Advocating throwing nonviolent people in prision because they put something into their own bodies that the government doesn't want them to... That sure sounds like hate speech to me.
Ok, but you are a wacko lib. People who do drugs cause harm to others - that's why the war on drugs. The fact that they are recidvist and don't want to change is immaterial and your argument doesn't hold water for that reason. Build more prisons is the ultimate answer, or become China in the 1800s. An also-ran, has-been sorta-nation. I know you have no ambition at all, but the rest of us do.
Calling that hate speech is pretty laughable. Let's have someone reasonable comment.
I don't disagree with the lever effect that Debian's policies have. Obviously the intent is to make as much software Free as possible. Great job as far as that goes. The effect is hard to gauge but obviously significant. Too bad certain industry segments (the video hardware manufacturers, for one) aren't getting on board.
I'm a pragmatist, though. I have to run a big server room, and I like to do useful things with my systems at home and the box I have colo'd up at an ISP. I'd like a technically superior distro that didn't care a whit about ideals. That was primarily my point. I understand this detracts from the goals of Debian - I didn't say it should _be_ Debian.
As I replied to someone else - is it possible that something besides Free software advocacy or money could serve as a motivator to produce a distro? I seem to remember a certain geek/hacker/whatever ethic that was the motivator behind a lot of development we did in the pre-Internet dark ages.
The Debian political process seems to have very little to do with that ethic, hence prompting the initial response.
Most of the Debian developers would probably read your sig and decide that it's the best possible answer they can find to your criticism.
Good for them. They're welcome to do what they want with their time - that is no business of mine. My point mainly is: why does the motivation for creating distros have to be "Viva Free software" ala Debian or "Viva money" ala Red Hat? Isn't there any motivating factor in "Viva quality"? Is there no geek ethic?
I suspect no, but I wondered if anyone cared to comment along those lines.
You would wish that some distro would have its social contract be "To produce a great distribution with the latest software that is stable". Succinct, and what it should be all about.
If I wanted politics, i'd...well, get involved in same.
I suppose I won't ever be using Debian, given my constraints (I tried it once - packages were way too old for my taste) but I wish someone would take the above to heart.
It's amazing how many people who have never bothered listening to Rush Limbaugh comment about his 'spewing hate'.
Do you believe everything other people tell you? Is hearsay your main means of gathering information? Did it occur to you that possibly someone might not want you to hear what he has to say? Isn't that thought mildly disturbing?
If you had listened to him, I would challenge you to find an instance of him 'spewing hate', rather than just espousing points of view that are not your own.
Comparing Pat Buchanan to Mr. Limbaugh is very kind to the former and defamatory to the latter. I suggest you study your straw men more closely to get a better feel for what they really stand for, instead of advertising your ignorance through posts like this.
That may be true somewhere, but not in the Northeast. You can't get a decent signal anymore, for one. Also, in some areas, the metro area nearest is too far for decent reception so you are compelled to go cable/satellite. I know in this area (NJ) cable is a prerequisite, and you wouldn't think so since we are within easy range of the home stations of the three networks here.
I believe the number of cable/satellite households was bandied about at 80%+? Need to look it up.
Dude, i've been alive quite a while. I have never seen a case where the US government was able to politically sustain devaluing existing citizens' property on a mass basis.
I draw your attention back to the leaded/unleaded gas issue. The switchover happened in 1975 as I remember it. However, no one required that the older vehicles get off the road. You could still readily find leaded gas as late as the early 80's. Even then, the older vehicles without catalytic converters are still on the road to some extent (most of the people who own them have changed the valves, I think. Something about copper being destroyed without the lead-based lubricants being there). Point being you can still use your car.
I guarantee you those TVs will still be useful in 2020 and maybe even 2025. When a sufficient majority of the public no longer owns an old-style tv set, that is when things will change.
Besides which, it's meaningless anyway. Most people have cable. I fail to see what wonderful future digital broadcasts are intended to bring us to, besides DRM.
Last point, it'll take 20 years plus before all the old-style TVs are phased out. Upon my approximate checkout date of 2030, maybe then digital TV will be mainstream.
