Actually, that would give some of us that have to review code something interesting to look at.
Those that think code is self-commenting, forget that there are people like me, who aren't great programmers, who have to either fix your bugs, make simple modifications, or add really simple things. When there aren't comments, it is hard to figure out what parts of what do which.
I vote. I don't remember any voting topics that were yay or nay on Diebold Windows machines. Hell, I'd prolly be one of those freaky hippies protesting.
I wonder if MythTV will run, or how their software stacks-up against MythTV. I really enjoyed having a Myth in the living room, but it is pretty annoying to make a PC into a set-top, with cables, adaptors, and stuff. Machines built for the set-top are (obviously) more specialized, but generally lack major features (like keyboards, mice, MAME, etc).
Maybe I should have picked up a PVR-250 yesterday during the non-sale.
Me, for one. It's my belief that if they are surveiling me (Hi, guys!), that I will produce more information than they can possibly process with a team of 100 dedicated people. Yes, that's right. I sign-up for mailing lists, brochures, make phone calls, Internet posts, buy everything with a credit card whenever possible, and generate superfluous data whenever possible.
I don't want to be watched over, but if they are watching, they're gonna get an eye-and-a-half full! Why not put on a show? Masturbate at your computer, I do!
No, I am *very tired* of eating ramen noodles. This does not, however, prevent me from taking a few risks -- but people like us generally don't have disposable income to start businesses, hire coders, salespeople, etc.
So, look at the number of people already playing with it, plus that of leaked copies. There's part of your QA right there. Make a pre-release copy, or something, make it legit, and you fill in the rest. They'd prolly have to hire some people to handle the input from users, tho.
Also, x86 OSX is already writen. It's almost done. I don't think they'd have to hire many more people, unless the demand far exceeds the supply, which is generally the case with Apple products, isn't it?
It's not like Apple would have to develop a completely new product -- it's already there, what's in question is what they intend to do with it. I wanna install OSX on my green box here, even if half my hardware isn't supported.
Take a look at CUPS, or Ghostscript. I have been using that for RIPing the images I print at home, on my HP 8k, Epson 1520, and Encad Novajet II. Works like a charm. No idea how professional-quality capable it is, but I've seen far worse from box RIPs in the past.
THis would be a good buy, if I could search for all of the souls, and buy as many of them at one time as possible. I'd like to see a similar buying and selling ability for various types of commodities on Google Base, or I guess that would be Google Soul Stock Market.
Hay, man, I'm an Apple ][ kid, and I prefer to work in software-development companies.
Apple doesn't have a sum total of 8 customers, they have many more than that. Imagine if they can take a larger percentage of the operating system market, by offering their OS up for more platforms, and made it affordable, maybe at a little more of a cost than the competition. I imagine that by doing this, they may amplify their sales of OSX in large quantities.
So, the various pieces of Apple have several revenue streams (iPod, Mac, OSX, etc), which carry them through the tough times of any one of those product lines, and support developers. Rock-on. Adding more of these revenue streams, without having to create an entire new teams, or manufacturing, etc -- sounds like a real hit to me. Sounds like this scenario will play out, prolly from sheer demand from the 98% of computer users not using Apple. (or whatever percentage it really is, it is very high).
I dunno. Look what Apple did with the Mac Mini -- what kinda profit margin do you think they make on those?
Also, without buying a Macintosh, what kind of user experience do I have with OSX? None, except for screenshots, and a quick peek while glancing over someone's shoulder.
I think a signifigantly large number of computer users would swarm to OSX if it were available for non-Apple computers. Besides, I'm not so impressed with the actual hardware, many things (for all platforms) have specs, but they all may not do what you want to use it for out of the box.
My taste for Macs has run afoul, a combination between stupid choices in design of their older Macs, enforced incompatibility, and a complete lack of sensemaking with some of the various operating systems. If their hardware was truly better, unneededly expensive, and was compatible with other systems, I might switch. Otherwise, Red Hat's Fedora seems to work okay for me for now.
How many of those NeXT machines were sold, tho? How many copies of OSX were sold? How many copies of OSX would sell if they just opened it up?
Look at what Microsoft did to DOS in the early days, I would think that Apple can beat Microsoft at their own game at any time, by simply going after them. I can't imagine Apple makes much of a margin on their hardware systems, they keep redesigning each one every time, like it's a completely different computer.
You'd think they'd do an iPhone or iCell or a real, useful PDA. What's holding them back? (What's holding other manufacturers back from creating useful PDAs and cell phones? Pisses me off...)
Good point, but here's the thing: They ain't gettin' my thousands of dollars for just a laptop. Don't get me wrong, I do want a 15" TiBook, but I'm not going to shell out for that. Mac Mini? Perhaps, but maybe even a bit too low-end for me. I'd rather put OSX on this machine I have here under my desk already.
