No, I'm saying SUV's make life allot easier to move.
The thing you are forgetting is vehicles aren't just for getting to work and back.
I realize that may be what *you* do, however you don't count for everyone.
Let's compare:
Sudan: Carries 4 people comfortably (usually) and has a trunk that can carry a little bit of stuff
Truck: Carries 2 people comfortably. Has the capability of towing and having huge sotrage (which can be used to camp in too).
SUV: Carries 4 people comfortably, has towing capabilities, AND has a reasonable trunk.
So, let's re-count:
I take 4 friends jet ski'ing at the lake.
In your scenario, I would have to take two vehicles to get the job done (go ahead and two boats/jet ski's/bigger items in 4-banger.. I dare ya).
However, with an SUV, I take one vehicle. Saving gas and makes everyone's lives easier.
Do this every weekend throughout summer, every weekend. Which would *you* choose?
So, I'd like to ask you a question (one that isn't rhetorical, as opposed to the ones before this):
At what point does a vehicle become 'dangerous' for out planet?
I ask this becuase what about a sports car? Or a full-size car? Should *everyone* be forced to drive a small car?
What's sad, is we live in world where money gets things that aren't right. It can buy a murder, politician, and conviencance. I won't disagree that it's not right. I can afford an SUV.
And yes, I am taxxed on it. It's called the 'gas' tax. Ever noticed that you don't pay normal tax on it? This is becuase it's already put into the price. so I'm capable of affording this behemoth.
If you really want to change the world for the better, not only should you give ideas on what is better for people's needs (I bet you think Linux > Windows too huh? Well, the reality is sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. I, personally, like to use the tool that's best for the job.. but that's just me) but also how to get them into a new vehcile that is more gas effecient.
I have about $14,000 owed on my behemoth. How do you propose I get myself into a vehicle about the same (I'm willing to go down a little, if I have to) but more effecient?
If you can make a plan that doesn't suck and actually helps people, other than vent flames (like: Whatever Punk !!) then you may be able to do your part in helping the world instead of contributing to the anger.
Ok, let's make a reality check here.
I drive a Nissan XTerra 6cyl. (medium sized SUV)
Why? Becuase I can tow boats/jet skis, carry 6 people, camp inside of it, carry luggage on top, and have a kid or two in the back playing around.
I tend to do these fairly regularly. You couldn't do this in two of your 4 bangers, or at least not down here. Not without over-heating the engine (pulling all of that). I actually make use of my SUV, unlike many others. But if you want to discuss who is going to make use of it, you might as well start putting restrictions on other things: Food (we don't need that unhealthy junk food... too many people litter anyways), batteries (oh come on, you haven't gone to rechargables yet? they only take 15 minutes to recharge), games (some of these games are 'eevil').
I have seen the soccer mom with the Excretion.. err, I mean Excursion. On the other than, soccer mom sometimes takes 8 kids with her. For Japan or New York, it's pointless and stupid -- but for Texas, it's not.
Now, if they did have a descent SUV (that wasn't dog ass slow getting on the highway) that was energy effecient, I would get one in a heartbeat.
In a side note, the Kyoto Protocol was stupid to being with. Do you realize that it would have *destroyed* our economy? (ours as well as Australias).
It would have made getting oil financially impossible (or so low of profit, it's not worth it) and would have put allot of people out of a job.
Puh-leeze. Are you telling me you expect a noob to know this? How is my grandmother supposed to know of this? Why doesn't the little red arrow (update icon) display yet? So, as far as I'm concerend -- it's not. *tick* *tock*
I don't think people think copyright infringement is OK, I think they think otherwise.
Think about it. The radio is free (well, the muzak), why shouldn't I just be able to download the music?
You and I both know the radio stations make money from the ads (and that's how the music is free) but for the most part, many people don't think about it (they might know it, but it just never connects).
I don't think music should be free, but I also think they charge an insane amount for most of it. What people fail to realise is how much our culture and society revovles around music. Driving home? Work? Programming? So it's not like the excuse of 'well, don't like the price? don't buy it!' will fly... if it's that damned easy, people will do it. Just becuase it's illegal doesn't mean it's immoral. Our society dictates what's immoral and whatnot. Apparantly they don't care.
The RIAA can do whatever they want. While I don't think they will die (not within the near future.. unless they do something horrendously stupid... like sue me! (hehe)) I think they will *NEVER* make the money they used to.
This happens when techology replaces some things... it sucks... it rules... get over it. If I wanna surf the pirate seas, jump on the same band-wagon as the Microsoft pirates and cry me a river. Charge less. Yes, this means less profit... I don't care. Why should I care? You're out to screw me anyways, why should I care when I screw you? ohh wait, corporate america.
The street works both ways. We've been screwed for so long, but now they want to complain when people screw them? Cry me a fucking river. Call the kettle black. Whatever.
Where was I going with this argument? umm... apparantly no where...
Actually, I think better documentation would be better than actually just up and giving it to them. For example, I've begun writting a Virtual Server HOWTO for Linux (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_Virtual_Server ). In the process of getting all this going, it's very likely you will understand how much of those services work (and can thusly troubleshoot them better, which in return give you a lower 'in the end' cost.. TCO? I don't remember the acronym for it).
Anways, I believe what many business's need is already there, but it's just too difficult to get it all going. Giving a nicely formatted HOWTO for most services will probably help *allot*.
I do highly believe that the GUI and interface are far below Microsoft standards. Using Microsoft ISA 2000 was *far* easier to learn that kernel+iptables and all that goodness.../two bits
Actually, I think that becuase you aren't representing them nor selling something as them, then you are ok.
