Al Qaeda would happily attack us if it suited their political goal, which was the acquisition of power over their ancestral lands. Their ultimate plans for the Arabian peninsula are irrelevant - the achievement of the goal is what is motivating the anti-US attacks.
Are you really naive enough to believe that tribute in the form of food, clothing, education is going to buy peace? Saudi Arabia is a _very_ affluent nation, yet most of the 9/11 hijackers were from that nation.
Has payment of tribute ever worked in history? Even the Romans would eventually crush those who paid them tribute.
Violence worked in WWII - let violence work again. Crushing the powers that will do us harm is the only way to avoid being destroyed ourselves.
Isn't terrorism left unchecked a destabilizing force in and of itself?
Isn't nuclear proliferation a destabilizing force?
The argument lacks merit on that basis - both US actions are reactive in nature to perceived threat. I think the real thing you fear is change. Unfortunately, the change is being forced upon the US too. Expecting no reaction would be unreasonable in the extreme, which was my initial point.
The UN was intended to serve the purpose the League of Nations never did: provide an infrastructure of 'cooler heads' to keep the global breakout of war from ever happening again after WWII. It is too bad that the very explosions over Hiroshima and Nagasaki that signalled the end of that war, also made the UN itself obsolete.
The brushfire conflicts of the Cold War were intractable to the UN, and those in the post-Cold War world have also proved intractable, save with US intervention, without exception!
The 'cooler heads' missing from 1910's Europe and 1930's Europe are provided by the tens of thousands of nuclear warheads aimed across oceans at various powers. The UN as a peacemaking (or peace-keeping) force is a waste of time.
That being said, the work of WHO and other social services bodies within the UN is very worthwile and would be appropriately continued in a body which no longer had notions of being a world government.
The ultimate US withdrawal from the UN is long overdue.
I am not much for US bashing but I agree with the above. It's funny and it characterizes the current attitude. I wonder however, how the British Empire or any other past nation that exercised a level of hegemony would have reacted to a similar attack. Probably the same deal.
Not that it's 100% right but it's understandable. The US public is sick of taking shit from people halfway around the world so we'll strike out at anyone. Maybe it isn't the right person, but they did us a bad turn sometime in the past (Syria and Iran qualify, hostages in 1979 for the latter, supporting the Lebanese attacks on US troops & hostage taking for the former).
I don't understand what the rest of the world fears from this, save a reduction in their own perceived power because it's clear that an unleashed US is fairly unstoppable short of nuclear annihilation. It's not like we are picking on countries that never fucked around with us. When we start threatening Finland is where I draw the line.
This is the same industry that pushed through mandated SCMS (serial copy management) for all DAT music players. The result was that the consumer format failed even though it would have been an adequate replacement for cassette tape and avoided a lot of the trauma associated with burnable CD-Rs. They tried hard to kill that technology but failed as well. Minidiscs were a similar situation though Sony managed to kill that all by itself.
The recording industry's business plan has been floundering for years - expecting logic from them, beyond the logic that they need to make money, is silly.
Incidentally, those mix tapes were illegal, unfortunately, once they left your hands and entered someone else's. The difference was no one cared back then.
I suggest to you that a military organization would use hardware that is sturdy and reliable, with quality encryption.
I also suggest that the computer hardware utilized for this job would not be permitted to exit certain areas through the utilization of access controls and a complex system of security clearance that only permits acceptable people to have access to data of various levels of classification.
You would have sealed rooms, sealed networks, safes, measures against electronic eavesdropping. Guard dogs and barbed wire, as well as guys with SAWs, are not out of the question either.
Lastly, i'd suggest that anything like the Phoenix system would be considered totally inappropriate because if you let the data get into a situation like that, you've already failed in your charge to keep the data secure.
Error: The first 80386 part (and the slowest) was a 16mhz 80386DX processor. (ditto for the 80386SX, with the 16 bit bus)
You might be referring to a 286 system - 12 mhz 286 boards were actually a hot commodity at one time and the chipset market was crowded with many contenders offering shadow ram features, EMS 4.0, etc.