Since only about one-10,750th of the original carbon in ancient plant material actually ends up as oil, multiply 4.14 kilograms by 10,750 to get roughly 44,500 kilograms of carbon in ancient plant matter to make a gallon of gas.
Umm. Does anyone see a problem with this, given the fact that we aren't even sure of the process by which petroleum becomes petroleum?
Wouldn't that have been a nice thing to put in the post text?
Obviously Java's structure (class files, interpreted code, easy decompilation) makes this easier to accomplish than it would be in C or C++ (or any other language compiled for a particular architecture). It just doesn't make all that much sense for code intended for C compilation, where the source code is freely transmitted. You rewrite out the watermark, it's as easy as that.
i think tim berners-lee'd have something to say about that.
While some of the effects I listed were exacerbated by the presence of the web and the net, I note that Fido didn't destroy everything even though it had a lot of the characteristics of today's Internet. (in fact we had an Internet gateway back then in Net 107 heh heh)
Microsoft, on the other hand, with preinstalled software and draconian licensing, as well as the desire to kill off all commercial competition in most markets, and making those who were in the tools business hang on with their fingernails to solvency (thinking Borland here), pretty much killed the shrinkwrap market for OS and applications. The net effect of this was to invalidate the whole reason for building your own box (for anyone but a hardcore geek) and even thinking much about office suites and the like - it's all Microsoft now. For that matter, the rise of OSS tracks this very action - if you can't compete commercially with them, the only resort is to compete for free. In some respects it's the transition from a business/hobbyist market to a utility. Computers are like the phone now, just less reliable. I don't think this is necessarily a good thing either, mind you.
Without the monopoly dominance, we might have had a chance of preserving the hobbyist nature of the net and computing in general. We were basically exploited to provide Microsoft with 60 billion in the bank, while running around willy-nilly fixing computers and patching for worms and cleaning up infections. Now it's 2003 and the hobby I used to love doesn't exist anymore. It sucks ass.
It's kind of sad that this is the only place where you get that same kind of...release buzz...that you used to get back in the late 80's or early 90's almost regularly.
The industry just plain sucks nowadays. The shrinkwrap software market is dead. I walk into computer stores and find no one at shelves. No one is really buying anything. Computer shows are pretty much dead, even the swap meet kind. Building your own system is only for old geezers like me. The old local geek meetings like computer clubs pretty much barely exist. The onset of the net killed BBS's dead, eliminating that 'local' link.
This was ultimately the result of Microsoft's dominance. I curse everything I ever did to facilitate it. Sadly, with every day I got up during the 90's to go to work, I helped in many ways, along with thousands of others.
The fun part is that the insurance companies started the trend. and you know what?? you crash your car, the insurance company can instantly get ownership of the car and data by simply "totaling it out" so they will now gladly give the data freely to the courts.
This only applies if you have collision or comprehensive coverage. That means _your_ insurance company, in other words. They can total the car and get the title that way. Generally this is done because of the expectation of 'hidden damage' which would cause the vehicle to cost more to repair than the fair value. (whether you consider the NADA/Red Book/CCC values to be fair is another question entirely - they are generally not that far off)
If it is a liability 'total', ie, by the other driver's company, then you accept the money but they do not (in most cases) take possession of the vehicle unless you want them to. Moreover you do not even have to accept the settlement if you don't want to.
Please note that your insurance company owes you a vigorous defense, and can't be turning information over to the court that would compromise that.
Educate yourself about insurance. You have incorrect notions.
The real problem with the MMORPG (and MUDs for that matter) is that every quest and activity is prescripted and has a fixed outcome. Once you can tell how simple the computer mind is behind everything, you can 'solve' each quest or activity. So you have a load of aliases/macros. Great.
There is no suspension of disbelief as there can be in pencil and paper gaming, or in a solo game such as Baldur's Gate, let's say. (a better example would be Ultima Underworld, a far superior game).
Bartle provides us with a great simplification of the online gaming personality problem. The author of this article is an achiever (as I am) and is jaded (as I am as well). Socializers will be happy with whatever online game they decide to frequent, as long as there are people there. Explorers will be happy as long as there are new areas to check out, and Killers are just leeches on the society as a whole.