What I *think* they were thinking was that you could be sending emails as dmv@domain.tld -- and this would probably tick them off, as you could be causing trouble in their lands (not that I think they could do anything about it... but...)
Generally, the reply of "The please list to me every alias or email address I can not have, so that I may purge my database. I would also like proof of you owning said names and characters. Failure to produce a clean and consice list will result in your emails being ignored and this alias continued. I would also like to note that since that email alias is the one I contact you with, that you are implying that you do not want to contact me anymore and would thusly like to contact me via telephone (insert number here). I would like a signed statement of the such, so I can keep for my records."
I say this, becuase I've been in the same boat as you... usually they just stop talking. If they then proceed to nag you, get a signed letter and remove the name. Afterall, if they need to send you something, they've done promised they would contact you via telephone. I, personally, would not accept snail mail as an option as it can't be trusted (yes, sir, we mailed it 3 months ago. What? you didn't get it. Too bad, so sad; you get the idea). I've never recieved a signed letter, but they usually stop talking because they aren't willing to back up their talk. It ain't legal if it ain't on paper... generally speaking, of course./two bits
"I never said you couldn't, I only said many others had contradictory experiences. Or is anybody who disagrees with you automatically wrong?"
So, becuase I disagree, I automatically believe everyone else is wrong? Please explain where you came to that conclusion. Elaborate the sentaces please.
"No, 98 has FAT32."
Ok, do I really need to get anal retentive? I'll avoid that. They, essentially, are the same. Yes, I know the technical difference...
"Well, them and the dozens of script kiddies butt-surfing your box on the latest sploit MS hasn't found out about yet."
Perhaps you haven't been following recent events, but every time MS releases a patch *then* the viruses get released. Amazing, I was never infect becuase *gasp* I was up to date. Go ahead and run a rev1 apache server on Linux kernel 2.1 or some combination like that. If you run out of date software then you shoudl *expect* problems to happen, aside from OpenBSD based solutions.
"Never seen a box in my life that ran faster under xp than 98. XP's footprint is HUGE. It requires something like 30-40 system processes just to be a normal PC. Try a/b-ing the two on the same box with any kind of benchmarking."
What's stopping these processing from speeding up things? If I have a 3.0ghz with 1GB of memory and some uber fast hard drive, which should allow XP to do what it needs to do, then I'm fairly certain it's faster. I can't prove one way or the other. Until either of us (or someone else) proves otherwise, we won't know and it will all be heresay.
"But not XP, which is even slower than 2k and full of unnecessary crap like pretty round buttons. Gag."
And 2K is not capable of running some ancient apps that WinXP / 98 can. Yes, I know some biz's should update their software but these things don't happen all the time if it 'just works'.
"Hey, Einstein, guess what I just did? Got windows updates for the 98 box I'm on right now. Turns out you don't have to have MS push them to you in order to get them. Next."
Hmm, getting insulting are we? I seemed to have pushed you into a corner or you're an out-right ass in the first place. Choose -- or not -- I don't care.
For a OS with networking designed at the last minute, you probably have a false sense of security.
"If something had happened there would be some kind of performace loss, used disk space, that can and would be detected since I work routinely with massive amounts of massive files and very CPU intensive applications. But the main reason I know is cuz nobody's bothering to write worms for it anymore. Why bother, when writing worms for xp is so EASY (thanks again MS)? Can you even tell me the last virus or worm that targeted 98 was released?"
Same could be said for XP, except with XP, I can actually track my processes. Win98 can't -- not even 'top' for Win98 can do it accurately. It's sooo easy huh? Prove it. I want to see you have some form of proof. I dont' expect you to write a virus, but I do expect you to point out holes and not some web based crap. I want to see yo udo this by hand, becuase since the virus writter apparantly do it before the bugs are patched (that's what you are trying to say, as far as I can tell). or should I just call bullshit now?
" UNINSTALL INTERNET EXPLODER COMPLETELY!" Oh, really? haha. crackbaby.com (down now) released an article on how to do it. I'll go find it again and prove you wrong (Assuming I actually remember to come back... if you post back, I'll prolly see a message). I know understand you are the average slashdotter who only knows what slashdot says. Got it, thanks!
"an idiot is somebody who assumes that everybody else's requirements for a system are the same as his own."
I couldn't have said it better, however you seem to be in the average slashdot crowd... so I dub thee idiot.
I'm going to have to disagree, I believe XP is signifigantly better. It seems faster for me, but not only that it's more secure. Here, check this out: In business's they have these things called "Domain Controllers". Windows 2K/XP has NTFS. Win95/98 has FAT.
I can restrict my share so only my boss and the department can read/write the files but everyone else can only read. Do this in 98.
Here's another thing: Goto BestBuy and buy some pen drive. Plug it in each OS. Well, shiat, your 98 doesn't have drivers. Gotta use company time downloading those. Even then, sometimes the point of a pen drive is for a machine with no access, so now you have to burn it to a CD. But what if you upgrade your pen drive to a bigger size? Well drap, gotta repeat this process.
Well, another thing: SUS (Software Update Services). Push updates out to Win9x boxen. Now try with XP.
Some say 98 is out longer and is 99.9% secure. This isn't true. You haven't seen anything nasty becuase Microsoft doesn't push updates out anymore. You're screwed if something happens. Who's to say something hasn't happened and you don't know about it?
I'm curious to know how developing.NET software in Win98 is.
I'm curious to know what real-time software exists for it (For example, we use InTime for 2K/XP).