Perhaps you would have preferred Gulags where they worked you to death, or you counted trees. (1930s Soviet Union)
Perhaps you'd enjoy having your head severed by a guillotine in good old liberal France because you were not Jacobin enough. (1793-95)
Maybe you'd prefer having your kids have little red books and informing on you, often with deadly results. (60's China)
Perhaps you'd prefer being a Pathan tribesman in what is modern-day Afghanistan during the British-run Afghan Wars. Lots of rapine, slaughter, moreso than the Indian campaigns. (1830s-1850s)
There are no such things as Native Americans, we all migrated here at one time or another from Eurasia.
I could go on and on. It's amazing how fast we forget and take things out of historical context...
While in essence I agree with you, there was a middle ground to be struck. Face it, people have a hard time supporting NAMBLA and the American Nazi Party. So when the ACLU appears as champions of said groups on various occasions, for prima facie valid free speech reasons, this puts us off of them.
Weren't there people that weren't social deviants that they could have defended, and made the same point? I have a hard time believing that they couldn't have.
Maybe they are believers in the oft-quoted axiom that 'any publicity is good publicity'. Unfortunately for them, I think they have proven that wrong.
We'll carry any conflict that does happen on Earth to where we go next, Mars, asteroids, etc. Look at how the Napoleonic wars in Europe led to the French/Indian wars in North America. The War of 1812 was also started by European politics. At the time, colonists tried to escape those issues. Any nuclear war would surely spread to the colonies.
Historical nitpick: the French and Indian War was related to the Seven Years' War, which was the apex of Frederick the Great's career.
The War of 1812 was related to the ongoing Napoleonic wars, and the competing 'Continental System' and retaliatory British blockade of most of Continental Europe. The Brits were perceived as weak also because most of their field army was in Spain with Wellington.
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The docs are just fine for getting the job done. Your grandmother won't be able to use Gentoo, but she shouldn't be, either.
The step by step install docs are easily ten times more understandable than my first install of Slackware back in 1994. I have yet to see any *BSD install docs that rise to that level.
Chaotic? Hardly. Get something like Kportage (there are GNOME manager applications too) and it makes a lot of sense and is easy to throw in new ebuilds which work out of the box, and run well since they are compiled for your arch. It's pretty nice to have multiple versions available of different libraries and applications, which will auto-update based on emerge -u world.
If you hate the GPL that's your own religious issue.
To be fair, the FAT filesystem was designed by MS long before consideration for disk repair was on anyone's mind.
Peter Norton wrote his disk repair utilities in the mid 1980's which were eventually snapped up by Symantec, so I don't know if you can make the causal relationship between the two that you can with the IRS and the tax preparers.
It would be so easy to comment on how the 'fire' and 'alt-fire' keys are both bound to flying the white flag of surrender in that game.
Oh well, i'm sure you're a nice person and I am just kidding. Most of the people who make French surrender jokes aren't knowing much about World War I. They might think differently then.
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Vietnam and Algeria.
Also, these current interventions are not proven out as successful yet, and are not large either.
I dispute the validity of your disagreement, in other words.
Al Qaeda would happily attack us if it suited their political goal, which was the acquisition of power over their ancestral lands. Their ultimate plans for the Arabian peninsula are irrelevant - the achievement of the goal is what is motivating the anti-US attacks.
Are you really naive enough to believe that tribute in the form of food, clothing, education is going to buy peace? Saudi Arabia is a _very_ affluent nation, yet most of the 9/11 hijackers were from that nation.
Has payment of tribute ever worked in history? Even the Romans would eventually crush those who paid them tribute.
Violence worked in WWII - let violence work again. Crushing the powers that will do us harm is the only way to avoid being destroyed ourselves.
Isn't terrorism left unchecked a destabilizing force in and of itself?
