its own emotions.

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  137. This Story Proves... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 1

    ...that we've hit the limits of the usefulness of technology where current automobiles are concerned. I'd take tailfins over these monstrosities any day.

  138. nobody HAS to tailgate! by Xtifr · · Score: 1

    While I share your anger and frustration at people who drive too slowly, too far to the left, there is NEVER any reason to tailgate ANYONE! EVER! Tailgating is stupid and dangerous, and people who engage in it, for whatever reason, should, IMO, have their license to pass on their genes to a next generation revoked! (Not to mention their license to drive.)

    People who don't observe the "slower traffic, keep right" law are a problem. Your proposed solution, however, is ten times worse than the problem you're trying to solve.

    1. Re:nobody HAS to tailgate! by merdark · · Score: 1

      Yes. People should try two things to move people out of the way.

      First, flash your highbeams at the guy in front of you. Often this will work. Two, honk your horn.

      Both methods are far far safer than tailgating.

  139. I predict... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    two extremes...

    Car's that look menecing and angry, driven by male assholes in their late-teens and 20s.

    Car's that look cute and fluffy, driven by hippy women and outwardly homosexual males.

    You already see it to a point... the tough guy's driving around in lowered Honda's with aggressive stances, loud/harsh exhaust, etc... and the flower-child bullshit from people driving their VW Beetle's w/ airbrushed flowers on the hood, etc...

  140. Correct number for the patent by rpiquepa · · Score: 1

    Even if there were lots of comments here about this patent, who really read it? The NYT gave a wrong number. The name of the patent is "Vehicle expression operation control system, vehicle communication system, and vehicle which performs expression operation" and its number is 6,757,593. Maybe the NYT was a little bit dyslexic.

  141. YOU'RE THAT GUY!!! by choovanski · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pay attention to the chick in the silver Civic tomorrow, she always flips you off as she passes and you NEVER give her the satisfaction of looking!

  142. Screw that by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    where do I mount the auto .22 Everything else is crap for some import yahoo to trick out his ride, and not make the payment...

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  143. This is more sensible than it sounds by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 1

    There's a huge proportion of the human brain devoted to picking out faces (which is why so many things look facelike) and recognising emotions. Those parts of your mind are ridiculously rapid, letting you see and interpret microsecond flickers of body langauge.

    In effect, like moving graphics procesing out of the CPU and onto a graphics card, this is handing off processing of some part of road conditions from (slow) learned analysis onto (fast) instinctive response. It will probably reduce real distraction.

  144. need for communication by mdmarkus · · Score: 1

    While i don't think this is the way to go about it, traffic problems could be alleviated by communication. For example, if someone knew you were going to let them in ahead of you, there wouldn't be this mess where both of you would slow down, then speed up, &c'. This seems like it would like to aid in this, but ends up being cutesey.

  145. Headlights... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Polarized, as a prior poster put.

    2) Fluorescent, so the entire front bumper of the car is the light source (more light, but from a more spread out source, so not as blinding.

  146. Yeah lets take no personal responsibility by AnEmbodiedMind · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are quite right - the meaning of the word gay has taken on a new additional meaning in society of something stupid or contemptful.

    But if this word's new meaning stems originally from usage by homophobic males who used their negative connotations with gay people to give power to a new insult, than it is clear that using this word is an insult to gay people (regardless if it is intended to be by any particular speaker). Every time the word is used in a negative way, it reinforces the idea that there is something bad or contemptible about "gayness".

    But for you to just say "blame society" is an ignorant avoidance of the fact that each of us can and should be responsible for our own vocabularies - and be mindful of the affects of various word choices on those around us.

    People often use the word "girl" in a negative way - "don't be a girl". This is another example of word usage that creates and reinforces both a negative stereotype and negative connotations of being a certain type of person. What subtle (or not so subtle) affects does this have on girls images of themselves, and on women as they grow up?

    Our word choices can often show our deep prejudices, as well as foster these prejudices in those around us and those growing up under us.

  147. Nah... by DeadVulcan · · Score: 1

    re: automoticons

    Didn't the Autobots beat them up?

    Nah, you're thinking of the Deceptibots.

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  148. Disturbing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if one of these gets in an accident... I can picture some horrible scene with shattered glass and debris everywhere, ambulances, horrified onlookers... and a car with a cutesy-surprised look mugging away in the background. Nightmarish irony.

    Much like a Jump-To-Conclusions Mat, this is a terrible idea.

  149. YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Why are so many women such aggressive drivers? It seems to me that 4 out of 5 people that tailgate me are women, usually chatting on a cellphone. What gives? Are you really in that big of a hurry to get to wherever the hell you're going? (not that it will get you there any faster of course)

    My bet is that if men never drove after drinking (get creative here) and ditto for women, the insurance rates would probably be higher for the females since they simply don't drive sober as well as sober males.

    1. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by choovanski · · Score: 1

      > Why are so many women such aggressive drivers? It
      > seems to me that 4 out of 5 people that tailgate
      > me are women, usually chatting on a cellphone.