A great many things can be done with XP/2K that can't for 98.
Are you using Linux Kernel 1.5? No. Why do you upgrade? Does your computer run?
I hope I'm reading this right. I'm reading this as "Would you rather software that's free (GPL F/OSS) or software that does a better job?" Personally, whichever gets the job done the cheapest and most painless for me. I use Gento and Windows XP Professional. Gentoo runs my web server, IRC server, teamspeak server, mail, imap, etc. Windows runs the software I'm typing this in (Firefox), Steam (and all it's little pieces like Counter-Strike), and all those goodies. To be honest, I really probably would be using Linux hardcore if it wasn't for the difficulty in the wireless area.
Software is just like real world property. You want to get a nice piece of toilet paper (you won't want sand paper, do you?) but you aren't going to spend $100 / roll are you? A great example is OpenOffice vs Microsoft Office 2003. I *love* MSO03 (it's p-u-rty and Outlook has nice spam filtering) and it can do pivot tables too. I don't see how OO can do that. So, do I need pivot tables in my personal life? What about buisness life? Luckily for me, it's neither. But I'm sure there is someone that might. If I could afford to purchase Office 2003 for my computer at home, I would. Unforuntly, that's buying the $100/roll of toilet paper that I can't afford -- and don't have to thanks to OpenOffice. Eventually this will do one of two things. Bring the prive of MSO03 down to a more reasonable price (or to what I percieve to be reasonable) or kill it. I hope it doesn't kill it -- because I believe OO needs it's own competition too. Everyone has there preference to where the line is. This is why humanity has survived sooo long and why the debate for Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac vs. *BSD has gone on for so long.
So, my answer to the question: Whichever one that doesn't make me spend too long trying it figure a thing I believe to be trivial out.
Obviously I'm willing to go through enough hassle to get my server running Linux but not my desktop. My server is one hobby. My desktop is my tool to do other things that help this hobby. That's how I like to spend my time and where my freedoms value me.
Unfortunelty my employer isn't all that worried about seurity. If someone is trying to hack our robots, it's not going to be all that difficult to break things and the real benefit is nill. We plan on trying to limit some stuff, but I lack faith in my employers paranoia level and intelligence in security. It wouldn't surpise me if he isn't even following good secure programming... but he is great for learning things, his coding is shit when it comes to the real deal (I have yet to hear someone say his code is clean.... EVER).
So, back on to the topic of security: I think we will dumb down Windows so they can't do much (such as access the start menu, no right-click / context menu on the desktop, etc) and I think we will through a hardware firewall (cheaper) infront of our mini-network, only allowing VPN and remote connecting in/out. Our robot code can only be compiled with a certain dongle / key, or so I'm told that will be the end result. Thusly your tow main fears (A) stupid/ignorant users and (b) network attacks are halted to a grind by blocking all but those ports. Obviously thier are some security issues with VPN (PPTP I think) and remote connection, and one would be foolish to believe they are completly secure, but this should get rid of a stupid IT Tech who thinks they can dork with the system... the IT Tech is what we fear more, they are *always* the ones braking the system more often than the users. Since we are going to Windows (From QNX) we have an even higher fear.
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I believe the way Tenasys works is that they use a driver that hogs *all* the process, and lets Windows run when it has some spare CPU to give back to Windows. This effectivly allows you (a) to hurt yourself through stupid programming (as any RT programmer will tell you..) and (b) to aquire real time programming without the chance of thinking sucking. This is becuase Windows can't really be trusted as a "low priority" and the other proeccess set to "real time priority" becuase Windows sets itself to be higher. So I think in this instance, they are safe from the patent. How ironic, the reason Windows sucks (in the RT field) is the reason Tenasys is saved. Humor anyone?:-)
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Could you give some quantifiable reasons why you think Tenasys is in violation of the RT Linux patent?
I forgot to add, XP Embedded also allows you to cut stuff out. So the Linux being modular doesn't help very much in this case... (Aside from the monetary value)
My employer had to choose Windows over Linux becuase Linux lacked true realtime support. Windows doesn't either, however their is third party software and developing projects is (supposedly) easier with Windows. Our sales dudes also wanted to be able to say "We use Windows!"...
We looked at Linux but Linux was just too slow.
We are currently moving away from QNX 4.25 (yeah, I know... really old... we are even on the f patch... I finally convinced them to goto g for the server, so I could do backups.. otherwise cp would crash after 64k of files...).
We currently build custom industrial robots, so we *have* to have real time or else things could suck. Although I think Linux is a while from where Tenasys InTime (our current third party software) level, it's nice to know people are still working on it... so Linux may become a chance in 8 or so years... when we want to move to another platform.
I wonder if the medical field would be intersted in RT Linux... I don't know if they require some special stuff because of legallity or something though...
Actually I use most common OS's. Windows XP, Win2K, Windows 2003, Gentoo, LFS, and Slackware (and some other not so common OS's: SGL [before it died] and QNX) I refuse to go Redhat/Fedora. I choose whatever *gets the job done* with the least amount of pain. When I say pain, I refer to finanacial and time. If I'm willing to spend $XXX on Windows XP, then thats my perogative. If I'd rather take the learning curve for distro X, same thing.