If they don't want to do that, they'll not get my cash, and I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people that agree with me.
Of course, I do have a Mac IIci that I've been using -- just to extract my old songs from Opcode's Studio Vision. Once that's done, tho...
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I think whether it's the toxic chemicals (cigarettes, raw sewage, excessive perfume) that are in question, above and beyond our thread here. Since smells are a sense, I was taking that a step further and describing another annoying assault on a sense that certain people inflict on others.
A similar discussion would describe asshole dirtbag bikers throttling their engines at the light in front of my doorway, which sets off the car alarms on the street. When the light changes, these penis erectile disfunctionaries take off in a cloud of filthy noisy smoke. This kind of thing I think is twice as bad as cigarettes. Three times as bad if you actually look at some of these people (assaults on smell, hearing, and sight!).
I think that if Apple allowed third parties to make Apple clones, or Apple-Approved machines to run the new OSX on, this could potentially be good for Apple. I'd rather spend $200 on OSX for my workstation, than $200 for Windows anything -- especially if it worked properly.
This might be useful if Apple embraces the FOSS community, and lets them fill in the gaps in device drivers, etc. Keeping things closed isn't good for anyone except the company that is doing the closing, and there are many many anecdotes of where that kind of practice isn't even good for them.
Nobody likes to do an IP renumbering, but why forego progress to preserve the status quo? We already use IPv6 for internal stuff, but since there's little adoption, it isn't more than a novelty. I hope that with the explosion of embedded systems, we'll start to see more folks interested in adopting IPv6.
Yeah, no shit. Just wish IBM had a QA department, or wouldn't advertise these things as suitable replacements for 1U rack jobs. People succumb to the marketing information -- and on specs alone, they look like good units. Then you use a bank of 'em, and find that the KVM works when it wants to, there are no serial ports period, the hardware is wacky enough to confuse even the most standard of distributions (pick one). Then you find out that half the features don't work. They put so much effort, hardware, and firmware at all kinds of superfluous overhead, and miss entirely the point of having servers in the first place -- if it doesn't work, it's of no use to us. Argh!
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About containing known toxins and carcinogens, how does your opinion relate to standard tap water? Perchlorate, lead, mercury, arsenic, and a whole periodic table of elements, compounds, and examples of industrial chemistry escipades is in our friggin water and food supply.
Why not ban known toxins and carcinogens in the water?
For that matter, how 'bout obese people eating in public? I can control my addiction in view of the public, if those people can. Without giant blobs of fleshiness stuffing their faces two-fisted, public places would be nicer to look at and enjoy. Without smoking, they smell better too.
Agreed. If there were an iPhone, I'd be in line to pick it up. I am disgusted with the view of phone manufacturers, who only look at the features that people want, with dollar signs in their eyes. Rather than build a useful phone, with sense-making features, they only include the features that users will pay for.
Case in point, most phones (and PDAs) have a tasklist. NONE of them will let you nest tasks. Categories != task nesting. There are many other examples that I can't think of right now.
I am so amazed that my years-old Nokia 3650 has more features than most phones out there -- bluetooth which actually functions, MMC card slot, infrared, Java support...
rust within seconds of purchase, and become instantly unusable, which is the same thing that happened to my 3360, and other multi-pin phones. This, plus the other annoying features.
I am a smoker, and I don't have allergies. One thing that makes my eyes smart though, is some perfumes, in certain concentrations, on certain people. Are you affected by perfume as well as cigarette smoke?
I avoid the cleaning fluid aisle when I go grocery shopping. I mean, I DO clean my clothes and stuff, I just use a non-perfumated cleaning agent. The whole aisle usually stinks, though, and is half as bad as I understand tear-gas to be.
=_) No, we have a few hundred blades! The idea is to use Xen, and I found it convenient that FC4 comes with Xen.
Part of our problem is that lots of things that run on "normal" computers do not work on IBM blades -- FreeBSD was a total bitch and a half just to get working -- nonstandard USB, weird KVM management, and other bizarre oddities.
Turns out that the Xen-unstable is more stable than the release of Xen -- at least on these hosts.
Great for Solaris, but how 'bout FC4 on HS20 blades? I have been able to get it to work with some boot-up messages, but not reliably. I guess there aren't many people that use "unsupported" operating systems on these things. Bladecenters are a really good idea, but horribly poor implementation. IBM must not have a QA department.
I had a different name a while ago. As I grew (online), I shed my old identity, and chose a new one -- one that normal people can't spell, and that nobody else would want. I do prefer to use my username everywhere, rather than having multiple personas. Rock-on, Taco.
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Actually, that would give some of us that have to review code something interesting to look at. Those that think code is self-commenting, forget that there are people like me, who aren't great programmers, who have to either fix your bugs, make simple modifications, or add really simple things. When there aren't comments, it is hard to figure out what parts of what do which.