      I make no excuses for anyone on a non-handsfree cellphone, regardless of their gender. Hang the f*** up and realize that you're steering a missle on wheels.

      As far as why women in general seem aggressive though, that is probably purely subjective. I find that *men* are the aggressive ones on the road.

      I can cruise up behind a guy doing 40 in a 55, hit my signal to pass him and go around smoothly and the instant he sees that he's being passed by a woman (the nerve) it's road rage time. Suddenly Sparky decides he needs to be doing 70 instead of 40. *While* I'm still in the passing lane along side him.

      This happens to me ALL the time. I get macho jerks, you get ditzy tailgaters. Shall we call it even? ;)

    2. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by germinatoras · · Score: 1

      Totally with you on this one. It's a wash either way, as far as gender relates (or doesn't relate) to bad driving. Both genders have their share of good and bad drivers.

      Having said that, I got a chuckle out of your original post, good one. :)

    3. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Just stop tailgaiting, it's all that I ask :). If I can't see your front license plate number you're TOO DAMN CLOSE! (I drive a SAAB with a hatchback, so to be that close you'd have to be about 5 feet or less from my bumper, which at >55mph is not fun--that's about 0.06 seconds for you to react if I decelerate rapidly)

      Sometimes I'll be following someone who is going a bit slow for being the passing lane (but still faster than the ones in the right lane) and then someone will quickly catch up to us, slam on their brakes and proceed to tailgate until a sliver of a window opens on the right and passes us both, missing the guy in front of me by inches.

      As far as why women in general seem aggressive though, that is probably purely subjective.

      Theoretically, it is objective since I can clearly identify the gender of the person tailgaiting me (well usually), so it's pretty easy to tally up the score for each gender. The question is the accuracy of my memory, which while I can't gaurantee it, has proven fairly accurate in the past. To be more precise, I've found that at least 75% of the people that tailgate me for any length of time are women. Guys usually back off (or try a dangerous right-side pass without clipping anyone stunt--which technically isn't tailgaiting but is, obviously, even more dangerous).

      I'll agree that those macho guys are out there too. Stupid testosterone/male pride/whatever you care to blame it on...

    4. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by firewrought · · Score: 1
      I make no excuses for anyone on a non-handsfree cellphone.

      Actually, I think studies have shown that handsfree and non-handsfree cellphones have a similar (negative) impact on driving safety. From an ergonomic standpoint, this implies that either handsfree cellphones have their own nuisances which impact driving safety AND/OR that the majority of risk comes from the social/mental distraction of conducting conversations, not ergonomics. I suspect the latter.

      (Sorry... I don't have a link to prove this, but I heard it on NPR once, and a few times since. Take with a grain of salt.)

      One related question would be: if cell phone conversations are unsafe, why does having a conversation with fellow passengers (presumably) not impact safety? A few speculations: passengers have an immediate appreciation for the situation that the driver is in, and they can respond to the moment with a number of strategies to help the driver focus. (Strategies include: softening the tension of the conversation, directing the driver's attention back to the road, handling navigation or child-management tasks, and good old STFU and/or screaming.)

      Passengers are also a "set" group for the duration of the ride. The driver knows ahead of time what emotional climate to expect and what sort of conversation he's going to have. Compare to a cellphone-using driver who's talking with several different people during a ride, perhaps trying to resolve a stressful office or home situation. That's a lot of different information (and emotions) to handle all at once...

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    5. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by joggle · · Score: 1
      One related question would be: if cell phone conversations are unsafe, why does having a conversation with fellow passengers (presumably) not impact safety?

      Who said they aren't a factor in safety? According to this (and I've heard this before on NPR I believe) other occupants are a major cause of accidents (according to this statistic 10.9% as opposed to 1.5% for cell phone use). Adjusting the radio or other things on the dash account for 11.4% of accidents. So really, cell phone use isn't as dangerous as common perception percieves it. I knew a guy in high school who crashed 3 times within 2 years while talking to other occupants in his car while driving (he wasn't drunk, just a bad driver). An aunt of mine had a roll over accident 10 years ago or so when looking behind her to tell her kids to shut up (everyone had seat belts on so fortunately no one was hurt).

    6. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by firewrought · · Score: 1
      Thanks for the link... it would be nice to see a more in-depth study, but this is interesting info. One note is that these numbers apply to the 9% of serious/fatal accidents caused by driver distraction.

      Also, this does not really answer the question of whether passengers hurt or help the driver on the whole. You'd really need a breakdown of accidents by whether or not passengers were present (e.g., how many accidents per 100,000 miles does a solo driver encounter? How about for a driver with passengers? A driver with 1 adult passenger? A driver with 4 teen passengers?, etc.). The BCAA stats do not suffice because it may be possible that the passengers actively help reduce other risks in driving (such as adjusting those durn A/C and radio controls).

      I agree this is unlikely, but I'm balking because the BCAA stats don't jive with my own experiences. There are a lot of potiential methodological/interpretative problems with this data. I need to research this further, and, if my intuitions are wrong or misleading, I need to take preventive measures with future passengers.

      "Honest, Officer! All my passengers ride bound and gagged in the trunk. I was just taking Julie home because she wasn't sober enough to drive herself..."