And as for my analoy, you interpreted it wrong. I probably could have worded it better though. Do you build your own cars? -- I'm too tired to continue this side of the argument. *sigh*
I'm not arguing what I want, I'm arguing what most of the population is like. Just becuase I like to play devil's advocate doesn't mean I agree with it. Lets face reality here, people like the live the laziest lives they can. *Everyone* is like that. If they know they can get away without doing something and it won't cost them anything, they will do it, otherwise they are fools for wasting the energy (becuase, as I stated -- it didn't cost them anything in terms of money, time, etc). Most people don't know any better. Referring to the USSR is generally referring to communism becuase you don't want a choice, or at least that is how I intrepeted it. I, personally, would rather a real democracy. It would get people invovled and learn what the real world is like, sadly I live in Amera where it is a republic -- where you must choose the lesser of two (or more) evils. The cost, is it takes a while for change to occur, becuase everyone is invovled you can um-ptine million opinions.
Forgive the grammatical and spelling errors, meds are starting to kick in -- as well as my normal lack of forte in grammer.
Not everyone likes to know everything about everything. Just becuase we are into computer doesn't mean everyone has to be. When you car breaks down, do you fix everything by yourself becuase you have the "freedom" to choose what parts you want or do you just want it fixed so it will "just run"? hm, seems like you would do fine in the USSR. What about your house? Pipes in your house? Electrical work? Not everyone knows everything, we all like to focus on our *HOBBIES* and let everything else "just work." Thank you for trolling and thinking we all must be like you or else we are communist, have a nice day!
I agree and disagree with your opinoin. Just becuase someone complains about something, doesn't mean they should fix it or shut up. If that were the case, we would all be working on *tons* of things and it would most certainly overwelm us. I like open source stuff allot, but I still can't get my business to move ove becuase they aren't good enough. Microsoft is still better, or at least OO and other misc OS programs just aren't compatible enough yet. We use allot of the weird stuff, but I don't have the knowledge to even contribute into anything usefull. I'm willing to offer my opinion all day long and expertise in my field of choice (which is not *gasp* hardcore programming), sadly the OS community doesn't really need my advise so I'm not much use currently. Stop preaching, like the linux zealot that sits across from me. We all know where everyone stands. Everyone OS has it's advantage. Yes, even Windows has an advantage or two. Where am I going with this? I don't remember anymore *sigh* Lost track of thought. Anyways, you can call Microsofts software crap, but in reality it's good enough to dominate most of the world, and apprently better than OO for more places. I, personally, use whatever will get the job done the most effecient way. I'm willing to *pay* to make that happen. Microsoft produces products that will get my job done. Other linux distro's help as well. The grass is always greener... </rant>
I'll admit, even I have been hit three times becuase I used IE, however for the most part it's more of a social problem than anything. It's the clicking through EULA's without caring. For example, we have someone in recieving who liked Gator becuase it stored her information and put it on a web-page when appropriate, however had she read (and understood) the EULA she would have not installed it. We cant use Firefox/Mozilla becuase of misc problems, so they are stuck with IE (for now). I think business's should offer a basic teaching class for internet etiquette and basic knowledge. I say busienss's becuase it would benefit them more (or at least some of the smaller ones who don't have the easily enforced corporate policies) to spend a few hours teaching their employee's. Yes, I know they should be fired or whatever punishment deemed fitting, but in a small/medium company you can't just up and do that for something as small as being ignorant on computers, becuase most of the people you hire aren't the brightest in computers but they are excellent at there job.
I just turned 21, and my insurance got cut in half. I was paying $280 a month, $70 MORE than my truck note! Every year it would go up, and I've never been in a work. From what I have learned, if the Insurance companies make $3mill one year, and $2mill the next, they call is a $1mill loss. From what I've gathered thus far, insurance isn't regulated and needs to be, how to do it... I don't know. I live in Texas, and it appears more and more people are driving without insurance becuase they can't afford it. Hell, I'm tempted myself to drop it. I'm almost willing to take the chance and get fined (which is _still_ less) for driving without insurance. Sadly, because I have a loan I can not cut insurance, I must have full coverage. If I go to other insurance companies, I've heard of horrors of them not paying or taking forever or some crap. It's a trap, a trap I say!:-)
My point is, we are all in the same field, except only the docters have the denero to fight it.
Ok, how many people on/. declare US as inferior?
Let's face it, we ALL have our faults. Man kind, nation, social, educational, everyone.
Everytime I read on/. someone makes a comment about another country, this is starting to sound like children bickering. How about we ignore those post for a change, don't feed the fire?
What we ought (is that even a word?) to be doing is asking what went wrong and given possibilities until we are able to narrow down what happened.
Hmm, seems like that's already been done (for the most part).
OK, what's next? We learn from that mistake. All space programs will learn from this.
I could go on, but that would take this further off topic.
It's working for me, I stopped sharing and downloading.
However, I also haven't bought a CD from them in uhh.... uhh.... can't remember.
I used to have a MASSIVE collection of cd's.
I'm only 20 years old and already stopped buying from them... they lost any potential from me.
A friend of mine told me of some place about an hour drive away with about the same msuic, except much cheaper and don't deal with the recording industry.
The recording industry shot themselves in the foot, much like the oil industry is doing with the price of gas (by raising prices and making people think "I wish there was some other way...").
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I'd love to get paid hourly for that one;-)
but seriously, what would the salary be for a job like that?
What kind of effects would it have on you?
IIRC, going to space and back seem to have strange effects on you, mostly due to gravity.
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/livinginspace/Foa le-Record.html [nasa.gov] -- notice it was 12.09.03, so it is recent. "230 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes and 37 seconds in space."
I wonder if a couple years would be a differece.