I fear the author is never going to find the answer in a MMORPG or a MUD. The only answer is a live GM, or solo play in one of the aforementioned games.
The Domesday Book was the complete account of the lands and people of the nation of England undertaken by William the Conqueror in 1085-86. It bears no resemblance to the science fiction novel cited in the link.
The incoming spam will then have an owner tied to it, who will be held accountable. It's a very workable system actually and not as prone to failure as you are alluding.
So much of life boils down to acknowledging that people are going to try to extract more money from you than the fair and reasonable price for a good or service based upon convenience factors. If you are willing and able to go out of your way to avoid those convenience penalties, you can always get more value for your money.
I don't think WILLING is the correct term here. If given a choice, I'm sure that anyone in the US would choose to pay less for a text book. I think the problem was, and still is to a large extent, ignorance of where else to buy the books.
If I don't like the $47.00 price for cigarettes in New Jersey, for instance, I can go to Virginia and buy a carton for $17.00. This is a direct analogue.
If I am not enlightened enough to know that this is the case, that is my fault. Ditto for those who pay too much for books. They DO have a choice.
The trade barriers that exist based upon national borders allow companies to practice alternative pricing schemes. Obviously, people are willing to pay the higher book prices in the US.
Those who are smart enough to figure out a way to evade it just won. Those who don't, lose.
The big secret of classification is that there really is no secret.
The difference is details. We already know what happened there. The details are classified. So they release them under FOIA, and the conspiracy minded will continue to believe something is being withheld.
You attribute too much group mentality or single-minded leadership to the government. It's a multiheaded hydra and the ass doesn't know what the elbow is doing. If there was any big secret concerning UFOs, the material would have leaked long ago.
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Advocating throwing nonviolent people in prision because they put something into their own bodies that the government doesn't want them to... That sure sounds like hate speech to me.
Ok, but you are a wacko lib. People who do drugs cause harm to others - that's why the war on drugs. The fact that they are recidvist and don't want to change is immaterial and your argument doesn't hold water for that reason. Build more prisons is the ultimate answer, or become China in the 1800s. An also-ran, has-been sorta-nation. I know you have no ambition at all, but the rest of us do.
Calling that hate speech is pretty laughable. Let's have someone reasonable comment.
I don't disagree with the lever effect that Debian's policies have. Obviously the intent is to make as much software Free as possible. Great job as far as that goes. The effect is hard to gauge but obviously significant. Too bad certain industry segments (the video hardware manufacturers, for one) aren't getting on board.
I'm a pragmatist, though. I have to run a big server room, and I like to do useful things with my systems at home and the box I have colo'd up at an ISP. I'd like a technically superior distro that didn't care a whit about ideals. That was primarily my point. I understand this detracts from the goals of Debian - I didn't say it should _be_ Debian.
As I replied to someone else - is it possible that something besides Free software advocacy or money could serve as a motivator to produce a distro? I seem to remember a certain geek/hacker/whatever ethic that was the motivator behind a lot of development we did in the pre-Internet dark ages.
The Debian political process seems to have very little to do with that ethic, hence prompting the initial response.
Most of the Debian developers would probably read your sig and decide that it's the best possible answer they can find to your criticism.
Good for them. They're welcome to do what they want with their time - that is no business of mine. My point mainly is: why does the motivation for creating distros have to be "Viva Free software" ala Debian or "Viva money" ala Red Hat? Isn't there any motivating factor in "Viva quality"? Is there no geek ethic?
I suspect no, but I wondered if anyone cared to comment along those lines.
You would wish that some distro would have its social contract be "To produce a great distribution with the latest software that is stable". Succinct, and what it should be all about.
...well, get involved in same.
If I wanted politics, i'd
I suppose I won't ever be using Debian, given my constraints (I tried it once - packages were way too old for my taste) but I wish someone would take the above to heart.
It's amazing how many people who have never bothered listening to Rush Limbaugh comment about his 'spewing hate'.
Do you believe everything other people tell you? Is hearsay your main means of gathering information? Did it occur to you that possibly someone might not want you to hear what he has to say? Isn't that thought mildly disturbing?