      :-)

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    7. Re:YOU'RE THAT WOMAN! by joggle · · Score: 1

      I don't recall the exact statistic, but insurance companies have compiled similar statistics. It's something like for each additional passenger, the risk of an accident becomes 10% more likely (so that if it was previously a 0.01% chance it is now 0.011% or if you had 4 passengers it would now be 0.014%).

  150. "FLAT... TIRE... FLAT... TIRE..." by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    Very seriously, I have often wanted a way to communicate hazardous conditions to nearby drivers. Just a couple of weeks ago, there was a car going about 65 mph in the left lane of route 128 whose right front tire was extremely low. We got to a section where traffic was choked up and everyone was going about 20. Their passenger window was open, and I was able to match speeds, open my window and yell "Flat tire! flat tire!" They did not seem to understand. This isn't a joke, I did NOT get a hostile response, I'm just saying that it's not easy to communicate. They probably couldn't even hear me over the wind. And, yes, it was a dangerous distraction for me to be trying to do that in congested highway traffic.

    I've seen many cars with their headlights off at night, and trucks with badly secured loads. One time I saw a truck with some kind of hose on a big spool that had come undone. There was about five feet of hose dragging on the road behind the truck. Then there were six feet, then seven, then ten, then fifteen. By that time I was passing the truck. I honked a couple of times, which I'm sure meant nothing, and proceeded on my way; heaven only knows what happened.

    I can't speak for anyone else if if I had a flat tire or a load that was coming loose I'd want the surrounding cars to let me know.

  151. Some funny unintended consequences... by lawpoop · · Score: 1
    When someone tries to run you down, would their car be smiling?

    When a funeral procession goes by, would all the cars be crying?

    There's probably more... that's what they 'reply' button is for.

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  152. Social interaction via a one-bit signal by DeadVulcan · · Score: 1

    Japan is so funny. Anthropomorphic cars.

    You know, the limited communicative abilities of our cars is something that struck me when I visited my ancestral Japan. I witnessed my aunt, while driving, bowing to another driver - or trying to. I'm not sure if the other driver could actually see her very well. Bowing, of course, is ubiquitous in Asia, but there's no easy way to express that in a car. A horn obviously doesn't cut it.

    I think adding more expressive communication to automobiles is a fantastic idea, although I don't know if glaring angrily and crying would be very constructive or useful...

    So often, you would hear a beep, and you'd have no idea what it was supposed to mean. It's almost appalling, really.

    What I would do is install two or three horns with different pitches (maybe just two to keep things simple) so that your honks can have intonation. You could honk expressively, like "!!", "???", or "....."

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  153. Cat bus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But when will they market those creepy cat buses from Totoro?

  154. funny by toiletmonster · · Score: 1

    ha. thanks. that was funny.

  155. Does Donald Norman work for Toyota? by aaronrp · · Score: 1

    He wrote a book about this. Turn Signals Are the Facial Expressions of Automobiles

  156. Obligagory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our anthropomorphic automotive overlords.

  157. Obligatory Simpsons Reference by NTmatter · · Score: 1

    I can just see one of these get into a nasty accident, catch fire, and start blaring "Why?! Why!? Why was I programmed to feel pain?!" whilst flapping its doors madly.

  158. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by merdark · · Score: 1

    Because I never go 60 in a 70 Zone. Here in Canada, I do 120 in a 100 zone. None the less, I *always* let people pass me by moving to the right lanes. People here LOVE to speed.

    But you know what? Every now and then I STILL get some asshole who decides to tailgate me, even though the left lane is perfectly clear and they could easily pass me.

    For these people, I wish I had a rear facing cannon.

    Or another situation is when traffic is so tight that you *can't* move over to the right, and you *can't* go faster because there are 200 cars in front of you. Yet some sad excuse for a sentient being decides to ride your bumper thinking somehow that he can cause all 200 cars on the highway to move out of his way.

  159. Version 0.1 by fishwallop · · Score: 2, Informative

    The strange-looking 2001 Toyota POD Concept seems to have been a first cut at the emotional car (e.g. light panels turn red to indicate frustration, blue to indicate "sadness" at being out of gas, etc.) The concept car doesn't have the "eybrows", but does have an antenna it can wag to indicate happiness.

  160. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by merdark · · Score: 1

    wtf??

    How come the subject of my message changed on it's own? Weeeiiird.

  161. Great! by dgagley · · Score: 1

    One more thing to distract that all but attentive driver while they talk on the phone with their right hand, hold the cigrette with their left, brights on all the time and now looking at the expressions of the cars they are running off the road or going to hit.

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  162. Wouldn't this be illegal in Germany? by ObiWonKanblomi · · Score: 1

    I recall watching a TV program on the Autobahn (SP?), and there was mention that explicit emotional expression such as flipping someone off, or honking too long can lead to a traffic violation. So would these cars with emotions be illegal?

  163. No, not "gay"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...JAPANESE. It's a very Japanese idea (dumb, cutesy, pointless, sure to have lots of dumb giggly japanese schoolgirls inside).