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No, I'm saying SUV's make life allot easier to move. The thing you are forgetting is vehicles aren't just for getting to work and back. I realize that may be what *you* do, however you don't count for everyone. Let's compare: Sudan: Carries 4 people comfortably (usually) and has a trunk that can carry a little bit of stuff Truck: Carries 2 people comfortably. Has the capability of towing and having huge sotrage (which can be used to camp in too). SUV: Carries 4 people comfortably, has towing capabilities, AND has a reasonable trunk. So, let's re-count: I take 4 friends jet ski'ing at the lake. In your scenario, I would have to take two vehicles to get the job done (go ahead and two boats/jet ski's/bigger items in 4-banger.. I dare ya). However, with an SUV, I take one vehicle. Saving gas and makes everyone's lives easier. Do this every weekend throughout summer, every weekend. Which would *you* choose? So, I'd like to ask you a question (one that isn't rhetorical, as opposed to the ones before this): At what point does a vehicle become 'dangerous' for out planet? I ask this becuase what about a sports car? Or a full-size car? Should *everyone* be forced to drive a small car? What's sad, is we live in world where money gets things that aren't right. It can buy a murder, politician, and conviencance. I won't disagree that it's not right. I can afford an SUV. And yes, I am taxxed on it. It's called the 'gas' tax. Ever noticed that you don't pay normal tax on it? This is becuase it's already put into the price. so I'm capable of affording this behemoth. If you really want to change the world for the better, not only should you give ideas on what is better for people's needs (I bet you think Linux > Windows too huh? Well, the reality is sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. I, personally, like to use the tool that's best for the job.. but that's just me) but also how to get them into a new vehcile that is more gas effecient. I have about $14,000 owed on my behemoth. How do you propose I get myself into a vehicle about the same (I'm willing to go down a little, if I have to) but more effecient? If you can make a plan that doesn't suck and actually helps people, other than vent flames (like: Whatever Punk !!) then you may be able to do your part in helping the world instead of contributing to the anger.
Ok, let's make a reality check here. I drive a Nissan XTerra 6cyl. (medium sized SUV) Why? Becuase I can tow boats/jet skis, carry 6 people, camp inside of it, carry luggage on top, and have a kid or two in the back playing around. I tend to do these fairly regularly. You couldn't do this in two of your 4 bangers, or at least not down here. Not without over-heating the engine (pulling all of that). I actually make use of my SUV, unlike many others. But if you want to discuss who is going to make use of it, you might as well start putting restrictions on other things: Food (we don't need that unhealthy junk food... too many people litter anyways), batteries (oh come on, you haven't gone to rechargables yet? they only take 15 minutes to recharge), games (some of these games are 'eevil'). I have seen the soccer mom with the Excretion.. err, I mean Excursion. On the other than, soccer mom sometimes takes 8 kids with her. For Japan or New York, it's pointless and stupid -- but for Texas, it's not. Now, if they did have a descent SUV (that wasn't dog ass slow getting on the highway) that was energy effecient, I would get one in a heartbeat. In a side note, the Kyoto Protocol was stupid to being with. Do you realize that it would have *destroyed* our economy? (ours as well as Australias). It would have made getting oil financially impossible (or so low of profit, it's not worth it) and would have put allot of people out of a job.
Puh-leeze.
Are you telling me you expect a noob to know this?
How is my grandmother supposed to know of this?
Why doesn't the little red arrow (update icon) display yet?
So, as far as I'm concerend -- it's not.
*tick* *tock*
I don't think people think copyright infringement is OK, I think they think otherwise.
Think about it. The radio is free (well, the muzak), why shouldn't I just be able to download the music?
You and I both know the radio stations make money from the ads (and that's how the music is free) but for the most part, many people don't think about it (they might know it, but it just never connects).
I don't think music should be free, but I also think they charge an insane amount for most of it. What people fail to realise is how much our culture and society revovles around music. Driving home? Work? Programming? So it's not like the excuse of 'well, don't like the price? don't buy it!' will fly... if it's that damned easy, people will do it. Just becuase it's illegal doesn't mean it's immoral. Our society dictates what's immoral and whatnot. Apparantly they don't care.
The RIAA can do whatever they want. While I don't think they will die (not within the near future.. unless they do something horrendously stupid... like sue me! (hehe)) I think they will *NEVER* make the money they used to.
This happens when techology replaces some things... it sucks... it rules... get over it.
If I wanna surf the pirate seas, jump on the same band-wagon as the Microsoft pirates and cry me a river. Charge less. Yes, this means less profit... I don't care. Why should I care? You're out to screw me anyways, why should I care when I screw you? ohh wait, corporate america.
The street works both ways. We've been screwed for so long, but now they want to complain when people screw them? Cry me a fucking river. Call the kettle black. Whatever.
Where was I going with this argument? umm... apparantly no where...
For those intersted... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Icecast_OGG_and_MP3_s treaming
Actually, I think better documentation would be better than actually just up and giving it to them.r ). In the process of getting all this going, it's very likely you will understand how much of those services work (and can thusly troubleshoot them better, which in return give you a lower 'in the end' cost.. TCO? I don't remember the acronym for it).
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For example, I've begun writting a Virtual Server HOWTO for Linux (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_Virtual_Serve
Anways, I believe what many business's need is already there, but it's just too difficult to get it all going. Giving a nicely formatted HOWTO for most services will probably help *allot*.
I do highly believe that the GUI and interface are far below Microsoft standards. Using Microsoft ISA 2000 was *far* easier to learn that kernel+iptables and all that goodness...
Actually, I think that becuase you aren't representing them nor selling something as them, then you are ok.