If you had listened to him, I would challenge you to find an instance of him 'spewing hate', rather than just espousing points of view that are not your own.
Comparing Pat Buchanan to Mr. Limbaugh is very kind to the former and defamatory to the latter. I suggest you study your straw men more closely to get a better feel for what they really stand for, instead of advertising your ignorance through posts like this.
...a snatch shot with a bottle of beer embedded inside.
Woops, wrong group, sorry.
That may be true somewhere, but not in the Northeast. You can't get a decent signal anymore, for one. Also, in some areas, the metro area nearest is too far for decent reception so you are compelled to go cable/satellite. I know in this area (NJ) cable is a prerequisite, and you wouldn't think so since we are within easy range of the home stations of the three networks here.
I believe the number of cable/satellite households was bandied about at 80%+? Need to look it up.
Dude, i've been alive quite a while. I have never seen a case where the US government was able to politically sustain devaluing existing citizens' property on a mass basis.
I draw your attention back to the leaded/unleaded gas issue. The switchover happened in 1975 as I remember it. However, no one required that the older vehicles get off the road. You could still readily find leaded gas as late as the early 80's. Even then, the older vehicles without catalytic converters are still on the road to some extent (most of the people who own them have changed the valves, I think. Something about copper being destroyed without the lead-based lubricants being there). Point being you can still use your car.
I guarantee you those TVs will still be useful in 2020 and maybe even 2025. When a sufficient majority of the public no longer owns an old-style tv set, that is when things will change.
Two words: broadcast flag.
Besides which, it's meaningless anyway. Most people have cable. I fail to see what wonderful future digital broadcasts are intended to bring us to, besides DRM.
Last point, it'll take 20 years plus before all the old-style TVs are phased out. Upon my approximate checkout date of 2030, maybe then digital TV will be mainstream.
Since only about one-10,750th of the original carbon in ancient plant material actually ends up as oil, multiply 4.14 kilograms by 10,750 to get roughly 44,500 kilograms of carbon in ancient plant matter to make a gallon of gas.
Umm. Does anyone see a problem with this, given the fact that we aren't even sure of the process by which petroleum becomes petroleum?
Wouldn't that have been a nice thing to put in the post text?
Obviously Java's structure (class files, interpreted code, easy decompilation) makes this easier to accomplish than it would be in C or C++ (or any other language compiled for a particular architecture). It just doesn't make all that much sense for code intended for C compilation, where the source code is freely transmitted. You rewrite out the watermark, it's as easy as that.
i think tim berners-lee'd have something to say about that.
While some of the effects I listed were exacerbated by the presence of the web and the net, I note that Fido didn't destroy everything even though it had a lot of the characteristics of today's Internet. (in fact we had an Internet gateway back then in Net 107 heh heh)
Microsoft, on the other hand, with preinstalled software and draconian licensing, as well as the desire to kill off all commercial competition in most markets, and making those who were in the tools business hang on with their fingernails to solvency (thinking Borland here), pretty much killed the shrinkwrap market for OS and applications. The net effect of this was to invalidate the whole reason for building your own box (for anyone but a hardcore geek) and even thinking much about office suites and the like - it's all Microsoft now. For that matter, the rise of OSS tracks this very action - if you can't compete commercially with them, the only resort is to compete for free. In some respects it's the transition from a business/hobbyist market to a utility. Computers are like the phone now, just less reliable. I don't think this is necessarily a good thing either, mind you.
Without the monopoly dominance, we might have had a chance of preserving the hobbyist nature of the net and computing in general. We were basically exploited to provide Microsoft with 60 billion in the bank, while running around willy-nilly fixing computers and patching for worms and cleaning up infections. Now it's 2003 and the hobby I used to love doesn't exist anymore. It sucks ass.
Atlanta IS a wasteland for that kind of thing, unfortunately. I spent a whole freaking day searching around for a Linksys WET11. No dice.
One good reason not to live there if you like things technological. Besides the traffic by Lenox and Phipps is abysmal. The Buckhead barhoppers...
It's kind of sad that this is the only place where you get that same kind of ...release buzz...that you used to get back in the late 80's or early 90's almost regularly.