    I guarantee they've got an emoting "Hello Kitty" car in the works.

    Instead of this cutesy garbage, they could be doing something about fuel efficiency. But oh no, gotta make something "cute" instead of useful.

    1. Re:No, not "gay"... by juhaz · · Score: 1

      Considering that their cars already are the most fuel efficient vehicles in the whole goddamn world, it's not like anyone else is at the position to whine about them not doing something about fuel efficiency.

      Let the poor engineers have their fun for a while, after they've laughed their arses off, they're more refreshed to get back to serious business, designing those nifty über-fuel efficient engines.

  164. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome our new homosexual, Toyota driving Overlords ...From Japan!

  165. Stupid people in the left lane by Daetrin · · Score: 1
    I usually handle people like you by getting even closer on their tail (since at the new reduced speed i have a better stopping distance.) Eventually they get the hint and get out of the far left lane, either that or i take satisfaction in the fact that they've slowed down so much in the attempt to annoy me that i'm significantly increasing their travel time. One guy got down to the 30s or 40s in the left lane of a 65 zone. What an asshole. I enjoyed staying right behind him for about ten minutes until my exit came up.

    If you can't handle the heat, get out of the left lane! On the other hand, i try to be nice to the people in the right couple lanes. They presumably don't want to deal with left lane traffic, and they're being considerate and using the right lanes like slower traffic is supposed to.

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  166. One way windows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All cars should have one-way windows that stop drivers from seeing the stupid self-serving hand signals, shoulder shrugs, and rolling eyeballs of other drivers. This stuff just makes people madder than they were already.

    Of course the cops wouldn't like it but they allow heavily tinted windows a lot of places.

  167. What about prior art by fireman+sam · · Score: 1

    Can prior art exist in fiction?

    For example: In the 1980s Disney made many great movies about a VW beetle called Herbie. Titles included "Herbie Goes Bannanas", "Herbie Goes to Montycarlo", and the unreleased movie "Herbie goes bezerk". Herbie was a POS VW who could show characteristics that are described in this patent, and more.

    (In Herbie goes bezerk, my personal favourite, our lovable friend herbie runs down all manner of creatures. Nuns, schoolkids, dogs, cats, cops, are all in herbie's sights)

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  168. YOU may be the one breaking the traffic laws.... by Savet+Hegar · · Score: 1

    On most highways, there are signs every few miles with a few very wise words:

    "Keep right except to pass"

    If you are dealing with tailgaters in the right lane, you're fine. If you're doing this in the passing lane, you are just being an ass, and can actually get a ticket for this.

    I've heard the excuse, but the left lane is the fast lane, and I was doing the speed limit. There is no fast lane...it's a passing lane.

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  169. No Offence My Ass by IBitOBear · · Score: 1

    There is no "no offense" verion of "that is totally gay". If you are going to be a biggot or a jackass, *OWN* the jackassary... 8-)

    Would you also dare:

    "No offense, that is such a lying jew tactic"?
    "No offense, but what a lazy nigger thing to do"?
    (etc.)

    I know, I know, some of your best friends are homosexual jews of african descent... right...

    Think about it. If you knew enough to plead "no offense" then you knew from the get-go that there was no non-offensive reading likely by your audience.

    Now, rather than put some "weeping liberal" (8-) plea here, I just thought I point something out to you...

    Using that kind of language will cost you money.

    Let's say that you are the perfect applicant for a job, but lets also say that you have allowed yourself to develop these habbits of speach over the course of your lifetime. The patterns of speach and thought will, eventually, become habbits of speach and thought. When the interviewer hears you say "totally gay" or "yo dog" or whatever, he will either think you are ignorant and decided to cut the salary offer because you won't know you're being had on the cheap, or decide you are likely to let that sort of thing slip in front of a customer, and decide that you really aren't the most qualified applicant after all.

    You should put the price schedule in your head:

    (cost for each utterance)
    $50 ending a sentence in "yo".
    $100 placing two or more "yo"s next to eachother when not discussing a child's toy.
    $75 "totally gay"
    $200 "nigger"
    $175 "heeb" or "jew boy"
    (and so forth...)

    Each time you use any of the above, mentally deduct the dollar amount from your lifetime earnings.

    It's not like there is actually a guy standing behind you who is going to ticket you, but each usage increases the likelyhood that you will use the term at an ill-advised later moment and lose a substantial finincial position or opportunity.

    This is part of my theory of "the instantaneously self-punishing nature of life." ... but no offense taken... 8-)

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    1. Re:No Offence My Ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When asked, "What are you, a homo?", you can feel safe in responding, "Yes. Homo sapiens sapiens. Can you even say 'sapiens', knuckledragger?"