I vote. I don't remember any voting topics that were yay or nay on Diebold Windows machines. Hell, I'd prolly be one of those freaky hippies protesting.
I wonder if MythTV will run, or how their software stacks-up against MythTV. I really enjoyed having a Myth in the living room, but it is pretty annoying to make a PC into a set-top, with cables, adaptors, and stuff. Machines built for the set-top are (obviously) more specialized, but generally lack major features (like keyboards, mice, MAME, etc). Maybe I should have picked up a PVR-250 yesterday during the non-sale.
Me, for one. It's my belief that if they are surveiling me (Hi, guys!), that I will produce more information than they can possibly process with a team of 100 dedicated people. Yes, that's right. I sign-up for mailing lists, brochures, make phone calls, Internet posts, buy everything with a credit card whenever possible, and generate superfluous data whenever possible. I don't want to be watched over, but if they are watching, they're gonna get an eye-and-a-half full! Why not put on a show? Masturbate at your computer, I do!
No, I am *very tired* of eating ramen noodles. This does not, however, prevent me from taking a few risks -- but people like us generally don't have disposable income to start businesses, hire coders, salespeople, etc.
So, look at the number of people already playing with it, plus that of leaked copies. There's part of your QA right there. Make a pre-release copy, or something, make it legit, and you fill in the rest. They'd prolly have to hire some people to handle the input from users, tho. Also, x86 OSX is already writen. It's almost done. I don't think they'd have to hire many more people, unless the demand far exceeds the supply, which is generally the case with Apple products, isn't it? It's not like Apple would have to develop a completely new product -- it's already there, what's in question is what they intend to do with it. I wanna install OSX on my green box here, even if half my hardware isn't supported.
Take a look at CUPS, or Ghostscript. I have been using that for RIPing the images I print at home, on my HP 8k, Epson 1520, and Encad Novajet II. Works like a charm. No idea how professional-quality capable it is, but I've seen far worse from box RIPs in the past.
THis would be a good buy, if I could search for all of the souls, and buy as many of them at one time as possible. I'd like to see a similar buying and selling ability for various types of commodities on Google Base, or I guess that would be Google Soul Stock Market.
Hay, man, I'm an Apple ][ kid, and I prefer to work in software-development companies. Apple doesn't have a sum total of 8 customers, they have many more than that. Imagine if they can take a larger percentage of the operating system market, by offering their OS up for more platforms, and made it affordable, maybe at a little more of a cost than the competition. I imagine that by doing this, they may amplify their sales of OSX in large quantities. So, the various pieces of Apple have several revenue streams (iPod, Mac, OSX, etc), which carry them through the tough times of any one of those product lines, and support developers. Rock-on. Adding more of these revenue streams, without having to create an entire new teams, or manufacturing, etc -- sounds like a real hit to me. Sounds like this scenario will play out, prolly from sheer demand from the 98% of computer users not using Apple. (or whatever percentage it really is, it is very high).
I dunno. Look what Apple did with the Mac Mini -- what kinda profit margin do you think they make on those? Also, without buying a Macintosh, what kind of user experience do I have with OSX? None, except for screenshots, and a quick peek while glancing over someone's shoulder. I think a signifigantly large number of computer users would swarm to OSX if it were available for non-Apple computers. Besides, I'm not so impressed with the actual hardware, many things (for all platforms) have specs, but they all may not do what you want to use it for out of the box. My taste for Macs has run afoul, a combination between stupid choices in design of their older Macs, enforced incompatibility, and a complete lack of sensemaking with some of the various operating systems. If their hardware was truly better, unneededly expensive, and was compatible with other systems, I might switch. Otherwise, Red Hat's Fedora seems to work okay for me for now.
How many of those NeXT machines were sold, tho? How many copies of OSX were sold? How many copies of OSX would sell if they just opened it up?
Look at what Microsoft did to DOS in the early days, I would think that Apple can beat Microsoft at their own game at any time, by simply going after them. I can't imagine Apple makes much of a margin on their hardware systems, they keep redesigning each one every time, like it's a completely different computer.
You'd think they'd do an iPhone or iCell or a real, useful PDA. What's holding them back? (What's holding other manufacturers back from creating useful PDAs and cell phones? Pisses me off...)
Good point, but here's the thing: They ain't gettin' my thousands of dollars for just a laptop. Don't get me wrong, I do want a 15" TiBook, but I'm not going to shell out for that. Mac Mini? Perhaps, but maybe even a bit too low-end for me. I'd rather put OSX on this machine I have here under my desk already.
If they don't want to do that, they'll not get my cash, and I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands of people that agree with me.
Of course, I do have a Mac IIci that I've been using -- just to extract my old songs from Opcode's Studio Vision. Once that's done, tho...