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What I *think* they were thinking was that you could be sending emails as dmv@domain.tld -- and this would probably tick them off, as you could be causing trouble in their lands (not that I think they could do anything about it... but...)
Generally, the reply of "The please list to me every alias or email address I can not have, so that I may purge my database. I would also like proof of you owning said names and characters. Failure to produce a clean and consice list will result in your emails being ignored and this alias continued. I would also like to note that since that email alias is the one I contact you with, that you are implying that you do not want to contact me anymore and would thusly like to contact me via telephone (insert number here). I would like a signed statement of the such, so I can keep for my records."
I say this, becuase I've been in the same boat as you... usually they just stop talking. If they then proceed to nag you, get a signed letter and remove the name. Afterall, if they need to send you something, they've done promised they would contact you via telephone. I, personally, would not accept snail mail as an option as it can't be trusted (yes, sir, we mailed it 3 months ago. What? you didn't get it. Too bad, so sad; you get the idea). I've never recieved a signed letter, but they usually stop talking because they aren't willing to back up their talk.
It ain't legal if it ain't on paper... generally speaking, of course.
"I never said you couldn't, I only said many others had contradictory experiences. Or is anybody who disagrees with you automatically wrong?"
So, becuase I disagree, I automatically believe everyone else is wrong? Please explain where you came to that conclusion. Elaborate the sentaces please.
"No, 98 has FAT32."
Ok, do I really need to get anal retentive? I'll avoid that. They, essentially, are the same. Yes, I know the technical difference...
"Well, them and the dozens of script kiddies butt-surfing your box on the latest sploit MS hasn't found out about yet."
Perhaps you haven't been following recent events, but every time MS releases a patch *then* the viruses get released. Amazing, I was never infect becuase *gasp* I was up to date.
Go ahead and run a rev1 apache server on Linux kernel 2.1 or some combination like that. If you run out of date software then you shoudl *expect* problems to happen, aside from OpenBSD based solutions.
"Never seen a box in my life that ran faster under xp than 98. XP's footprint is HUGE. It requires something like 30-40 system processes just to be a normal PC. Try a/b-ing the two on the same box with any kind of benchmarking."
What's stopping these processing from speeding up things?
If I have a 3.0ghz with 1GB of memory and some uber fast hard drive, which should allow XP to do what it needs to do, then I'm fairly certain it's faster. I can't prove one way or the other. Until either of us (or someone else) proves otherwise, we won't know and it will all be heresay.
"But not XP, which is even slower than 2k and full of unnecessary crap like pretty round buttons. Gag."
And 2K is not capable of running some ancient apps that WinXP / 98 can.
Yes, I know some biz's should update their software but these things don't happen all the time if it 'just works'.
"Hey, Einstein, guess what I just did? Got windows updates for the 98 box I'm on right now. Turns out you don't have to have MS push them to you in order to get them. Next."
Hmm, getting insulting are we? I seemed to have pushed you into a corner or you're an out-right ass in the first place. Choose -- or not -- I don't care.
For a OS with networking designed at the last minute, you probably have a false sense of security.
"If something had happened there would be some kind of performace loss, used disk space, that can and would be detected since I work routinely with massive amounts of massive files and very CPU intensive applications. But the main reason I know is cuz nobody's bothering to write worms for it anymore. Why bother, when writing worms for xp is so EASY (thanks again MS)? Can you even tell me the last virus or worm that targeted 98 was released?"
Same could be said for XP, except with XP, I can actually track my processes.
Win98 can't -- not even 'top' for Win98 can do it accurately.
It's sooo easy huh? Prove it. I want to see you have some form of proof. I dont' expect you to write a virus, but I do expect you to point out holes and not some web based crap. I want to see yo udo this by hand, becuase since the virus writter apparantly do it before the bugs are patched (that's what you are trying to say, as far as I can tell). or should I just call bullshit now?
" UNINSTALL INTERNET EXPLODER COMPLETELY!"
Oh, really?
haha.
crackbaby.com (down now) released an article on how to do it. I'll go find it again and prove you wrong (Assuming I actually remember to come back... if you post back, I'll prolly see a message). I know understand you are the average slashdotter who only knows what slashdot says. Got it, thanks!
"an idiot is somebody who assumes that everybody else's requirements for a system are the same as his own."
I couldn't have said it better, however you seem to be in the average slashdot crowd... so I dub thee idiot.
This was fun. Another? I do enjoy a good debate.
I'm going to have to disagree, I believe XP is signifigantly better.
.NET software in Win98 is.
/angered at the idiots.
It seems faster for me, but not only that it's more secure.
Here, check this out:
In business's they have these things called "Domain Controllers".
Windows 2K/XP has NTFS.
Win95/98 has FAT.
I can restrict my share so only my boss and the department can read/write the files but everyone else can only read. Do this in 98.
Here's another thing:
Goto BestBuy and buy some pen drive. Plug it in each OS.
Well, shiat, your 98 doesn't have drivers. Gotta use company time downloading those. Even then, sometimes the point of a pen drive is for a machine with no access, so now you have to burn it to a CD. But what if you upgrade your pen drive to a bigger size? Well drap, gotta repeat this process.
Well, another thing:
SUS (Software Update Services).
Push updates out to Win9x boxen.
Now try with XP.
Some say 98 is out longer and is 99.9% secure. This isn't true. You haven't seen anything nasty becuase Microsoft doesn't push updates out anymore. You're screwed if something happens. Who's to say something hasn't happened and you don't know about it?
I'm curious to know how developing
I'm curious to know what real-time software exists for it (For example, we use InTime for 2K/XP).