  170. Communication? by CamMac · · Score: 1

    Ok, so in addition to managing engine RPM and steering wheel direction (which translates to speed and direction of travel, most of the time), my headlights, my turn signals, my radio, my foglights, seat heaters, moon roof, and however many passangers I've got (go ahead, add to that list with everything else you have to do while driving), I'm going going to have to manage the automoticons of my car too? And instead of just noticing speed and direction of travel, brake lights, and turn signals of other cars, traffic lights, road signs, road markings, path of the road, quality of the road, the signage, lights, markings and paths of intersecting roads. I have to add the emotion of the other cars to the list of things I have to observe and take note off? Can we say operater saturation, if not overload. Pilot saturation in figherjets is a well known phenominon, to the point where they won't even hear audio alarms or see blinking red lights. And I can't count the number of times I've seen it in everyday drivers.

    Somehow humanity has managed to drive for a hundred years without using automoticons to commincate. If oncoming traffic had left their brights on, we didn't tell the car to squint... we flashed our brights. Granted, we might also be telling them about the speed trap, but thats for them to figure out. And if a dangerous condition existed on someones car, we would honk and point. Sometimes we would even convince them to pull over and actually help them fix the problem.

    So lets recognize this for what it is. The next generation of 'look at my car' It started with a eyecatching and technically difficult paint job, lots of body mods and chrome. Then it was a horsepower proving exhaust, chromed out engine, and tires that could provide enough traction to get the space shuttle into orbit. Now days its underbody neon, LED windshield wipers, and complexe vinyl decals and chrome wheels. Next it will be the automoticons (doesn't that just sound like the Pokemon version of the Transformers?)

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  171. Cars. With. Robotic. Faces. by dabigpaybackski · · Score: 1

    How...profoundly Japanese. From the exquisite grace of the tea ceremony to the frenetic beep and clatter of the pachinko parlor, everything about these people is surreal. And now, cars that raise their eyebrows, glance around and whistle when you stomp the brakes to avoid hitting a pedestrian. It's the final straw. I hereby give up my quest to understand Japanese society.

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  172. Re:YOU may be the one breaking the traffic laws... by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 1

    On most highways, there are signs every few miles with a few very wise words:

    "Keep right except to pass"

    If you are dealing with tailgaters in the right lane, you're fine. If you're doing this in the passing lane, you are just being an ass, and can actually get a ticket for this.


    Maybe there are signs like that on most highways in your state (assuming you live in the U.S. as I do.) I've never seen any signs like that on any of the highways that I frequent. Likewise, I know it's the law that you're only supposed to use the left lane for passing in some states, but I don't think this is the case everywhere.

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  173. My X1/9... by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

    Bump the headlight switch just right and the headlight pods would finally break free from the rust-crusted brackets and fall through onto the road, not to mention the similarly afflicted doors would implose under the force from operating the window winders. And then there was the days when if the temperature was just a tad too high the carbs would get so hot that fuel would vapourise and the damn thing would just stop - often for hours until it cooled down enough.

    In fact there wasn't a weekend I wasn't up to my elbows in grease trying to keep it running. Head gasket, heater pipes, brakes, alternator, distributor, and a gearbox with so few teeth left that I learned how to expertly double-declutch on every change just to tootle down to the shops. However, I forgave it all these things because on a twisty road with the top off and (if mechanically it could pull itself together) it was an absolute joy to drive! I'd have another one....

    1. Re:My X1/9... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Trying to nurse that thing through an Upstate New York winter. The doors would freeze closed (crappy rubber on the seal), exposed wiring would corrode just sitting in the driveway, RUST! What killed it was a combination of the coolant pipes rusting out 1/2way through the tunnel, and the right front lower suspension arm tearing free (at 60mph!)

      But yeah, I'd have another one too. I've often thought of A CRX-1/9. The X-1/9 shell (completely rewired), with a Honda CRX-Si powerplant and tranny.

  174. Re:YOU may be the one breaking the traffic laws... by Savet+Hegar · · Score: 1

    I have seen them in Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, Ohio, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. Unfortunately the only drivers that see them are the irritated driver behind the driver who is drag racing with a semi at 55 mph in a 65 zone.

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  175. Toyota should just donate to driver's training... by tentimestwenty · · Score: 1

    Seriously, a few hundred million to the world's driving schools, or better yet a Toyota driving school would nicely eliminate the need for a car that shows emotions to other drivers. What a waste of money.

  176. Mirrors are for assessing physical situations by fishbot · · Score: 1

    not emotional ones. If I look in my rear view mirror and see a car really close, yeah I want to get out of that situation. It makes no difference whether the guy is just an ignorant jerk who thinks his breaks are better than the laws of physics, or a psycho who's trying to run me off the road.

    If I look in the mirror, it's to assess the presence and activities of vehicles around me. I don't care if they aren't pleased to see me, or if the lass over in the other lane is winking at the guy behind me (fellow geeks will know THAT feeling).

    On the other hand, if I look behind me and see a guy really close, and his car has an 'angry smiley' look about it (red lights, lowered ride height, etc.) then I know he's a psycho, and it'll really piss me off. I will then most likely (although subconsiously) drive worse than before.

    How many have had some guy acting a jerk at the lights and then found themselves tearing away from the lights, possibly trying to cut the guy up or at least show him up to all around? It's a primal thing, and it has no place on a safe road system. Adding these features will just take peoples minds further away from the prime reason for having mirrors in the first place. Self preservation!

