Yeah but from the sound of it, and I own up to not having direct experience so I am talking out my arse strictly speaking, DDR has a long way to go to catch up with rambus when it comes to heat generation; assuming its true that rambus will melt the insulation off of cables.
Would someone like to try it and tell us what happens?:)
1/ RDRAM was obsolete before it even hit the shelves (unacceptably high latency for most applications and I believe there were patent or licensing problems?)
2/ the P4 only really outperforms Athlons, for example, when given RDRAM.
Put 1 and 2 together and we have a chip that only performs well in conjunction with a type of ram thats largely unavailable...
3/ RDRAM has been described as absurdly hot; I'm told it will melt the insulation off of cables unfortunate enough to cross its path.
Given all that, statements about the P4's performance over other chips should be given some context with respect to memory type.
Thing that bugs me about this is that the pace of hardware technology obsolescence is such that if it takes more than 2 months to develop a new OS, you can't go out and buy new (as opposed to second hand) hardware to run it on... because all the new hardware thats available is incompatible with what you were developing for.
I reckon PC hardware should follow the model of Soviet military technology, which is to say; Refine existing technologies, don't introduce new, untested, technologies every freakin month!!!
But wouldn't the p4 only be able to take advantage of that 3x memory bandwidth if you gave it the rambus it craves? (and put some fans on the memory too)
Good point. I'm reminded of what was going down before the Soviets developed their own nukes; Bertrand Russell (who most people know as a CND activist) was advocating a first strike nuclear attack against the Soviets to stop them developing the nuke. It was only after they got the nuke that Russell changed sides on that issue.
Oh but wait, doesn't the American government have to attack targets overseas so that Americans can walk their streets without fear of someone sniping at them? Oh wait, that sniper is most likely to be a fellow American using their constitutionally protected right to be a gun nut.
Or wait, how about Americans being able to enter federal buildings without fear of them being blown up? Surely that requires attacks on overseas targets? Oh wait that bomber is likely to be a fellow american too...
Is it my imagination or is there a pattern here?
Heres some stats I'd like to see;
A) Number of people confirmed dead from 9/11 attacks.
B) Number of people shot dead on the streets of America every year.
If AB shouldn't the B52s be carpet bombing trailer parks?
well yeah, but with autonomous fighting machines, super lasers, advanced pilotless stealth fighters and so forth the rest of the world had darn well better watch out, right?
I prophesie this; When the USA finally has autonomous fighting robots it'll all be over for the rest of the world. They may as well run up an American flag and swear the pledge of allegiance.
The only thing stopping the USA from kicking the arse of everyone that opposes them around the world, including the Chinese and the Europeans is that the USA can't replace combat losses of personel; the pre-9/11 CIA world factbook showed that of the total, gross, population of the USA less than 1% can be considered fit for military service.
Interestingly, not long after 9/11 the CIA changed the relevent statistics to "N/A" instead of giving the numbers.
that the average American would want the line between liberty and safety drawn right at the national borders of the USA.
Ie the rest of the world is unsafe and the USA has liberty.
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You have more faith in human intelligence than I do.
Look at the impending ecological disasters; people *only* change their behavior when things get so bad that either they change or they sink into cognitive dissonance and start hallucinating.
At that point, its usually past the point of no return.
I'd still like to know what the projection would be, assuming that people *don't* modify their behavior.
I'm sort of gesticulating at the 'we should research stopping AIDS before researching stopping asteroid impacts' thread; which is genuinely the greater threat?
Which of them, if left unchecked, will likely exterminate us sooner?
by which I mean extraterrestrial, in their RIGHT FLAMING MIND would let us pull something like that off.
Next thing we'd be among the stars destroying ecosystems left right and center.
I mean, look how we treat this one, and its the only frikking one we've got!
In fact if I were an alien, which to the best of my knowledge I'm not, I'd put a flaming FENCE up!
I'd like to know how long AIDS will take
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to completely exterminate the human population;
(given its current trend)
and (assuming
((the absence of a 'miracle cure')
and
(that the number of humans with natural immunity would put us at the very pinnacle of the endangered species list at the very end)))
Might it be possible to calculate roughly how long we have as a species?
And I also don't want any lisp jokes I was just trying to be clear and its not syntactically correct anyway.
When did Linux become a 'clone'?
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"Why are we competing with MS on MS's own ground? When did Linux shift from being an alternative to being a clone?"
I'd say that happened when FVWM got a 'theme' that made it look almost exactly like windows 95.
This caused some real confusion on dual boot systems!;)
over your shoulder when you borrow a book and make a note of it and there'd be nothing you could do about it, no. Libraries are public places, whats the reasonable expectation of privacy at the library checkout counter?
is blocking anyone who requests NIMDA/CodeRed related URLs.
I currently use a scheme where I created the appropriate directories on my web document tree (/scripts for example) and then set up 'deny to all' rules for them.
This way, the apache server doesn't even bother with a filesystem seek to tell that the file isn't there it just denies it.
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was that an exclusive or inclusive 'or'?
Thanks for the info!
Looks like things have been improving.
Yeah but from the sound of it, and I own up to not having direct experience so I am talking out my arse strictly speaking, DDR has a long way to go to catch up with rambus when it comes to heat generation; assuming its true that rambus will melt the insulation off of cables.
:)
Would someone like to try it and tell us what happens?