A great many things can be done with XP/2K that can't for 98.
Are you using Linux Kernel 1.5? No. Why do you upgrade? Does your computer run?
Same thing...
I hope I'm reading this right.
I'm reading this as "Would you rather software that's free (GPL F/OSS) or software that does a better job?"
Personally, whichever gets the job done the cheapest and most painless for me.
I use Gento and Windows XP Professional.
Gentoo runs my web server, IRC server, teamspeak server, mail, imap, etc.
Windows runs the software I'm typing this in (Firefox), Steam (and all it's little pieces like Counter-Strike), and all those goodies. To be honest, I really probably would be using Linux hardcore if it wasn't for the difficulty in the wireless area.
Software is just like real world property.
You want to get a nice piece of toilet paper (you won't want sand paper, do you?) but you aren't going to spend $100 / roll are you?
A great example is OpenOffice vs Microsoft Office 2003.
I *love* MSO03 (it's p-u-rty and Outlook has nice spam filtering) and it can do pivot tables too. I don't see how OO can do that. So, do I need pivot tables in my personal life? What about buisness life?
Luckily for me, it's neither. But I'm sure there is someone that might.
If I could afford to purchase Office 2003 for my computer at home, I would. Unforuntly, that's buying the $100/roll of toilet paper that I can't afford -- and don't have to thanks to OpenOffice. Eventually this will do one of two things.
Bring the prive of MSO03 down to a more reasonable price (or to what I percieve to be reasonable) or kill it. I hope it doesn't kill it -- because I believe OO needs it's own competition too.
Everyone has there preference to where the line is. This is why humanity has survived sooo long and why the debate for Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac vs. *BSD has gone on for so long.
So, my answer to the question:
Whichever one that doesn't make me spend too long trying it figure a thing I believe to be trivial out.
Obviously I'm willing to go through enough hassle to get my server running Linux but not my desktop.
My server is one hobby. My desktop is my tool to do other things that help this hobby. That's how I like to spend my time and where my freedoms value me.
Disney's Alladin... it was the genie who said that. :)
Unfortunelty my employer isn't all that worried about seurity. If someone is trying to hack our robots, it's not going to be all that difficult to break things and the real benefit is nill. We plan on trying to limit some stuff, but I lack faith in my employers paranoia level and intelligence in security. It wouldn't surpise me if he isn't even following good secure programming... but he is great for learning things, his coding is shit when it comes to the real deal (I have yet to hear someone say his code is clean.... EVER). So, back on to the topic of security: I think we will dumb down Windows so they can't do much (such as access the start menu, no right-click / context menu on the desktop, etc) and I think we will through a hardware firewall (cheaper) infront of our mini-network, only allowing VPN and remote connecting in/out. Our robot code can only be compiled with a certain dongle / key, or so I'm told that will be the end result. Thusly your tow main fears (A) stupid/ignorant users and (b) network attacks are halted to a grind by blocking all but those ports. Obviously thier are some security issues with VPN (PPTP I think) and remote connection, and one would be foolish to believe they are completly secure, but this should get rid of a stupid IT Tech who thinks they can dork with the system... the IT Tech is what we fear more, they are *always* the ones braking the system more often than the users. Since we are going to Windows (From QNX) we have an even higher fear.
I believe the way Tenasys works is that they use a driver that hogs *all* the process, and lets Windows run when it has some spare CPU to give back to Windows. This effectivly allows you (a) to hurt yourself through stupid programming (as any RT programmer will tell you..) and (b) to aquire real time programming without the chance of thinking sucking. This is becuase Windows can't really be trusted as a "low priority" and the other proeccess set to "real time priority" becuase Windows sets itself to be higher. So I think in this instance, they are safe from the patent. How ironic, the reason Windows sucks (in the RT field) is the reason Tenasys is saved. Humor anyone? :-)
Could you give some quantifiable reasons why you think Tenasys is in violation of the RT Linux patent?
I forgot to add, XP Embedded also allows you to cut stuff out. So the Linux being modular doesn't help very much in this case... (Aside from the monetary value)
My employer had to choose Windows over Linux becuase Linux lacked true realtime support. Windows doesn't either, however their is third party software and developing projects is (supposedly) easier with Windows. Our sales dudes also wanted to be able to say "We use Windows!"... We looked at Linux but Linux was just too slow. We are currently moving away from QNX 4.25 (yeah, I know... really old... we are even on the f patch... I finally convinced them to goto g for the server, so I could do backups.. otherwise cp would crash after 64k of files...). We currently build custom industrial robots, so we *have* to have real time or else things could suck. Although I think Linux is a while from where Tenasys InTime (our current third party software) level, it's nice to know people are still working on it... so Linux may become a chance in 8 or so years... when we want to move to another platform. I wonder if the medical field would be intersted in RT Linux... I don't know if they require some special stuff because of legallity or something though...
Actually I use most common OS's. Windows XP, Win2K, Windows 2003, Gentoo, LFS, and Slackware (and some other not so common OS's: SGL [before it died] and QNX) I refuse to go Redhat/Fedora. I choose whatever *gets the job done* with the least amount of pain. When I say pain, I refer to finanacial and time. If I'm willing to spend $XXX on Windows XP, then thats my perogative. If I'd rather take the learning curve for distro X, same thing.