  177. Is This a Hoax??? by severoon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is this a hoax???

    The patent number referred to is 6,575,593, but a quick search for that patent number at the US Patent Office yields a patent entitled: IEEE 1394 or USB powered computer light.

    Seriously, people. I think this might just be a hoax.

    sev

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    1. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it is a patent...IN JAPAN!

    2. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Could it be that there are patent offices *gasp* elsewhere in the world ?

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    3. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by m4k3r · · Score: 2, Informative

      You've messed up the patent number slightly. The article refers to patent # 6,757,593

    4. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by severoon · · Score: 1

      Actually, no it doesn't:

      The inventors also say their idea, which was awarded patent No. 6,575,593, is not just for cars but could also be used on motorcycles, ships or aircraft. (emphasis mine)
      Not sure what article you were reading, but I pulled that quote from the /. linked story.

      sev

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    5. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by severoon · · Score: 1

      Oh my god! It could be! Except...it isn't.

      The article just got the patent number wrong, as the post after yours pointed out. Don't worry, though, I actually like that you're a smart ass. :-)

      sev

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    6. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Well, this being slashdot and all, it was too tempting :)

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    7. Re:Is This a Hoax??? by m4k3r · · Score: 1
      So you're willing to argue that the article refers to " IEEE 1394 or USB powered computer light " ?

      Patent No. 6,757,593 (" Vehicle expression operation control system, vehicle communication system, and vehicle which performs expression operation") appears to be a more appropriate fit.

      Not sure what article you were reading, but I pulled that quote from the /. linked story.


      I was reading the information posted on /., which was nice enough to include a link to the correct patent:

      The NY Times/IHT reports that four inventors working for Toyota in Japan have won a patent


  178. Quite the opposite... it helps clarify by AllenChristopher · · Score: 1
    The whole point of using facial expressions is that they focus the entire attention on what's happening.

    Facial expressions run deep into our primordial consciousness... just try to ignore that someone is frowning at you from across the room. You can tell the expressions of everyone around you instantly.

    It's called a group mentality. The reason horses seem so intelligent is not that they think much... on an analytical level they are dumb as bricks. They do have a herding awareness that approaches telepathy, and so when they are around people, they seem to read our minds.

    This kind of group mentality is enormously useful for huge lumbering things running around at high speed. Horses are perched on ungainly legs, run at twenty miles and hour, and wheel about in amazing configurations. Antelopes, zebra... these animals don't have lines on the ground, they don't have rules, but they very, very rarely crash.

    No, the problem won't be being distracted by the facial expressions. The problem will be how to set the expressions. If they're keyed to those of the driver, then the car of a mother with troublesome kids in the back seat may look like it's about to crash. If they're set manually, it will probably be rude to do anything but smile.

    1. Re:Quite the opposite... it helps clarify by TheLink · · Score: 1

      "Antelopes, zebra... these animals don't have lines on the ground, they don't have rules, but they very, very rarely crash. "

      They do crash when they have to run through narrower paths than the typical grassy plains. But AFAIK they don't dent easily. ;).

      Still I'm well aware of the point, which is why I believe "flying cars for the masses" are a stupid idea. Can humans flock like flamingos? The day a flamingo tries to be funny and fly against the flock is probably the day it gets pecked to death by everyone.

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  179. Holy Crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there going to be an expression for the 'Holy shit I'm going to die' look just before you get in a serious accident. A 'F@#K" loudhorn feature would be good too!

  180. Prior Art by dsbaha · · Score: 0

    Wouldn't the Chevron Car characters be prior art?

  181. Well, the porshes already have the sphincter by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    That single or double-barrel tail pipe.

    Most cars have them non-symmetrically placed, being either to the right or left. BUtt (pun intended) nooooh, some car makers just insist on locating their car's anodized poop chute on-center.

    Porshe beath them to that one. So, unless Toyota adds streamers or such...

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  182. Dumbest idea ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe not, but pretty fcking stupid.

    This can only lead to more road rage and increasingly hostile driving. Driving is not supposed to be "entertaining" unless it's on a racetrack. I have no doubt that it would eventually become illegal anyway, so they are just pissing money down the drain on this lame-ass concept.

  183. Clarcoma, Rolling Bus and Sache-imi by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Well,

    Every time I see a car having one bright, clear, normal headlight and one yellow-dimmed, or clouded head light, i think:

    CAR-CLOMA, as in "glaucoma". Might be less "sighted", since the newer (what, Halogen) bulbs have been around a while.

    I wonder if Toyota will create suspension systems that make the car swish, sway, swagger, prance (sachet) along (at slow speed, for safety reasons.)

    In 2000 or 2001 I once saw (and was behind) a black-and-purple-painted, rickety old (maybe former Greyhound or Partridge Family or some escaped-from-San Diego) bus teetering and tottering on a two-lane stretch of Highway 5 toward Sacto. I was laughing my ass off.

    It was driving straight, but it was rolling, like a ship in mildly rough waters. (No, I wasn't consciously thinking the bus had super-king-sized bed aboard. I was thinking the suspension must've been shot like hell.) The roll moment must've been about 2 seconds to a side.