Isn't nuclear proliferation a destabilizing force?
The argument lacks merit on that basis - both US actions are reactive in nature to perceived threat. I think the real thing you fear is change. Unfortunately, the change is being forced upon the US too. Expecting no reaction would be unreasonable in the extreme, which was my initial point.
Sorry dude. You are in the home of the Eurotrash lefties. They are going to mod you to oblivion for puncturing their stupid worldview.
At least you have a new friend.
Amen to that. Wiser words were never spoken.
The UN was intended to serve the purpose the League of Nations never did: provide an infrastructure of 'cooler heads' to keep the global breakout of war from ever happening again after WWII. It is too bad that the very explosions over Hiroshima and Nagasaki that signalled the end of that war, also made the UN itself obsolete.
The brushfire conflicts of the Cold War were intractable to the UN, and those in the post-Cold War world have also proved intractable, save with US intervention, without exception!
The 'cooler heads' missing from 1910's Europe and 1930's Europe are provided by the tens of thousands of nuclear warheads aimed across oceans at various powers. The UN as a peacemaking (or peace-keeping) force is a waste of time.
That being said, the work of WHO and other social services bodies within the UN is very worthwile and would be appropriately continued in a body which no longer had notions of being a world government.
The ultimate US withdrawal from the UN is long overdue.
I am not much for US bashing but I agree with the above. It's funny and it characterizes the current attitude. I wonder however, how the British Empire or any other past nation that exercised a level of hegemony would have reacted to a similar attack. Probably the same deal.
Not that it's 100% right but it's understandable. The US public is sick of taking shit from people halfway around the world so we'll strike out at anyone. Maybe it isn't the right person, but they did us a bad turn sometime in the past (Syria and Iran qualify, hostages in 1979 for the latter, supporting the Lebanese attacks on US troops & hostage taking for the former).
I don't understand what the rest of the world fears from this, save a reduction in their own perceived power because it's clear that an unleashed US is fairly unstoppable short of nuclear annihilation. It's not like we are picking on countries that never fucked around with us. When we start threatening Finland is where I draw the line.
The fact that some of you are scumbags does not invalidate the great mass of decent people. At least I hope there are a great mass of you.
That's what keeps us going.
This is the same industry that pushed through mandated SCMS (serial copy management) for all DAT music players. The result was that the consumer format failed even though it would have been an adequate replacement for cassette tape and avoided a lot of the trauma associated with burnable CD-Rs. They tried hard to kill that technology but failed as well. Minidiscs were a similar situation though Sony managed to kill that all by itself.
The recording industry's business plan has been floundering for years - expecting logic from them, beyond the logic that they need to make money, is silly.
Incidentally, those mix tapes were illegal, unfortunately, once they left your hands and entered someone else's. The difference was no one cared back then.
I suggest to you that a military organization would use hardware that is sturdy and reliable, with quality encryption.
I also suggest that the computer hardware utilized for this job would not be permitted to exit certain areas through the utilization of access controls and a complex system of security clearance that only permits acceptable people to have access to data of various levels of classification.
You would have sealed rooms, sealed networks, safes, measures against electronic eavesdropping. Guard dogs and barbed wire, as well as guys with SAWs, are not out of the question either.
Lastly, i'd suggest that anything like the Phoenix system would be considered totally inappropriate because if you let the data get into a situation like that, you've already failed in your charge to keep the data secure.
Error: The first 80386 part (and the slowest) was a 16mhz 80386DX processor. (ditto for the 80386SX, with the 16 bit bus)
You might be referring to a 286 system - 12 mhz 286 boards were actually a hot commodity at one time and the chipset market was crowded with many contenders offering shadow ram features, EMS 4.0, etc.
No, sorry, won't cater to your anti-american viewpoint.
Fuck you very much, have a nice day.
I'm usually loath to suggest that someone walk in front of a speeding bus, but in your case i'll make an exception.
The needless anti-American slant was my main target.