The industry just plain sucks nowadays. The shrinkwrap software market is dead. I walk into computer stores and find no one at shelves. No one is really buying anything. Computer shows are pretty much dead, even the swap meet kind. Building your own system is only for old geezers like me. The old local geek meetings like computer clubs pretty much barely exist. The onset of the net killed BBS's dead, eliminating that 'local' link.
This was ultimately the result of Microsoft's dominance. I curse everything I ever did to facilitate it. Sadly, with every day I got up during the 90's to go to work, I helped in many ways, along with thousands of others.
Stupid.
The fun part is that the insurance companies started the trend. and you know what?? you crash your car, the insurance company can instantly get ownership of the car and data by simply "totaling it out" so they will now gladly give the data freely to the courts.
This only applies if you have collision or comprehensive coverage. That means _your_ insurance company, in other words. They can total the car and get the title that way. Generally this is done because of the expectation of 'hidden damage' which would cause the vehicle to cost more to repair than the fair value. (whether you consider the NADA/Red Book/CCC values to be fair is another question entirely - they are generally not that far off)
If it is a liability 'total', ie, by the other driver's company, then you accept the money but they do not (in most cases) take possession of the vehicle unless you want them to. Moreover you do not even have to accept the settlement if you don't want to.
Please note that your insurance company owes you a vigorous defense, and can't be turning information over to the court that would compromise that.
Educate yourself about insurance. You have incorrect notions.
The real problem with the MMORPG (and MUDs for that matter) is that every quest and activity is prescripted and has a fixed outcome. Once you can tell how simple the computer mind is behind everything, you can 'solve' each quest or activity. So you have a load of aliases/macros. Great.
There is no suspension of disbelief as there can be in pencil and paper gaming, or in a solo game such as Baldur's Gate, let's say. (a better example would be Ultima Underworld, a far superior game).
Bartle provides us with a great simplification of the online gaming personality problem. The author of this article is an achiever (as I am) and is jaded (as I am as well). Socializers will be happy with whatever online game they decide to frequent, as long as there are people there. Explorers will be happy as long as there are new areas to check out, and Killers are just leeches on the society as a whole.
I fear the author is never going to find the answer in a MMORPG or a MUD. The only answer is a live GM, or solo play in one of the aforementioned games.
The Domesday Book was the complete account of the lands and people of the nation of England undertaken by William the Conqueror in 1085-86. It bears no resemblance to the science fiction novel cited in the link.
I think they must have reincluded it with 3.11 because I found it there.
:b
I had worked on 2.15 SFT before that, and gotten way familiar with NSnipes
The servers will be now identified by customer.
The incoming spam will then have an owner tied to it, who will be held accountable. It's a very workable system actually and not as prone to failure as you are alluding.
You can evade that as well if you are smart.
So much of life boils down to acknowledging that people are going to try to extract more money from you than the fair and reasonable price for a good or service based upon convenience factors. If you are willing and able to go out of your way to avoid those convenience penalties, you can always get more value for your money.
I don't think WILLING is the correct term here. If given a choice, I'm sure that anyone in the US would choose to pay less for a text book. I think the problem was, and still is to a large extent, ignorance of where else to buy the books.
If I don't like the $47.00 price for cigarettes in New Jersey, for instance, I can go to Virginia and buy a carton for $17.00. This is a direct analogue.
If I am not enlightened enough to know that this is the case, that is my fault. Ditto for those who pay too much for books. They DO have a choice.
The trade barriers that exist based upon national borders allow companies to practice alternative pricing schemes. Obviously, people are willing to pay the higher book prices in the US.
Those who are smart enough to figure out a way to evade it just won. Those who don't, lose.
The big secret of classification is that there really is no secret.
The difference is details. We already know what happened there. The details are classified. So they release them under FOIA, and the conspiracy minded will continue to believe something is being withheld.
You attribute too much group mentality or single-minded leadership to the government. It's a multiheaded hydra and the ass doesn't know what the elbow is doing. If there was any big secret concerning UFOs, the material would have leaked long ago.
Execute the dosversion int 21h call.
Note the result under XP.
That's how.
I suggest UT bot skins that have the Slashdot logo on them.
A few hours of pumping rounds into them should cure everything.