    If Toyota can engineer safe, roll-inducing springs... Then, they can come out with 18-or 40-wheelers that have the cab and trailer rolling in opposite directions...

    Toyota, make some "flex cars" that slinky along, maybe like a caterpillar... Call it Sache-imi, as in "Sachet Sashime" Just be sure it's a hybrid... Steel car with rubber flex-joints

    David Syes

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  184. You're kidding... by LordEq · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously. In Colorado (at least in the Denver area) *277 would get you a direct connection to the reckless driving office of the state highway patrol.

    You mean to tell me that, in Colorado, you can actually dial *ASS to report idiot drivers? That's awesome!

    When will the rest of the states get their acts together?

    1. Re:You're kidding... by joggle · · Score: 1

      LOL, I never realized that before, thanks. It's supposed to stand for Colorado State Patrol but I guess ASS is easier to remember :). Here's a link with more info. Do a search for 277 on the page and you'll see what I'm talking about.

  185. First Claymations, now this... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    Hmmm.. Godzilla, Guldar, Gammara.....

    ClayYota?

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  186. BIG problem: the Chinese version will be by nusratt · · Score: 1

    [wait for it] . . . inscrutable!

  187. Question: in the USA, will a corporate-fleet ... by nusratt · · Score: 1

    ... which winks, be charged with sexual harassment?

  188. NOW that cars will "talk", can I finally get ... by nusratt · · Score: 1

    . . . a license-plate which says "STFU" ?

  189. my new personalized plate will say by nusratt · · Score: 1

    UTALKN2ME

  190. Re:YOU may be the one breaking the traffic laws... by joggle · · Score: 1
    To add to your list, I've seen them in Colorado and Utah as well. I can't recall seeing them in California, but I don't think it would matter there anyway since the people there seem to ignore any existing traffic laws (such as using turn signals for passing or turning for that matter--are they all broken over there?--speeding, tailgaiting, etc.).

    Unfortunately the only drivers that see them are the irritated driver behind the driver who is drag racing with a semi at 55 mph in a 65 zone.

    I'll let that slide if the semi is passing another semi going 40-45mph but NOT if the other one is going 54mph (well, I'll let that slide too I guess, but it certainly annoys the hell out of me). That can happen from time to time climbing the mountains and hills here in Colorado. Other drivers seem to get pretty ticked off though.

  191. Doesn't Disney have prior art? by earthforce_1 · · Score: 1

    Anybody else here remember "Herbie the love bug?". The silly little VW that had no problem letting you know how it felt.

    Still, I wouldn't mind paying for a vehicle that would lift it's rear tire like a dog and properly reward anybody who tried put a parking ticket on the windshield, or who parked too close and dinged me with their door.

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  192. just what we need by MadBurner · · Score: 1

    more shit to watch instead of the road.

  193. I'm with you by bezuwork's+friend · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I like your ideas, have had similar ones (as I imagine many drivers have had) for decades.

    I always thought that there should be bar lights, red for breaking; blue, green, white, or whatever for acceleration. And have them keyed to a standard applicable to all makes - e.g. three lights of red would mean a certain standard amount of deceleration.

    The other thing I always wish for is that trucks and such have a screen on the back showing their view of what's in front of them. Then when you get behind an idiot who is going slow and has no one in front, you know you should/can pass. For those who think this would be dangerous for some reason, remember that most drivers do this already with cars in front, as you can see through them from back to front.

    Heh, heh. Maybe the screen could be incorporated into the Toyota idea - if you're pissed off at the person behind you, you could switch to a shot of your face and mouth "fuck off" rather than having the car mimic the emotion.

    One last thing that I always wanted were "excuse me" lights. You know, for when you're the dick who cut someone else off (for a good reason, of course!).

    1. Re:I'm with you by Rei · · Score: 1

      I'll second all of that - especially the "excuse me" lights. I'd like "excuse me/sorry!" lights and "Thank you" lights. It annoys me that there's no way to thank a person who is actually *polite* in traffic.

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    2. Re:I'm with you by LafinJack · · Score: 1

      One last thing that I always wanted were "excuse me" lights. You know, for when you're the dick who cut someone else off (for a good reason, of course!).

      We have those, they're called 'turn signals'.

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    3. Re:I'm with you by BillX · · Score: 1

      I want an automatically-actuated "asshole mirror". I keep one in the center console for those special occasions, but it just isn't the same. It's for that asshole, you know the one, in the SUV who sits two inches off your back bumper giving you a suntan with his brights. That's when the asshole mirror comes out - hm, down a little...a little to the left...Bingo! He's slowing way down. ...wait a minute dude, that wasn't supposed to mean "pull into that ditch over there and burst into flames". Damn.

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    4. Re:I'm with you by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I generally wave out the window to them. But of course, that's taking a hand off the wheel! Oh the humanity! The gods know you can't hold a dinky little Kia's steering wheel steady with just the strength of one adult arm!!

  194. If you want to make faces.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at other drivers, try a bike. If you're quick, you can also spit or throw nearby litter.