Perhaps you would have preferred Gulags where they worked you to death, or you counted trees. (1930s Soviet Union)
Perhaps you'd enjoy having your head severed by a guillotine in good old liberal France because you were not Jacobin enough. (1793-95)
Maybe you'd prefer having your kids have little red books and informing on you, often with deadly results. (60's China)
Perhaps you'd prefer being a Pathan tribesman in what is modern-day Afghanistan during the British-run Afghan Wars. Lots of rapine, slaughter, moreso than the Indian campaigns. (1830s-1850s)
There are no such things as Native Americans, we all migrated here at one time or another from Eurasia.
I could go on and on. It's amazing how fast we forget and take things out of historical context...
What you say is interesting but the law will be struck down. Eventually.
I suspect the lawmakers know this too. This is a vote-getter. "Look at what I did about violence in video games!"
This is an area the (US) government cannot regulate. Really.
I'm older than you I suspect.
I do a good job of pretending to be normal to people who expect that. It was a required quality to be a geek in the 1970's and 80's. A survival skill.
While in essence I agree with you, there was a middle ground to be struck. Face it, people have a hard time supporting NAMBLA and the American Nazi Party. So when the ACLU appears as champions of said groups on various occasions, for prima facie valid free speech reasons, this puts us off of them.
Weren't there people that weren't social deviants that they could have defended, and made the same point? I have a hard time believing that they couldn't have.
Maybe they are believers in the oft-quoted axiom that 'any publicity is good publicity'. Unfortunately for them, I think they have proven that wrong.
As soon as you say ACLU I differ with you.
Too much defending the weird instead of defending the righteous cost the ACLU any chance of my support.
See how strange politics is?
We'll carry any conflict that does happen on Earth to where we go next, Mars, asteroids, etc. Look at how the Napoleonic wars in Europe led to the French/Indian wars in North America. The War of 1812 was also started by European politics. At the time, colonists tried to escape those issues. Any nuclear war would surely spread to the colonies.
Historical nitpick: the French and Indian War was related to the Seven Years' War, which was the apex of Frederick the Great's career.
The War of 1812 was related to the ongoing Napoleonic wars, and the competing 'Continental System' and retaliatory British blockade of most of Continental Europe. The Brits were perceived as weak also because most of their field army was in Spain with Wellington.
The docs are just fine for getting the job done. Your grandmother won't be able to use Gentoo, but she shouldn't be, either.
The step by step install docs are easily ten times more understandable than my first install of Slackware back in 1994. I have yet to see any *BSD install docs that rise to that level.
Chaotic? Hardly. Get something like Kportage (there are GNOME manager applications too) and it makes a lot of sense and is easy to throw in new ebuilds which work out of the box, and run well since they are compiled for your arch. It's pretty nice to have multiple versions available of different libraries and applications, which will auto-update based on emerge -u world.
If you hate the GPL that's your own religious issue.
To be fair, the FAT filesystem was designed by MS long before consideration for disk repair was on anyone's mind.
Peter Norton wrote his disk repair utilities in the mid 1980's which were eventually snapped up by Symantec, so I don't know if you can make the causal relationship between the two that you can with the IRS and the tax preparers.
Why are you tempting me like this?
It would be so easy to comment on how the 'fire' and 'alt-fire' keys are both bound to flying the white flag of surrender in that game.
Oh well, i'm sure you're a nice person and I am just kidding. Most of the people who make French surrender jokes aren't knowing much about World War I. They might think differently then.
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Actually it'll probably be the end of the current phase of modern civilization.
The death throes of a mighty empire are pretty destructive. Look at Western Europe after the dissolution of the Western Empire. Pretty bleak.
Couple that with nuclear weapons...
Let's hope we skip the wither stage.
You know, I wonder if either of these idiot companies will realize that tax software is a luxury.
I can still do it by hand if I have to. Sure, I have a 1040 with a sched C to do, but even then it's only an hour or two.