I think whether it's the toxic chemicals (cigarettes, raw sewage, excessive perfume) that are in question, above and beyond our thread here. Since smells are a sense, I was taking that a step further and describing another annoying assault on a sense that certain people inflict on others.
A similar discussion would describe asshole dirtbag bikers throttling their engines at the light in front of my doorway, which sets off the car alarms on the street. When the light changes, these penis erectile disfunctionaries take off in a cloud of filthy noisy smoke. This kind of thing I think is twice as bad as cigarettes. Three times as bad if you actually look at some of these people (assaults on smell, hearing, and sight!).
I think that if Apple allowed third parties to make Apple clones, or Apple-Approved machines to run the new OSX on, this could potentially be good for Apple. I'd rather spend $200 on OSX for my workstation, than $200 for Windows anything -- especially if it worked properly.
This might be useful if Apple embraces the FOSS community, and lets them fill in the gaps in device drivers, etc. Keeping things closed isn't good for anyone except the company that is doing the closing, and there are many many anecdotes of where that kind of practice isn't even good for them.
I for one welcome our new IPv6 overlords!
Nobody likes to do an IP renumbering, but why forego progress to preserve the status quo? We already use IPv6 for internal stuff, but since there's little adoption, it isn't more than a novelty. I hope that with the explosion of embedded systems, we'll start to see more folks interested in adopting IPv6.
Yeah, no shit. Just wish IBM had a QA department, or wouldn't advertise these things as suitable replacements for 1U rack jobs. People succumb to the marketing information -- and on specs alone, they look like good units. Then you use a bank of 'em, and find that the KVM works when it wants to, there are no serial ports period, the hardware is wacky enough to confuse even the most standard of distributions (pick one). Then you find out that half the features don't work. They put so much effort, hardware, and firmware at all kinds of superfluous overhead, and miss entirely the point of having servers in the first place -- if it doesn't work, it's of no use to us. Argh!
About containing known toxins and carcinogens, how does your opinion relate to standard tap water? Perchlorate, lead, mercury, arsenic, and a whole periodic table of elements, compounds, and examples of industrial chemistry escipades is in our friggin water and food supply.
Why not ban known toxins and carcinogens in the water?
For that matter, how 'bout obese people eating in public? I can control my addiction in view of the public, if those people can. Without giant blobs of fleshiness stuffing their faces two-fisted, public places would be nicer to look at and enjoy. Without smoking, they smell better too.
Agreed. If there were an iPhone, I'd be in line to pick it up. I am disgusted with the view of phone manufacturers, who only look at the features that people want, with dollar signs in their eyes. Rather than build a useful phone, with sense-making features, they only include the features that users will pay for.
Case in point, most phones (and PDAs) have a tasklist. NONE of them will let you nest tasks. Categories != task nesting. There are many other examples that I can't think of right now.
I am so amazed that my years-old Nokia 3650 has more features than most phones out there -- bluetooth which actually functions, MMC card slot, infrared, Java support...
rust within seconds of purchase, and become instantly unusable, which is the same thing that happened to my 3360, and other multi-pin phones. This, plus the other annoying features.
When will we have functional sensemaking phones?
I am a smoker, and I don't have allergies. One thing that makes my eyes smart though, is some perfumes, in certain concentrations, on certain people. Are you affected by perfume as well as cigarette smoke?
I avoid the cleaning fluid aisle when I go grocery shopping. I mean, I DO clean my clothes and stuff, I just use a non-perfumated cleaning agent. The whole aisle usually stinks, though, and is half as bad as I understand tear-gas to be.
Okay, okay, I'll pack the bole *again*...
=_) No, we have a few hundred blades! The idea is to use Xen, and I found it convenient that FC4 comes with Xen. Part of our problem is that lots of things that run on "normal" computers do not work on IBM blades -- FreeBSD was a total bitch and a half just to get working -- nonstandard USB, weird KVM management, and other bizarre oddities. Turns out that the Xen-unstable is more stable than the release of Xen -- at least on these hosts.
Great for Solaris, but how 'bout FC4 on HS20 blades? I have been able to get it to work with some boot-up messages, but not reliably. I guess there aren't many people that use "unsupported" operating systems on these things. Bladecenters are a really good idea, but horribly poor implementation. IBM must not have a QA department.
I had a different name a while ago. As I grew (online), I shed my old identity, and chose a new one -- one that normal people can't spell, and that nobody else would want. I do prefer to use my username everywhere, rather than having multiple personas. Rock-on, Taco.
Plus, they'd get a steady stream of volunteers -- like me!
Hehehehehe! You could autoclave the sex room if there's enough power onboard! Easy cleaning!
Sex in zero-G sounds like fun -- just think of how perfectly shaped boobies would be in zero-Gs!