  195. Obvious prior art! by alien_blueprint · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure that Bumblebee and Herbie haved both laughed, cried, winked and glared angrily. I mean, didn't the patent office even search for any prior art? ;)

  196. Good thing they didn't patent smoking car.. by chipset · · Score: 1

    Ford has tons of prior art on that!

  197. My car can already wave by nikhilwiz · · Score: 1

    Yes. I have a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 and they come with an "Active Aero" spoiler which can tilt up at hih speed to increase downforce. But, they also have a manual override switch so that you can make it go up and down. I use it to wave at hot blondes in the car behind me when I'm cruising on the Pacific Coast Highway! =) Its also more prominent than the middle finger when you've just raced and car, beaten it, and are making circles around it! =)

  198. Thank you button and Sorry Button by kabloom · · Score: 1

    Cars already have an f**k you button, but they need a Thank you button, and an I'm sorry button. (And in all reality, they don't need an f**k you button.)

  199. Chevron by Hobadee · · Score: 1

    Shit, were gonna have a whole bunch of Chevron with Techron cars running (err... driving...) around our streets... As if life wasn't already one huge ad. Chevrons gonna have a field day with this if it becomes reality.

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  200. Prior Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a movie in the early 1980's where some guys had a car with a lit middle finger that popped out of the trunk.

    As for "an adjustable body height," havn't the more extreme/nutty lowrider guys been doing this for many many many years?

  201. bad enough - neighborhood cats at night... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's bad enough that I get to hear the neigborhood cats makinging noises in the night but the last thing I need now is for my new vehicle to be making "doe eyes" towards the cute car in the next driveway - let alone having to worry about my car's potential late night amorous adventures...

    Oh my...

  202. Re:Maybe I should move to Canada, eh? by winwar · · Score: 1

    I have come to the conclusion that some people just aren't comfortable unless they are a 5, 10, 20 feet away from your bumper at highway speeds. I can't explain it with certainty, but it seems to fall into certain categories:

    I regularly watch people leave the right lane (empty) and squeeze into the center lane between other vehicles. Apparently, they are confused when confronted with a large empty patch of road in front of them....

    Other people drive closely because that's all the further they look ahead. They are fixated on that distance and get as close to your rear bumper as their forward vision focuses...

    The rest are just inconsiderate jerks, of course :) But I find the first two types far scarier....

  203. Missing The Point by hisstory+student · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one missing the point here, or is nearly everyone else?
    I read this as a condemnation of our patent system, not an essay on some excellent new patents.
    There seems to be some serious problems with the patent system, not the least of which is the patent office's inability to find a sufficient number of qualified patent examiners to hire. The backlog of patent applications must be horrendous. If you were running the patent office, and it was your job that was on the line, how would you tackle the problem? Something simple like rejecting rediculous applications out of hand? or what?

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  204. I would like to have seen this news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Toyota created (and let others implement this) a system to prevent other cars to stay too close to your car while driving.

    The system consists in a laser system that draws a line in the road after your car with the distance depending on the speed you have (or in front of your car with your speed).

    The laser can not dammage other drivers eyes, as it can stay bellow the eyes in the car.

    All the pieces to create this gadget are available today (and 5 years ago).

    I'm sure that this tool will prevent some crashes, and multiple crashes (I hope).

    Of course, this method can not be patented, as I am posting this "previous art" here.

    As you have guessed, English is not my native language!.

  205. Substantial Prior Art Invalidates Claim by Cycloid+Torus · · Score: 1

    On the shelf in my kid's room we have proof of the existence of prior art, it's called "Putt-Putt Goes to the Moon" - beep, beep to you too..

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  206. Re:YOU may be the one breaking the traffic laws... by pclminion · · Score: 1
    I'm not sure why so many people are assuming I do this in the left-hand lane (I've even been moderated "Troll" at least once, heh), but I was referring mostly to roads with one lane in either direction. Rural roads. I wasn't even imagining freeways.

    I'm sure most of the angrier respondants are your typical road-rage asshole.

  207. Re:YOU may be the one breaking the traffic laws... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no fast lane...it's a passing lane

    ...but what if you're passing everyone?

  208. Erect anenna by Mindless+Drone · · Score: 1

    An "awake" car would have ... an erect antenna ..."

    Exactly what human emotion is this supposed to convey to other drivers?!?!?!?

  209. Clippy on wheels by PMuse · · Score: 1
    "You seem to be having trouble driving. Would you like to

    (a) pull your head out of your ass

    (b) get of my way or

    (c) run me off the road and pound me into tiny bits?"

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  210. Looking at the actual Patent! by Ingineerix · · Score: 1

    There was some "lysdeksia" in the IHT story regarding the patent number. It was listed as 6,575,593 which is a "USB powered computer light" erroneously. The correct number is 6,757,593 if you'd like to have a look-see.

  211. As if they could care less... by juhaz · · Score: 1

    Better drivers won't sell any more Toyota cars, so THAT would be a waste of their money.

    In fact it'd probably result in quite the opposite, since if all people were perfect drivers, nobody would be in a need of new car after they wrecked their old one.