The point I was groping for was mainly that;
1/ RDRAM was obsolete before it even hit the shelves (unacceptably high latency for most applications and I believe there were patent or licensing problems?)
2/ the P4 only really outperforms Athlons, for example, when given RDRAM.
Put 1 and 2 together and we have a chip that only performs well in conjunction with a type of ram thats largely unavailable...
3/ RDRAM has been described as absurdly hot; I'm told it will melt the insulation off of cables unfortunate enough to cross its path.
Given all that, statements about the P4's performance over other chips should be given some context with respect to memory type.
presumably theres
GNU/Linux
and
GNU/Hurd
Thing that bugs me about this is that the pace of hardware technology obsolescence is such that if it takes more than 2 months to develop a new OS, you can't go out and buy new (as opposed to second hand) hardware to run it on... because all the new hardware thats available is incompatible with what you were developing for.
I reckon PC hardware should follow the model of Soviet military technology, which is to say;
Refine existing technologies, don't introduce new, untested, technologies every freakin month!!!
But wouldn't the p4 only be able to take advantage of that 3x memory bandwidth if you gave it the rambus it craves? (and put some fans on the memory too)
that this system could lead to some sort of audio snowcrash scenario!
Quick, block up your ears before its too late!
Wouldn't this be illegal in the US and UK as something that 'might be useful to terrorists'?
Good point.
I'm reminded of what was going down before the Soviets developed their own nukes;
Bertrand Russell (who most people know as a CND activist) was advocating a first strike nuclear attack against the Soviets to stop them developing the nuke.
It was only after they got the nuke that Russell changed sides on that issue.
I suspect that it was a troll.
that we are going to need Microsoft passport to make changes to DNS now?
Oh but wait, doesn't the American government have to attack targets overseas so that Americans can walk their streets without fear of someone sniping at them? Oh wait, that sniper is most likely to be a fellow American using their constitutionally protected right to be a gun nut.
Or wait, how about Americans being able to enter federal buildings without fear of them being blown up? Surely that requires attacks on overseas targets? Oh wait that bomber is likely to be a fellow american too...
Is it my imagination or is there a pattern here?
Heres some stats I'd like to see;
A) Number of people confirmed dead from 9/11 attacks.
B) Number of people shot dead on the streets of America every year.
If AB shouldn't the B52s be carpet bombing trailer parks?
well yeah, but with autonomous fighting machines, super lasers, advanced pilotless stealth fighters and so forth the rest of the world had darn well better watch out, right?
I prophesie this;
When the USA finally has autonomous fighting robots it'll all be over for the rest of the world. They may as well run up an American flag and swear the pledge of allegiance.
The only thing stopping the USA from kicking the arse of everyone that opposes them around the world, including the Chinese and the Europeans is that the USA can't replace combat losses of personel; the pre-9/11 CIA world factbook showed that of the total, gross, population of the USA less than 1% can be considered fit for military service.
Interestingly, not long after 9/11 the CIA changed the relevent statistics to "N/A" instead of giving the numbers.
the hardest way you can?
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that the average American would want the line between liberty and safety drawn right at the national borders of the USA.
Ie the rest of the world is unsafe and the USA has liberty.
You have more faith in human intelligence than I do.
Look at the impending ecological disasters; people *only* change their behavior when things get so bad that either they change or they sink into cognitive dissonance and start hallucinating.
At that point, its usually past the point of no return.
I'd still like to know what the projection would be, assuming that people *don't* modify their behavior.
I'm sort of gesticulating at the 'we should research stopping AIDS before researching stopping asteroid impacts' thread; which is genuinely the greater threat?
Which of them, if left unchecked, will likely exterminate us sooner?
by which I mean extraterrestrial,
in their RIGHT FLAMING MIND would
let us pull something like that off.
Next thing we'd be among the stars
destroying ecosystems left right and
center.
I mean, look how we treat this one,
and its the only frikking one we've got!
In fact if I were an alien, which to the best of my knowledge I'm not, I'd put a flaming FENCE up!
to completely exterminate the human population;
(given its current trend)
and
(assuming
((the absence of a 'miracle cure')
and
(that the number of humans with natural immunity would put us at the very pinnacle of the endangered species list at the very end)))
Might it be possible to calculate roughly how long we have as a species?
And I also don't want any lisp jokes I was just trying to be clear and its not syntactically correct anyway.
"Why are we competing with MS on MS's own ground? When did Linux shift from being an alternative to being a clone?"
;)
I'd say that happened when FVWM got a 'theme' that made it look almost exactly like windows 95.
This caused some real confusion on dual boot systems!
Shouldn't that be
"Laser shoots down. Artillery shell in flight!"
?
It ain't a theory.
Like Freuds 'Every dream is a neurotic symptom'
or Newtons 'Every action has an equal and opposite reaction'
over your shoulder when you borrow a book and make a note of it and there'd be nothing you could do about it, no. Libraries are public places, whats the reasonable expectation of privacy at the library checkout counter?
get into subpoenas envy!
"My subpoenas bigger than yours! nyah!"
is blocking anyone who requests NIMDA/CodeRed related URLs.
I currently use a scheme where I created the appropriate directories on my web document tree
(/scripts for example)
and then set up 'deny to all' rules for them.
This way, the apache server doesn't even bother with a filesystem seek to tell that the file isn't there it just denies it.
Dropping packets would be even better.
Surely this is a hoax?
If it isn't then the Redhat guys behind it have to be certifiably insane.