And as for my analoy, you interpreted it wrong. I probably could have worded it better though. Do you build your own cars? -- I'm too tired to continue this side of the argument. *sigh*
I'm not arguing what I want, I'm arguing what most of the population is like. Just becuase I like to play devil's advocate doesn't mean I agree with it. Lets face reality here, people like the live the laziest lives they can. *Everyone* is like that. If they know they can get away without doing something and it won't cost them anything, they will do it, otherwise they are fools for wasting the energy (becuase, as I stated -- it didn't cost them anything in terms of money, time, etc). Most people don't know any better.
Referring to the USSR is generally referring to communism becuase you don't want a choice, or at least that is how I intrepeted it.
I, personally, would rather a real democracy. It would get people invovled and learn what the real world is like, sadly I live in Amera where it is a republic -- where you must choose the lesser of two (or more) evils. The cost, is it takes a while for change to occur, becuase everyone is invovled you can um-ptine million opinions.
Forgive the grammatical and spelling errors, meds are starting to kick in -- as well as my normal lack of forte in grammer.
*sigh* Typos. I know. :-( :-(
*sigh* Off topic. I know.
Not everyone likes to know everything about everything. Just becuase we are into computer doesn't mean everyone has to be. When you car breaks down, do you fix everything by yourself becuase you have the "freedom" to choose what parts you want or do you just want it fixed so it will "just run"? hm, seems like you would do fine in the USSR. What about your house? Pipes in your house? Electrical work? Not everyone knows everything, we all like to focus on our *HOBBIES* and let everything else "just work." Thank you for trolling and thinking we all must be like you or else we are communist, have a nice day!
I agree and disagree with your opinoin. Just becuase someone complains about something, doesn't mean they should fix it or shut up. If that were the case, we would all be working on *tons* of things and it would most certainly overwelm us. I like open source stuff allot, but I still can't get my business to move ove becuase they aren't good enough. Microsoft is still better, or at least OO and other misc OS programs just aren't compatible enough yet. We use allot of the weird stuff, but I don't have the knowledge to even contribute into anything usefull. I'm willing to offer my opinion all day long and expertise in my field of choice (which is not *gasp* hardcore programming), sadly the OS community doesn't really need my advise so I'm not much use currently. Stop preaching, like the linux zealot that sits across from me. We all know where everyone stands. Everyone OS has it's advantage. Yes, even Windows has an advantage or two. Where am I going with this? I don't remember anymore *sigh* Lost track of thought.
Anyways, you can call Microsofts software crap, but in reality it's good enough to dominate most of the world, and apprently better than OO for more places. I, personally, use whatever will get the job done the most effecient way. I'm willing to *pay* to make that happen. Microsoft produces products that will get my job done. Other linux distro's help as well. The grass is always greener...
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I'll admit, even I have been hit three times becuase I used IE, however for the most part it's more of a social problem than anything. It's the clicking through EULA's without caring. For example, we have someone in recieving who liked Gator becuase it stored her information and put it on a web-page when appropriate, however had she read (and understood) the EULA she would have not installed it. We cant use Firefox/Mozilla becuase of misc problems, so they are stuck with IE (for now). I think business's should offer a basic teaching class for internet etiquette and basic knowledge. I say busienss's becuase it would benefit them more (or at least some of the smaller ones who don't have the easily enforced corporate policies) to spend a few hours teaching their employee's. Yes, I know they should be fired or whatever punishment deemed fitting, but in a small/medium company you can't just up and do that for something as small as being ignorant on computers, becuase most of the people you hire aren't the brightest in computers but they are excellent at there job.
I just turned 21, and my insurance got cut in half. I was paying $280 a month, $70 MORE than my truck note! Every year it would go up, and I've never been in a work. From what I have learned, if the Insurance companies make $3mill one year, and $2mill the next, they call is a $1mill loss. From what I've gathered thus far, insurance isn't regulated and needs to be, how to do it... I don't know. I live in Texas, and it appears more and more people are driving without insurance becuase they can't afford it. Hell, I'm tempted myself to drop it. I'm almost willing to take the chance and get fined (which is _still_ less) for driving without insurance. Sadly, because I have a loan I can not cut insurance, I must have full coverage. If I go to other insurance companies, I've heard of horrors of them not paying or taking forever or some crap. It's a trap, a trap I say! :-)
My point is, we are all in the same field, except only the docters have the denero to fight it.
Ok, how many people on /. declare US as inferior?
Let's face it, we ALL have our faults. Man kind, nation, social, educational, everyone.
Everytime I read on /. someone makes a comment about another country, this is starting to sound like children bickering. How about we ignore those post for a change, don't feed the fire?
What we ought (is that even a word?) to be doing is asking what went wrong and given possibilities until we are able to narrow down what happened.
Hmm, seems like that's already been done (for the most part).
OK, what's next? We learn from that mistake. All space programs will learn from this.
I could go on, but that would take this further off topic.
It's working for me, I stopped sharing and downloading. However, I also haven't bought a CD from them in uhh.... uhh.... can't remember. I used to have a MASSIVE collection of cd's. I'm only 20 years old and already stopped buying from them... they lost any potential from me. A friend of mine told me of some place about an hour drive away with about the same msuic, except much cheaper and don't deal with the recording industry. The recording industry shot themselves in the foot, much like the oil industry is doing with the price of gas (by raising prices and making people think "I wish there was some other way...").
I'd love to get paid hourly for that one ;-)
but seriously, what would the salary be for a job like that?
What kind of effects would it have on you?
IIRC, going to space and back seem to have strange effects on you, mostly due to gravity.
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/livinginspace/Foa le-Record.html [nasa.gov] -- notice it was 12.09.03, so it is recent. "230 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes and 37 seconds in space."
I wonder if a couple years would be a differece.